Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:உ.தனியரசு




 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  Delete both user and talk pages as confirmed promotional material. Deleting talk pages is unusual, but considering that the user has only made edits to these two pages, it seems safe to assume he or she is not here to build an encyclopedia. Glass  Cobra  17:48, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

User talk:உ.தனியரசு
User talk page is posted in a language other than English (possible Tamil) in a non-Latin alphabet. Guidelines call for all communications such as talk pages in the English Wikipedia to be in English. I posted a notice to that effect on the talk page, but the user removed it. It also contains a set of links to websites, which may be contrary to guidelines. I am also nominating the user page,User:உ.தனியரசு, which is also in a language other than English and which links to one or more outside websites, possibly for promotional purposes. Edison (talk) 21:15, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as the talk page is concerned, it's extremely rare for the talk pages of active users to be deleted, but if they are unwilling or unable to communicate in English, they could be blocked. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:38, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately Google Translate does not support Tamil. I've left them another message about using English, and will try to find somebody who understands Tamil to help translate. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep At least pending some communication from the editor. I would note, however, that foreign language posts on user pages are not uncommon on WP. Collect (talk) 14:57, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The only "communication from the editor" was to delete a notice that he should post only in English. Please read Talk page guidelines which says "Use English: No matter to whom you address a comment, it is preferred that you use English on English Wikipedia talk pages. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, try to also provide a translation of the comments. If you are requested to do so and cannot, you should either find a third party to translate or to contact a translator through the Wikipedia:Embassy." The posting of links to Gmails or other web pages is also a concern, both on the talk page and the user page. Wikipedia is not here to be a link farm or a free advertisement. Edison (talk) 02:43, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * And? Please note the number of usertalk pages which have parts in French, German, Italian, Russian, Spanish and so on.     And be sure to delete all usernames which appear Chinese.  Guidelines are not law. Collect (talk) 11:28, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with most of that, but if this user is unwilling or unable to communicate in English at all, and we can't even get a translation of what they are doing, then their presence on en.wiki is pointless. Communication on Wikipedia is supposed to be transparent, how can that be if there is a user that nobody can understand, and who does not seem to understand any of us? I'm also one of those users who will ask for a translation whenever I see non-English talk, for that very reason. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:02, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Collect, try to stick to the present MFD without making up wild expansions such as banning anything non-English in usernames. No one has objected to non-English usernames. Usernames containing non-Latin alphabets can be clicked on or cut and pasted to contact the user. But text in a talk page which is not in English is unacceptable without a translation. If the user is unable to translate their comments and unwilling to request that someone else translates them, the page should be deleted.You say "Guidelines are not law," but do you object to any enforcement of guidelines? Why have any if they can be ignored without any consequences? Edison (talk) 21:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * For the record, I have asked User:Umapathy, who is the only person I could find here who seems to be fluent in Tamil and English, for some help, but they have not edited since Christmas, so they may not get the message in time to help resolve this. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
 * See Category:User ta-N. Unfortunately, few users in that category are active, even fewer have edited in the last month, and even fewer still in the last week. Of the ~40 users I checked, User:Arunram is the only one who made a large number of edits in the past week (there were a few others who edited recently, but their contributions history reveals gaps of several weeks or months between edits). –Black Falcon (talk) 17:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, Category:User:ta-N, how did I not know to look there... Seriously, thanks for pointing that out, I went to Translators available, which only listed one active Tamil user. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:26, 26 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment I can translate if its required. The user seems to have written promotional content about a semi political organisation on his own talk page. My vote is delete.  Srikanth (Logic)  10:06, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per Logicwiki above, we're not a vehicle for promotion in any language.  JBsupreme  ( talk ) 21:46, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete both the userpage and the user talk page per Logicwiki's comment that this is promotional. Content such as Link spamming and promotion is unacceptable. WP:NOTWEBHOST applies. If there are qualms about deleting talk pages, I would recommend selective deletion of all the revisions prior to this one. Cunard (talk) 01:49, 31 January 2010 (UTC) Cunard (talk) 01:49, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Finally weighing in here: Delete the user page Blank the spam from the talk page. If they re-post the spam it's time for a block. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:09, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.