Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Cbrown1023/pschemp


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Deleted per author request. NawlinWiki 20:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Cbrown1023/pschemp
This page should be deleted. If Chris has an issue with my work he should take it to true dispute resolution, rather than publishing it. This page adds nothing to the wikipedia project and it does not contribute to resolving any dispute. Instead it is basically an attack sitting around. Note the reply by Mindspillage here making it clear that I didn't act contrary to any policy, thus making this page further harassment. Precedent for this deletion can be seen in a similar case here. pschemp | talk 03:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Cbrown1023 mentioned the situation to me at User talk:Kylu, and me, worrying about Essjay, encouraged him to put the notice up. I'm sorry, mea culpa. I do know however that both Pschemp and Mindspillage know Essjay very well, and if they say he asked Pschemp to remove the banner, then let her remove the banner. It's certainly not worth all this trouble. I'd ask that Cbrown1023 tag it for deletion himself voluntarily using db-owner, but if that fails I'd like to endorse a swift delete of the page as an archival of a matter that shouldn't have gone anywhere near that far. For the record, if Pschemp or Mindspillage do the same to my userpage and say that I asked them to, it'd be best to assume good faith and think that I did in fact ask them. ~Kylu ( u | t )  03:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This seems like a tempest-in-a-teapot to me: I don't know about big notice boxes, but Cbrown clearly acted with good-faith in tagging the page, as Essjay has been inactive at En. WP since August. It seems as if the situation could be resolved by adding Essjay to category "Inactive Wikipedians" -- he's listed as such at WP:LA already.  Cbrown might have done better at assuming good faith, but Pschemp's responses to him were not the model of civility either -- I think this page can be deleted by owner's consent once Essjay's page is appropriately, more subtly, tagged, and then everyone can let bygones be bygones. Xoloz 03:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * My responses were due to a request from Essjay to protect his privacy. Don't mistake lack of information for incivility. There is no obligation for me to explain the minutiae of Essjay's personal wishes when he doesn't want them revealed. Essjay doesn't want his page tagged, he feels the explanation left there by Robbie is sufficient, so why can't people just respect that? I explained more than once to Cbrown that users are allowed to remove things from talk pages, yet he persisted in harrassing me. After that, yes, my response wasn't perfectly polite. pschemp | talk 04:07, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * One might convey Essjay's desire for privacy without sarcasm. When dealing with people one does not know well in a dispute of any kind, sarcasm is almost always bad.  Good thing to remember! :)  Essjay's desire to avoid a big clunky box is understandable; the desire that his "away" status be made obvious, so that unknowing folks won't be confused, is also very understandable.  When one sees two useful positions presented on a relatively trivial question, one should seek calm compromise. Xoloz 04:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * That wasn't sarcasm. It wasn't intended as sarcasm. "because he asked me to" is in no way sarcastic, it is a simple statement of truth. That was *the* reason. What else is there to say? If you think that's sarcasm you are way too sensitive. pschemp | talk 13:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - as stated, the dispute (if it is such) should go to a dispute process, although I agree entirely with Xoloz's last comment. Yomangani talk 09:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - Was this dispute brought to ANI in the end? -- lucasbfr talk 15:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No I decided to just leave it. Cbrown1023 20:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - I'm adding db-owner to the page. I wrote when upset and didn't want to post it until I thought I was in a good mood and wouldn't bring up a stupid dispute. Cbrown1023 20:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.