Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Chubbennaitor/Graah


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Cenarium (Talk)  17:14, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Chubbennaitor/Graah
All pages on Wikipedia belong to the encyclopedia, including pages in userspace. Wikipedia isn't a project for socializing, nor is it a webhost for people to curse and "blow off steam." All pages are supposed to at least nominally contribute to the encyclopedia. This particular page doesn't seem to serve a useful purpose in that regard, and actually doesn't appear to be being used by User:Chubbennaitor at all.

The phrase "All policies do not apply here" and the implication that the user is policing it himself are also wrong and demonstrate a misconception. I'm not sure how this was inspired by AKMask, Animum or Light - but I suspect they didn't intend for it to look like this.

Before you decide blowing off steam might be useful after all, take a few minutes to actually read what some people have written. Avruch  T 21:34, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Nothing but nonsense. Useless. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 21:43, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unlike most, I have no particular problem with myspacers or people using Wikipedia as a social network providing they're doing something useful as well. This page is not "blowing off steam", though, but a mixture of patent nonsense and attacks and serves no conceivable purpose per se, let alone useful purpose. –  iride scent  22:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Right - point to the Bathrobe Cabal page and MfD, I think the right call (keeping it) was made there. But this is, as you say, entirely different. Avruch  T 16:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Terminate with extreme prejudice. Frank  |  talk  23:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Serves no encyclopedic purpose. Oren0 (talk) 07:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as worthless nonsense. Stifle (talk) 12:22, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep It is a place for us t relieve ourselves of agony caused by things on the WP. If someone wants to let off steam, they can go there. It serves the purpose of a coffee break. Like talk pages. When you have a break some want a chat to other ditors. Apart from concerning other editors, there is no use of a talk page. This is like a talk page. I'm learning psychology. If people post things they need help with then I hope to help. It's a concern page. Why does everything need to help WP. A userspace is useless; it won't help with WP. This is my userspace so it won't help with the WP. Of course it's useless. But so is everything else that hasn't got any encyclopedia help. Some editors devote themselves to doing things that aren't doing anything to the pages but are still doing something useful, par example. READ THIS. Chubb  enna  itor  16:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: WP:UP is very clear on this matter – content unrelated to the encyclopaedia should not exist in userspace. Your comments here make it appear like you believe otherwise. You might want to have a look at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Esperanza/Archive1; in particular, have a search through for the phrase "coffee lounge". haz (talk) 16:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Reply Userspace shouldn't exist then. coffee break, not coffee lounge. I help with the encyclopedia. Does it matter whether it contributes to the encyclopedia? It isn't for the public. The public rarely comes onto a user space. We are a public encyclopedia. What the public doesn't see it doesn't need to know about. We are volunteers. We help the encyclopedia. Why can't we have fun? Boohoohoo, they are doing something that's not to do with the encyclopedia. As long as we are contributing then what's the problem? Chubb  enna  itor  19:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom and Iridescent. KillerChihuahua?!? 21:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Useless page, 'blowing off steam' doesn't apply as policies still apply on those pages. &mdash; neuro  (talk)  07:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. This user is an active contributor and should be given some leeway. A guestbook isn't an uncommon subpage. - Mgm|(talk) 10:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Guestbooks are useless and do not assist in writing an encyclopedia, but they are relatively harmless, so they are generally left alone. This is not harmless. And how exactly are you figuring that "he is active" means anything other than "he is active"? I'm looking at WP:NPA, and I'm missing the part where "active contributors are exempt." Perhaps you can point me to that? KillerChihuahua?!? 13:31, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. If you have issues with what people have written there then don't read it, Wikipedia is not censored. How is that page harming the encyclopedia? If users have subpages on finding their secret page why is this any different? Do those secret pages serve an encyclopedic purpose? Lp1234 (talk) 13:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Not Censored does not apply here. NPA does. Removing PAs is not censorship. You are free to go off to a blog somewhere and whine and bitch all you want. KillerChihuahua?!? 13:28, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok I see your points but telling me to "whine and bitch all you want" doesn't seem very civil to me - more like a PA. Doesn't seem like ememplarary behaviour for an admin Lp1234 (talk) 13:48, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not telling anyone to "whine and bitch" - that's the stated purpose of the page we are discussing. I am saying fine, if anyone wishes to do so, do so elsewhere. This is a Mfd page, not your talk page. The "you" was the proverbial "you" meaning, in all practical intentions, anyone at all. Sheesh. KillerChihuahua?!? 13:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Serves little if any encyclopedic purpose; couldn't you just 'blow off steam' in Notepad or something and then delete the file?  RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 18:36, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep I'm going to sum this page up in a few sentences so pay attention:It provides and escape, I mean would you rather that people vandalize Wikipedia, cause they're mad? I mean this is the place to vandalize, but not hurt anyone, or the encyclopedia. It's just a place to "blow off steam", without hurting anyone. Please keep.--  Iamawesome  800  21:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not an appropriate use of userspace. If editors wish to 'blow off steam', they have other avenues that are available to them. Wikipedia is not the place. seresin ( ¡? ) 
 * Delete, obviously per User:KillerChihuahua above. Trusilver  00:18, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment places that don't serve a purpose are everywhere. Instead of going to a user page and saying things in a stubborn manner, people can come here to get rid of that. Blow off steam probably wasn't the best title. Why delete something that doesn't hurt anyone? A userspace can be ignored as it is not a primary part of the WP. This is a question needed to be answered. Why delete something that doesn't matter? Unless you are too hooked up on the 'law', why go to the other of all this? Chubb  enna  itor  17:20, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as nonsense WP:NOT Secret account 22:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * But so's a Userspace. Chubb  enna  itor  16:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.