Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Pearl999

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Non-admin closure. — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Pearl999


Basically, I think we should "Let sleeping dogs lie" as the old saying goes. This is a User Talk Page for a user who has terminated her account (probably some time in late 2010), as a search on Special:Global user manager has confirmed. This explains why there is no User Page, only a User Talk Page, and I think it useless to have a User Talk Page for an account that is now terminated. Not blocked (I see no block notice) but voluntarily terminated, and not merely suspended but actually terminated, that is. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 18:58, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - No rationale given to override the strong consensus that user talk pages should not be deleted except in extraordinary circumstances. I do not see any extraordinary circumstance here. It is not terminated, they can pick up tomorrow if they choose.  We don't terminate accounts. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 19:42, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Nobody claimed we terminated the account. There is no record of the account in a "Global user manager" search, which would imply she permanently deleted her account voluntarily. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 23:28, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Accounts are not terminated, that is my point. They can be abandoned, we can indef, but they can't be deleted/terminated/whatever.  See WP:DELTALK, the guidelines which serves as a reference here, which states "User talk pages and user talk archives created by page move are generally not deleted; they are usually needed for reference by other users."  Unless there is some overwhelming reason to delete, we do not do so.  Even a series of BLP violations on that talk page would just be revdel'ed or oversighted, we wouldn't delete the whole talk page. Deleting talk pages like this is simply not done. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 00:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * So, if accounts can't be terminated even voluntarily by the user himself/herself (in this case herself), why is it that a "Global user manager" search yields no (searchable) record of an account that I know for a fact existed in the past? Isn't that search page supposed to be able to find all accounts that currently exist, active or inactive?
 * If I were entirely mistaken about the very purpose of the "Global account manager" search page, I would withdraw this nomination, but if I at least were right about the purpose of the "Global account manager" search, that would imply something fishy. Especially if accounts can't be terminated by policy and as the site is programmed, because if someone had to hack deep into a server to erase all globally searchable record of the account itself, for all we know that User Talk Page could have worms or something. I hadn't thought of that until you said users have no way of terminating their own account, but it just makes the lack of any global search results that much weirder.
 * Again, though, if the "Global user manager" doesn't index all accounts globally for some crazy reason, I'll withdraw the nomination. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 06:02, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * SUL shows them here, and we didn't have global accounts until 2008, so there was no "global" (unified) accounts before then. Everyone who quit editing before unified accounts were created would be in the same situation.  SUL doesn't even list the proper date for my account registration because it was so long ago, and the WP user list doesn't either. There are lots of these little "bugs" here.  But in the end, accounts can NOT be terminated or deleted.  There is no capacity in the interface to do this action. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 15:10, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That still doesn't explain why "Global user manager" shows no record of Pearl999. She quit in 2010, not 2008 or prior. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 04:05, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. I can't follow the discussion about the user manager above, but the account has contributions so it was active, and no special reason has been presented to delete the talk page. Mackensen (talk) 14:52, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn. I looked into the matter further, and found that I made this nomination based on incorrect information. Someone please close the debate. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 07:29, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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