Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Alphabetical order

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  WITHDRAWN. Herostratus (talk) 23:19, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Alphabetical order

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It's not a helpful page. I'd fix it but it's not clear enough to that I can figure out exactly what its trying to say. I think it's saying "Categories are sorted in Unicode order" but is it "by the software" or "how you should do"? We don't use Unicode order for anything here cos it puts "Z" before "a" and that'd be madness. Maybe the software uses it for some purposes but so.

It's not marked as an essay, there's no nutshell (one reason I can't even figure out what it's about). It looks like Manual of Style type advice but it's not integrated into the MOS.

There's no activity on the talk page, I don't think the page is read or referenced much. It just gets in the way of someone trying to figure out details of how we alphabetize here. Herostratus (talk) 10:34, 21 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep - It is an explanation of the order in which Special pages lists page names, etc. It warns you that it puts "Z" before "a", etc. Not understanding the system of ordering undermines its usefulness. - Patrick (talk) 11:46, 21 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep as above and add the information page banner to the top of the page. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 19:58, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks for the explanation, Patrick and [[User:Godsy. Now that I understand what's going on here, I extensively rewrote the article, moved it, and will now withdraw the nom. If you guys would check my rewrite and fix any errors that'd be nice, thanks. I assumed that "Ed" comes before "Edgar" as this surely must be true. I moved the page to "Wikipedia:Alphabetical order (article names)", since the current title looks too much like it'd be an MOS advisement on how to order lists. Herostratus (talk) 23:16, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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