Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Russia (3rd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete.  —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;— 15:55, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Russia (3rd nomination)

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April Fools' joke made in bad taste. See the April Fools' talk page regarding these types of jokes. N rco0e   (talk · contribs)   03:17, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete not that it wouldn’t not be in bad taste, but it’d at least actually be funny if it was Russian cruiser Moskva. Dronebogus (talk) 04:24, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete (speedy because it's kind of pointless to spend a week debating a page with a one-day shelf life, not because of any particular CSD). Not a good source of levity. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 07:28, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. In general, joke AfDs are not particularly funny (we have had upwards of 10 for Earth). I don't really understand the idea that political jokes are unforgivably bad -- in the 2019 joke noms we had Hillary Clinton, Andrew Yang, and Mike Pence. Last year we had them for Boris Johnson, Donald Trump, cancel culture, Alternative for Germany ... the joke nom for Police said "The jury of Wikipedia has found this article guilty of being a redneck, white bread, chicken shit motherfucker". Indeed, last year we had a nomination of Russia with a joke about the Soviet Union as the nominator's statement. Are these all funny? Not really. Are they in good taste? Not really. Are they politically neutral? Again, not really. I just don't see why we need to give a damn -- if making joke AfD nominations one day out of the year is a waste of time, then making real MfD nominations of joke AfD nominations is doubly a waste of time.
 * I'll just say that I understand the sentiment of the people who want to delete this, and I hate to be the one asshole who disagrees with an otherwise unanimous consensus, but I really do think that going through project space to demand that nobody have fun in a way that could annoy someone else is an awful way to spend our time. Nobody takes these seriously -- they're already squirreled away in the bowels of projectspace, and then even further they're squirreled away into a clearly labeled joke section of that. If there's something obviously offensive like a personal attack on an editor or a bunch of racial slurs or a BLP violation, then sure, it has to go, but if it's just someone trying to make a joke that ends up being kind of stupid, I cannot see this becoming a problem for the project. jp×g 08:12, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Precedent regarding joke nominations about current ongoing affairs have largely been established in the last 2 years with joke nominations about COVID-19 related topics being deleted (i.e. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/COVID-19 pandemic) B2TF (talk) 08:22, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Like I said above, there have been many brazenly political joke nominations in the last couple years alone, and Russia itself has had two (first and second), none of which were deleted. I do not understand what makes this one different, other than the fact that it has a swear word in it (which could simply be removed without deleting the page). jp×g 16:46, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom. ~ Matthewrb  Talk to me &middot;  Changes I've made 17:40, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:FOOLR #3 "All jokes must be acceptable". Referencing material about a country at war crossed a red line. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - we should probably add Articles for deletion/Vladimir Putin for the same reason. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:45, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vladimir Putin (I would have added it here but this discussion is already happening). ~ Matthewrb  Talk to me &middot;  Changes I've made 00:39, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Serious and sad, but delete. Taking the rationale into account, we have to think about those Russians that are suffering because of this war, and it really is not fair to them. — 3PPYB6 — T ALK — C ONTRIBS  — 01:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as violating the policy. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:14, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as my comment on Wikipedia talk:April Fools Thingofme (talk) 04:22, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.