Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Average new users first article when an Ultimate Vanguard Editor who single-handedly created donald trumps wikipedia page finds the article

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. There is consensus that this is not appropriate for project space. There was some disagreement over deletion vs. userfication, but given that it was called out as a criticism of a particular user, userfication is not an acceptable solution. The editor who created this is free to create a user space parody of excessive tagging that is not associated with any specific user(s). RL0919 (talk) 21:55, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Average new users first article when an Ultimate Vanguard Editor who single-handedly created donald trumps wikipedia page finds the article

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This project page is not a humorous page seems like a sandbox containing many templates and nonsense text. Vitaium (talk) 01:19, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * The nomination doesn't cite any specific deletion policy and it's meant to be humorous Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  01:54, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Harmless satire similar to User:Ritchie333/How newbies see templates and User:ToBeFree/uw-combined-1, all of which illustrate a point about templates by greatly exaggerating their issues. Move to userspace if undesired in the project namespace. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 05:59, 22 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Reverted closure by because closure by proposer was apparently in violation of several parts of Deletion process. I oppose deletion, but am neutral to move to userspace. Closure can be done by a non-involved admin when consensus is established. MarshallKe (talk) 19:08, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems some editors think this page was created as part of an argument. I believe this fact (if true) is irrelevant, and that pages should be judged on their content alone, and judging on intentions of the original editor is thinking in contrary to WP:OWNERSHIP. I find the page funny. Some of the crap needs to be trimmed. Lallint does not own the page because it's in Wiki space. If consensus decides to move to userspace, I would advise Lallint to then delete the page, considering their problems with vandalistic behavior in the past. MarshallKe (talk) 00:22, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This guy humors Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  01:00, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete or Userfication This ungodly mess shouldn't be in project space. I was going to delete it as vandalism until I saw it was the subject of a deletion discussion. This would be over-the-top on April 1st and this wasn't created for just that one day so should we have to live with this forever? If there is a joke buried here, I sure don't detect what it is except for how many templates an editor can cram on one page. Liz Read! Talk! 22:10, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete or Userfy - As Liz says, a mess that shouldn't be in project space. Not harmful in user space, but completely useless, and having either no humor value or not enough humor value to justify being in project space.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:07, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose deletion or blanking. Neutral otherwise. The political components aside, it is humorous. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 04:22, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Title is too long, too many template and nonsense text. Vitaium (talk) 07:01, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You do realize you shouldn't vote on your own MFD? Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  15:36, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose deletion or blanking. Neutral on moving to userspace. It's a humorous critique of how veteran users will excessively template articles by newer users. Many people in this MFD want deletion based on the ungodly amount of templates, not realizing that that is the joke. ☢️Plutonical☢️  ᶜᵒᵐᵐᵘⁿᶦᶜᵃᵗᶦᵒⁿˢ  12:14, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment , leaning towards delete not !voting yet because I don't know if this alone warrants deletion, but it appears that this  created this page in retaliation against another editor who tagged and converted their article into a redirect, see here. They then restored the article but then restored the redirect again with the reasoning "whatever man they're just going to redirect it again with their little overflowing pizza boxes and type 2 diabetes". They also had their PCR revoked for creating a vandalistic article with "gay" in the title. All in all this seems like a competency or temperament issue and I think they might be heading towards a block soon. —GMX(on the go!) 15:02, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * You really did your research! Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  15:41, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Also why did you revert the userspace move? It was in the userspace then you reverted it Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  15:43, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The original close by (which had the result of "Move to the userspace") was reverted by, so I accordingly reverted the move. —GMX(on the go!) 16:42, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I actually find this somewhat amusing, but delete purely because this is a second offense of creating a page to insult another editor over a content dispute. Lallint created Rfd me if u gay four hours after getting the RfD notification for Wikiproject Wikipedia. And, per GMX above, they created this as an apparent dig at Zxcvbnm. Between this and the edit summary GMX quotes, I do wonder if Ponyo's only warning starts to come into play. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) — Preceding undated comment added 10:48, 25 January 2022‎ (UTC)
 * Rfd me if u gay was made just as a joke to see if somebody would rfd it with no other motivation Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  19:23, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Lallint has made three more pages seemingly as a dig towards other editors and also this discussion (the former page (a modification of the Teahouse) has "Poor, Poor Newcomer", "Administrator with 23 thousand edits and a really fancy signature" and other names) ., please stop doing this. Stick to more productive tasks and not this. Things are not going to go well if you keep going down this path. —GMX(on the go!) 21:12, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright, i'll stop Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  21:15, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And also those aren't digs, they're just a replacement for this article once it gets deleted, not as a jab or anything but as an actual humor article instead of a targeted attack Lallint  ⟫⟫⟫  Talk  21:16, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the misunderstanding and thanks for stopping. I've stricken out part of my comment. Having a hard time thinking right now, will come back to this later. Cheers. —GMX</b><b style="color:#000;padding:1px">(ping!)</b> 01:54, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Userfy, seems harmless enough there. Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  02:17, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Userfy pages in project space are usually ones which are useful to the project, or at least to more than one editor. But I don't see any reason to think this is actually harmful and therefore don't think it should be deleted.  Hut 8.5  09:22, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia values humor in project space, especially if it illustrates a point about the community. In fact, we have an entire WikiProject dedicated to it. Humor is useful to the project. Don't be a Fuddy-duddy. MarshallKe (talk) 13:20, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete A juvenile attempt at humor, not useful in any way. <span style="font:bold 15px 'Bradley Hand','Bradley Hand ITC';color:#044;text-shadow:0 0 4px #033,0 0 10px #077;"> —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;— 21:58, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, utter nonsense, IMO qualifies for CSD G1. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 02:25, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * (no, it doesn't; the scope of G1 is very limited and does not encompass even the worst comprehensible disruption.) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:57, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
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