Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Don't hold a grudge


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was speedily deleted by request of page creator. &mdash; Mike (talk &bull; contribs) 17:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't hold a grudge

 * Strong Delete. This essay misrepresents Wikipedia policy and also itemizes the creator's specific complaints with one editor (namely me), making it, in my opinion, an attack page.  I refer users to this section of my talk page, in which the essay's creator accuses me of virtually everything he has itemized within this essay, prompted by my delete vote (note: not nomination, vote) in the "don't be lazy"/"don't be a snob" essay below, all stemming from the editor still holding a ... wait for it ... grudge ... (the irony is not lost on me) ... over a few AfD nominations conducted in mid-June.  In said section, when I responded with policy cites and, finally, a well-meant and courteously phrased offer to go through the dispute resolution process (again, see the aforementioned talk page section), the essay's creator indicated he had no desire to continue the discussion and then proceeded to create this attack essay. Aside from the issue of it being a disguised attack page, its content is also confusing to readers and in many places contradictory to Wikipedia policy, in that it attempts to argue against (a) citing policy (skirting a policy by citing policy? and it is somehow acceptable for one party to cite policy, but not for the respondent to cite policy in response?); (b) referring to an editor's editing history (oftentimes very relevant in many Wikipedia venues); and (c) remaining civil (see "pretending there's not a problem" section), all items that should be considered positives in the Wikipedia process. This is a cleverly disguised attack page created out of frustration following a debate in which the essay creator failed to embody the very equalities he champions in his first paragraph &mdash; staying cool, assuming good faith, remaining civil, and, ironically enough, not holding a grudge. &mdash; Mike (talk &bull; contribs) 02:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - Do you ever quit? The article just went up. The fact that you tagged it for deletion right off the bat speaks volumes about your intent. Nevertheless, the essay is some general ideas about Wikipedia and dealing with other editors. Nobody is named and it is meant as a general guideline. PT  ( s-s-s-s ) 03:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I am resolving to suspend any further comment on this matter until the resolution of Requests_for_mediation/PT_and_WCityMike, requesting same of user:WCityMike. PT  ( s-s-s-s ) 04:01, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed, although my understanding is that PT does not object to it continuing to proceed, and its eventual resolution, without our input. &mdash; Mike (talk &bull; contribs) 04:11, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. PT  ( s-s-s-s ) 04:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as essay of questionable usefulness. Stifle (talk) 09:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep for now. Find a different venue than MFD to work out this feud that you seem to be having. --JJay 13:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, watching someone's contributions is not "holding a grudge" or "stalking" if they have had a history of problems. This essay is someone's personal opinion and belongs on their userpage, not in project space. Catamorphism 17:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Regardless of the merits of not holding a grudge (which are IMO adequately covered at WP:STALK, WP:NPA etc), this essay was clearly motivated by a disagreement with a specific editor. Articles started for the wrong reasons can be made into good articles and kept on that basis, but the same leeway should not apply to editors' essays. --Sam Blanning(talk) 23:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete This page is part of a personal dispute and should not be in the project name space. Eluchil404 05:17, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment "Pick your battles." I've placed a db-author tag on the essay. PT  ( s-s-s-s ) 16:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.