Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:General sanctions/Catalan independence

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  keep and mark as failed proposal. (non-admin closure) —  Godsy (TALK CONT ) 00:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:General sanctions/Catalan independence


Failed general sanctions proposal. No longer serves any purpose, and should not be in the Wikipedia space. Should be uncontroversial housekeeping to get rid of it. RGloucester — ☎ 00:31, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep, archive with reference to Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive294. It is major reference point for that discussion, and it seems to have been supported, before discussion died down and the thread was archived without close.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:44, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Questions - First, does this do any harm? Second, is there any significant reason to keep it for a historical record?  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:54, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * My concern is that this page is currently a subpage of General sanctions. This gives it an air of authority, that is to say, that of an approved community process, as opposed to that of a draft. As a draft, it never belonged as a subpage of WP:GS...it's a fait accompli-type situation, of a page having been 'legitimised' in appearance and form before having been approved. Instead, it should've been created in the userspace or elsewhere as a proposal. I see no evidence of a reason to keep it for historical reference, as the proposal was never implemented, but if it is to be kept, it needs to be moved to the userspace and marked as historical.  RGloucester  — ☎ 03:28, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * How about "move without redirect" and modify the sole incoming link at Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive294? Move to Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive294/Catalan independence proposal.  Or userfy. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That'd be fine by me. I just want to ensure that this proposal is treated as a proposal, and not as something else.  RGloucester  — ☎ 13:21, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep but remove the ombox "this is a log" notice, and add failed proposal. Failed proposals tend to sit in the place where they failed, unless there's some good reason to move them somewhere else, and I don't think there is in this case. For example, Manual of Style/Dates and numbers/Date autoformatting is not part of the manual of style, Notability (extrasolar planets) is not a notability guideline, and there are no RfA clerks. Most of the pages in Category:Wikipedia failed proposals are pages that would have become guidelines had a separate discussion succeeded, not necessarily the discussion page itself. That being said I did not find any other failed general sanctions proposals on separate pages like this, but I still don't think it needs to be removed. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:53, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and mark as historical. Failed proposals are still generally useful, such as to editors who might consider proposing something similar at some point in the future. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 23:11, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep add a note saying it doesn't apply anymore if that's the reason for MFD nom.Egaoblai (talk) 19:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep and mark as a failed proposal. See above comments.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:28, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.