Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Generally notable people

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  Keep as an acceptable project-space essay. Feel free to improve. --RL0919 (talk) 18:52, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Generally notable people


Basically a random mishmash of the single-topic notability guidelines. I don't see any purpose in keeping this essay around. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calliopejen1 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete Written in 2007, a kind of draft list that never made it into an essay. Too short and general to be of any practical use as a guide to notability on WP. No reason to keep this. -- Klein zach  22:21, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as redundant. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 02:53, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep.  Valid essay directly related to the project.  Wikipedia-notability is a most confusing term of jargon, and there are many essays that try to deal with it.  This one, as explained on the talk page, is taken from one of the "notability subguidelies" (one that predates WP:N) ina sensible action that removed essay-like material from a guideline as it accumulated through mergers material from similar guidelines and then became more tightly focused as a guideline.  Allowing, and keeping such policy/guideline-addressing essays is a very good idea in better preserving coherent theses and reducing the stuffing of the talk pages with users' posts that are essentially mini-essays.  Even if this essay had problems, which it doesn't, the most we would do it userfy, or perhaps merge and redirect.  We do not delete project related essays without a very good reason.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 14:20, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * keep none of this is bad advice, it might not be as expansive as the individual project guidelines but this is a good beginner guide to what is considered to be generally automatically notable. It is a good guide to "notability as it is applied in practice" in the context of AfD discussions as well. I think that the more good advice on notability we have on the wiki the better off we are.  This is the sort of page I might point a new user to as a guide to generally what sorts of people we have articles on, or as an explanation when someone says "well you have an article on so-and-so why not one on my 5th grade biology teacher!" in lieu of pointing them to WP:OTHERSTUFF it would be more useful to point them to a list of what it takes, in general terms, to get an article. HominidMachinae (talk) 02:23, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Violates no policies nor guidelines, and is an essay marked as such. No reason to delete -> default to keep. Collect (talk) 17:27, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, while it duplicates other guidelines it is marked as an essay, and essays enjoy wide latitude. If people start using it as a reason to keep articles, we may wish to look again. Stifle (talk) 12:41, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.