Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Holiday Commitee


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. ~ Riana ⁂ 08:40, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Holiday Commitee
Not only a drain on the servers, but also a waste of time that could be much more valuably spent working on the encyclopedia (Wikipedia is not MySpace). Unlike other projects that people sign up for, this seems designed purely to spam user talk pages without being asked first. Not only that, but I personally find "Have a great Remembrance Day from the Holiday Committee!" to be highly offensive. Such silliness is annoying and smacks of ignorance, as does the the name of this organisation. Moreschi Talk 13:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a social networking site and should not be used as a forum to spam people with irrelevant messages. Delete.  --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 13:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a social networking site; social networking sites are social networking sites. There are plenty out there, most of which already have Wikipedia user groups on them. I suggest that editors interested in this sort of thing go join up. --bainer (talk) 13:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a social networking site. Go to the rather disgusting sites like Facebook to these activites. Delete, per Jeffrey O. Gustafson.  Maxim (talk)  13:33, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the effort to build community, but like people said above, Wikipedia is about building an encyclopedia. The community evolves from this common goal of accumulating knowledge. This page does not help. Danny 13:34, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete the above say it clearly... WP:NOT Myspace.  ALKIVAR &trade; &#x2622; 13:34, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete. I am sure your intentions are the best and I really do appreciate that but this really isn't appropriate here. JodyByak, yak, yak 13:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete The creator obviously isn't planning to celebrate English Orthography Day. An ill-conceived project with plenty of potential for mischief. --Folantin 13:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete committee, but keep templates around. While I wouldn't mind having the templates available for individuals to greet their friends, having a committee to do this goes against WP:NOT#MYSPACE, and is made worse if the committee intends to greet as many people as possible, including strangers. Not everybody is Christian, and may be offended if they receive Easter or Christmas greetings. The Happy ANZAC, Remembrance Day, and Veterans Day templates are particularly offensive and should be deleted. I appreciate the intent to build community, but I don't feel this is the way to do it. -- Kyok o  13:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete; we have WikiProject Holidays already. John Vandenberg 13:53, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete The page probably will not get much attention, but how is it making it a social networking site? This is similar the the Birthday Commitee, only with holidays! Thanks, Codelyoko193  Talk 13:56, 22 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: I'd also like to add that when I originally created the commitee, users would put their name on a list if they would want to be notified, and what holiday they would want to be notified of. That way, no one would be offended. However, when Socks01 rehauled it, he did away with that feature. Oh well... Thanks, Codelyoko193  Talk 18:01, 23 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per Folantin. Let's spend our time building the encyclopedia.  ;-)  /Blaxthos 14:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - I can personally see how for individuals who have indicated a particular interest in a given subject, or are from a particular area, this might be useful, and, perhaps, if the templates were changed, could help build the encyclopedia. Particularly if the templates said something to the effect of "Happy (fill in the blank - Canada Day)! We all celebrate this day of (fill in the blank - the establishment of Canada), which is of vital importance to the people of (fill in the blank - Canada). Also, if you have the time, please review the article (name of holiday - Canada Day) and see if there are any improvements you can make to it, and help us all ensure that the rest of the world really does understand that Canada and the United States are not the same thing!" But these templates and this group fall far short of that. Saving the templates, though, and maybe giving them to WikiProject Holidays, wouldn't be a bad idea though. John Carter 15:03, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete agree with Danny. Acalamari 19:13, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, per above reasoning.  Sebi  [talk] 00:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. M. (er) 00:43, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - pointless distraction.  Lara Love  01:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Go to Facebook, leave us alone - Man those things are annoying... Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 01:34, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - per all previous comments above. If the templates were somehow used to incite contributions to the individual holiday articles, then they'd be useful in Wikipedia, like notifying certain focus groups (like other WikiProjects) of stub holidays that need expansion on the day of the holiday. Unfortunately, it doesn't serve that purpose. I'm even more convinced that deletion is best when I read its To-do list. Helpful. - Mtmelendez (Talk 02:28, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete only the page but only because it claims to be a committee. There shouldn't be a committee devoted to this. But if it were just a place to list holiday greeting templates, that wouldn't be so bad. Wikipedia isn't a social networking service, but people do greet each other, and we have more than a few templates in accordance with that (such as that smile box). John Carter's idea is good -- modify the templates so that they encourage improvement of relevant articles. Equazcion • argue/improves • 09:05, 09/23/2007
 * Delete. I was initially going to !vote Keep, as per my essay Editors matter and my strong belief that, as Wikipedia is a community, we should keep pages which strengthen the community and keep editors happy. However, the mass of Deletes on this MfD, and the apparent lack of interest in the project, suggests that it doesn't really have much of a function in building the community. Also, I agree with Moreschi that "have a great Remembrance Day" is slightly insensitive - Remembrance Day (Veterans' Day in the US) is when we're supposed to remember the troops who fought and died for freedom and democracy in various wars, which is a time for solemn contemplation and gratitude for our respective countries' war veterans, not a time for celebration WaltonOne 13:35, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I am in favour of pages helping interaction within the community to a limited extent, but this goes too far. Not only does the community not like it, as not one person has spoken in its defence here so far, but it could potentially interfere with the working of the encyclopedia (by cluttering people's talk pages) and some templates here may be considered offensive. Some templates listed on the page may be acceptable, and they should be TfD'd individually. Hut 8.5 16:08, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, just like userboxes only bigger, more annoying, and intended for placing on other people's pages. --Stormie 06:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, ^ true true. — j acĸrм  (talk ) 22:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak DeleteNice idea but as everyone says, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Djmckee1  -  Talk - Sign  16:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. How pointless can you get.  This is an encyclopedia, not a greeting card service for fucks sake.  Burntsauce</FONT> 21:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.