Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:If the server is down


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Anthøny 04:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

If the server is down
This page was previously listed for deletion here in 2005; that discussion closed with no consensus.

Naconkantari [ tagged] this page with. As this can't be used on pages in the Wikipedia namespace, I am listing it here. The reason given by Naconkantari was:


 * If the server is down, this page won't be much help. There have been no edits since 24 July 2006.

– Gurch 18:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, per my above reason. thanks Gurch! Nacon kantari  18:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep This page provides information that users can record and keep on file for use in case the server is down. It may be that few will do so, but some will. The information is at least potentially helpful, and i can't see that it can do any possible harm. DES (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I should add that there was also an MfD in 2005, that discussion is at Wikipedia:Miscellaneous deletion/Wikipedia:Contingency Page For When The Main Wikipedia Server Is Down and also had a no consensus result -- i closed that one. DES (talk) 18:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops, how did I get the date wrong? It was the same MfD, fixed it :) – Gurch 18:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The MediaWiki software provdies informative error messages when the site in unavailable.  Nacon kantari  18:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

vote changed 21:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. It does no harm, and the use is to provide a place that people can bookmark for use then. If the websites it links to are inactive, that's a different matter. Ab e g92 contribs 18:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The Mediawiki error messages provide information on where to go to get status updates. This page is redundant.  Nacon kantari  18:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. Harmless. Newyorkbrad 18:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - neither page is updated frequently (especially Berlios, AFAIK). MediaWiki error messages already provide the relevant information ("You can go to #wikipedia and ask what's wrong"), but most importantly... if the server is down, how is anyone going to see this page? Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 19:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Titoxd's "most importantly" and because I don't think I'm the only person who read it and went "huh?". &mdash; $PЯING  rαgђ  20:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Titoxd, this page is pointless to have around. --Core desat 20:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete It's completely useless as a practical guide, and it's not funny either. YechielMan 23:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Yechieman. Bushcarrot ( Talk·Guestbook ) 00:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. MER-C 03:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, this was a good joke on The Simpsons once but there's no reason for us to use it.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  09:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. "You should bookmark those two sites, because of course once Wikipedia is down, you won't be able to access this page" - self-explanatory. This page's purpose is to provide links that'll confirm the server's dysfunction, but nothing more than the MediaWiki errors can offer. Michael as 10 13:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete → Not needed, not useful, and when it could, it's not accessible.  Snowolf (talk) CON COI  -  21:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Tag historical; if they do not provide any additional info than the error messages, then I don't see why we can't lay it to rest. Ab e g92 contribs 21:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - the only time you'd ever be looking for a page like this is when the server is down, which is precisely when you can't look for it. Moreschi Want some help? Ask! 10:59, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Tag historical - it's been around for 4 years. There probably was a time when the server message wasn't around; this is a clear part of Wikipedia history, and should be tagged historical. But oh, do the snowballs burn. Grace notes T  § 17:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. Useful. I ran across the page a few months back and bookmarked the pages. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has done so. --- RockMFR 18:43, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - when the database is locked, there is usually a notice which tells people to go to IRC. Real96 21:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - If the server isn't up, this page serves no purpose. ^ demon [omg plz] 19:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.