Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Ignore all rules/more detail

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was All rules ignored. (Non-admin closure) --Surturz (talk) 02:28, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Ignore all rules/more detail


Dormant page that does not seem necessary. Seems like a good faith effort. meshach (talk) 05:16, 23 August 2012 (UTC) withdrawn meshach (talk) 14:48, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: When the MfD was listed, the nominated page looked like this plus this and was split during this MfD by Kim Bruning as noted below. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 16:20, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Page was made in good faith, but it's a WP:REDUNDANTESSAY. Anyone looking for an earlier version of IAR can just check the page's edit history, and What "Ignore all rules" means already details what IAR stands for. The essay is short and obscure enough that merging or redirecting seems pointless.--SGCM (talk)  05:50, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, to be technically correct (the best kind of correct) the essay is several times longer than the page it is attached to ;-) . Discussion of our understanding of rules is kind of important in historical context too. Do you normally go and page through every single policies edit history to find historically notable revisions, and how they fit together in context? ;-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 09:15, 23 August 2012 (UTC)


 * To be fair, I actually sort of forgot this existed; IIRC it's orphaned from part of an older layout for IAR. I propose to either speedy merge back into the obvious parent WP:IAR (ha, good luck!), or with WP:WIARM (which is more likely to gain consensus) . --Kim Bruning (talk) 09:16, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I've been WP:BOLD and proceeded to merge and redirect (to WP:WIARM), as is within the remit of any editor at any time :-). Remaining question is, do we need to keep the redir? I've checked the What Links Here, and the page is effectively an orphan (the only references to it are things like eg a namespace overview, a question 'are you still working on this' that no one ever answered, and pertaining to this MFD). --Kim Bruning (talk) 09:24, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Kim Bruning's Resolution Delete - Delete what's left of the nominated Wikipedia:Ignore all rules/more detail page after Kim's decision to ignore all rules and perform a 09:19, 23 August 2012‎ merge and redirect during deletion discussion. (I like the irony) . As a subpage of the Wikipedia:Ignore all rules policy, the essay received special positioning from which it could gain additional authority. I don't think Subpages permits that (or should permit that). Kim's move of the essay from being a subpage of a policy to it's own project space page at WP:WIARM, brought the content to be within Wikipedia essays and put it in a position to gain acceptance on its own merits. In short, keep WP:WIARM (which isn't up for deletion), and delete the remainder of the nominated Wikipedia:Ignore all rules/more detail page after Kim's 09:19, 23 August 2012‎ edit of the page. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 10:24, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Glad to be of some amusement. :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 10:40, 23 August 2012 (UTC) Just to be sure, can you link me to which rule I actually ignored? I tried searching, but AFAICT bold actions are (still) permitted during deletion discussions.
 * I'm not sure if you actually ignored a rule, but I thought it sounded cool to say that you applied IAR to perform the action. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 10:42, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * <3 --Kim Bruning (talk) 10:42, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind response and you would have been justified responding differently from open kindness. It was a pretty stupid comment/joke effort on my part and I struck it out above. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 16:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I struck my "delete" position and replaced it with a keep that clarifies my position. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 16:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - A problem with the nomination is that this MfD is a subpage of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Ignore all rules rather than an MfD page on its own right. Can you fix that as well? Apparently, it also happened with the MfD Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Ignore all rules/Brainstorming. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 10:44, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Replace content. I recommend we replace the content with "No really, ignore it!" --Surturz (talk) 04:21, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep I like the additional stuff here, and it's not harmful and perhaps can help avoid someone using ignore all rules to justify vandalism or something stupid like that. Ego White Tray (talk) 03:38, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Withdraw, as the nom I would like to withdraw this deletion request (although someone else can close the debate). The consensus is to keep the redirect and WP:NOHARM specifically states that exceptions can be made for certain namespaces.  Thanks to everyone for participating! meshach (talk) 19:51, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.