Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:List of infoboxes/Proposed/Infobox window covering


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was No consensus. Further consensus for use/development should continue at Wikipedia talk:List of infoboxes/Proposed/Infobox window covering. — xaosflux  Talk  16:12, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

List of infoboxes/Proposed/Infobox window covering
This does not perform the function of an infobox (which is supposed to provide a "consistently-formatted table which is present in articles with a common subject to provide summary information consistently between articles or improve navigation to closely related articles in that subject"), but rather is merely a fancy formatting & caption for an image. Zim Zala Bim talk  14:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes it does.--Chuck Marean 17:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * See.--Chuck Marean 17:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's consistently-formatted. It's table. It's for articles with a common subject. It's to provide summary information, consistently between window covering articles. --Chuck Marean 17:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Nuke redundant to generic infobox and the excess border on three sides is unforgivable. Resurgent insurgent (as admin) 03:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not excess border. It's window curtains. It's for articles about window coverings. Chuck Marean 21:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep the infobox. It’s great. This picture frame has interesting parameters. It can change colors and picture size. It looks similar to a window with a shade and curtains. It’s for window covering articles and is fine for other articles, and for portals and user pages. It can also be used in sandboxes to see it change colors. Chuck Marean 07:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - as I previously mused "...what the infobox is for - I have really no idea as to the scope of topics it covers (ie which articles you ar esuggesting would use it), yes miniblinds, but what else ? And for these other articles, does the heirachy of the parameter names mean anything to the average reader (eg what is "subclass" supposed to mean ?). ". Whilst the scope of articles that it might apply for seems not unresasonable (ie items mentioned in Window covering & Window blind), previous version of the proposed infobox would allow variable description as for internal or external use, mechanism of closure (see previous documentation of 25 October 2007). The parameter names needed better selection, and obvious other distinguishing parameters such as transmission_light, heat_retension or ventillation_permitted were not offered. Indeed the template scope has been cut back to just image and surrounding colour selection (see documenmtation of 14November). Given no template required to merely include a picture, this nolonger seeks to be an Infobox - for which information must be given or sumarised. David Ruben Talk 00:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That doesn't mean it should be deleted. It could be renamed. It could someday have categories, if someone finds out what they are. In the mean time, it could be used as an alternative picture frame. Chuck Marean 21:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete It seems to be an attempt to add clever "window dressing" to images, but it really just adds clutter. Sχeptomaniacχαιρετε 18:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not clutter. It has a size parameter now, and it's designed to look like it has curtains and a blind. Chuck Marean 21:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

This is the infobox I designed: This is Davidruben’s version: This is my version after that: This is the version after ZimZalaBim criticized (on the window blind history page) the table above the picture, as being “aesthetically unplealsing”: However, if the table were put under the picture like in a taxobox, it would no longer look like a Venetian blind. Also, I’m not sure what the categories and subcategories should be. Chuck Marean 19:21, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Chuck, here's the point. At Wikipedia, we have long-standing consensus approaches to both infoboxes and how to display images. Your contribution - to be blunt - detracts from those existing efforts. -- Zim Zala Bim talk  23:35, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep - "Infobox window covering" is a proposed infobox. As near as I can tell, the proposal still is being considered. It would be inappropriate to delete this page while the proposal is pending. If you want this page deleted, you first need to have a consensus reject the proposal. MfD is not the place to accept or reject infobox proposals. Set up a discussion here and after five days, post a request at WP:AN to have an admin close the discussion with a conclusion and with top and bottom templates. -- Jreferee    t / c  01:17, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.