Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Ananny

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was keep. JohnCD (talk) 13:13, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Long-term abuse/Ananny


Most people would disagree with this nomination: but If we believe in WP:DENY and WP:RBI, then is there any need to create "Hall Of Fame"for vandals. As Wikipedia once said, we are not going to create Hall of fame for trolls anymore. Trolls or vandals almost same thing. Cosmic  Emperor  11:19, 19 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Strong keep The abuse is active and ongoing. The "Hall of Fame" argument is spurious and outweighed by LTA's value in identifying and dealing with further abuse, particularly sockpuppetry, from editors who have severely disrupted Wikipedia. These are not garden variety trolls and vandals. Please read Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Long-term abuse (2nd nomination) which ended in "Snow Keep". It clearly outlines the consensus for keeping LTA pages in general, and particularly those with on-going abuse. Template:NOINDEX keeps the page out of search engines. CosmicEmperor, why did you choose this particular page and Long-term abuse/Ararat arevut out of the more than 60 active LTA pages? This is appears to be a very ill-thought out campaign to circumvent the consensus at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Long-term abuse (2nd nomination), piece by piece. Voceditenore (talk) 11:51, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Campaign for what? I can't nominate all of them at the same time. I only nominated two whose real names and in one case; addresses are given. Those which look like username with no relation to real identity, i am not interested in those vandals. I knew people will say keep. I will try to convince others afterwards that, we must remove their real names and personal details, and mention them as usernames or alternate names. Giving their real names, location is like creating a celebrity out of vandals.  Cosmic   Emperor  12:27, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * CosmicEmperor, if you knew that this would be a speedy keep and were trying to accomplish something else instead, then it's a bad-faith nomination, especially since your concern about "real names" appears to have nothing to do with privacy and is a general LTA issue. I suggest you take it to an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Long-term abuse, post a notice about the discussion on the Administrators' Noticeboard and stop wasting everyone's time with these MfDs. Voceditenore (talk) 12:55, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * If I don't get other's views, then how i will proceed further. I need to know why people want to create"Vandal's article page:: I had a second option if people don't delete(removing their personal details/suppressing from public view). Cosmic   Emperor  12:58, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * CosmicEmperor, if you want to know "why people want to create "Vandal's article page", simply read Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Long-term abuse (2nd nomination), something you should have done before you opened these MfDs. As I said, if you want general views on the issue of real names in LTAs, then open an RfC. Do not file a bad faith/frivolous MfD. Voceditenore (talk) 13:07, 19 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep - Clearly appropiate page that complies with the instructions at LTA. I also agree with Voceditenore. --TL22 (talk) 12:11, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Useful...Modernist (talk) 12:15, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong keep This person pops up several times a year and it's necessary to have this LTA page available with all the links handy. freshacconci talk to me  12:20, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. If there are legitimate privacy concerns, that info can be removed, but the page makes dealing with this disruptive vandal easier. --Akhilleus (talk) 12:35, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I am Okay with it. We must remove their real names and addresses, personal details: Not that i care for their privacy; but it's like making them a celebrity with Wikipedia notability. Cosmic   Emperor  12:49, 19 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Snow keep - WP:DENY is about trolls, not spammers. Please actually read the WP:DENY before using it as a reason for nomination, and look at LTA profiles before nominating them using WP:DENY. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:03, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep There has to be a very good reason to delete a page from Wikipedia space which is used for administrative, policy and housekeeping subjects. There is a good reason to keep information on regular trolls, vandals and spammers. Liz  Read! <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 19:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)


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