Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Meetup:Kansas City/Women in Jazz March 2020

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  WP:SNOW keep. This isn't what MfD is for. (non-admin closure) L EPRICAVARK (talk ) 06:34, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Meetup:Kansas City/Women in Jazz March 2020

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Wikipedia isn't social media. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, possibly somewhat weak, and tag as historical /Transwiki to Meta where similar social events are posted routinely. I'll wait to hear what the MfD regulars think. Doug Mehus T · C  22:18, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm curious as to why this one event has been nominated for deletion (and was previously nominated for speedy deletion, despite not fitting any criteria for speedy deletion) when there's a category full of similar events happening this month that don't appear to be nominated for deletion. The fact there's clearly categorisation extant, that those categories are populated and that this type of listing appears to be routine would be sufficient to recommend retention unless a coherent argument (beyond the specious bollox of "Wikipedia isn't social media") is presented by the nominator. Nick (talk) 22:35, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Noting 's requesting speedy deletion in this edit that this "isn't encyclopedic." My understanding is that only applies to Main: namespace. There can be all kinds of chatter, banter, essays, and similar in project namespace. Doug Mehus T · C  22:40, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * "isn't encyclopedic" is not a valid speedy deletion criteria; the phrase "isn't encyclopedic" doesn't appear anywhere in the Speedy Deletion policy, in fact, the word encyclopedic doesn't appear anywhere in the Speedy Deletion policy. If it was in main space, it arguably could be deleted as an A7 (an event with no indication of notability) but common sense and common decency would suggest moving it into the correct namespace. Nick (talk) 22:44, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming you were just expanding on what I was saying, not correcting what I said. I didn't mean to imply that that phrase appeared in the speedy deletion policy. I was referring to our overall inclusion criteria for the encyclopedia. Doug Mehus T · C  22:54, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah the document's pathname was a simple typo on behalf of the organizer of today's Kansas City meetup, in announcing a future Kansas City meetup, and I saw that it was corrected immediately. Because yes some kind stranger did the only decent thing as you said, by moving it with a notice even before I saw it—instead of repeatedly abusing the deletion templates, wasting all our time, and needlessly humiliating a librarian and a room full of meetup volunteers. — Smuckola(talk) 04:39, 23 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Some Wikipedians are organising an event with free entry, where collaborative editing will take place to create and improve articles on Wikipedia, and we're thinking of deleting their agenda and worklist?! I fail to see how deleting this page would benefit the project, nor how keeping it would harm the project. I concur with 's closing sentence, more eloquently put than I could manage so I won't repeat his arguments. --kingboyk (talk) 23:20, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, no valid reason to delete that I can see. — 🦊 00:07, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, (edit: adding agreement with Zppix about the community ban because I now see this is one example of this user's bad faith and egregious WP:TENDENTIOUS abuse and WP:NOTHERE) So we have one Wikipedian's crusade against the whole concept of Wikipedia Meetups or their notifications....but, only enforced for just this one event? Not for all the other identical event pages for the rest of the KC Meetup and every other WP:MEETUP in the world? If you have a problem with how every event is announced, then apologize and take it up with WP:MEETUP to change the world. Do you just not know that Meetups exist? What on earth is this nonsensical rationale even supposed to mean? This is not how anything works. — Smuckola(talk) 04:39, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, as theres no valid deletion criteria, and then I propose a community ban against the nominator from opening MfDs similar to this. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 06:08, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Meetups are allowed, otherwise WP:MEETUP would not exist. If that is the direction of the MfD, it should be on that page which would remove all meetup pages as a result. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:30, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.