Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Micronation Collaboration of the Week

Micronation Collaboration of the Week
obvious trolling. Gzornenplatz 05:31, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * Applies by extension to WP:MnCOTW, Template:IsMnCOTW, Template:CurrentMnCOTW, and Template:MnCOTWcandidate.


 * Kill it. Kill it now.  RickK 05:57, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Tuf-Kat 06:01, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * A poor choice for a collaboration project, as micronations are an extremely limited subject (they are micronations, after all). Judging from the page, it appears to have been created by Brick Wall to advance his micronation. Delete. --Slowking Man 06:30, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm going against trend here, and saying keep. If micronations are a valid topic for Wikipedia, why aren't they a valid topic for expansion?
 * Forgot to sign. Lord Bob 06:34, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. The number of self proclaimed 'micronations' that even deserve the slightest bit of consideration is so small that this 'collaboration project' is utterly pointless. I suspect it is intended merely for self promotion. Average Earthman 11:47, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - as witness to a lynching of a micronation that I belonged to, and realising just now what RickK meant as he drove nails into its coffin, and agree with his and others' thinking. I wholeheartedly sign this death warrant. DeusExMachina 13:26, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Additional related templates and shortcut should also be deleted. --Michael Snow 18:15, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * DELETE! And WP:BJAODN. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 20:46, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Useless self-promotion.   &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 22:02, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete and don't BJAODN it, that just encourages them. -- Graham &#9786; | Talk 23:44, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete unless the aim of the project is changed into improving existing articles rather than creating new ones. If changed then my vote is Keep.  Shard 01:16, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete with prejudice. -Sean Curtin 03:06, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete before MnCOTW declares itself to be a sovereign nation within Wikipedia. &bull; Benc &bull; 05:02, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * The article doesn't appear to be obvious trolling to me, but it may be that I'm just not familiar enough with the concept of micronations. Many of the people participating in this discussion seem to have strong opinions on the topic &mdash; could you explain the problem to me? Factitious 05:37, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * I haven't been too closely following the micronation discussions (and there are many) either. The gist is that sometimes people declare themselves an independent country.  For example, my hometown of Frederick, Maryland could be declared a sovereign state by myself at any time.  The government of the US is highly unlikely to recognize this declaration as valid; for various reasons, the governments of every other country are just as unlikely to recognize it.  In facts, hundreds or thousands of people have done just that -- declared some region, from their own bedroom to vast swaths of territory, independent.  These states are not recognized; recognition is the most important component of what makes a "state" a "state".  Thus, without recognition, these self-declared states are not states.  There are extremely small states, like San Marino, which are recognized, and are thus real states; there are other unrecognized "micronations", like Sealand, which have importance which makes them worthy of an article in spite of not being states.  Nevertheless, the vast majority of "micronations" are self-declared and only known because the Internet allows them to make a lot of publicity.  They have no effect on the lives of more than a handful of people, and are thus not worthy of an article at all. There are probably no more than a dozen articles, from micronation to Sealand to Emperor Norton 1, on micronations, which actually deserve an article; thus, a collaboration of the week will not help significantly, but will encourage people to write articles about their pet micronations as though they were "real" in any meaningful sense of the term.  Tuf-Kat 07:02, Oct 9, 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a landfill. Wetman 07:10, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete: Micronations in a microUN. (Oh, and we in Baltimore have the rest of the state wanting us to be a separate nation.  How does that work?)  Geogre 18:06, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Keep. First of all the person who VFD'd this is a known anti-micronationist. See the pathetic edit wars he has done on various Micronation articles. I also realise that Micronations are a taboo topic in Wikipedians, so it is only natural for them to ignorantly vote delete.  Micronations are only a subject of taboo because of their repressed status and the fact that there are people with no lives who try to repress them. I say keep and ban Gzgornenplatz for nominating this. Wikipedia will be a better encyclopedia once factual and infromative information about micronations are produced. Emperor George II 22:44, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * This account is a troll account; see the user's page. Samboy 23:29, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. Antandrus 23:04, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. Obvious trolling. Further to which, Emperor George II is a sockpuppet and vandal --Gene_poole 23:06, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ambi 04:14, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: silliness. Wile E. Heresiarch 20:04, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. This isn't a blog page or private website.  Emperor George's comment is out of line as well.  Gzornenplatz was well within his rights to nominate this.  Given his inclusionist tendencies (and I say that respectfully) and Gene Poole's usual defense of all things micronational, that's all the more reason to vote delete. - Lucky 6.9 04:39, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: Just in case my comments above do not make it clear enough already, Emperor George II is not me. It is a sockpuppet set up by persons as yet unknown specifically to vandalise one article. This sockpuppet/vandal was quickly identified by others soon after it first appeared, and subsequently had its attempts at vandalism reverted and listed on Vandalism in Progress.--Gene_poole 05:06, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Gene_poole is right here; "Emperor George II" is a troll account. Samboy 23:29, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)


 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for self-promotion and all that. Samboy 23:29, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)