Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Partial blocks/Noticeboard/Header

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  no consensus. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:00, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Partial blocks/Noticeboard/Header

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IP insist I take this to MFD. I believe it is a waste of time here, but I nominated the page for WP:G8 (because the original page is now a redirect) and WP:G5 because a sock created this page. I want to get this over with as soon as possible, I believe this falls within the speedy criteria and can immediately be deleted. The parent page was already redirected per an earlier MFD. Awesome Aasim 03:34, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment your previous tag was declined in April, with instruction to link to a prior consensus or list at MFD. Speedy deletion is solely for uncontroversial deletion. The very fact the tag was declined in good-faith by a user in good-standing is enough reason on its own to start a discussion instead. Liz is quite experienced in the area of speedies so it's rather strange that you tried to edit-war the tag in rather than immediately listing here back in April as instructed, and nothing about the page or its creator has changed since that time. I have no opinion on what the outcome of this MFD should be, only that you follow policy and start a discussion rather than edit-warring. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:44B5:EB74:8213:A2B (talk) 04:18, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep and restore original text. This is a page that's transcluded onto another page, a noticeboard, to serve as its header. That noticeboard is no more, as it was redirected to the administrator's noticeboard. The header itself is not what it used to be. When the revisions underneath the redirect are viewed, they will show what the noticeboard looked like with the header, but that is not what it actually looked like, because the header was altered to show that the noticeboard is deprecated. So someone who wants to see what the partial blocks noticeboard was needs to go to the history of the header page and discover there what it really was. It's redundant to mark a page as historical in two different ways. We mark things as historical as they had been before they were deprecated. It's like replacing an essay with the text "this used to be an essay but it was deprecated" and marking that text with Template:Historical. It isn't even logical. Restore the header to its original form to make page history of that noticeboard more usable. Applying G6 one-dimensionally would only serve to break the appearance of the noticeboard page in historical revisions.—Alalch E. 23:31, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Fixed, special:diff/1184364463 —Alalch E. 23:55, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think the cost in losing the header in old revisions is any more significant from the fact that this page is currently useless, and was created by a banned editor in violation of a ban. The PBN was also created by said banned editor before any discussions happened on it. Awesome Aasim 04:48, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I hear you, but I think it's useful insofar as the noticeboard MfD did not delete but redirect, meaning it's preserved for viewing. If we delete the header we just make this viewing much worse. The noticeboard wasn't deleted entirely as a sock creation so the header shouldn't be either. —Alalch E. 09:47, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The MFD hard redirected. A user "Can I Log In" decided to convert to soft redirect for a bit, but after some time I turned it back into a hard redirect since it was pointless to keep the soft redirect for three years. Plus had it become apparent that the PBN was created by a sock, I think the previous MFD would likely have closed as "delete". Awesome Aasim 14:09, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Which is irrelevant as you well know. If you believe it should have closed as delete, then you may list at WP:RFD, but whining that the discussion would have gone your way if only is pointless. If users wish to examine diffs from the brief period the board was in operation Alach E's restoration will increase the fidelity of viewing. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:A162:A930:3F7A:165F (talk) 15:29, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - I am not sure that I understand what the issue is, and deletion requires a reason, while keeping is status quo. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:17, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete I also don't think this was a valid G6 (but I interpret that criterion far more narrowly than anyone else), although I would have accepted it as G5. Nevertheless, this page has no redeeming value and very few people care what old revisions of noticeboards look like. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:19, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
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