Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Piccadilly

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Piccadilly

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WP:NOTSOCIALMEDIA. WikiProjects are "advertised" at WikiProject Council/Proposals, and there's already places for discussing the topics listed, such as WP:TH, WP:HD, and WP:VP.   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 10:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually, WPPicadilly is NOT a help desk. As i stated, its a place to advertise pages and wikiprojects. and you said advertised in quotation, thus it is not really that elligble to be deleted. WPPicadilly is only in its early stages too. Snipertron12   Talk  11:58, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Why would advertising pages be needed?   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 12:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Some pages dont get enough attention and sometimes are even overlooked by wikiprojects. Snipertron12   Talk  12:24, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You know what. Im changing the premise of WPPicadilly. Snipertron12   Talk  12:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Isn't that what Articles for improvement is for?   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 12:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I will look at the article when im at home because im on a school computer that gets filtered alot. Snipertron12   Talk  12:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright. The diffrence from Articles for improvement and Picadilly is that AFI is focusing on ranked articles which are lengthy. Piccadilly aims on new pages/stubs/drafts. Snipertron12   Talk  16:14, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I added a notice to prevent confusion. Snipertron12   Talk  12:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I think User:Snipertron12 is trying to make Piccadilly a Wikiproject.           Ned1a Wanna talk?  14:45, 14 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete: There are many ways to bring attention to articles needing different kinds of improvement. This seems entirely redundant. -- D'n'B-t -- 14:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. Serves no valid purpose. Maproom (talk) 14:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Currently, it serves no "valid purpose" as it was created JUST today. Snipertron12   Talk  16:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. You know theres a Articles for improvement right?           Ned1a Wanna talk?  15:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Again, the diffrence from AFI is that it focuses on newer pages and not older ones. Snipertron12   Talk  16:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Creating Piccadilly to bring attention to the only article you contributed to (Kasane Teto) is self-serving. David notMD (talk) 16:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Im not aiming for self-serving, Im opening up other oppourtunities, however, i am yet to nominate them as there are no communnity members. Snipertron12   Talk  19:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * As i said multiple times, Piccadilly wasnt made to promote the Teto article, it was made as a faster way to bring attention to new stub articles. Snipertron12   Talk  19:32, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Snipertron12 Seriously? We have destubathons for a reason. This is clearly self serving, you literally write the word “I” in places like “I made this because I didn’t get the help I wanted” Like Just ask the associated wikiproject to destub it. xq 23:18, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete - underbaked project with no clear purpose as evidenced by the creator stating above -- Whpq (talk) 14:59, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I think this is the crux of it, if even the creator can't say what it's for - it's not for anything. -- D'n'B-t -- 20:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, pointless project with vague justifications given for its existence. Ratnahastin  (talk)
 * Delete. Why does this exist? Idk. xq 23:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Pointless - there are already so many places to ask for help like the Teahouse, WikiProjects, AFI, etc. This project has no clear purpose either, and is likely to either become inactive or another burdensome backlog to add to the already enormous backlog of NPP and AfC. Air on White (talk) 23:24, 17 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per above Babysharkboss2 was here!!  Dr. Wu is NOT a Doctor! 16:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:SNOW. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:1D2B:6C3:28B8:894C (talk) 16:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Check Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Piccadilly;?)           Ned1a Wanna talk?   15:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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Please read Piccadilly. - Snipertron12   Talk  18:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


 * So my understanding of WPPicadilly is that it's meant to bring attention to brand-new, especially small articles for the purpose of.... Jumpstarting their growth?
 * My understanding of Wikipedia is that articles are not meant to grow progressively in perpetuity, but only until all the information about their topic has been covered. So articles where there isn't much to say about the topic are classified as "stubs" because that is the maximum amount of information that is available, verifiable, notable, etc.
 * Also, if someone has taken it upon themselves to create an article (and "raise" it until it's a full article, so to speak), then why couldn't they just ask for advice on Teahouse or have it listed in other areas of Wikipedia for improvement? It seems like there's already systems in place for people to help jumpstart growth in their article. Teahouse gets plenty of exposure, so if people are generally unable or unwilling to help, it is likely due to a lack of knowledge or of interest, neither of which is solvable through the mechanisms of Wikipedia. The only real way to get around this is by reaching out to individuals you already know are interested, whether they're on wikipedia or not. If it's for general formatting, etc. then posing it as specific questions is more likely to get people interested in helping as opposed to asking for "general feedback/help". Specific questions generally win out over general questions in most situations.
 * So while this could be useful for a very small number of people just getting started on articles about very in-depth topics with a lot of information to cover, but which not many people are interested in (which likely doesn't happen very often I believe), and I think it's commendable to try and help out people in any context, it seems that WPPicadilly is ultimately useless.
 * WPPicadilly also seems like a user trying to take things into their own hands because they felt slighted. While an understandable feeling, actions taken for this reason are usually not productive.
 * To be quite honest, this entire situation just reminds me of this meme. Iloveschiaparelli (talk) 04:32, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Lol this is like Articles_for_deletion/Department_of_Fun but the opposite.           Ned1a Wanna talk?  15:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

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i've litreally put the founding article back as it gained intrest by non-piccadillians. At this point too I'm slowly losing hope for this project. No one actually gave this project a shot and decided to clown on me just because i had to clean alot of things up. I dont mean any harm. im sorry. Snipertron12  Talk  05:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Piccadilly has shut down. are you happy now? - Snipertron12   Talk  05:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ping @User:CanonNi @User:Nedia020415 @User:DandelionAndBurdock @User:Maproom @User:David_notMD @User:48JCL @User:Whpq @User:Ratnahastin @User:Air on White — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snipertron12 (talk • contribs) 05:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure why you pinged everyone, but could the page be tagged with g7, now that it's "shut down"?   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 06:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * An alternative is to move this to your userspace and then G7 the redirect left in wikispace. Air on White (talk) 06:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Im not gonna remove the page due to it now being a notice page. Snipertron12   Talk  07:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I’ll just tag it for g6 then. 48JCL 13:31, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I tagged it.           Ned1a Wanna talk?   15:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Snow delete: Redundant article. This is not being kept.  C F A   💬  13:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Tagged it for g6.           Ned1a Wanna talk?   15:36, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Might as well delete that---> File:Wikipedia Piccadilly.png           Ned1a Wanna talk?  15:57, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Established contributors are allowed to keep limited personal images without violating NOTWEBHOST. Air on White (talk) 05:19, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.