Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiAfrica/Stubs/Spier Contemporary

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  Delete. User:Islahaddow endorsed deletion and is the only significant contributor, so this is borderline WP:G7. RL0919 (talk) 23:08, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiAfrica/Stubs/Spier Contemporary


Old draft from April 2013. It seems to be the subject at Africa_Centre in mainspace which only indicates that it was done in 2008 and 2010 which makes its notability as a separate project questionable. Ricky81682 (talk) 01:58, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Africa_Centre. The coverage in mainspace proves that the drafting was a good idea.  Notability on the lines of whether the topic should be a standalone article or part of another article is not even a deletion reason in mainspace, let alone outside mainspace.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 14:15, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect per 's reasoning. -- MorbidEntree - (Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥) (please reply using &#x7B;&#x7B;ping&#x7D;&#x7D;) 12:57, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep This project is notable in its own right - separate from the Africa Centre. Each iteration was an exhibition and showcase of over a hundred contemporary artworks from across that South African art world (from experienced artists to lesser known, newbie artists). Although it took over the banner from the more controversial Kebbel Art Awards, since its last iteration, there has not been such a platform for South African contemporary art and there should be. It was a snapshot of South African society during the years prior to and during the world cup.
 * The article does need a lot of work, which is why it is still in the incubator (although it has been in there far too long). I will work on it. Isla Haddow (talk) 14:34, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * This draft has nothing here. Why not just start with a new draft at Draft:Spier Contemporary rather than keeping this skeleton page hidden away here? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:20, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Although a few others may disagree, I think that is bad advice, bad advice to start drafting when there is coverage in mainspace at Africa_Centre. The editor should be advised to improve the content at Africa_Centre, live in mainspace. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:49, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay - go ahead and delete it. I will expand this section on Africa_Centre instead. Isla Haddow (talk) 08:16, 11 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - Consists of nothing more than a hatnote and section headings. I'd agree that leaving a redirect for the creator if they were to return would be reasonable if this were in the userspace, but not where it is at. More leeway is given in the userspace than in the Wikipedia namespace. There is content at Africa_Centre, while there is none at the page up for discussion here, making incubation (i.e. WikiAfrica/Incubator / WikiAfrica/Incubator/Stubs list) unnecessary for this topic. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 09:38, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Unless I've overlooked something, this draft wasn't used in writing the mainspace article, so redirecting the draft is actually quite misleading. There should always be a good reason for establishing a WP:CNR, and I certainly don't see one here. --BDD (talk) 15:11, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.