Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Piracy

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was No consenus to delete, additional considerations should be discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting. — xaosflux  Talk 16:29, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Deletion sorting/Piracy


This delsort list was created seven years ago. In all that time it has had only a dozen discussions listed. It is unclear whether this is intended to list pirates, as in guys in boats who board other boats and steal their stuff, or "internet piracy" and in fact there are examples of both. This simply is not providing a valuable service to the community. If not deleted outright I believe it should be considered deprecated. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:46, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Would this be useful in your deletion sorting efforts? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 14:52, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * As I see it, piracy (both sea piracy and IP piracy) are adequately covered by WikiProject Deletion sorting/Crime. I have no objection to marking the Piracy sort as historical. That said, I would love to see the original creator's input, but he/she has not edited in the past year. • Gene93k (talk) 17:24, 23 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment How exactly does this page work? It seems to call a template, but I'm not sure how the template knows what to list. Also, I just notified WikiProject Piracy, a project described as semi-active. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 14:52, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * All of the Deletion sorting pages work the same way - the deletion discussion is transcluded onto the page and a note of that fact added to the deletion discussion itself. This is done manually.  Then a bot removes it from the page after the discussion is closed.  See the "Adding a new AfD discussion" section the page for the more detailed instructions.  It isn't necessarily tied to a particular WikiProject, though projects may monitor relevant deletion sorting pages.– Philosopher Let us reason together. 17:11, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Awaiting the expert's opinion. It should either be deleted or advertised somewhere, but I don't know which would be better. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 17:11, 23 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak keep, though with the understanding that I'm one of the only active members of WP:PIRACY. We deal with (or would; as pointed out, this isn't used all that often) the issue of swashbuckling piracy vs. internet piracy in the same way as we do at the project generally - internet piracy is a modern crime and is dealt with on that basis (with reference to BLPCRIME and various other provisions). "Piracy" around here is generally assumed to mean Black Beard, Long John Silver and Jack Sparrow stuff. There's not a lot of question about notability when it comes to 17th and 18th century piracy - the "known" stuff is in historical texts and books so if we know about it, it's almost guaranteed to be notable. Not a lot of stuff gets nominated for deletion. I supposed I'd have no great objection to it being deleted on the basis that it's just not that useful to the wider community and I can't fault its nomination here. It's useful to me but probably not many more people than that.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 21:16, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Correction - the article alerts (which depend on talk pages being tagged with the project banner) are on my Watchlist - this particular sorting page wasn't previously.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 01:16, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Suggestion How about transcluding this to Wikiproject Crime and Wikiproject Ships? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 23:56, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Not a bad suggestion but piracy isn't limited to those two things. In fact, recent efforts have been focused on non-maritime raids by pirates because most of the notable maritime raids and battles already have articles. It's obviously the newer articles that are more likely to end up at AFD.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 01:16, 24 October 2014 (UTC)


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