Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Faroe Islands/Article alerts

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  keep. The WikiProject was undeleted during this discussion, thus making the rationale for deletion not apply anymore. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:23, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Faroe Islands/Article alerts

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I don't know if CSD G8 is applicable here. Ｑ₂₈ (talk) 23:40, 6 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Deleting this without updating WP:AALERTS/SUBLIST will just lead to it being recreated. So update that first if the Alerts are no longer needed.
 * Also since WikiProject Faroe Islands was deleted, it's likely all subpages should be deleted, not just this one. However, I note that WikiProject Faroe Islands is still around, and so all things that are based on it will still work. Including these Alerts. So I'm not sure deletion is needed. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:44, 6 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep for now as per Headbomb as Wrong Venue. This report is being produced based on the task list used by a bot.  Do not bring requests involving pages produced by bots to MFD without first discussing with the bot maintainer.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:29, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Question - Do we need a list of issues not to bring to MFD, such as stupid drafts*, and pages produced by bots? (*With certain exceptions such as BLP violations and fantasy web sites) Robert McClenon (talk) 03:29, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You could be less WP:BITEy here, both with this comment and the one above. The only thing this requires, bot-wise, is a trivial update to a subscription page that anyone can do. The question of having the alerts or not would normally be discussion on the Project's talk page, but that project has been deleted. MFD is a perfectly fine venue to have a discussion on whether or not these alerts are still needed, but this should likely be done in the context of the other subpages of WikiProject Faroe Islands. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:45, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Headbomb - I respectfully submit that Bite does not apply. That is a guideline not to bite the newcomers.  Most editor who submit nominations to MFD are not newcomers, and an editor who has found a useless bot-generated report is likely to have at least a few months experience.  This is not the first editor who came to MFD to request deletion of a useless bot-generated report.  I didn't say that the nominator should not have brought the useless report here.  I asked whether we should advise editors that MFD is not the way to discuss useless bot-generated reports.  Now, you are saying that maybe MFD is the venue to discuss useless bot-generated reports.  Maybe it is.  Robert McClenon (talk) 05:25, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:AGF in general then. And you literally wrote "Do not bring requests involving pages produced by bots to MFD without first discussing with the bot maintainer." And as one of the bot's operator, there is no need to discuss this with us first. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Can't the page be salted to stop the bot from recreating the page? — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 15:00, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I suppose that's an option, but that's really not needed. You can just update WP:AALERTS/SUBLIST. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:19, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Salting a title to prevent a bot from recreating it is a very indirect way to stop recreation, and may have disadvantages. In particular, it may cause the bot to stop.  If the bot is only creating the unwanted pages, no harm is done, but there would have been other ways to do that.  However, if the bot has other tasks also, it might interrupt them also, and so would not be a good idea.  Robert McClenon (talk) 04:52, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I think we already have a nice explanation about drafts & MfD at Drafts. Maybe it needs a bit more exposure? Maybe a link from Deletion_policy? - Nabla (talk) 21:57, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Nabla - This nomination isn't of a draft. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:09, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Haven't you asked about drafts? Quote: "Do we need a list of issues not to bring to MFD, such as stupid drafts* [...]". I replied. Or did I get mixed up with something? Nabla (talk) 02:03, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Nabla - Yes, I did ask that. It doesn't have to do with this MFD, but with other MFDs.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:34, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Faroe Islands/Article alerts/Archive is also underway. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:21, 7 July 2022 (UTC)


 * keep - First, it is not a wp:G8 because it's parent exists. Second, I presume these alerts are useful (I keep am eye on a couple of them) even if the Faroe Islands probably does not have a huge following. - Nabla (talk) 21:38, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep: The question should have been asked on its talk page. If no one answers, find advice at Publicising discussions. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:56, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.