Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Microsoft (2nd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  No consensus. Closing this as no consensus with no prejudice to further discussion taking place to decide what to do here. In passing, any new discussion should probably start from the guidelines provided at the MfD page for WikiProject pages: "'It is generally preferable that inactive WikiProjects not be deleted, but instead be marked as inactive, redirected to a relevant WikiProject, or changed to a task force of a parent WikiProject, unless the WikiProject was incompletely created or is entirely undesirable.'" It should be noted that the options listed there don't need a new MfD but can be done by any editor. Carcharoth (talk) 22:38, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Microsoft


Project started in 2010 and it has only six members. Also note that project has previous nomination back in 2006 and it was deleted. No minimal discussions and no activity since the project had been almost inactive. JJ98 (Talk)  20:27, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes - as the coordinator of this WikiProject I would agree, we have very little participants. I'm not too active myself. Because of RL. -  Dwayne   was here!   &#9835;  18:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per project coordinator. -- Klein zach  00:47, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, IF: we think we could get more people to participate in the project. Otherwise, Delete.  AndrewN  talk 04:52, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Due to minimal activity AND due to it looking a bit like promotion of a commercial interest. The "Please join our live chatroom!" taking people off-site is worrying.  Redirect the title to WikiProject Microsoft Windows, which is an active project without external links.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:55, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete I am a bit fuzzy on the intended granularity of "Projects", but it make more sense to be a "task force" of the WikiProject Computing? Or just use the existing projects and task forces. For example, software in the software task force etc. A quick looks shows many pages are games, or other topics, so not sure the "Windows" project would cover them all. The template does seem to be used a bunch. W Nowicki (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge/move and restructure as a taskforce of WikiProject Computing. It would not be helpful at all to delete all the work others appear to have put into building this wikiproject and tagging associated articles. It would have probably been better if this had simply been brought up at WP:COMP. --Tothwolf (talk) 22:38, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would favor that, although not sure of the mechanism. Would we, say, modify the WikiProject Microsoft template to just instantiate the WikiProject Computing template with the new taskforce |microsoft=yes? The history would then contain the old template in case anyone wants to revive it. Redirecting to Project Windows does not make sense, since the project includes topics on other parts of Microsoft (that is, Windows should be a subset of Microsoft, not vice versa). For that matter the Computing project is not terribly active it seems either, but more likely to contain a critical mass because it covers a broader area. W Nowicki (talk) 23:33, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * We won't need to add a new parameter to WikiProject Computing. We've actually been trying to phase out many of the other parameters for some time in favour of individual templates since editors appear to be more likely to properly tag articles when separate templates are available vs the numerous confusing parameters we currently have for WikiProject Computing. Overall, not too many changes will need to be made, the main change will be moving project pages into their new locations. On the surface, WikiProject Computing doesn't look that active, but that is because the talk page isn't used that much. There are many editors who are active in the subject area though. --Tothwolf (talk) 01:22, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Make a task force' WikiProject Computing/Microsoft - lots here.Moxy (talk) 23:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to WikiProject Computing And perhaps do a bit of moving around with the talkpages so everyone who had Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Microsoft watchlisted will now have Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing watchlisted. Modify the WikiProject Microsoft template to use WikiProject Computing. —Ruud 11:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd agree with Redirect to WikiProject Computing as a solution. -- Klein zach  08:46, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment If WP:MICROSOFT is destined to technically become a task force, note that WP:PROJDIR/S states for some projects: This group operates as both a task force and a separate WikiProject group. Last time I tried to look this up, the guidelines seemed to lack some clarity in this area (although I accept that I could have missed something obvious). --Trevj (talk) 13:00, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.