Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Narnia/Sandbox/Minor characters in The Chronicles of Narnia

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: redirect to List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters. Also, Keep as useful to WikiProject Narnia. Tagged with appropriate Rcats. (non-admin closure) &#8213; Matthew J. Long -Talk-☖  18:01, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Narnia/Sandbox/Minor characters in The Chronicles of Narnia


G2 applies here, but just making the extra effort so taking this here. This is a test page/draft for a list of characters article, which was placed as a sub-page of the WikiProject. This is barely edited. If kept, should be sent to draft namespace so it can eventually be renominated after 6 months and deleted. Gonnym (talk) 23:01, 10 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - It does not meet G2 because it was not "created to test editing or other Wikipedia functions." There is no prohibition against wikiprojects hosting drafts, so sending it to draftspace with the goal of backdoor deletion is inappropriate. No opposition to redirecting this page to List of The Chronicles of Narnia characters. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 09:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * How is a sub page of a WikiProject the appropriate place to host a draft version of an article which has nothing to do with the WikiProject? This isn't backdoor deletion, it's the exact process of WP:DRAFTS. If it gets worked on and later published - great, if it doesn't then like any other draft, it can be nominated for deletion. --Gonnym (talk) 10:16, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * How is the topic "Minor characters in The Chronicles of Narnia" unrelated to Wikipedia:WikiProject Narnia? It is well within the scope of the project. If it is moved to the draftspace and goes unedited for six months, then it will be speedily deleted as opposed to renominated here. Draftspace is for swill produced by the uninformed; WP:DUD. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 10:23, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * See WP:OWN. It isn't a sandbox for the page WikiProject Narnia, it's a regular article. I'm also sorry you think of draftspace as such, but that's your right, even if it has no consensus whatsoever and linking to a poorly written essay does not change that. --Gonnym (talk) 10:35, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * See WP:UD (though this is not in the userspace, many drafts are not subject to G13). No opposition to moving this to WikiProject Narnia/Minor characters in The Chronicles of Narnia. There is no consensus for your requested action. Any editor who is aware of how drafts in the draftspace are blindly deleted after an arbitrary period of time regardless of their quality knows that there are better places to house them (e.g. the userspace or a subpage of a WikiProject). That aside, if you disagree with the ideas expressed in WP:DUD, that is fine; commenting on perceived flaws in its composition is not the most civil way to go. In fairness, I suppose I could have toned down my own rhetoric as well (e.g. "swill"). —  Godsy (TALK CONT ) 10:57, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * A project sandbox isn't a userspace, as you've mentioned. This can be moved to draft for a collaborative work as was intended, or the userspace of the creator if it is that important to you. I don't see how saying the essay is badly written is being not civil. The whole essay reads like a "how to game the system" - to me, that is something which is badly written. Nothing personal to whomever wrote it. --Gonnym (talk) 11:43, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep it looks like a holding pen for possible articles or portions of articles related to the project. I have not researched how these charactors are treated currently so I don't know if it is redundent but it is a legitimate use of project space. The idea of moving it to draft could be followed boodly or discussed at the project talkpage. Legacypac (talk) 16:27, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - It's a draft, and probably useful. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:15, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.