Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject North America/The North America Destubathon

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: keep and archive. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:01, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject North America/The North America Destubathon


Page does not currently serve a purpose; see talk page discussion -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:04, 21 February 2018 (UTC) What a mess?? It was and still is a planned contest. I thought it was a good idea to try to improve a few thousand US and Canadian articles in one contest. Don't you want that?♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:20, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete what a mess. Legacypac (talk) 17:36, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Then recreate when editors are interested in starting a campaign. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:26, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Or, perhaps convert the page to a user subpage, since you wish to save the content? I just don't see the need to have this in the main space. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:11, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't mind moving it into my user space.♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:08, 22 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. It was claimed to be a North American initiative but only started out as just Canada and US. Mexico was added as an afterthought while Caribbeans was totally forgotten. So I agree with the sentiment that it's a mess. OhanaUnitedTalk page 22:01, 22 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - the intent is good even if the parameters need some fine tuning. We don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Any competition that aims to destub stubs is good. Regarding scope, it is relatively straightforward to use List of sovereign states and dependent territories in North America as a guide (presuming it is correct, I don't know as it is not an area I am too familiar with.) Scope is easy to sort out without nuking it. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:46, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: If User:Dr. Blofeld is fine with converting this page into a user sub page, can an admin close this discussion and move the page? No need to have more editors spend time here, right? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:37, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Dr. Blofeld has retired from Wikipedia. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:57, 23 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Throw a banner up top marking the page as inactive and leave it alone until someone wants to move it forward, at which time they can remove the banner and modify the page however they want. The only problem with the page's existence is the possibility of people landing there and thinking it might be active now. Once you fix that, I see no benefit in deleting something that might eventually be useful, and can be modified as desired either tomorrow or in five years. I'm fairly confident Dr. Blofeld will unretire, so moving to his userspace wouldn't be a horrible outcome, but I just don't see the point, and it's far less useful if someone besides Dr. Blofeld wants to organize it. Just find/create an appropriate "currently inactive" banner and leave it alone. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:34, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, per Floquenbeam, and mark inactive. Why are we discussing this, for Chrissake? What harm is this page doing besides being inactive and appearing active? Vanamonde (talk) 18:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment/Question: For the record, here is the version of the page nominated for deletion (not the current version, which was updated by Dr. Blofeld). If this discussion results in a keep vote, does that mean we can't move the page to User:Dr. Blofeld/The North America Destubathon, even though they said we could? -- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 23:08, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * My thinking is that if something is coming up from scratch, then userfying it until it is at a form approaching being ready to go is good. Right now, my take on this is whether there is a choice between making it all north america or splitting into subsections. There have been Asia and Africa ones...though it would be a stretch to see the US as underrepresented if the main point is addressing systemic bias. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:42, 23 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Archive if needing archiving.  No reason to delete.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:46, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - On what basis was that supposed to be deleteable? Agathoclea (talk) 22:04, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. I apologize for my rude keep earlier. Eddie891 Talk Work 00:16, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - Christ talk about wasting time has no one in the Delete camp heard of "the inactive template"? .... God help us all. – Davey 2010 Talk 02:05, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * There seems to be consensus to preserve the page history. I am fine withdrawing this nomination, and I've added the archive template to the top of the page. I'd prefer to see this page moved to a user sub page, but I don't feel too strongly. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:22, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.