Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiWar

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Delete. -- Cirt (talk) 18:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

WikiWar and Template:User WikiWar
Apparently this is humorous, but I don't quite get the joke. In fact I could see warnings like this being misused and misunderstood badly. Same for Template:User_WikiWar.
 * Apologies for late related additions (see below): Template:WikiWar, template:WikiFrown and WikiWar/members. –Moondyne 00:59, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete –Moondyne 03:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC) –Moondyne 03:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete both. I agree with Moondyne, this is probably well intentioned but it isn't funny and I can see unnecessary friction and drama arising from it. Lovetinkle (talk) 03:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom, unfunny dramaz bait. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 12:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: Essays Need not represent the views of everyone. If people really have a problem with it, you can ask one of the main contributers (perhaps User:Jdrrmk) to move it into userspace.  Buddy431 (talk) 21:38, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom. -- Klein zach  01:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep with a possible merger into Userspace or an area that is not accessible by search engines to offset your fears of people misunderstanding the essay. First of all, as Buddy431 pointed out above, essays need not represent the views of everyone. Secondly, the essay itself is marked as being kept for humorous reasons, and tries its best to avoid people misunderstanding it as a reason to start edit wars or the like. Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, humor is subjective and therefor not really a good test for an essay. Personally, I found it rather funny if somewhat dry. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:17, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you explain how does this "essay" improves the encyclopaedia one iota? I'm not opposed to humour but this essay has the potential to confuse or cause damage and therefore has no place here.  –Moondyne 00:28, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If all you need is one iota, giving an editor a smile so that s/he is happy (and therefore produces better edits and stays with the project longer, in theory) is already a benefit. Is there a far reaching effect from this essay, either for the better or worse? No, probably not (but then again, essays with far-reaching effects are few and far between). Yes, there is a potential for confusion, but as long as the one who receives the "war shot" actually reads the essay, they shouldn't be offended. Besides, from what I read on the list of participants it is meant to only be used with other people who signed up. Once again, I suggest putting it on the creator's user page if you are worried about people getting confused. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:36, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I fail to see how it is any less likely to be misunderstood if stored in user space. –Moondyne 04:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It makes it more obvious that it isn't Wikipedia policy, and if I am not mistaken Userpages aren't searchable. Point is moot though, since after checking what links to said items, I've decided weak delete on the template, member list, and userbox with a keep with changes on the essay. The template, member list, and userbox are pretty much orphans, with very little usage. Hence, my delete vote is because they are unfunny or dangerous (which I still disagree with), but because almost nobody uses them. If more people used them, I'd still be a keep. As for the essay, it should have minor changes, such as an "In a nutshell" box that says something like "Not all Wikipedia users believe repeated vandalism should be treated proactively. To humorously combat vandalism, said Wikipedians may declare a playful "WikiWar" against suspected vandals. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:17, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * That's two badly worded rhetorical questions from me. Serves me right. ;) –Moondyne 05:57, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Quite alright :-). I've noticed I'm more of a inclusionist, which is why I support the essay (with modification). But I have to admit, the others are a waste of storage and bandwidth. Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:35, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong delete for Wikifrown. The phrasing is much terser and more provocative than the essay. Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:23, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: The nominator forgot WikiWar. --Dylan620 (t • c • r) 23:10, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I did, and thanks. That should obviously be included in the nomination also.  –Moondyne 00:23, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * WikiWar/members also should be included. Cunard (talk) 00:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete all Regardless of whether WikiWar is marked as humorous, it is potentially damaging to new users and others who may misconstrue it to mean "making Wikipedia a more warlike place for everyone" is standard and acceptable behavior. The benefits of a good laugh are far outweighed by the harm of causing unneeded drama and conflict. Placing Template:WikiFrown (" ~  has frowned at you! Frowns promote WikiWar and hopefully you will take this as a WikiWarning") on the talk page of an editor with whom one has come into conflict would come across as aggressive and provoking, inevitably leading to an ANI or WQA report. Cunard (talk) 00:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per Moondyne Someone65 (talk) 15:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete all, including the subpages, then redirect to WikiPeace. I don't consider this useful to the project in any way. -- &oelig; &trade; 02:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: please see this related discussion. Cheers, Airplaneman   ✈  05:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per all above, especially nom. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 (Contact) 16:40, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


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