Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 13

Wikipedia. It speeds up. Exciting to touch. Happy is the day when backache goes away.

 * Motto found on a shirt, modified a little. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support Talks about Wikipedia's growth into a featured article. I like it. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 02:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose-- LAA Fan sign review 21:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - I guess I like the sentiment and the links, but the quote is really kind of wierd. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:45, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support: As Nutiketaiel said, the idea is OK but the motto is weird. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:02, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose I've never heard it, and it seems extremely weird. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  20:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - would be quite confusing to the MOTD readers. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 18:40, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose - left me with a squinted look on my face.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:41, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Very, very queer. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 02:14, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

 iMa tth ew   (talk) 11:22, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Veni, vidi, vici
Translates to I came, I saw, and I conquered    Juthani1    tcs 23:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Comment: See Motto_of_the_day/Nominations/Frequently_used_ideas. Secondly, when it says place this at the top of the section, do not place it at the bottom. Simply south (talk) 00:16, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - Find something more original. I have also taken the liberty of removing the other two repititions of this same motto, as they are exactly the same; I assume they were added by accident.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:07, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - Per comment by Simply south.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose per all above. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 02:19, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

per consensus.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 11:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Which side are you on? The editors or the vandals?
I made it shorter--Spittlespat (talk) 23:10, 20 September 2008 (UTC) Moved appropriately. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 00:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - It presents the vandals as a legitimate side, it links to pages that don't reflect the Wikipedia meaning of the terms, and it probably shouldn't be up here in the special nomination section. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support - I guess it's all right, but it seems just a repetition of the famous black-and-white image (I'm sure everyone's seen it?) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 00:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What image are you referring to? Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This one: [[Image:Banner whose side are you on.png|50px]] (click for larger view). &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 19:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh. Never seen that image before.  I still don't like the quote, though.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Per WP:SNOW.-- LAA Fan sign review 21:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose People don't have a choice. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  14:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Agree with Nutiketaiel. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Man made the edits; edits never made the man.
I heard this (except with "money" instead of "edits) in an LL Cool J song. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 15:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Cool. I like it. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  13:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 16:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Nice links! I change my vote to Strong Support on account that this motto really deserves it! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support As per all above, though I have a minor disease of Editcountitis. :( --  SRE.K.A nnoyomous .L. 24 [c] 18:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Thankfully, I got over my editcountitis in my n[][]b days... ;) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 23:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Very clever. :) –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  18:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I really like this one. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

If you love what you do, you will never work a day in your life.
A little quote I came up with about loving what you do on Wikipedia. I believe someone famous said this line, but I can't put my finger on it. If anyone knows who he/she, tell me and I'll arrow-link the person. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - I like the quote, but not the last link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

If you love what you do, you will never work another day in your life.
Another version. Slightly adjusted by re-wording "a" to "another". Kudos to Artichoke-Boy. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support I like this one, but I'm unsure of the last link &#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 08:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 *  Weak Support  - I guess this is a slight improvement over the first, but I still don't like the last link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support: Good one, but the last link needs to be improved. How can Wikipedia be 'life'? La   Al qu im  is ta  03:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Erased link to your life. Hope it clears thing up. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Better like this. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC) ✅ Edit 1-- LAA Fan sign review 16:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

→ We are family… I got all my sisters with me
A motto that's centered around Wikipedia Sister projects. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support Sure. Why not? --  K. Annoyomous 24 [c] 00:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Not bad. It's always nice to bring attention to the other projects.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:WTHN. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  16:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Nice, fresh idea. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:07, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support if first link is changed to Wikimedia. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 16:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

→ We are family…I got all my sisters with me
Edit 1. Link change suggested by La Pianista. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC) ✅ Original motto.-- LAA Fan sign review 16:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

→ More Ovaltine, please!
I was drinking Ovaltine. Also the slogan for Ovaltine. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 02:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Not much of a reference to Wikipedia, despite the link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose Somewhat irrelevant. We don't necessarily want more edits, just good-quality ones. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  17:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Linked more toWP:BOLD. I don't know if this will work, but I hope it will. --  K. Annoyomous 24 [c] 00:07, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Nah, still don't like it. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 16:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - A bit bland, and the links do not work well here. The motto could have some potential with Wikipediholic links, though. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 20:38, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

To be bold…or not to be bold?
This one's about the concept of boldness in Wikipedia. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 17:23, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Good enough for me. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  02:33, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Absolutely hilarious, and the second link makes a very good point. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Fresh, funny. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 02:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: Clever links. Never thought it would be something like this at first glance. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose per FUI. Trvsdrlng (talk) 15:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Even if the original concept is overused, this is an amusing twist on the cliché. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 19:48, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that was actually my intention...to take a frequently used idea and put my own twist to it! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:02, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ Per WP:SNOW-- LAA Fan sign review 16:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipediholism...face it, it's better than alcoholism!
Kinda cheesy...but yeah... ~ Her Holy Jamoley Highness   Rebel Queen Pokeynut  09:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC) Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 01:46, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose No links, and yeah, kinda cheesy. Also, please place new noms on the top of the page, rather than at the bottom. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 23:35, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Corny. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Corny and cheesy, indeed. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  14:39, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

((see template below))
Based on some of the templates at Template messages/Talk namespace. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 18:45, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose for now. I don't think everyone would like to see a template placed on their userpage requesting them to add mottos, particularly since we are just another Wikiproject. People will decide whether they want mottos on their pages or not. It's just like ads, isn't it; some people like it some people don't. I might change my vote if someone can convince me though. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  04:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit 1
Per Chamal's concern, here is a non-motto-based alternative. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 13:28, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Jealous support because I was planning on doing a template motto sometime soon. Darn it! Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 05:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support: Yeah, that's good. But will this work for all the MOTD templates? I mean, will it appear ok? C h a m a l    Talk   ±  11:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose Clever, though I don't know if everybody wants this template on their talk page/userpage/wherever they have Motd. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  17:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: We have done template mottos previously, and as long as they aren't too obtrusive, they generally go along ok. As for the display concerns, this should work just fine in the standard templates (motd, motd bold, motd plain, motd big) but may have an extra-thick border in motd cquote (102 transclusions) and (9 transclusions), and it probably will make  (121 transclusions) explode. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 22:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - I can't say I really like the idea of a template motto, but it IS a refreshing change of pace... Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support. Very original, and I like how it's raising awareness about Wikipedia contributions! I had a motto idea very similar to this one, too. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ edit 1 per consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Wanted: Dead or Alive
A reference to ideas that are most wanted to become articles on Wikipedia. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - It is clever, but I don't think we should be encouraging the creation of stubs instead of proper articles. Though, I suppose a stub IS better than nothing...  Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's really the whole point of the motto. It's better a stub than NOTHING, because at least we would HAVE an article. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 16:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Weak Support I just don't like referring to Stubs as 'dead'! <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 12:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
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 - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 13:40, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Out with the old, In with the new
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 * Weak Support - Not bad, but I'm not sure that "recent additions" should be labeled as the "old." Nutiketaiel (talk) 16:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support; it is a good motto, but other links may be more fitting. How about Help:Archiving a talk page and the recent changes for talk pages? --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 19:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support;I think this is a bit too plain jane. -- ♥Soccer5525♥  Talk To Me! 20:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support Needs new links. Jor  dan  <sup style="color:blue;">Contribs  12:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
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 - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Out with the old, in with the new
How about this? Simply south (talk) 20:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC) <hr style="width:50%;"/>
 * Weak support not bad, trying to think of some good links... spider1224 21:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What about changing the link for "Out with the old" to Category:Banned Wikipedia users.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 01:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support A bit better. Jor  dan  <sup style="color:blue;">Contribs  12:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - I don't know, I'm still kind of ambivilent (did I spell that right?) about the first link. Second link is good, though.  I guess I'm not sure that "out with the old" is the proper sentiment for Wikipedia.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Another link suggestion: Help:Page history and Special:Recentchanges --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 00:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
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- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

2 Out with the old, In with the new
Possibly better (withouth the 2). Simply south (talk) 22:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - I don't know, and maybe its just me, but I still don't feel all that great about "out with the old" as a motto for Wikipedia. It doesn't sit well.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Expect the unexpected.
The motto for Big Brother. -- K. Annoyomous  24  GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 00:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC) <hr style="width:50%;"/>
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 * Has this been done before? It is such a famous saying that it probably has. Otherwise, congratulations on being the first to come up with it. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 20:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Nothing wrong with it. Just seems like a weak quote.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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 * Support Creative... spider1224 20:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

It is not what Wikipedia can do for you; it is what you can do for Wikipedia.
The origin from this motto was, as you probably guessed, John Kennedy inagural speech. I hope this hasn't been used before; although it probably has been.  K im  u  04:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to make it historically accurate, shouldn't it be "Ask not what Wikipedia can do for you, but what you can do for Wikipedia" ? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 23:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 17:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

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 * Weak Support It's OK, I guess, if we have a slow news day, provided it is re-written for historical accuracy as described above. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:07, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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→ You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
It was a quote from the movie The Dark Knight and was quoted by Harvey Dent. -- K. Annoyomous  24  GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 05:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Change spelling of "villian" to "villain". A bit fatalistic.  Thinking about whether or not I like it -- why not live and remain a hero? ArglebargleIV (talk) 02:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed the villain problem. At first, I thought it was clever but now, I really don't know what it means. I hope someone would figure it out. -- K. Annoyomous  24  GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 02:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It probably isn't much better, but I've got a mildly humorous edit 1 below. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 15:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

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- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

→ You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
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 * Comment I think its refreshing that vandals are not the villain again. So for that alone I think I prefer this version, but i support both.--88wolfmaster (talk) 21:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * Support I rather like this version. The new villains link is much more humerous than the last one, and it does not depressingly suggest an inexorable slide into vandalism.  Would be nice if the sentence ended in a period, though.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

We don't need no fool's control.
Origin from the song The Wall by Pink Floyd. LAA Fan  22:15, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose I'm not sure I understand the reference; what is "fool's control" in the original context of the song? Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The original lyrics are "We don't need no education, we don't need no fools control". The fools being teachers. Loosely meaning that we don't require a forced education or a higher authority. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xytram (talk • contribs) 12:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Well, that makes a little more sense, I guess. Change my standing to Weak Support.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:15, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Weak support - Good song, good motto, weak links. I think instead of linking to Don't feed the trolls either WP:BURO or WP:IAR would be a better fit with the song's meaning plus the current links could be read to imply that we can be out of control and act like trolls if we want to, though I'm sure that's not the intention. Stardust8212 15:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
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- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Which side will you choose?
Saw the comment about needing nominations, so here I am. Sorry if it's already been done before. LAA Fan  22:11, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What if users choose the vandal side? It might encourage users to be vandals. Maybe something could be altered in the motto? -- RyRy  ( talk ) 03:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Weak oppose I am loathe to oppose this one because it is clever, and I like the double link, but I have to agree with RyRy. Perhaps if the other side was altered somehow... I think I could get behind it if you changed the Vandal link to a link to something like Criticism of Wikipedia.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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Edit 1 of "Which side will you choose?"
Edit 1. Changed the "si" link from WP:Vandal to Criticism of Wikipedia. I think it gets the point across better, is equally clever, and less likely to present Vandalism as a legitimate "side" (whereas Criticisms of Wikipedia, while unfounded, are a legitimate position). Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Support - That's right, I support me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Doesn't this make it look like we don't like criticism? It looks to me like "either you join us, or you get out of our way". I won't vote on this yet. Chamal    Talk 14:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's neutral on whether we "like" the criticism or not. However, there are definitely two sides to the debate; just because we recognize the sides doesn't mean we want the other side to "join us or get out of the way."  Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Commentwouldnt it be better if there were links to deletionism and inclusionism ? i dont quite see the "sides" otherwise Machete97 (talk) 22:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * weak oppose - I agree with Chamal's concerns. Stardust8212 15:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
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 * Support if it were linked to deletionism and inclusionism, per Machete97. Much fresher than Wikipedians vs. Vandals all the time... &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 00:34, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

The Answer to Anything and Everything!
This motto is saying that Wikipedia has the information to anything you can think of. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 15:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * Weak Oppose: per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, it doesn't nor will it, have the answer to anything and everything. Deamon138 (talk) 23:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support As an Inclusionist, I am fine with the idea of Wikipedia being the answer to everything. The only reason I am putting in "weak" support is because it seems like there could be a more clever way to say it... Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support As per the above comment by Nutiketaiel. I'm an Inclusionist too. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

The Answer to Anything and Everything?
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 * Edit 1 I have changed it to a question rather than a statement and relinked it to WP:BOLD and YFA. It could potentially have an answer to anything but only with bold edits. Sorry I'm probably grasping at straws here! <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 21:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Seems too... wishy washy. I liked the first version better.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
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- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Red: The Bad Color
This is a fictional philosophy in the 2004 film, The Village. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 16:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak support Kind of an obscure rederence. Still, it's clever.  I kind of like it.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose I'm sorry but red is my favourite colour. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I believe that's referring to red links, not saying that red itself is bad... <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 19:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Oppose I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with red links. Kolindigo (talk) 16:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How can there be nothing wrong with red links? I don't understand; that means that we're missing an article somewhere, or that somebody misspelled their link.  Either way, a red link is a problem to be fixed.  Red links are the enemy!  ;-)  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support: Let's kill the enemy then :) C h a m a l    Talk   ±  12:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * After further consideration, I think I like it a little bit more now. I change my stance to Strong Support.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:03, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

→ A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.
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 * Strong Oppose Wikipedia is not a democracy. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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 * Oppose. Agree with Nutiketaiel. Kolindigo (talk) 16:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

When in doubt, throw it out there
Reflects Wikipedia's open philosophy/be bold. Based on the recycling-related motto "When in doubt, throw it out." CapitalSasha ~ talk 05:36, 20 July 2008 (UTC) <hr style="width:50%;"/>
 * Comment: I'm not sure if people won't get the wrong impression by seeing "throw it out" and associating it with deleting articles, as opposed to being bold. —T-borg (T | C) 18:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Support, I like the sentiment, but please see edit 1 below. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  non-admin (t/a/c) 04:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
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To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

When in doubt, throw it out there
Edit 1 - When in doubt, throw it out to an open discussion to form a consensus (part of which involves being bold, but this is a bit more broad). After all, that's how things get done around here, right? <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  non-admin (t/a/c) 04:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC) <hr style="width:50%;"/>
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 * Weak Support - The edit by Hersfold is definitely better than the original, but I think it was kind of a weak quote in the first place. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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Step by step. Hand in hand.
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 * Comment: kinda unclear relation to Wikipedia. —T-borg (T | C) 18:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support, I get it. Wikipedia is a cooperative project. Progress gets made in steps (WP:BOLD), but things actually get done by working with others hand in hand (WP:CON). Maybe adding those links would help, but this is good as is, I think. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  non-admin (t/a/c) 04:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: See my comment below as well. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 19:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
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 * Support - Good quote, sends an excellent message. Links would be nice, but not strictly necessary.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support ...but it needs a couple of wlinks. (e.g. "Step by step. Hand in hand.") –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think it'd be better as "Hand in hand.". I don't get why the Main Page is linked. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 19:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Strong Support for the revisions recommended by Hersfold. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That's great, especially Hersfold's linked version. Strong Support. Malpass93 (talk) 15:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ Hersfold's linked version. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Good good edit, day day up.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 00:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose What? Gibberish--Jac16888 (talk) 01:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment— Hmm, appears to be some form of Chinglish, as shown in the arrow link. Seems kinda stereotypical. I'd say oppose. Mizu onna sango15 / 水 女 珊瑚15  02:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: "Good good study, day day up" is a quite famous Chinglish saying. It's the literal translation of the Chinese sentence for "Study hard and improve every day." --   Einstei  N  ewton  23:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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→ Good good edit, day day up.
Edit 1, suggestion. --  Einstei  N  ewton  17:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Support- That's more like it. :) -- Mizu onna sango15 / 水 女 珊瑚15  16:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * Oppose - Maybe it's just me, but it just doesn't seem to make sense. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Too obscure, imho. Kolindigo (talk) 23:39, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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Pay attention to your teacher and learn all you can
It just explains you should always listen to your adopter and keep learning from them. I'm just not sure where the link should lead to clarify "teacher". I'm also thinking in adding "teacher/coach" in if necessary to also mention admin coaching. Regards, RyRy5  ( talk  ♠  copy-edit ) 23:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - it sounds a bit harsh. Basketball110  My story/Tell me yours 02:43, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

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 * Support - I like the message, actually, and I think it would serve to promote the adoption program. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Support: I like it. Nothing wrong with it, and it's true. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

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I contain multitudes
I contradict myself? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 15:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC) ''Do I contradict myself?  Very well then I contradict myself, '' (I am large, I contain multitudes.) 
 * Oppose. What? -- Mizu onna sango15 / 水 女 珊瑚15  16:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 'Support It is from Song of Myslef by Walt Whitman

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 * Strong Oppose - Nonsensical. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, no, I take that back. Support if we add links.  Try this on for size-  I contain multitudes. or I contain multitudes.  I think one of those may be closer to what the author was trying to say.  What do you guys think?  Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I contain multitudes
Edit 1. I added the links, which I think explain the motto and get the point across more firmly. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself. I am large. I contain multitudes.
Edit 2 How about Kolindigo (talk) 23:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support I prefer this edit <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 14:45, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Comment - If this is accepted, I would suggest a comma after "well." &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 01:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply I agree that there should be a comma there. I left it out because there is no comma in the original source. Kolindigo (talk) 02:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I wikilove you. Don't you wikilove me?
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose Bland. (Besides, WikiLove is a noun, not a verb ;)) • 97198  talk  05:11, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral Sounds kinda awkward. Perhaps cut "wikilove" to just "love"? <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 18:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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I love you. Don't you love me?
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 * How about this? <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 09:57, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Better with the new link structure. I support as is, but I think it would be even better if the first link was maybe to WP:KC.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Not really a good "motto" for Wikipedia.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 20:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
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You catch more bees with honey than with vinegar
A motto about how to treat new users. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:22, 2 October 2008 (UTC) ✅ Per consensus-- LAA Fan sign review 00:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Very nicely done, I can't possibly think of anything to discredit this.  Blooded Edge   Sign/Talk 20:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Aside from the fact that it's not technically true (look it up!), I like it. Trvsdrlng (talk) 03:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks very good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:31, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Nice idea. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:40, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support I like it. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Very nice philosophy. I like. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 02:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

→Danger! Inhibition astraddle transgress.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 14:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

How does this related to Chinglish? and what does "Inhibition astraddle transgress" mean? -- K. Annoyomous  24  03:55, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I just don't get the reference. I guess it's one of those "all your base are belong to us" style mistranslations, but I've never heard of this one.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 00:43, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: I don't think this will be comprehensible to everyone. We shouldn't have anything like that as a motto . C h a m a l    Talk   ±  12:30, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia - smashing turtles, every day
An anonymous scientist once gave a lecture on the sum of human astronomical knowledge. The following dialogue then ensued: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist then quipped: "What is the tortoise standing on?" The lady replied: "You're very clever, young man, very clever, but it's turtles all the way down!" What that means, from my point of view, is that we'll never really understand what is going on in the universe, and that infinite regression will prevent us from ever attaining true knowledge. I think that what we are doing on Wikipedia is smashing those turtles, one by one, as we bring knowledge to the world, removing the barriers between mankind and the truth. I understand if people think it is too obscure, but I thought it was quite a philosophical approach that would give readers something to think about. &mdash; Anonymous Dissident  Talk 08:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 17:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 *  Weak support A very clever motto, indeed; it made me stop and think for a bit. The links aren't all that relevant to Wikipedia, though. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  18:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * We could change the "Wikipedia" link to go to "Wikipedia:About". &mdash; Anonymous Dissident  Talk 02:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support with the recomended change to the Wikipedia link. I've seen that dialogue before, and I love it.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Suport That's deep. I love it! - BlackCat (Speak!) 11:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Clever, but you get the full meaning after you read the explanation. Not sure how this will go when used as the motto though. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:10, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Experienced Leadership, Bold Solutions
Based on one of McCain's campaign slogans. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 18:45, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Support I'm not a big McCain fan, but it does make for a pretty good motto. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Good idea. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 22:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 17:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I'm not giving away whether I'm a democrat or a republican, but I do think this quote for Wikipedia has a nice message and is catchy. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

All's fair in love and war
Surprised this hasn't been used before. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 00:43, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support this version.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:27, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

All's fair in love and war
Edit 2 Other links. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 23:25, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - If it truly hasn't been used before. Not a big fan, though; too cliché.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:38, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, the other version has already been approved...with your own vote. :) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 19:13, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Boy, don't I feel like a dope. I guess that's why it seemed cliché; I HAVE heard it here before.  ;-)   Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:24, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose because first one is better.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:27, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

WAIT!

"Edit 1" has already been approved: &mdash; La Pianista  ( T • C • S ) 19:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

All's fair in love and war
Edit 1 Alternative links. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 00:43, 28 September 2008 (UTC) ✅ – Per consensus. – RyanCross  ( talk ) 01:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Okay. I like it. La   Al qu im  is ta  05:50, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: This version is better than the other two. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  11:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks pretty good with this set of links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:59, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Nice one. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  14:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Great links! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

There is no such thing as darkness; what seems so vast and overwhelming is nothing more than the absence of light.
Too long? I do not know who said this quote; I got it from http://collected-quotes.netfirms.com/Evil.html. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 21:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Clever. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support I like it! :)  spider1224  20:53, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support There's the ever-so-slight touch of being a hair too long, but the "light" it brings more than makes up for it. :) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 23:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: Nice idea. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  12:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I like it; it's upbeat, clever and deep (for a motto). Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:03, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Half-Hearted Support: It's a bit too long for my taste, but very clever nonetheless. ~ Her Holy Jamoley Highness Rebel Queen Pokeynut  11:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Nice message SpitfireTally-ho!18:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ – Per consensus. – RyanCross  ( talk ) 01:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Every hero has a choice
I got it from spiderman the moral is basically like every user has choice something like that!--Spittlespat (talk) 02:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose What choices are we talking about? I think "choice" could be linked to something else, but exactly what it should be linked to is just not hitting me... And what does "Spiderman" have to do with Wikipedia? &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 00:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Every hero has a choice
Edit 1. Different link. Kolindigo (talk) 18:06, 28 September 2008 (UTC) Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 01:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Meh. Still doesn't emphasize what kind of choice you have to make. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 23:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose as per above. The only suggestion I can give is maybe to link 'hero' to WP:EDIAN or something like that. No idea about choice. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  00:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Doesn't really make sense for Wikipedia. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose per La Pianista. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  14:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

If ignorance isn't bliss...
• 97198  talk  14:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Support. Encourages newbies to get help, but I think might make some people to think that ignorance is bliss. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 15:42, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral What... ? flaminglawyerc 11:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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 * Support - I like anything that encourages people to ask for help. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 01:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Very original way of putting it! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support: Didn't get it at first glance, but I can see the idea now. But maybe I'm slow :) C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

An Apple a day keeps the doctor away
comes for the saying "An Apple a day keeps the doctor away".

Alexnia (T) @ 12:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I like. spider1224 20:52, 28 September 2008 (UTC) Per WP:SNOW-- LAA Fan sign review 21:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose What does AIV have to do with "day"? &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 23:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The quote is fine, but neither of the first two links make sense to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:02, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose I would support if not for the second link. As an aside, I'm not sure why "Apple" is capitalized. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  14:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose Agree about the links, and I think a better motto can be made with this. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:46, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

There is no such thing as darkness; what seems so vast and overwhelming is nothing more than the absence of light.
Too long? I do not know who said this quote; I got it from http://collected-quotes.netfirms.com/Evil.html. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 21:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC) ✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 22:27, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Clever. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support I like it! :)  spider1224  20:53, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support There's the ever-so-slight touch of being a hair too long, but the "light" it brings more than makes up for it. :) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 23:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: Nice idea. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  12:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I like it; it's upbeat, clever and deep (for a motto). Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:03, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

C'mon now! Are you really going to let some silly trio of colored-lights tell you how to drive your car?
One of my favorite sayings from several years ago about being bold. &#8734;&#9788;Geaugagrrl (T) / (C) 03:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I love this one; it's hilarious. However, I can see how some people might have a problem with equating boldness and running red lights.  I support it as is, but if you start getting flak about it, I suggest changing the link to Ignore all rules.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Great suggestion which I support. &#8734;&#9788;Geaugagrrl (T) / (C) 02:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support Though the links could be more cleverly chosen. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  02:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support either as is or with the link change to IAR. Kolindigo (talk) 17:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 16:02, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Step by step. Hand in hand.
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 * Comment: kinda unclear relation to Wikipedia. —T-borg (T | C) 18:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support, I get it. Wikipedia is a cooperative project. Progress gets made in steps (WP:BOLD), but things actually get done by working with others hand in hand (WP:CON). Maybe adding those links would help, but this is good as is, I think. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  non-admin (t/a/c) 04:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: See my comment below as well. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 19:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
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 * Support - Good quote, sends an excellent message. Links would be nice, but not strictly necessary.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support ...but it needs a couple of wlinks. (e.g. "Step by step. Hand in hand.") –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think it'd be better as "Hand in hand.". I don't get why the Main Page is linked. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 19:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

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✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 13:53, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support for the revisions recommended by Hersfold. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Our garden needs to be kept cleaned and weeded
About improving the quality of Wikipedia. C h a m a l   Talk   ±  12:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC) ✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 13:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - good motto. -- MightyWarrior (talk) 21:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Works well enough. Malpass93 (talk) 18:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Cool, to-the-point. Mentions vandals without being bland. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 00:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

A diamond cannot be polished without friction, nor can a person be perfected without trials
Wyatt 915  ✍

✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 00:37, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support:It's diffrent from the usual stuff, which is refreshing. one may think it is disincouraging, but I see it to mean: "Don't let the trials get you down, out of them perfection will come" Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 14:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Where did this come from? –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  00:02, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * My teacher said it once. -- Wyatt  915  ✍  22:00, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Btw, could trials be linked to WP:ER? Simply south (talk) 00:16, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong support if suggestion by Simply south was carried out. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 00:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Why not? spider1224  20:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support with the inclusion of the above recomended "trials" link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:09, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

If you don't buy this magazine, We'll kill this dog
From the cover of the January 1973 cover of National Lampoon, its funny and it has a point of how advertisements can get too pushy. Matthew 18 September 2008. —Preceding undated comment was added at 12:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC). Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 00:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Funny though it is, its not related to wikipedia Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 15:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose: Not related to Wikipedia. Even if it can be related, I think at first glance it would appear quite violent. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Not related to Wikipedia. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  02:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - I like the motto (probably because I dislike dogs), but it doesn't seem to be wikipedia related. I'll change my vote if you add in a link or two that eloquently convinces me it is Wikipedia related.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

All you need is a Sharpie to get high.
Now, I realize that it was proven that you can't actually get completely high from sniffing/snorting a Sharpie, but this is definitely better than saying All you need is a syringe full of heroine to get high. flaminglawyerc 12:04, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * oppose. no way, gives completely the wrong idea--Jac16888 (talk) 12:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Support. Exactly my case. Basketball110  My story/Tell me yours 04:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 17:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC) <hr style="width:50%;"/>
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 * Support I love it! LegoKontribsTalkM 16:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Very droll. Good link to wikiholism.  I like it.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:17, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral Clever, but I'm not sure if we want to encourage getting high. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  14:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not getting "high," it's getting High on Wikipedia!! Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Support. It's catchy! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - While the idea is good I don't think this is an appropriate MOTD, people who don't check the links to get the joke will see this as encouraging sniffing and I think that's an impression we should avoid. Stardust8212
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 * Comment: I'm relisting this as I'd like a little better consensus for this motto before approving it. This one is written to be a little controversial, so I'd prefer a few more !votes on it. I have no opinion at this time. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 18:45, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per WP:SNOW-- LAA Fan sign review 00:28, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * support--88wolfmaster (talk) 18:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

A long life is not good enough, but a good life is long enough
Mentioned in Life is a Test. VoL†ro/\/Force 03:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Expresses that life's quality is not measured by length. VoL†ro/\/Force 03:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment, motto is very good indeed, it could be seen in the context of some articles, that have been on Wikipedia for a long time, yet in the end got deleted, and others, like the Virginia Tech massacre article, that in short time became model articles; main problem is lack of links. — May the Edit be with you, always. ( T | C ) 03:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Support I like the sense of it, but needs links for it to work. Phgao 02:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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 * Support - Definitely an excellent idea. Could use some links, probably to appropriate sections of article guidelines referencing length (which I can't seem to find at the moment).  Great message.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support: The motto is definitely good, but there should be some links to relate it to Wikipedia. Chamal    Talk 12:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: The motto is truly one of my favorites because its true. -- Otokorashii Fuyu  男らしい冬  00:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support I like it, and I don't think you can really add links to it. Maybe this could be a special one for next years Virginia Tech anniverary? (April 16) <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 09:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 00:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm relisting this because as this motto currently stands, it fails one of our requirements that mottos must relate to Wikipedia. As mentioned, it's no great stretch to attribute this to articles, however we need some links to do so. This is effectively ✅, we just need to work on it a bit. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 18:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia opens two doors one door leads to the editors, and one side leads to the vandals you can choose which door to close
--Spittlespat (talk) 23:24, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Not a big fan of this one, though I suppose it would be allright if we added some punctuation in there and tweaked a word or two. We'd have to pipe the links, too.  As in, "Wikipedia opens two doors; one door leads to the editors, and one door leads to the vandals.  You can choose which door to close."  Maybe something like that?  Additionally, why is this one listed under the "special" nominations?  Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:39, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 00:21, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose It kind of makes it seem like Wikipedia is full of vandals or something. --Lizzysama (talk) 01:20, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose This quote doesn't make for a good motto. Jor  dan  <sup style="color:blue;">Contribs  11:33, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Mottos need to be short, concise, succint, and catchy. This is none of the four. — Parent5446 ☯ ([ message] email) 02:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose I didn't get the "you can choose which door to close" part « Hiram 111  Δ TalK Δ 16:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Lengthy, un-catchy, and totally deprived of wittyness. Sorry, Spittle. La Pianista  ( T • C • S ) 23:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose For the same reason everyone else is opposing. Smartguy777 (talk) 02:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC).

"Never Forget"
per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 00:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * A motto from a Navy ship. --  Otokorashii Fuyu  男らしい冬  01:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Very weak oppose The links have nothing to do with Wikipedia, but I like the motto as a way of never forgeting the little edits that people do. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Maybe it could link to: Help:Page history? Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 10:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose in its current form. Irrelevant to Wikipedia.  May change to Weak Support with appropriate links.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:53, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose No relevancy to Wikipedia. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: As per above. But I think it can be related to Wikipedia. Maybe something like this one? C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose-- LAA Fan sign review 21:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

→ Once again, the day is saved, thanks to the Powerpuff Girls
Well, I don't need to tell you were I got it, H2H (talk) 08:01, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support:Ha ha ha! Hilarious! Really really witty. Kudos.  La   Al qu im  is ta  11:28, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think the second link is meant to link to WP:CVU so have changed it. And its not always the Powerpuff Girls who save Townsville Simply south (talk) 11:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - LOL, looks good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support I used to like the Powerpuff Girls (like around 7 years ago. I'm 14), and I also like this motto. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c]
 * I still like the Powerpuff Girls (the old episodes, anyway; the ones actually done by Genndy Tartakovsky ), and I'm a 24 year old boy man. :-)  Just because you're mature doesn't mean you can't appreciate a well done cartoon or other piece of children's programming.  In fact, I have a few episodes of Samurai Jack saved up in the DVR to watch when i get home from work tonight.  ;-)   Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

One Body, One Life, One Chance
The words I live by.--Theoneintraining (talk) 07:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Can't it be related to Wikipedia in some way? C h a m a l    Talk   ±  09:04, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment:Nice philosophy. But it really would've been better had it been linked to stuff related to Wikipedia. La   Al qu im  is ta  03:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - Completely unrelated to Wikipedia as currently linked. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - How is this related to Wikipedia? &#8734;&#9788;Geaugagrrl (T) / (C) 04:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose Completely irrelevant. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  15:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Btw, does anyone know where this phrase\saying\quote comes from? Simply south (talk) 20:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Not really catchy.-- LAA Fan sign review 21:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I think its from Just like heaven. H2H (talk) 07:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Can't say it really strikes me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: As per above, and also it looks to me like saying "I'm always right". C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:58, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Reminds me of when doctors used to endorse cigarettes on TV using this phrase. &#8734;&#9788;Geaugagrrl (T) / (C) 04:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Making the world a better place, one article at a time.
No real explanation needed. LAA Fan sign review 16:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support Wikipedia doesn't really make the world a better place but makes kind of a point there. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 20:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I think Wikipedia makes the world a better place, though the placement of the link seems to imply that Wikipedia IS the world. Is that what was intended?  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support – Looks nice. Tells what Wikipedia is all about. Though, should "article" be changed to "edit"? Technically, we're helping make a better encyclopedia every edit at a time. RyRy  ( talk ) 23:33, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

→ One for all, and all for one.
From The Three Musketeers. La  Al qu im  is ta  09:38, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support The one for all doesn't really make sense as Wikipedia for Wikipedians doesn't really work, but like the second one. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 20:27, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support-- LAA Fan sign review 21:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Support: I like it. Wikipedia is for us, and we are working for Wikipedia. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  03:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support --88wolfmaster (talk) 20:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support The links could be better. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  20:56, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

To each his own.
La  Al qu im  is ta  16:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Oppose-- LAA Fan sign review 21:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose: I don't know... at first glance, it might give the impression that Wikipedia is a place to express our views. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  08:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Actually, I meant it to imply that even with all our different point of views, we still remain a big team by tolerating differences of opinion.... But if it's misleading, I've got nothing to say...   La   Al qu im  is ta  11:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - Seems to me to be encouraging NPOV violations. I see what you're saying, La Alquimista, but I don't think it would come off that way.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: changing the "own" link to User page or WP:WHY. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 18:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Neccessity is the mother of invention.
Old Proverb. La  Al qu im  is ta  06:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Red links are the mothers of stubs? I don't get it. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Changed the link. Hope this one is better.  La   Al qu im  is ta  07:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Looks quite good to me. I like the links.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Would be better if invention linked to WP:FA. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:01, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support as it is, or with "invention" linked to Starting an article. I prefer the latter because it is not linked as often in mottos as WP:ARTICLE and WP:FA, and it may be better to employ little-used links when relevant for variety. Anyhow, the motto was good to begin with. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 20:14, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Encourages new articles to benefit the project. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Thanks to La Alquimista for changing it. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 02:10, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support-- LAA Fan sign review 21:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support --88wolfmaster (talk) 20:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: It is everything good, I like it. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:18, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

For those about to rock, we salute you.
Motto from the ACDC song For Those About to Rock. LAA Fan sign review 17:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Seems good to me. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  00:55, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 08:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 09:58, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Good link to Barnstars. Good song, too.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Encouraging, although we don't exactly get a barnstar every time we edit :P . ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support Yes! Someone! Omgomgomg888 (talk) 01:08, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support strdst_grl  (call me Stardust)  14:41, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Uber Support. The links work, the line works. It's all good. Malpass93 (talk) 19:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

It's the thought that counts
Found on wikiqoute in the Swedish Proverbs Page, has this been done before?Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 12:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support suitable link -- MightyWarrior (talk) 14:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support promotes WikiLove! :) --Cameron* 17:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 08:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - I like the link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:11, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Encourages AGF, although it did take me about 10 seconds to get it. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:02, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Nice motto and good message. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  02:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose Not that original. Omgomgomg888 (talk) 01:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Okay, provided it's not been done before. -- MightyWarrior (talk) 21:43, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

The only stupid question is the one that is not asked.
Also found on wikiqoute in the english proverbs Page Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 12:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support It's a good message <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 08:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Excellent message, appropriate links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:15, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support, nice one. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Great idea, but the links' placement seems just a teensy bit awkward. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 22:59, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support:Nice idea, but the links could've been better.  La   Al qu im  is ta  03:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support: Nice motto, but the links don't really go with it. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  08:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

You don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step.
Martin Luther King Jr., Take the first step in faith. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:19, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose Clever motto, though the links don't really work together. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:25, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - I think the links work fine as they are. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:24, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support - Links are just about okay, but with further consideration better ones might be found. -- MightyWarrior (talk) 15:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support I think it has potential of making it as I'm looking at it as of now. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Good idea and encouraging. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 22:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Perhaps change first link to WP:FACR? &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 00:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

There is no honour among thieves.
La  Al qu im  is ta  10:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Nice one. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * support --88wolfmaster (talk) 18:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Sounds good to me. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  00:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:26, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support As per everything above. Also makes sense. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support strdst_grl   (call me Stardust)  14:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Cool, to-the-point. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 03:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

From all according to their ability, to all according to their need.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:25, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral Not terrible, but bland. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:29, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support I actually quite like this one and it's linked well <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 11:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Excellent motto with excellent links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:35, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I was about to submit this myself - great links though. You can't have a page of mottos without a bit of Marx. Machete97 (talk) 10:07, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Nicely linked and good motto too. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  00:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

→Telling the truth is really the most powerful thing you can do.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:25, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose Quite bland –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:29, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Not a good motto or good links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose because I don't think the links quite work out right. I like the motto itself, though. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

→Not telling the truth is really the most unuseful thing you can do.
I would've opposed the original verion as you put the opposite link into it. So I just made the words go opposite. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 01:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose A worse motto with the same bad links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose, I don't like the negative tone and I don't think "unuseful" is a word anyway. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  20:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Confusing. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  08:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose strdst_grl  (call me Stardust)  14:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Both - per consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

If there is a fire in your house, us firefighters will come extinguish it as soon as possible.
Just something I created from my head. Don't know how I got it in my head though. Hope the links and the wording are ok. -- K. Annoyomous  24 [c] 20:17, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: The concept is motto-worthy, but the wording could be more concise. How about: "If there is a fire, we will extinguish it." --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 21:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

"If there is fire, we will extinguish it."
Didn't put the word "a" since there could bemultiple vandalism on the article. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 21:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support -It promotes Anti-vandalism. -- Otokorashii Fuyu  男らしい冬  00:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * support --88wolfmaster (talk) 05:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 11:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Nice one. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support strdst_grl   (call me Stardust)  14:27, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ per WP:SNOW. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 07:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

"Where there's fire, we will extinguish it."
I think this sounds better than the above, but still using the same links. -- MightyWarrior (talk) 15:10, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Do I still get credit for nominating the original version or do MightyWarrior get all the credit? --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 05:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Credit? Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:55, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't generally give credit for mottos - since they're all logged in the archives, there's no need to for the GFDL. Since you came up with the original idea, though, it's still partially "your motto," I suppose, if you really want to look at it that way. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 22:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Up, up, and away!
Basically shows how an article can improve and improve to higher levels (WP:GA, WP:FA, etc) from when it is first created. :-) Thanks, RyRy  ( talk ) 04:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Like it. Nice job, RyRy. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 05:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: Simple, but great. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Nice one. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  02:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support --88wolfmaster (talk) 18:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support. This'll make a great motto! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ for per WP:SNOW. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:49, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Knowledge is like manure. It's only good when it's spread.

 * Note: This isn't my idea. I saw it on one of the village pumps. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support Makes sense. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 02:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Very clever. Nicely linked too. Looks perfect to me. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  02:34, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Now that is something i would not like in my sandwiches! Otherwise, its good so support. Simply south (talk) 20:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support Seems a little odd, but looks good.-- LAA Fan sign review 21:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support --88wolfmaster (talk) 20:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support, this is hilarious. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 20:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: Fantastic. Great idea and great links! Very different. La   Al qu im  is ta  03:34, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: This is a good one. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Clever and very funny. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support -Brilliant! &#8734;&#9788;Geaugagrrl (T) / (C) 04:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Nice one. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  20:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 23, 2008 per consensus. LegoKontribsTalkM 07:09, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Meet your neighbors
Advertises the Regional notice boards, a popular - but not known by all - avenue for discussion and coordination.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Maybe reword to "Have you met your Wikipeida neighbors?" Love the link. Did not know this existed.  &#8734;&#9788;Geaugagrrl (T) / (C) 04:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: A 'different' motto. Something we don't come across often. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Per directly above. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  02:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Always good to get word out about a less well known segment of Wikipedia. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

✅: per consensus. (Motto of the day/October 22, 2008) LegoKontribsTalkM 07:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

There's no such thing as ghosts
For Halloween, October 31st. strdst_grl  (call me Stardust)  11:34, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I like it- funny and clever. Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I love it « Hiram 111  Δ TalK Δ 16:35, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Good! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Cool and smart. La Pianista  ( T • C • S ) 23:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: The motto suits the day very well, and meaning is very cleverly presented. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  12:59, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 14:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

✅: per consensus. LegoKontribsTalkM 06:54, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

→ The more bombers, the less room for doves of peace.
I was searching Wikiquote for motto ideas, and this was the quote of the day. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 19:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Beautiful; love the metaphor. La Pianista  ( T • C • S ) 23:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support love it. nice sentiment. Kolindigo (talk) 05:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 11:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Nicely said. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  12:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Khrushchev could really turn a phrase when he wanted to. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support As per everything above. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support strdst_grl  (call me Stardust)  14:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 10:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

→ I don't deserve this award, but I have arthritis and I don't deserve that either.
--88wolfmaster (talk) 21:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Not much of a motto... doesn't really say anything good about Wikipedia. Nutiketaiel (talk) 22:48, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - What? I dont get it... <span style= "font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:#00C000"> Dillard421 (talk • contribs)  00:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Rather contradictory, isn't it? 'Addicted' users are usually dedicated and I don't see how they don't deserve an award, though not accepting is a different thing. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 11:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose strdst_grl  (call me Stardust)  14:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 10:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

→ We're sorta like 7-Eleven, we're not always doing business, but we're always open.
A quote from The Boondock Saints, I'm not sure if I picked the best links but thought I'd see what others thought. Stardust8212 19:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose Seems good, but a bit of copyediting needed. Remove the "we're sorta like 7 eleven" part, and I'll support.-- LAA Fan  19:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose It sounds like we shouldn't be developing articles.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 19:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess I didn't consider that it could be perceived that way, not my intended message I assure you. Stardust8212 23:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose Per iMatthew. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  22:26, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Yeah, I don't like the message. Nutiketaiel (talk) 22:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose Gives people the wrong meaning of Wikipedia and that is about developing. The link goes directing to Article development which is horrible. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

 per consensus. Simply south (talk) 08:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade
I think this motto has the potinetial of being really great, but I can't really find this right links to use. I'm sure there's many other great things I could've put, but I just couldn't think of one. I also don't know if this is too cliche or not. -- ♥Soccer5525♥  Talk To Me! 00:16, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - It's not cliche, it's a good saying. I like it, provided the quote has not allready been used.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:31, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support as per above by Nutiketaiel. -- K. Annoyomous  24 [c] 20:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 12:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

✅, just, per consensus. Simply south (talk) 08:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

→ Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.
--88wolfmaster (talk) 21:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Very clever. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  22:29, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - This one I like. Nutiketaiel (talk) 22:49, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it. Its about the Wikipedia and very true lol. <span style= "font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:#00C000"> Dillard421 (talk • contribs)  00:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: Gives the message very strongly I think. No edit wars! Chamal    Talk 02:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. But in this case, does a repetition of "support" turn it into a truth...? &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 23:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 12:00, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Makes very much sense. --  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:11, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ for Motto of the day/October 19, 2008 per WP:SNOW just so we can have one full month scheduled in advance!! <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 20:53, 19 September 2008 (UTC)