Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 14

You can't just sit there and watch everything happen!
Edit one - added link to WP:BOLD.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 01:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support, that's right. Simply south (talk) 17:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support (but stronger than the weak support I gave the other one; we'll call this Weak Support+) - It is better with this link instead of none at all, but the link isn't very imaginative... Nutiketaiel (talk)


 * Almost-Full Support - per Nutiketaiel. &mdash; La Pianista (T•C•S) 18:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support. It's okay...just not great. The link is still kind of dull. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 12:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support Pretty good. Q  A  E  23:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak support &mdash; There's nothing wrong with it, per se. "Meh" applies here. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  23:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support: Per above comments. C h a m a l  talk 00:30, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

→ I fly like paper, get high like planes.
From M.I.A.'s Paper Planes (song). --  K. Annoyomous 24 [c] 01:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Nothing wrong with it, I guess, it just doesn't really pop out at me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral per above. The first half is actually quite good, but the second link killed it... –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  16:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you think of another link that can replace the second? --  SRE.K.A nnoyomous .L. 24 [c] 18:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. I actually like the second half. There are other ways you can link it, though, like maybe "get high like planes", or "get high like planes"...but I think it's fine the way it is! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 14:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Artichoke-boy's first link. &mdash; La Pianista (T•C•S) 04:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

===Wikipedia In Knowledge In People Easy Daring Informational Art===

From an anon's sandbox edit. Any further modifications are greatly welcomed. :) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 02:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. A nice idea, but I suggest you make a few changes. The first I could stand for Inventive(?) and the second for Interesting(?), also the K could stand for Knowledgeable and opposed to just Knowledge. Just a few points, feel free to ignore or take them on.  Blooded Edge  Sign/Talk 17:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

====Wikipedia Inventive Knowledgeable Interesting People Easy Daring Informational Art==== Edit 1, per Blooded Edge's concerns. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 19:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - It's OK, I guess. Maybe good for a slow news day.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Maybe Art would be better as Artistic, but I like this either way :). Blooded Edge ☆ 12:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support. It's original...but I just don't get the "Art" reference. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:42, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

====Wikipedia Inventive Knowledgeable Interactive Popular Easy Daring Informative Academic==== Edit 2. Different words. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 20:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. I like this one better for some reason...maybe it's the "Interactive" and "Academic" references. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 14:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Medium Support - It's better than the last version, but I'm still not a huge fan. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

All - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Opposed. I don't like the motto's style. Q  A  E  00:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Clever and witty!-- Spittle spat  23:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

→ Don't fear the reaper.
Based on the song of the same name --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 16:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Won't it look like we are inviting people to be bold and create articles of unencyclopedic nature? C h a m a l    Talk   ±  13:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Good point. Would WP:NPA be more suitable for "reaper", or perhaps just linking the entire motto to WP:BOLD? --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 16:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support the WP:BOLD link. C h a m a l  talk work 15:22, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose As it is, it implies that we want people to nominate more AfDs. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  18:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - With UberScienceNerd's suggestion of linking the entire quote to WP:BOLD. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

→ Don't fear the reaper.
Edit 1. Per UberScienceNerd's and Nutiketaiel's suggestion Q  A  E  00:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Q  A  E  00:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per above. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: This version is better, as I mentioned above. C h a m a l  talk 12:14, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Shoot for the Moon - If you miss, you'll land among the Stars
Assuming it hasn't been used yet. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  15:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - Looks good. Sunderland06  (talk) 15:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - Looks good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - a bit cliché, but not bad. &mdash; La Pianista (T•C•S) 04:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. Good idea overall, but I'm thinking the quote is "even if you miss", and also the fact is you can't land among stars :P . ~ A H  1 (TCU) 21:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support: Nice one. C h a m a l  talk 12:13, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Look. Cover. Write. Check.
Choice 1

Look. Cover. Write. Check
Choice 2

Look. Cover. Write. Check
Choice 3

3 alternatives listed above. I'm not sure what to add for Cover though. An old phrase for doing work. Simply south (talk) 18:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - How about Look. Cover. Write. Check.? Matty4123 (talk) 18:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Perhaps add it as another alternative. Now i think the trouble is that there are so many possibilities with this one. Btw, i've corrected at least my third option so it shows the action of doing. Simply south (talk) 18:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I like the 2nd one, maybe with WP:V as link for cover. C h a m a l  talk 13:05, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Like that? Simply south (talk) 13:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't really like the motto. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose &mdash; Nutiketaiel said it best. –Juliancolton Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  15:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Well, I don't know if this violates WP:UGH, but it just doesn't sparkle for me. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 17:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think WP:UGH is meant specifically to refer to article deletion discussions. I think we're allowed to be a little subjective with MotD.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Too long and not so good.-- Spittlespat   ALIENS  22:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? It is only four words. Btw, is everyone opposing to all of the first three choices? Simply south (talk) 17:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm opposing all four choices. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Like La Pianista said, it just doesn't sparkle. Q  A  E  00:08, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

All per consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Look. Cover. Write. Check.
Choice 4 of Look. Cover. Write. Check. - Matty4123 (talk) 18:59, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 *  Weak support - mostly good, but "Check" may be better linked to WP:PR --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 19:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Done - Matty4123 (talk) 19:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Still don't like it. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Like La Pianista said, it just doesn't sparkle. Q  A  E  00:09, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose-- Spittle spat  23:50, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope i'm not going overboard but i still want to know why you think it is too long? Simply south (talk) 21:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose I just checked my 6th Class spelling book, and that's exactly, word for word, written on the cover. TopGearFreak   Talk  17:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

→ Wikipedia is like a Rubik's Cube. The only way to solve it is by turning one step at a time.
Hope it's good or hope anyone can make a copyedit for this. -- <font face="Comic Sans MS">  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 02:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - It's OK, I guess. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support Not the best, not the worst... –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  17:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support. Okay. It's kind of long and meandering, but good enough to be accepted. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC) <hr style="width:50%;"/>
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks.


 * weak support --88wolfmaster (talk) 21:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Two wrongs don't make a right!
-- Spittle spat!  <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA">ǀ T  ♦  C  ♦  S  23:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. I think it's pretty good, but I think the wikilinks should be different. I'm not sure what that best links would be, I'd have to give it some more thought. Useight (talk) 15:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: The link should be something related to Wikipedia. That is, usually something in the Wikipedia namespace. Anyway, I suggest something like "Two wrongs don't make a right". That's the best I can think of right now. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:55, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support with links by Chamal. Trvsdrlng (talk) 16:41, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I, too, like the links Chamal provided. Useight (talk) 21:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support the links by Chamal. The original isn't very good.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Has something like this been used before? It looks oddly familiar... &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 01:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I checked the archives (that is why i found the special xmas nom) to find this and could not. So either it hasn't been archived or it was never done. Simply south (talk) 20:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Three wrongs don't make a right!
Withdrawn. Withdrawn by submitter. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 04:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

- withdrawn. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

→Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
I like this quote a lot but I can't figure out appropriate links for it. any suggestions or is it just a lost cause? --88wolfmaster (talk) 19:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmmm...I'm trying to think of how to link this without it seeming anti-Wikipedia. What about "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" as sort of a twist on the quote's original meaning? I'll let you know if I think of anything else. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe: →Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. --88wolfmaster (talk) 07:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, I like that one (why didn't I think of that?). My vote would be support if the above links are put in. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 12:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support new links and its quite funny. Simply south (talk) 21:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support links Oppose (Changed per below). I'm generally opposed to links that lack a WP prefix. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 23:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose. “An analysis of the history of technology shows that technological change is exponential, contrary to the common-sense "intuitive linear" view. So we won't experience 100 years of progress in the 21st century -- it will be more like 20,000 years of progress (at today's rate). The "returns," such as chip speed and cost-effectiveness, also increase exponentially. There's even exponential growth in the rate of exponential growth. Within a few decades, machine intelligence will surpass human intelligence, leading to The Singularity -- technological change so rapid and profound it represents a rupture in the fabric of human history. The implications include the merger of biological and nonbiological intelligence, immortal software-based humans, and ultra-high levels of intelligence that expand outward in the universe at the speed of light.” Ray Kurzweil, The Law of Accelerating Returns, Published on KurzweilAI.net (March 7, 2001) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * What an interesting opposition reason! Simply south (talk) 13:16, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * awe come on I'm a huge geek but even so I see what Picasso meant in this computers can not think (yet anyway) they lack imagination and can only do what they are programmed/told to do. Similarly normal encyclopedias/dictionaries can only give you answers/definitions while wikipedia is a great primary reference point allowing users to gain an overview and in some well written FA extensive knowledge in a specific subject matter BUT go beyond that by providing links, references, near real time updating, etc. In short, a computers are far behind the capabilities of the human brain for a simple lack of imagination just like wikipedia is not just a dictionary and that my defense for this quote. --88wolfmaster (talk) 03:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I can understand what Picasso means, as well - art leaves the imagination open to questions that have no answer (or, even better, give rise to new ones). He, of course, was the one that spawned the puzzling question of whether "art imitates life or life imitates art." Wikipedia does have a highly philosophical undertone to its workings whether we like it or not - the "sum of human knowledge" is simply inspiring to any pensive thinker... However, what probably hasn't yet been noticed about this quote is that this encyclopedia is often reached via computers, hence some could see it as a negative slant on Wikipedia itself. :) &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 03:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Oppose - I don't like the quote, and I don't like the links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Too many cooks spoil the broth
Matty4123 (talk) 16:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * weak support i've seen a lot of vandalism quotes --88wolfmaster (talk) 19:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I like what it has to say (this motto actually looked Anti-Wikipedia at first glance, though!). Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:03, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support: It's OK, but then again, it looks like vandals are making Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chamal_N (talk • contribs)
 * Oppose per the unsigned comment above. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 03:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh crap!! That was me. C h a m a l  talk 03:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * weak oppose--88wolfmaster (talk) 07:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - So... too many vandals is bad, but a few is OK? Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

perconsensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Only in Wikipedia does Cheating equal Learning
This motto is created mostly for laughs...but it is true! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:15, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support Nothing wrong with it, per se; it just doesn't pop out at me. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support Yeah, true enough. Not the catchiest though. C h a m a l  talk 15:20, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - Can't say I like this one very much. Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

===→ You don't really want to stay, no But you don't really want to go, oh.===
 * From Katy Perry's song "Hot N' Cold".  iMa tth ew   (talk) 20:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment, oh: Very cute. But change the arrow link to Hot N Cold, to be specific. After that, this'll have my Support. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Done.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 11:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support I've never heard of it, but it seems to be good enough. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: I like the sound of it. C h a m a l  talk 15:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Catchy. Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:01, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I like it! Q  A  E  23:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Only you can give them a chance to shine
An article's potential is very important in Wikipedia! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:59, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support i like the links. This would work. However, this may also work as Only you can give them a chance to shine - btw, im not sure what to link to shine here. Simply south (talk) 20:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Follow Simply south's links, but add WP:RFAS to "Shine." &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Only you can give them a chance to shine
Edit 1. Requested links by Simply south and La Pianista. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 01:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Hah, very clever. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per me. :D &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 14:12, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I certain i can' support myself. Simply south (talk) 14:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Good enough. C h a m a l  talk 15:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * support --88wolfmaster (talk) 19:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I think that this is a good motto. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - This is an excellent sentiment. Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:02, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Very good! I like this more than the original because Wikipedians themselves aren't linked to in mottoes much Q  A  E  23:36, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Great idea, but I think the original is good too. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 22:01, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Edit 1 ✅. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

If at first you don't succeed, try and try again
Hopefully not FUI. Simply south (talk) 22:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - I like this one, assuming it hasn't been done before. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose WP:FFA implies that you have already succeeded. Also, I don't think "and" is part of the phrase. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone
 * I've found a much more suitable link (shame there was no Wikipedia page). Also, i am certain the "and" is in the phrase. Simply south (talk) 10:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Another good one. C h a m a l  talk 15:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Good motto. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

→Great works are performed, not by strength, but by perseverance.
Matty4123 (talk) 14:50, 22 October 2008 (UTC) *Comment what about, Great works are performed, not by strength, but by perseverance. Matty4123 (talk) 13:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support A classic- what can you say? Alex Jackl (talk) 18:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Excellent quote, and good link selection. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:53, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong support Excellent motto. `–Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  18:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Simple, precise, to-the-point, a good message...how can I say no? Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Someone clever, please come up with something for the "strength" link. Then, it will have my strong support. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Matty4123's links. Vandalism shouldn't be seen as a form of strength. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 14:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Link Suggestion - How about linking "Strength" to WP:EDITCOUNT, implying that it is not the quantity of the edits that matters, but the quality? Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. Good motto. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

→Great works are performed, not by strength, but by perseverance.
Edit 1 per Nutiketaiel's ingenious link. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The Strongest Support in the History of Mankind - How could I give anything else? She called me "ingenious."  :-)  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Good idea. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 22:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Stronger Support than my "Support" above. Even better than the first due to the added link. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 13:30, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Both are good and recieve approved but as they are almost the same only one version can be used so edit 1 ✅. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

→An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
Matty4123 (talk) 14:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support ANother classic - a sure bet.  Alex Jackl (talk) 18:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - But did he actually say that for certain? I heard that the line was just made up for the movie... well, no matter, excellent motto anyway.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Links are interesting, the motto is clever, it's not a Star Wars or Simpsons quote; support. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  18:46, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. One of my favorite quotes of all time...and a great MOTD. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:26, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong support - I love Ghandi. :) &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:25, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support! GREAT QUOTE!!! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

→We're all looking for that special someone.
Quote from Grand Theft Auto IV - Matty4123 (talk) 19:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - funnyish. Simply south (talk) 22:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose DOn't really see the value... Alex Jackl (talk) 18:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - It's OK, I guess. Maybe on a slow news day.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral Per above. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  18:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weakish Support. Good for a chuckle. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

No matter where you wander, however far you roam, the footprints on the path you take will lead you home
Matty4123 (talk) 17:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Approve Wher eis this form?  Is this like the Bukaroo Bonzai quote: "Wherever you go, there you are!"  That is a little more peppy and interesting in my opinion... Alex Jackl (talk) 18:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - AJack1 is right, it does sound like a cumbersome paraphrasing of another quote. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Seems fine to me. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  18:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support per Ajackl and Nutik. Needs spice. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 17:20, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

→ In Soviet Wikipedia, you don't own article... ...Article own you!
Something for kicks and giggles. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 21:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: In soviet russia, you don't give support, support get you. C h a m a l  talk 00:59, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support; heh heh! wonderful! mathwhiz  29  03:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support --88wolfmaster (talk) 07:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose! Believing that an article has an owner is a common mistake people make on Wikipedia. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:20, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: But that's what it says, isn't it? That you don't own articles. C h a m a l  talk 13:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment ~ It says that in Soviet Wikipedia you don't own articles, but we all know that in Wikipedia it's the same. So, there is no difference between Soviet Wikipedia and Wikipedia, and they seem to be the same thing. Do you want to add Soviet Wikipedia link to that??? IMHO, both links work fine but the message is ambiguous. If we remove the word Soviet from the first line, it will be ambiguous again because it gives the impression that Wikipedia makes wikipedians addicted. These are the reasons why I do not support this motto. Anyway, a good joke but not a good motto. "Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno" ("One for all, all for one") is a motto. Sorry, it's just my opinion. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Super Strong Support - It's great!!!!! Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for this. Weak Oppose - FUI. Also see Motto_of_the_day/Nominations/Archive_2. Simply south (talk) 16:34, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Wellllllllll... it's undoubtedly similiar to the previously used example you cite, but its not identical. I think the reference to article ownership rather than simple editing makes this one different enough to be worth using.  I stand by my Super Strong Support.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I like this, it's witty and makes sense. Strong Support. Malpass93 (talk) 18:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong support. LOL!! ~ A H  1 (TCU) 21:56, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak, late, support Funny enough. <font face="Gill Sans MT">I c eUnshattered  [ t ] 21:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * }

It is important to know all the rules so that you can break them.
A phrase my piano teach has often quoted - first saw it outside his office. :) &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 21:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - sorry but it implies that what the message says, it may also imply that not following policy, which to some means a bad thing..... Simply south (talk) 22:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Doesn't give the idea how WP:IAR is done. It'll look like you can ignore whatever you want, whenever you want. C h a m a l  talk 01:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose, but I like the idea... mathwhiz 29  03:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * oppose --88wolfmaster (talk) 07:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - This is my personal philosophy, and it applies very well to Wikipedia. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose. A good idea, but it uses WP:IAR incorrectly. Q  A  E  23:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - No, this is a perfect use of WP:IAR. If you know the rules, you know when its right to break/ignore them, that is, when ignoring them would be for the good of Wikipedia.  That's what IAR is all about.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * }

→A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step
Every accomplishment has humble beginnings. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - I really like this one. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 21:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support &mdash; nice one. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  21:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional Strong Support - I support it ONLY if you alter the quote to make it accurate- "A journey of a thousand li starts with a single step." A li is a chinese unit of measurement (about 1/2 a kilometer).  Additionally, it was Laozi, not Confucius; it's from the Tao Te Ching.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * }

→A journey of a thousand li starts with a single step
Edit 1. Changed the quote for accuracy ("miles" were unheard of in China at this time; they had their own units of measurement, like the li) and correctly attributed it to Laozi, not Confucius. See Laozi. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - That's better. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Response: Thanks for your corrections Nutiketaiel...I like things better when they're accurate too! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - moving support here. How comical it would be if we, as encyclopedia, were to make that anachronism. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista  (T•C•S) 22:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: But I'm not sure if everyone knows what Li is. C h a m a l  talk 15:44, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a common enough saying that I think they'll get the point. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Besides, anyone can look that up - we're Wikipedia. ;) &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 17:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, see? Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. Good one. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * }
 * }

→ Things aren't always what they seem.
Was just thinking about adding some random quote to see if it can pass for MOTD. --  SRE.K.A nnoyomous .L. 24 [c] 10:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support Strong Oppose - Matty 4123  (T•C•A) 23:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose been used before.  iMa tth ew   19:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Oddly, a search through the archives turns up nothing. Does sound familiar, though. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 20:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think IMatthew doesn't like my suggestions, that's all. --  SRE.K.A nnoyomous .L. 24 [c] 21:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I just think you submitted a very bad batch.  iMa tth ew   21:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I just think that you should've just told me why you hated them, so that I can fix the problem. --  SRE.K.A nnoyomous .L. 24 [c] 21:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose &mdash; it implies that it's normal to violate WP:AGF. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  21:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * How about this? --  SRE.K.A nnoyomous .L. 24 [c] 21:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Better. Support with the changes. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  21:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 *  Conditional support Strong Oppose with changes, if it hasn't been used before. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 23:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Verbatim! &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 23:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Support if not done before --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 23:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * See September 19, 2008 - it's been used.  iMa tth ew   23:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow...ok then. I'm Withdrawing this nomination. --  SRE.K.A nnoyomous .L. 24 [c] 23:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * }

→ In some cases, ignorance is strength
...need I say more? Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC) Ugh, what was I thinking?...horrible motto idea! I must've been absentminded at the time. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 01:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Withdrawn. Withdrawn by submitter. Q A  E  23:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose. We're an encyclopedia. I get the links, but we're encouraging people to learn. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * }

→ We may have all come on different ships, but we're in the same boat now
A great Martin Luther King Jr quote made into a possible MOTD. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC) - Matty 4123  (T•C•A) 21:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional support - if first link were changed to WP:POV. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 22:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * }

→ We may have all come on different ships, but we're in the same boat now
Edit 1. link request by La Pianista. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 01:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC) ✅ - Matty 4123  (T•C•A) 21:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Support –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per me (again). :D &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 14:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: An excellent motto. It really gets into me (well, you know what I mean). C h a m a l  talk 15:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support. I agree with Chamal, it's an excellent motto. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Excellent suggestion on the new link, La Pianista. Nutiketaiel (talk) 15:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Great new link! Q  A  E  23:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Great idea, that's what NPOV is all about. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 22:02, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * }

→ ...So whether it's creating an article, or making a minor edit, it just has to work.
This is a takeoff of a Duracell battery commercial slogan that I've always liked. It was only a matter of time before I turned it into a Wikipedia MOTD! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 14:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong support - Bong, Boong, Bing! (the Duracell chime) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 19:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Yay! ~ A H  1 (TCU) 22:59, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Fairly clever. I like it.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:04, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support:Clever and simple. An excellent motto. C h a m a l  talk 12:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

→ I get by with a little help from my friends
Not very good, but I'm trying to get as many Beatles songs in here as possible. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#999FFF">Den <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:Gainsboro">dodge | Talk Contribs 18:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support - It's okay, I suppose, but it lacks a certain "pizazz." I can't specify what kind of pizazz, though. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 18:40, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - I like the reference to the Help Desk; it's good to remind people that its there. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:05, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: Different, and agree with Nutiketaiel too. C h a m a l  talk 12:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. As per Nutiketaiel. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

→ You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
And so with all these Beatles references, this John Lennon song is stuck in my head. Any thoughts on better links are appreciated. :) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 17:19, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Auto-support all Beatle-related mottos. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#999FFF">Den <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:Gainsboro">dodge | Talk Contribs 18:26, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Looks very good to me. I like the links as they are, but if you want to change them, perhapc changing the "dreamer" link to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_future_of_Wikipedia.  (I don't know how to make an external link look right)  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

→ You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
Edit 1 - Changed per Nutiketaiel. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 18:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: I prefer this one. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#999FFF">Den <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:Gainsboro">dodge  Talk Contribs 18:26, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support. It's always good to have mottos that remind us of the future of Wikipedia, and this does it very well. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I'm a helper! Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:29, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: as per the above comments. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Think big thoughts, but relish small pleasures.
-- LAA Fan sign review 17:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong support - This gnome is flattered. :D &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 17:12, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Nice. Both FAs and Gnomes are useful to Wikipedia. C h a m a l  talk work 04:43, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. I like the Gnome reference! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Great idea. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Good quotes, and I like reminding people of the existance of wiki-fauna. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I pretend to work. They pretend to pay me.
-- LAA Fan sign review 17:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: Funny, and kind of true as well ;) C h a m a l  talk work 04:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: Perhaps change the slightly-overused WP:FA to WP:BARN? &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 17:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. LOL. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support, pending the change of WP:FA to WP:BARN. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:29, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional Strong Support pending the change of WP:FA to WP:BARN. I also recommend linking "They" to WP:KC or WP:ADMIN or Wikimedia Foundation, but that's just a suggestion.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I pretend to work. They pretend to pay me.
Edit 1, per Julian, Nutik, and I. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 00:08, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

✅ edit 1 per consensus above. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

→We will all laugh at gilded butterflies
Don't know if its been used before or if the links are any good. Might as well have some Shakespeare on MOTD - Matty4123 (talk) 17:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose for a few reasons. First, it implies that abosolutely anyone can ban vandals from the links, which can only be done by admins. Secondly, banning vandals is only a last resort, if they have been particularly disruptive, especially after many blocks.

Another note is that the quote does not need to be capitalised. Can you also give which play this came from? Simply south (talk) 19:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - Well it does state that "The Wikipedia community can decide, by Consensus, to impose a ban" albeit a last resort. But anyway, it's not supposed to imply that users can ban vandals, just that they will eventually get banned if they continue to vandalise pages. What if the first link was removed? P.S. The quote came from King Lear. Matty4123 (talk) 19:30, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that on where.


 * I think it is especially the "we will alll" part that emphasises the implication. Just my opinion. I think a better link, if this is used for the first part, i.e. we will all, should possibly link to WP:CONSENSUS but then again it is stll uncertain. Simply south (talk) 20:10, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Oppose - The links don;t make a whole lot of sense to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Any ideas on how to make it better? What if the first 1 or 2 links are removed? Matty4123 (talk) 20:04, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

→We will all laugh at gilded butterflies
Edit 1: Changed first link to one suggested by Simply south. Matty4123 (talk) 20:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: I like the sound of it, but it'd be better if it was related to something else. Something other than vandals, I mean. C h a m a l  talk work 11:58, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

→We will all laugh at gilded butterflies
Edit 2: Removed first two links. Matty4123 (talk) 20:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose per Do not insult the vandals --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 21:44, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support I can't decide if it's still insulting vandals... –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:26, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - The quote makes no sense at all related to Vandalism. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

All per consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

→ Got your number
I hope this link is okay and the motto isn't bland. This is off a call centre advert. Simply south (talk) 16:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - I like it. Its simple and it works well. Matty4123 (talk) 19:41, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral - OK, but really bland. If this is a pop culture reference, I've got no idea what it is; hence, many people may not get it. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 19:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - It's OK, I guess. Maybe on a slow news day.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 19:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment I've added the link where it is from. Simply south (talk) 21:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support: Well, I guess it works. C h a m a l  talk work 11:56, 18 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support. I've NEVER heard this slogan before...but I guess it could work. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 14:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral Never heard of this slogan. The motto isn't particularly bad, but I suspect most editors won't know what we're talking about. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:12, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I just figured it was about to be followed by "867-5309." I thought that was the reference.  :-)  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * LOL. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 18:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Look to the master Follow the master Walk with the master Be the master
Saw it on a web site sometime ago, not exactly sure what it was though. I'm not exactly happy with the links (particularly the last one), but I can't think of better ones either. If you guys like the motto, please feel free to improve it. C h a m a l talk work 12:25, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it, it's pretty good. As for the last link, I would suggest changing it to either WP:BARN or Request for Adminship.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support It's ok, I suppose. The second and forth links don't make a lot of sense, though. Cheers, –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:00, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * How about Article development as the 2nd link? As for the 4th link, I think Request for Adminship will do, as suggested by Nutiketaiel. If you have a better idea, please don't be shy ;) or just be bold, go ahead and add it. C h a m a l  talk work 13:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I would support Article development as the second link if it is necessary to change it, but I see nothing wrong with Your First Article. It makes good sense, linking that to "Follow the Master."  After your training is complete, you would naturally go on to make an article.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:36, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support if second link were changed to WP:Article development. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 19:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Look to the master Follow the master Walk with the master Be the master
Edit 1: Changed as suggested. C h a m a l talk work 11:54, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per my above comment. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 17:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support as above. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I like its preciseness. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ edit 1. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Thinking Ahead
or if you prefer, Danger! Thinking Ahead! Paul, in Saudi (talk) 15:59, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Oppose - It's not connected to Wikipedia in any way. Put in some good links, and it may be OK.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose No links, and irrelevant to Wikipedia. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support: I understand what the other commenters mean, but disagree that it is completely irrelevant. This sort of motto can deliver a message without links. It is slightly confusing, though: Is it referring to caution signs on roads, or "thinking ahead" as in considering the future? --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 23:16, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Suppot if and only if links are provided. How about "Thinking Ahead"?  iMa tth ew   (talk) 23:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Those links would have my Weak Support. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If iMatthew's links are put in, my vote is Support for this motto. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:51, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support with links. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Thinking Ahead
Edit 1 per iMatthew. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support per my above. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Per above. I like its reference to the future of Wikipedia: what we should all think about when contributing. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:05, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ edit 1 per consensus. Simply south (talk) 11:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

→ I think I'd better leave right now, before i fall any deeper
Simply south (talk) 08:58, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - We should not be encouraging people to leave. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Whoops, maybe i'll withdraw straight away. Simply south (talk) 16:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Matty4123 (talk) 13:05, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Wait! This would make a decent motto with different links:

→ I think I'd better leave right now, before I fall any deeper
How is this? --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 19:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Better than mine. Support. Simply south (talk) 22:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - I don't really like it, it just doesn't do it for me.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support - It's all right, but it doesn't really "reflect the community or purpose of Wikipedia." &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 02:20, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - no consensus (edit 1). Simply south (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose We encourage more activity, not Wikibreaks! :-)–Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:31, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - Indeed. Wikibreaks are for the weak!  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:03, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 13:05, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Once is naught, twice is one too many, thrice is a habit.
Should proably be about four or five...Found on wikiqoute in the Swedish Proverbs Page, slightly edited because of faulty translation Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 12:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support Like the quote but should change Thrice into whatever four or five is. Is four Quadice or Quadrice? Just wondering. -- <font face="Comic Sans MS">  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: There isn't anything for four five etc etc, you simply say 'four times' 'five times'... Theterribletwins1111 (talk) 10:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - It's OK. Not great.  Maybe on a slow news day.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I like the message, but do you think you could change the last link to fit what it links to better? Maybe something like "Thrice is forbidden."? But if you don't want to, that's fine... I'm still voting "Support". Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - it's fine.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Matty4123 (talk) 11:58, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak support It's usually 4 warnings that gets a block, but it's fine, I suppose. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  18:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * weak support --88wolfmaster (talk) 21:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 7, 2008 per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 13:01, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

=== → Help me if you can, I'm feeling down, And I do appreciate you being round... === The Beatles are amazing, and this speaks directly to a user - asking them to adopt new users. It would also work with WP:HD or WP:NCHP instead of WP:ADOPT, but I'll leave that up to you experts. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#999FFF">Den <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:Gainsboro">dodge | Talk Contribs 11:56, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: I like it. BTW, "experts"? Look who's talking :D C h a m a l  talk work 12:01, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Encouraging. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:05, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Never heard of it, but it works well. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Sweet. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good to me. Reminders of WP:ADOPT and WP:STAR are always good.  I think of these mottos as being borderline PSAs; we should try to remind people of less well known or used, but still important, parts of the Wiki.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Good motto. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:13, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 6, 2008 per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 12:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

→ And now for something completely different...
A motto about the random article link in Wikipedia. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I am really surprised this has not been done before and is great with that link. Strong support. Simply south (talk) 21:15, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Great idea. Nice and simple but it does the job. Matty4123 (talk) 21:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: "Excellent" is the only way I can put it. C h a m a l  talk work 11:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - "Fantastic" is the only way I can put it ("excellent" was allready taken). Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:32, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support Brilliance, plain and simple. spider1224  19:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support Encourages editing. Fantastique! &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 19:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Good idea. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:08, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per self. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:10, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 5, 2008 per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 12:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

You have the right to remain silent, but there’s still so much more to say!
Here's one about the right to vanish in (you guessed it!) Wikipedia. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 22:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support: It works I guess. But RTV is a 'right' that a user has, and this looks to me as if opposing that. I mean, like holding them back when they want to leave. C h a m a l  talk work 15:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I really like this one. People have the right to vanish, no doubt, but that doesn't mean that we WANT people to vanish, and there IS so much more to say.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:01, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Although people may leave if they want to, we generally want them to stick around. :) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 18:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Well done. :-) –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:59, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 4, 2008 per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 12:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Try not. Do, or do not, there is no try.

 * Strong Oppose - Get something more original. Additionally, even if this one hasn't actually been used before (which I find hard to believe), there is no reference to Wikipedia.  At least change the links.  Also, try to use the appropriate format.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:17, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Aaaargh! Another irrelevant link. If this hasn;t been used before, please add link(s) related to Wikipedia. BTW, who submitted this? C h a m a l  talk work 15:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Please, let's lay off the Star Wars, for a while, eh? &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 17:47, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

per consensus and no wikipedia related links. Matty4123 (talk) 18:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

→The art of being wise is the art of knowing what to overlook.
--88wolfmaster (talk) 04:00, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Very clever. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - The links are great. Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - I always love a smart motto. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 19:07, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: Excellent motto, smart links. We should definitely use this. C h a m a l  talk work 15:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support. A rarely intelligent motto with great links! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Great idea. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:15, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: as per the above comments. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:23, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 3, 2008 per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 13:27, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

→ And I just can't break myself no way But I don't want to escape I just can't stop.
From Ne-Yo's song, "Closer".  iMa tth ew   (talk) 12:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - The links are clever. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Clever motto. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Good motto and cleverly linked. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support. The layout's kind of confusing, but I do like the links. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 14:07, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
After a quote from H. P. Baxxter in one of his songs with the German techno-band Scooter (of all people). Also sometimes attributed to John Cassis.

It represents the idea of why people should contribute to Wikipedia: not for personal fame and glory without caring for the quality, but for everyone and keeping quality as your main objective.

PLEASE don't change ANYTHING to this. It's perfect. And it's mine. I don't want anyone to contribute. undefined

BlackCat (Speak!) 11:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Maybe you could re-direct Important to WP:ADMIN? And be nice to WP:wikipedians? Many people think that being an admin is extreemley important and etc etc, I'm not suggesting it isn't, but it is more important to be a productive member of our community. Whether you are an admin or not. <font face="Chiller" size="4"> Blooded Edge  Sign/Talk 17:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with you when it comes to the first link. Many users strive to be an admin because they feel those users are per definition better. About the second suggestion, I'm not sure, since among Wikipedians are also the vandals and the anti-productive. Isn't there some essay on how normal users can be just as productive as admins or anyone else? BlackCat (Speak!) 00:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I really like this quote, as is. I do not support changing either link.  I think they are fine the way they are.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:03, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I link the quote, and it fits well into a Wikipedia-related lesson. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support This motto gives good advice and the links work. Simply south (talk) 20:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. It's good as is, but how about with the first link to WP:ADMIN? ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:26, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: I like it. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

→ What's wrong with me? Why do I feel like this? I'm going crazy now.
From Rihanna's Disturbia. -- <font face="Chiller" size="3"> K. Annoyomous 24 [c] 01:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - This one is pretty funny, and the links make sense. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Are we trying to encourage sending an article to AFD just because it's a stub? –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Agree with Juliancolton. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:05, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose in its present form per Juliancolton's concern. Would replacing the links with WP:NN or WP:PN for the first part, and WP:SPEEDY for the last part, be preferable? --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 20:36, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional support with U.S.N's links. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:10, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes we can
I suppose someone has already put this in. Politics aside, I like it as a Wiki-motto too. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 22:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Unclear relevance to Wikipedia. Try adding links.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: There was something similar, albeit Bob-the-Builder-based, in July 2007: "Can you edit? Yes you can!" --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 19:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Again, just like your motto above, adding links is very helpful in making a good motto. Maybe try something like "Yes We Can"... or "Yes We Can", to make it more relevant to Wikipedia. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support with Artichoke-Boy's first link: Yes We Can. Also, there should probably be punctuation. Something like Yes, We Can! perhaps? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trvsdrlng (talk • contribs) 15:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Very weak support even with Artichoke-Boy's link. It just sounds really, really bland. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:01, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Infinitesimally Small Teeny Tiny Microscopic Practically Unnoticable Because It's Smaller Than A Quark Support of Artichoke-Boy's first link. The connection to Wikipedia makes it barely palatable, but the quote itself is just so... well, bland, as La Pianista said.  I can't muster up anything more that sub-sub-atomic support.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Yeah, late night out, so wet, it's so tight.
I felt like putting a lyric out. The lyric is from T.I.'s Whatever You Like. If this is too sexually explict, automatically take this off. -- <font face="Chiller" size="3"> K. Annoyomous 24 [c] 01:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Aha oppose - too inappropriate for MOTD.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 01:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * changed word to out. -- <font face="Chiller" size="3"> K. Annoyomous 24 [c] 02:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Support - Wikipedia is not censored. If it is a decent motto with decent links (which I think it is), we should not refrain from running it just because some people think it might be offensive.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Wikipedia is not censored. However, we must have some common sense. It's not terribly inappropriate, but I still don't like the idea if putting this on people's userpages. Aside from that, the links make very little sense to me. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Julian. &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 19:02, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Julian.Alex Jackl (talk) 18:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * :-P Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 16:30, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Permanent markers almost never makes a permanent marking.
Don't even ask me how I got this. -- <font face="Comic Sans MS">  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 02:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't really get the quote, and the first link doesn't make much sense. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Weak Support (changed per edits) - Wikipedia is anything but permanent. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 04:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Uhh yeah, that's what I'm saying. Wikipedia never makes a permanent edit. -- <font face="Chiller" size="3"> K. Annoyomous 24 [c] 04:22, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's true (just took a second look). But still, if you think of it as a real-life situation (Believe me, I once dropped a Sharpie on my brand-new, perfectly-fitted tee - not nice), it doesn't really apply. I kind of get the message now, but the links still don't click for me. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 04:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Better? -- <font face="Chiller" size="3"> K. Annoyomous 24 [c] 05:02, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, not quite (it kinda made it worse). Sorry. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 19:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * How about now? -- <font face="Chiller" size="3"> K. Annoyomous 24 [c] 00:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * A tad better, but I'm still leaning on neutral. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 20:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose I don't really get it. Somewhat bland, as well. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  17:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support: I guess it works. But then, even a good edit is not permanent in Wikipedia. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

You can't just sit there and watch everything happen!
I have no idea where this came from. But it sounds cool. Omgomgomg888 (talk) 01:06, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - I see how it relates to Wikipedia, but some links to make it more clear would improve the motto, I think. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:41, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. I agree with Nutiketaiel...add some links! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

All the world's a stage, and all the men and women players
Shakespeare again...this time it hopefully hasn't been used! ;) Best, --Cameron* 20:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Question: Are you planning this for any particular date? The Special Nominations section is for mottos that are oriented for a specific date, otherwise they should go in In Review. Thanks. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 00:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Feel free to be bold when it comes to me, I'm frightfully muddle headed. ;) --Cameron* 17:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - It's not bad. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:05, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. This isn't too bad, will probably boost a few self-esteems if given the go-ahead :). <font face="Matura MT Script Capitals" size="3"> Blooded Edge  Sign/Talk 21:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: To be accurate, shouldn't it be "all the men and women merely players"? &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 21:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose - doesn't really do much for me.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

=== → A few Cobras in your home will soon clear it of Rats and Mice. Of course, you will still have the Cobras. === I got this looking through some of the past Wikiquote quotes of the day. Hopefully it is not too long. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 21:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I like it. Clever and funny.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: Clever. Nicely linked too. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  00:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose Clever indeed, but a troll can hardly rid you of vandalism and spam, but rather increases it. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  00:53, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per Juliancolton.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:25, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Change the first link to WP:EDIT, and that's not the exact wording IIRC. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support if the first link is changed as suggested above by Juliancolton and if the quote itself is corrected. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The source of this quote is actually unknown, according to Wikiquote's entry on Laozi (who I thought originally said it). I did fix the wording, though. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:40, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - the links are not good.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

You do not fail through loosing, you fail through giving up.
This quote has been slightly changed, as I cannot remember the exact words painted on the wall of my school's football changing rooms. But still, the meaning is there. I thought I would make it clear to hopefulls out there, that going down in a RfA does not necessarily mean the end of the world. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, no matter how dim it is. <font face="Matura MT Script Capitals" size="3"> Blooded Edge  Sign/Talk 17:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: Shouldn't it be losing instead of loosing? &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 19:16, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - He got it off the wall of a football locker room; did you expect the spelling to be accurate? I support pending the spelling correction.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:34, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: But the link makes it look like RFA is losing (I mean RFA=losing). Can it be given any other way? C h a m a l    Talk   ±  16:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

in favour of Edit 2. Simply south (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

You do not fail through losing, you fail through giving up.
Fixed the spelling mistake that was bugging everyone. Please feel free to reach a concensus now :). Chamal, I wasn't saying that anyone trying to RfA themselves will fail. I was just targetting those who have already failed, and retire or whatever as a result. Excessive and un-necessary drama in my opinion. <font face="Chiller" size="5"> Blooded Edge  Sign/Talk 11:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per edit two.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

You do not fail through losing, you fail through giving up
Edit 2.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - I was just wishing there was a link to that. :) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 02:16, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support I like it! One of my mottos... Alex Jackl (talk)
 * Strong Support - Truly excellent links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ Edit 2 per consensus (just). Simply south (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

In some cases…less is more!
A quote about redirects in Wikipedia. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 21:47, 1 October 2008 (UTC) per consensus. Simply south (talk) 14:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose Nothing wrong with it per se, but it's not very interesting... –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  15:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - It doesn't say much, but it might be passable ona slow news day. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:35, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - it's nothing special, no offense.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:30, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose Not terrible but not great! Alex Jackl (talk)

To be or not to be, that is the question
Source: Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, although it's already been used. Does that matter? I think it's quite a good one anyway. Cameron* 18:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Huh? Mottos are supposed to have some relevancy to Wikipedia. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:09, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I forgot the links...it's my first time ;). --Cameron* 20:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak support That's ok, it looks good now. I usually don't like to have repeat mottos, but I'll support. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  20:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose Used already. I'm just following the rules. If it wasn't used, I would've have it a weak support. -- <font face="Comic Sans MS">  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 01:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but aren't we allowed to reuse mottos? --Cameron* 12:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not a hard and fast rule, but usually old ones are not used again unless there is a special reason. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  12:29, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * De facto director's note: Historically, mottos have not been reused. There have been five recent exceptions: the mottos for August 26-30 2008 were "re-runs" from several days in June 2006, because there wasn't enough participation here then to justify using any of these mottos. Now that activity is back up (thank you all!!) I would encourage the use of new, original mottos whenever possible. However, if editors are willing to invoke WP:IAR in the event they particularly like a given motto, that is perfectly acceptable and it will be scheduled if there is a sufficient consensus after 14 days. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks director. ;) I'll be more inventive next time. --Cameron* 19:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Support WP:IAR! I'm sure no one will notice :D <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 11:33, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support The motto is good. Not really happy about repeating though, since we are not currently short of nominations or anything like that C h a m a l    Talk   ±  12:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - Nothing wrong with the motto itself, but I really don't think we should be repeating them. Not for another few years, at least.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose per this.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 10:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * iOppose (I suppose everyone can guess per whom). &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 21:36, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC) <hr style="width:50%;"/>
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Matty4123 (talk) 20:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose - FUI. Simply south (talk) 20:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * per FUI 86.165.61.2 (talk) 16:12, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

=== Watch your thoughts, for they become your words. Watch your words, for they become your actions. Watch your actions, for they become your habits. Watch your habits, for they become your character. Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny. === This is a favorite quote of mine, that I think can be very well used to illustrate the benefits of following certain policies and the disadvantages of ignoring them. Unfortunately, I've gotten myself stuck and I can't think of links for the remaining lines. Help! <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 03:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Here is a suggestion for one line. What do you think of Watch your habits, for they become your character? Simply south (talk) 18:54, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment: How about Watch your habits, for they become your character? Also, the last line "Watch your character, for is becomes your destiny." should be "Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny." &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 19:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support with the suggested links by Simply South. I really like this quote.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:30, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support It's a good motto, but don't you think it's a little too long?-- Spittle spat!  <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA">ǀ T  ♦  C  ♦  S  15:29, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support: But we need to work on it before we put it up. I'm out of ideas right now, though :) As for the length, I don't think that will be a problem. If we can do template mottos, then we can definitely manage long mottos. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:33, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've added the links suggested by Simply South (thanks!), fixed "is" to "it", and added WP:FA as the link for "character/destiny". <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 18:14, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong support with the links from Simply South. Excellent ending as well - I wondered what you'd put for destiny, but it's an excellent ending. It doesn't matter if it's a bit long - definitely one of my favourite mottos so far. ≈  The Haunted Angel  17:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * STRONG SUPPORT. A great motto. It works really well with all the transitioning links, and I love the "character" to "destiny" ending! Maybe it's a little long, but it still works. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ for Motto of the day/November 29, 2008 per consensus. Matty4123 (talk) 20:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

It's raining, it's pouring. The old man is snoring.
Has this been used yet? ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment Good, good, and then a horrible one. Doesn't have consistency. I recommend you change some links. -- <font face="Comic Sans MS">  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 02:14, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support-- LAA Fan sign review 21:13, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose:Nah... I don't get what you mean. La   Al qu im  is ta  03:35, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The links are non-sensical. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:47, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support: The rest are OK I guess, but I don't understand why 'it's raining' is linked to What is an article? C h a m a l    Talk   ±  15:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose - wha?  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:41, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 20:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Actions are louder than words
A parent's philosophy. H2H (talk) 07:38, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support I thought the saying was "Actions speak louder than words"? <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 10:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I think if I used "speak", it will be kinda' wrong; &#91;H2H&#93; (talk) 13:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - The current links seem to imply that it is better to rollback than other forms of reverting, which is not the case when the previous change was not obvious vandalism. What the motto makes me think of is the   template. I suggest changing it to: "Actions speak louder than words." --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 16:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose. In principle, there isn't actually much difference between rollback or undo. To be honest, it would be better to switch the two links around in your motto, as undo actually allows you to leave a comment. <font face="Matura MT Script Capitals" size="3"> Blooded Edge  Sign/Talk 20:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 11:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Actions speak louder than words
Changed rom the original. &#91;H2H&#93; (talk) 21:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - I don't really like the links. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose ...Rollback is undoing. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  15:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose: It looks a bit like saying "always use rollback" for even good faith edits. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  12:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Both to be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 11:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

→ I know this crush ain’t going away.
From David Archuleta's new song, Crush.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 02:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Cute. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 02:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - It's OK, I suppose, though I don't understand what "Crush" means in this context. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support I agree with above, you would have to know the song to understand it fully, but it seems fine. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. It's a nice and innocent motto...but maybe if you changed the arrow-link to "Crush (David Archuleta song)" from just David Archuleta it would be better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Artichoke-Boy (talk • contribs) 14:12, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ for Motto of the day/November 28, 2008 per consensus. Matty4123 (talk) 11:43, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

→Recycling: Are you doing your bit?
Two causes I feel quite strongly about. BeL1EveR (talk) 17:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - The links are very appropriate. Nutiketaiel (talk) 02:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I bet this would spur on a few users into action. <font face="Matura MT Script Capitals" size="3"> Blooded Edge  Sign/Talk 20:44, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I like it! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 16:02, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - and the links go ding-ding-ding! :D &mdash;<font face="Century Gothic"> La Pianista (T•C•S) 18:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ for Motto of the day/November 27, 2008 per consensus. Matty4123 (talk) 11:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

→ I am a rock star I got my rock moves And I don’t want you tonight!
From Pink's new song, So What?  iMa tth ew   (talk) 02:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Support Fantastique, very nice. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 02:21, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Very humerous.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Great idea. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support: I'm seeing a lot of cool mottos tonight ;) C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:03, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Catchy and funny! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ for Motto of the day/November 26, 2008 per consensus. Matty4123 (talk) 11:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Up, up and away!
Simply south (talk) 23:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Didn't we just have this? –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Just found a previous version (approved) from June 2007 but it didn't quite have these links so it is slightly different, and i didn't realise. Simply south (talk) 21:46, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Oppose - We should not be reusing quotes until one of them is reproduced by a room full of monkeys. Nutiketaiel (talk)
 * Strong oppose - no re-using - we need to be a more creative project.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 18:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it does kill brain cells, but only the weak ones.
-- LAA Fan sign review 02:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC) ✅ for Motto of the day/November 25, 2008 per consensus Matty4123 (talk) 18:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose I don't get it, sorry! –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  02:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - It's funny, and makes good sense. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong support (lol'd) - pending grammar fixing "does kills" to "does kill." &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 04:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong support That's funny, true and even reflects my view on vandals! BlackCat (Speak!) 11:49, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support: I like the idea. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Ha Ha Ha! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Bwahaha!!! - Support! <span style="font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;color:steelblue;">X clamation point  21:47, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Edit fresh
Subway slogan, but changed eat to edit. -- <font face="Comic Sans MS">  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 07:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Boring. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't get what you mean by boring. I think it's great. -- <font face="Comic Sans MS">  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 01:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It doesn't strike me as clever, interesting, or inspirational. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  14:45, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak support Okay, I guess. BTW, the arrow goes to a disambig. &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S • R ) 23:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed the disambiguation. -- <font face="Comic Sans MS">  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 23:43, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Very boring. It's not even ripping off a good advertising slogan.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - and a yawn.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:26, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Help improve the good, or help remove the bad…either way, you’re helping!
Something that I just came up with about how you can help in Wikipedia. Artichoke-Boy (talk) 19:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support - The word "help" at the beginning makes it a bit redundant, but other than that, it is a fine motto. --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 23:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ...and before "remove the bad". I would fully support as: "Improve the good or remove the bad... either way, you're helping!" --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 21:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - I support it as is, but if the only way to reach consensus is to remove the first two "help"s, then I'll support that, too. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:05, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support with the change to "Improve the good, or help remove the bad, either way, you're helping!"  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:25, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'm sure Matt means "remove the bad." Just clarifying. :) &mdash; La Pianista ( T • C • S ) 02:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, yeah. I fixed it - thanks La Pianista.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 11:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ version Improve the good or help remove the bad... either way, you're helping! per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Something tells me I'm into something good
Simply south (talk)

Or alternatively
 * Oppose Link isn't very good. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  17:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Something tells me I'm into something good
Simply south (talk) 22:22, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak support Bland, but I suppose there's nothing wrong with it. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  17:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - OK, it lacks zip, but it's a good sentiment, and I love things that remind people about Barnstars. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:09, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support.Good enough! Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak weak support per Juliancolton.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:23, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ per consensus (just). Simply south (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

→ In America, through pressure of conformity, there is freedom of choice, but nothing to choose from.
--88wolfmaster (talk) 21:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I can't say this one really jumps out at me. The links aren't that great, either.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 22:47, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose It's rather contradictory, and we have editors from all over the world, not just the US. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 06:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose as per above. Users are from all over the world and will not identify themselves with the motto.--Shahab (talk) 08:00, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * STRONG SUPPORT Not being american is irrelevant - I'm english and i related to it. Its not like so-called "freedom of choice" is unique to america. great motto and makes a lot of sense with the links - works really well. is it a quote ? where from ? Machete97 (talk) 22:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * comment yeah its a quote by Peter Ustinov its linked above.--88wolfmaster (talk) 05:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

- No consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

→ Through pressure of conformity, there is freedom of choice, but nothing to choose from.
Removed the America part. --88wolfmaster (talk) 05:28, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I still don't like it. It never bothered me that it referenced America; I just didn't like the links and I didn;t like the quote.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:45, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I suppose it is better like this - still a great motto thought and the links are very relevant Machete97 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 10:12, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose I think this whole quote doesn't say the things good about Wikipedia as of the last part of the quote. -- <font face="Comic Sans MS">  K. Annoyomous 24  [c] 06:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose No offense, but nothing really great here.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Both to be reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 10:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

- No consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Justice does not come from the outside. It comes from inner peace.
--88wolfmaster (talk) 21:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose It makes it sound like only administrators can bring good. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  22:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - I like the quote, but not the links. If you can find some more appropriate ones...  Nutiketaiel (talk) 22:51, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - I agree with Juliancolton's concern, perhaps if it linked to AIV instead of admin? Stardust8212 13:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 10:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Justice does not come from the outside. It comes from inner peace.
✅ Switched link to AVI as per Stardust8212. --88wolfmaster (talk) 17:25, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Support: I suppose it works, but it doesn't really jump out at me :) C h a m a l    Talk   ±  12:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks better this way. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - it doesn't say much for me.  iMa tth ew   (talk) 22:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

To be reopened - not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) 10:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Few Mistakes Fix Themselves
Paul, in Saudi (talk) 22:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan sign review 16:55, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. What about if you changed it to "Few Mistakes Fix Themselves", or something like that, so it'll be more related to Wikipedia? Artichoke-Boy (talk) 20:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support the link suggested by Artichoke Boy. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support if the link is added. C h a m a l    Talk   ±  14:12, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Support with link added - Matty4123 (talk) 19:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)