Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 31

→ Crisis = danger + opportunity
~ A H  1 (TCU) 15:01, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - As I'm Chinese! :D Derild  49  21  ☼  15:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - true. Simply south (talk) 17:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Not always true, but...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:36, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - The quote is derived from the Chinese words for crisis which is 危机. While the first character means danger, the second means opportunity which basically can be read to mean with every danger comes an opportunity. Derild  49  21  ☼  21:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm aware of that, but Al Gore basically popularized it. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:32, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Just in reply as some people may not understand it. Derild  49  21  ☼  00:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - good motto. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   09:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - not always true, but catchy. ;) Kindly, Esther Clementina   talk  12:07, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 22, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

→ All you have to do is ask.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 15:01, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - I would change the first link to something like WP:NEWBIE. IF you do that, I'll support.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:34, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - the motto is fine, but Edit 1 is better. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   09:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

→ All you have to do is ask.
Edit 1, suggestion. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:23, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - This is the best version, but I think it would be more suitable to link 'ask' to or something, because then you're literally 'asking' for help.  WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   10:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Thank you for that change. The motto is fine now.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 16:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - nice quote, good links. Esther Clementina   talk  00:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 21, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

→ How can I go forward when I don't know which way I'm facing?
This is basically telling you to go to WP:RD when you don't know how to go foward.  Simon KSK  23:17, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * NO - First link is bad. Try again.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: What about using Why create an account? (shortcut: WP:WHY) for the first link? New contributors' help page or User:Fox/Virtual classroom could be good alternatives for the second link, but WP:RD works fine too. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:44, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

→ How can I go forward when I don't know which way I'm facing?
Edit per Pjoef.  Simon KSK  20:16, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Quite a bit better.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support, of course. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:23, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - 67.142.173.23 (talk) 23:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Edit 1 for December 20, 2010. Unanimous support.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ I go out to work on Monday morning. Tuesday, I go off to honeymoon. I'll be back again before it's time for sunny down. I'll be lazing on a Sunday afternoon. Bicycling on every Wednesday evening! Thursday, I go waltzing to the zoo. I come from a London town, I'm just an ordinary guy. Fridays, I go painting in the louvre. I'm bound to be proposing on a Saturday night, I'll be lazing on a Sunday afternoon!=== Slightly modified lyrics from Queen's Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon. Can anyone think of any links for "honeymoon", "before it's time for sunny down" and "London town"? Anyway, I don't know about you guys, but I love it. :P   Simon KSK  18:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Neutral - Seems sort of bizarre...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support/Neutral ~ I see the "honeymoon" as a holiday/vacation, so WP:Wikibreak seems to be the best link for it, but it is used in the following line: "lazing on a Sunday afternoon". –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:32, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I think it's fine. Derild  49  21  ☼  18:36, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Good idea, although it is a little big haphazard and long-winded. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 18:58, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Original for December 19, 2010. Consensus appears to be in favor; no actual opposes.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 16:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

→ It's a perfectly cromulent word.
Mrs Krabappel use of a neologism has surprisingly never been used on MOTD. Stephen! Coming... 14:34, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems to work.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:22, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:05, 17 August 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Original for December 17, 2010. Unanimous approval.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ And on this branch there was a twig, The prettiest twig that you ever did see, Well the twig on the branch, And the branch on the tree, And the tree on the root, And the root in the hole, And the hole in the ground, And the green grass grew all around and around, And the green grass grew all around.=== How's this?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:06, 13 August 2010 (UTC) *Strong support - I love it! --Smaug123 (talk) 07:45, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Ha, ha, ha. Face-smile-big.svg. WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 03:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * groan but it works :P sonia  ♫  03:46, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support uggh so long... And you killed the edit summary! Derild  49  21  ☼  support edit 1 [[User:Derild4921|Derild ]] 49  21  ☼  19:30, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - A Featured Topic is part of a Featured Image? Fix that, and I'll support.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:21, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → And on this branch there was a twig, The prettiest twig that you ever did see, Well the twig on the branch, And the branch on the tree, And the tree on the root, And the root in the hole, And the hole in the ground, And the green grass grew all around and around, And the green grass grew all around. ==== Edit 1 per Hi878 (with Portal:Featured content insted of Featured pictures for "tree"; Portal:Contents works fine too.) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:12, 17 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Strong support - see previous comment. --Smaug123 (talk) 18:38, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Better version Derild  49  21  ☼  22:20, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Thank you. This works.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:26, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → And on this branch there was a twig, The prettiest twig that you ever did see, Well the twig on the branch, And the branch on the tree, And the tree on the root, And the root in the hole, And the hole in the ground, And the green grass grew all around and around, And the green grass grew all around. ==== Heh... I meant P:FP, not WP:FP. Don't mind edits 1 or 2 though.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:44, 20 August 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Edit 1 for December 16, 2010. Unanimous support for that one. The original had some problems, and Edit 2 appears to be the same as Edit 1.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Not trying is the same thing as failing.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 17:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good message.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:20, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:13, 17 August 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Original for December 15, 2010. Unanimous approval.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:39, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Every dog has his day
A book and a song to highlight us poor under appreciated admins (feel free to break into violin playing) do get appreciated by some! Stephen! Coming... 20:36, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Hah! Good one. Funny, and he links work. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't think what Rlevse wants to do is award every admin a day.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:07, 30 July 2010 (UTC)


 * - Not enough discussion  ℳ ono   02:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:14, 17 August 2010 (UTC)


 * - No consensus.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia FTW!
~ A H  1 (TCU) 17:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - It reminds me of MOTD in 2006. Not sure if that's a good thing, but it works.  Simon KSK  18:01, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - just appears to be a link rather than a motto, and I have no idea what FTW stands for (can't see it on the link page either). Stephen! Coming... 14:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * For The Win.  Simon KSK  14:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers for explaining; never come across that acronym before. Is it a common one?  Still opposing, as I don't think it works, linking it to itself. Stephen! Coming... 17:25, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Reminds me of the horrible fundraising banner from a few years back. ( X! ·  talk )  · @842  · 19:12, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - It's not a motto. At least, not that I can see. Rock drum Ba-dumCrash (Review me) 19:30, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - How could I argue with X!? But I would have opposed anyway, I think. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:19, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * per consensus WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 23:38, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Veni, vidi, veni. Et veni, et veni, et veni.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 14:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ... - What?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:41, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. It's actually a Latinized version of a quote from Uncyclopedia: "I came, I saw, I came. And came, and came, and came." A play on veni, vidi, vici. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 21:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I doubt that anyone who sees this will understand. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It sounds like you cummed everytime you did something. "came" is sometimes internet slang for "cummed". Sounds a bit nasty. I oppose.  Simon KSK  23:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Extremely Strong Oppose - I hadn't thought of what Simon said... Makes sense that it came from Uncyclopedia.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. It's supposed to be humourous, but perhaps a bit overdone. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose. Now, I haven't really thought of what SimonKSK said - that's really news to me. And once I understood what Simon meant, well, the 'assess' page made me think of something else. :( And even without this, the motto still does not make much sense. I read, I created a new page, and I edited. Then I assessed Wikipedia, then a GA, then an FA. Not to mention that this is in FUI.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 06:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I think the quote is kind of neat, but it's really confusing, especially with the links. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 03:02, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Extremely Super Extra Strong Oppose per Simon. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 19:01, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Are we transforming the motto of the day to the hot phrase of the day? Anyway, I like it. What about adding the translation into English? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:07, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I don't really see what's wrong with it... Derild  49  21  ☼  18:38, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * - No consensus  1 year     03:20, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Question I know I'm new to this area, but I must admit I am curious as to how 5 opposes compared with 2 supports counts as "No consensus"? Especially as the rather unfortunate double meaning could potentially land us in hot water with the community. (BTW - I oppose because of the afore mentioned double meaning) Stephen! Coming... 23:16, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

per WP:FUI\WP:SNOW. Simply south (talk) 11:23, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ All you create, all you destroy, all that you do, all that you say, all that you eat and everyone you meet. All that you slight and everyone you fight. All that is now, all that is gone, all that's to come and everything under the sun is in tune. === Thoughts?  Simon KSK  17:09, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - except WP:NOW's a bit strange.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, a better link would be nice.  Simon KSK  16:46, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Great! Though you killed the edit summary as well. Derild  49  21  ☼  14:21, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Very good. I think WP:NOW works, just because it seems kind of odd. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: why not using Today's featured article/picture/motto, Portal:Current events, Template:Current or Special:Newpages for "NOW"? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

War isn't about who's right, but about who's left
Well, this is my first attempt... hoe I've done this right! I first saw this in a Mad magazine about 20 years ago, attributed to Alfred E Neuman. I've taken the original meaning of the quote, and reversed the meanings of "left" and "right". Stephen! Coming... 21:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - This is a pretty well-known quote, so this might have been already approved. Welcome, BTW.  Simon KSK  21:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, this motto hasn't been used before.  Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  22:35, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - A litle shaky, but it mostly works.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - does not make that much sense to me...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:38, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - As Hi878 says, mostly works.  ℳ ono   17:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per weak consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ My roots lie not in any Earthly nation's soil.
Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  22:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - First, I don't quite think that this would be true with that link. Second, just one link isn't goood enough with a quote like this.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:17, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I agree - WP's servers are in Florida IIRC.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:22, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - I like the idea behind this but with only one link it's a bit boring. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   11:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: What about using Copyrights (shortcut: WP:C) for the last part? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:04, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ My roots lie not in any Earthly nation's soil.
Edit 1 I just know that Simon is going to grill at me for this. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  18:31, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Two ways to take this. One, my roots don't lie in any earthy nations soil, but in Wikipedia, which isn't very true; I'm pretty sure my roots are in America. The second way to interpret this is that my roots don't lie in Wikipedia, which may be true, but isn't exactly what we want for a motto.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 18:37, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - completely agree with Hi878.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ My roots lie not in any Earthly nation's soil.
Edit 2 per Pjoef (I can't believe I didn't think of that before!) Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  18:02, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - This one is most certainly better.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:32, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong support - but it would be ideal if there's a link to WP's licence.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

(ALL VERSIONS; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:29, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Edit 2. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:29, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Cast the die.
Pun of the latin phrase Alea iacta est (the die is cast), said at the Crossing of the Rubicon, when Suetonius entered Italy in defiance and began a long civil war, a point of no return. Quinxorin (talk) 22:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose- this motto has no relevance to Wikipedia. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  22:06, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The link just links to the page about the quote. I've added the → and my own idea.   Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:10, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose per above.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 23:27, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per above. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   17:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

in favoue of edit 1'. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Cast the die.
Edit 1 This seems to work. Did I get the → right? Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 22:10, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment maybe, but is it meaningful?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 23:27, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: I recall pjoef having nominated a similar one before as 'The die is cast'.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 23:27, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, And I opposed it. I just looked, and saw that it was saying that Arbcom decisions were permanent, or something like that.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:32, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Was it actually used? PrincessofLlyr  royal court 23:38, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope. It was unanimous opposes.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:40, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Which means there is no reason this one can't be used. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 23:50, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note I just realized that this is supposed to be a pun, so there shouldn't be a →, so I removed it. If I've misinterpreted something, please fix that. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:32, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure - I like it. — m o n o   23:46, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I happen to like random things. And perhaps it will cause someone to come across an article that needs improvement and do something about it. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 23:50, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Me likes it! Derild  49  21  ☼  00:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - how has random page got anything to do with Cast the die? WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   17:38, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Casting the die comes up with a random result...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:44, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply - Still not very clear to me. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   08:34, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's really not too hard to figure it out. When you throw a die, a random number shows. When you press Special:Random, a random article shows.  Simon KSK  14:03, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

(BOTH VERSIONS; no consensus; Original: 1 in support and 4 opposed; Edit 1: 4 in support and 2 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Support Edit 1 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:25, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months.
I can't believe that nobdy thought of this before... And what's more, that I didn't think of this before D-Day. :) -- Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - heh, does that mean we are articles and we need to become FACs? Plus, we to edians is, like Simon likes to say, very unoriginal.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:25, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No... its like this, Wikipedians are addressing the non-FA articles who are about to embark upon the great crusade of WP:FAC. I am not sure about the relevance of 'striven for many months' to Wikipedia.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  22:11, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that part would be relevant; sometimes (usually, actually) an article is worked on for months before it can be an FA.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:14, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral per my comment above.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  22:11, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - A bit too bland for me. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   17:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3 Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

====→ You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months.==== Edit 1 - I know it doesn't work well but I'm trying to juggle around with the idea, if anyone can work out a way to make this work try using these links: WP:NCH and WP:HELP. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook  18:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Last link=bad. I've got another idea, though.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply - I know it doesn't make much sense, I was just trying to juggle around with the ideas. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   08:38, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3 Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months.
Edit 2 ~ Is this any better than before? Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 21:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - I especially like the last link but I think that the second link is very dull, why do loads of mottos link to FA or FAC? WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   08:37, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral don't like the second link either. I've got another one down there...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3 Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months.
Edit 3 ~  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - I don't think that this motto is much more different from the other version, it still links to Featured 'something', just no longer FA and now FC. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   12:34, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - per WVRMad, although if I had to pick one, I like FAC better than this one.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 18:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

(ALL VERSIONS no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Edit 3. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:20, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ edit 3 per weak consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

A Camel is a Horse designed by committee.
Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  16:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - An article isn't a sandbox. I have a better idea.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:13, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:24, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per above. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   08:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * - Consensus to reject in favor of another edit. ℳ ono   21:14, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

A Camel is a Horse designed by committee.
Edit 1 ~ Maybe this works better? Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 21:13, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - not to be too nit-picking here, but a lot of articles don't start out as stubs.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:21, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Question: Is there a source? I kind of like it.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  01:25, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply- There is no source; it is a common saying. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  03:16, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It has been attributed to Vogue magazine, July 1958, to Sir Alec Issigonis and also to University of Wisconsin philosophy professor Lester Hunt. (See: Design by committee, and Re: A camel is a horse designed by committee –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, the reason why I said that is because Wikiquote classified this saying under "Anonymous". Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  18:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - the chances of a stub making it to FA is extremely low. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   08:41, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

A Camel is a Horse designed by committee.
Edit 2 does this make more sense? Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  16:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - Well, GA works better than STUB, definitely.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 18:18, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ my favourite of the three. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:52, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - however, whether an article is a GA is decided by one reviewer, not the community.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply that's very true, but the community can work together to improve the article so it can be GA or FA. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  18:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

(ALL VERSIONS; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:14, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

*Support Edit 2. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:14, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ Fear less, hope more; Whine less, breathe more; Talk less, say more; Hate less, love more; And all good things are yours.=== ~ A H  1 (TCU) 00:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * weak oppose - deleting is whining?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:07, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. Focusing on deletion could be analogous to whining. But this was one of my weaker links, have a better one? ~ A H  1 (TCU) 02:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - I've got some ideas.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - some links don't work at the moment while others are great, I think with a little bit of juggling around it could become a great motto. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   12:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

====→ Fear less, hope more; Whine less, breathe more; Talk less, say more; Hate less, love more; And all good things are yours.==== Edit 1 ~ And here they are. Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 05:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral and Suggestions - It's better than the original but I'm not sure about the last link to WP:READER, as the motto is talking about you contributing to Wikipedia and linking WP:CRUFT with talking. How about having WP:BITE less, WP:WEL more and WP:BUILDER less, WP:PUTEFFORT more? WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   12:28, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I like this one better. :) You can nominate those, though. Just so that there are more options.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 18:18, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'm a bit more and less, less and more confused. There are too many "less" and "more". WVRMAD, please, post your version below, so I'll get it. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

(BOTH VERSIONS; no consensus;) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:12, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

=== → Memento mori ("Remember your mortality") === No comment, it speaks for itself! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support it's good.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 06:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support. Never heard of that Wikiproject before, but WikiProject Life is actually a tree of life and is completely different yet not polar opposite, may be a bit morbid for some but it's a good place to focus attention in the sense that it's a broad subject. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 00:30, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Perhaps a bit glooomy...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per weak consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ The opposite of love, I have found, is not hate, but indifference.
Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  20:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Strong oppose - Obvious links, and there's nothing original about it.  Simon KSK  20:13, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Doesn't make sense at all. Opposite of Love is Hate IMHO.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  23:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose first, we are having too many love quotes. Secondly, by not linking indifference, you're missing the whole point of the quote.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 23:45, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * oppose with regret - the quote is true, very, very true, but the links are simply too obvious/frequently used. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 13:30, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support ~ IMHO it needs a link for "indifference". –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What about: Divisiveness for "indifference"? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Needs a link at the end. I'll nominate Pjoef's idea.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:41, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ The opposite of love, I have found, is not hate, but indifference.
Edit 1 ~ Per Pjoef. Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 04:41, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * This version definitely gets my STRONG SUPPORT!!! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:52, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Question what has divisiveness to do with indifference?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply: Yes, you're right, the two words have not the same meaning, but think of a married couple living together legally, but divided because of their mutual indifference. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

(BOTH VERSIONS; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Misfortune shows those who are not really friends.
Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  20:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - people who have been previously blocked can become great editors in the future.  Kayau  Voting   IS   evil 23:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - reconsidered, because this doesn't really make much sense.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support (moved to Edit 1) per Kayau. This phrase is so good that (IMHO) deserves a better set of links. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:39, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Would replacing WP:VAND with TROLL be a better link in your opinion?  Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  17:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Re: Yes, I think that TROLL is the best choice. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:02, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Vandalism is the misfortune, not the block.  Could be reworked but I'm not sure how.  --khfan93 (t) (c) 03:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per khfan93, if you've been blocked then you've probably been doing continuous or strong vandalism or a sock puppet or something - you probably deserved to be blocked. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   13:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Blocked people have become helpful editors.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:39, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support, to illustrate a POINT - I have been blocked, early on...  ℳ ono   21:16, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Misfortune shows those who are not really friends.
Edit 1 per khfan93. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  15:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral Not all vandals are trolls, and they can become helpful.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:39, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ If a vandal can become a good editor, BEEPING trolls always deserve "the worst of the worst." –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:02, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - trolls can turn good.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Misfortune shows those who are not really friends.
Edit 2 also per khfan93. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  15:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Almost... - Not sure what to think of this, becuase people have vandalized and then become helpful editors.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:39, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose vandals can turn good.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:11, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

(ALL VERSIONS; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC) - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Hey jude, don't make it bad. Take a sad song and make it better.
Simple links, I know. Suggestions would be very welcome.  Simon KSK  18:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support for two reasons: equating stubs with sad is a bit strange and b) stubs usually have little potential to be expanded too much, especially those one-sentence species articles; maybe WP:DEV will be better?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 23:55, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't you think stubs would be sad if they knew they weren't big informative FA articles? D: Don't know about WP:DEV, but go for it.  Simon KSK  00:16, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 *  Support  ~ "Article development" (WP:DEV) can be an alternative for the last link. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Would WP:BOLD be a better link than WP:EDIT? ~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose and Suggestion - I oppose this partly per Kayau, stubs are not likely to make it to FA status, partly because too many mottos link to FA and partly because I don't see how the first line has anything to do with the second, it saying don't vandalise while the second is saying take a stub and edit it dramatically until it's improved. Perhaps the first line should be taken out. As for the second line, I would suggest that the link for sad song is replaced with Requested articles, Articles for creation or Most wanted articles instead of just WP:STUB. I like the idea of having WP:DEV for either make or better. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   14:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Stubs aren't sad.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1' Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Hey Jude, don't make it bad. Take a sad song and make it better.
Edit 1, suggestion. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Great!  Simon KSK  14:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support In favor of mine.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support they're not really related...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ per weak consensus. Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Hey Jude, don't make it bad. Take a sad song and make it better.
Edit 2, suggestion. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - If some is going to retire from Wikipedia they're probably not going to be creating requested articles any time soon. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   13:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This is saying not to retire.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Almost there... I almost like this one. I have improved on it below.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't think we should discourage retirement because many people retire because of personal matters.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1' Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Hey Jude, don't make it bad. Take a sad song and make it better.
Edit 3, suggestion. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - I don't quite think that this woud work, because it is saying to develop a wikiproject and turn it into featured content... But maybe I'm being to picky?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - either this one or below.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1' Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Hey Jude, don't make it bad. Take a sad song and make it better.
Edit 4 ~ I have, in my opinion, improved on Edit 2. The last link makes a bit more sense now, I think. I also changed the first. Hopefully, you will all like this one. :) Inflating my ego, and all that.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - either this one or above.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

(ALL VERSIONS; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support EDIT 4 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:55, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1' Simply south (talk) 17:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Toto, I've (got) a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.
Dorothy Gale portrayed by Judy Garland in The Wizard of Oz (1939) directed by Victor Fleming, Mervyn LeRoy, Richard Thorpe, and King Vidor; written by Noel Langley, Florence Ryerson, Edgar Allan Woolf, and L. Frank Baum; starring Judy Garland, Frank Morgan, Ray Bolger, Bert Lahr, Jack Haley, Billie Burke, Margaret Hamilton, Charley Grapewin, Clara Blandick; music composed by Herbert Stothart, Harold Arlen, and E. Y. Harburg; cinematography by Harold Rosson; editing by Blanche Sewell. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: The first time I visited Commons, WikiNews, WikiQuote... I felt like Dorothy. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:41, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - it does't make sense to me. I've also closed your italics in your comment, if you don't mind.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 06:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Thanks for fixing it! Well, you know, this is from The Wizard of Oz when Dorothy and Toto are leaving/have left Kansas. So I thought to link it to Wikipedia's sister projects. This is something that happens to us all, for example in the See also or External links sections when you click on Wikiquote or Commons templates, and on the Wikipedia's sister projects section at the bottom of the main page here in the English Wikipedia. Who is not aware of that (IMHO) can feel like Dorothy. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:27, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply - really, I'm not sure why anyone would be 'not aware' of that. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Re-Reply: Wikipedia is ranked number seven in the Alexa list of the top 500 websites on the WWW (of course). Its audience is composed by users who browse from school and work. Visitors to Wikipedia spend approximately five minutes per visit to the site and one minute per pageview. About 49% of visits to Wikipedia are bounces (one pageview only), and about the 50% of site visits are from search engines. Wikipedia Audience and Search Analytics at Alexa Also, think of all the newbies. They are new to Wikipedia. Why they should know about the sister projects?
 * Weak support. Somewhat humourous, but doesn't say that much about the project. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 00:35, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Per AH1.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Actually, I really like this. I've recently become more involved in some of the sister projects and the way they all sort of link together is really neat to me. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 17:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

(no consensus; 3-4 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong support - I happen to like when I click an interwiki link and end up in the completely wrong place. :)  ℳ ono   20:12, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Like it. sonia  ♫  23:40, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 7, 2010 (per consensus; 5-6 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

The king shouted, "Arise, ye warriors, and drive these fellows out of the woods!"
I made this up with anti-vandal links. It is kind of lame, though. AirplanePro RadioChecklistHi, there. 22:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Question - Is this a quote or an original motto you made up? Derild  49  21  ☼  22:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * made-up AirplanePro RadioChecklistHi, there. 23:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:15, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good orginal quote even if it is a bit lame. ;) Derild  49  21  ☼  00:39, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems good to me.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 6, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Aw, come on. The 5th is my birthday! JUST ONE OFF!!! WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 22:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Where do you want to edit today?
From a WP:ANI thread. Feel free to change the link, I couldn't think of a better one. ( X! ·  talk )  · @095  · 01:17, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - sorry, but it is not common practice to alter quotes.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Err yes it is. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It (apparently) wasn't years ago, when you first joined. But this is a lot later now. Nutiketaiel often opposed changed quotes.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:15, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * But that's Nutiket, not everyone else. I really don't see the problem with changing quotes a little bit. By the way, what happened to Nutiketiael? I miss him.  Simon KSK  14:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * He hasn't edited MOTD for a long while. In fact, he hasn't done much aside from a few gnoming edits and a new article. I was also on Wikibreak when he left...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 15:00, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support (arrow link removed).  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Simple, but it works.  Simon KSK  14:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Not much of a message, but it works. I do believe the practice is to remove the → when you modify a motto. At least, that's what I've done, and nobody argued, so I have done that.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support ~ I agree especially with Hi878. It is not really a motto, but it works. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like the message - short and sweet. As for this 'debate' over altering quotes, I thought it was common practice to improve them, not changing the original versions but creating Edit 1 and Edit 2 and so on. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   10:28, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * What is common practice in various edits is to change the links, not the actual quote. What we are talking about is if you attribute it when you have changed the quote to something other than a quote.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:55, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 12:55, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Good artists copy; great artists steal.
--  mo no so ck   02:03, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Funny, but I'm not sure that it's the message that we want to send. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:10, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - donating is not stealing...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:13, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It is an implied message: copyvio=bad, donate=good.  Ⓢ ock   16:58, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it doesn't work because the first phrase is "good", then "great". Which makes it seem that one is good but the other better. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 02:51, 8 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose - per above. (Kayau and my comment) PrincessofLlyr  royal court 02:51, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ A country that's divided surely will not stand. My past erased, no more disgrace. No more foolish naive stands. === Got to love Megadeth.-- Simon KSK  17:02, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - Some of the links are a little iffy... Mainly WP:POV and WP:NPA  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - I think it works.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:12, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - good, but some don't work. I especially don't like the last link as I read it to say that AGF is the "foolish naive stand". I don't like the WP:NPA link either. I think the idea of the quote and most of the linking is good, but not those two. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 02:55, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply - I think the foolish naive stands are ABF.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:17, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with Hi878: WP:NPA for "will not stand" doesn't work, and WP:POV too. My suggestions are: Divisiveness for "divided" and WP:POOR for "will not stand". –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) 23:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

====→ A country that's divided surely will not stand. My past erased, no more disgrace. No more foolish naive stands.==== Edit 1 per Pjeof.  Simon KSK  12:00, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support links better WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 23:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Much better.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:56, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support (of course) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ edit 1 per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Serenity, Jollity, Humility
~ A H  1 (TCU) 14:27, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - This one is good. Good linking.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - though I'm not too sure about the serenity link. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 06:16, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - This is another excellent motto. I like it. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 18:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ -  for December 3, 2010.   1 year     03:22, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ In the beginning, men are always good-hearted. Though their natures are the same, they are educated differently. If they are not taught well, their natures will change.=== A bit of Confucian wisdom. Feel free to tweak the links. And the translation. I'm not so sure about them. If you're a follower of Xun Zi, well, I beg your pardon!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 03:56, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - The only thing that bothers me is in the second link. Are the men that AGF noobs, or the normal editors?  Simon KSK  16:39, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Good message. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 17:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - It seems to work.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 2, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

→ All in all, you're just another brick in the wall.
Bland?  Simon KSK  01:09, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it's good. Especially with all this WP:DENY hullaballoo. sonia  ♫  09:15, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * comment - vandals are usually blocked, but not banned.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe Category:Blocked users for "the wall"? But, I can't find a way to link it without adding the category to the page.  Simon KSK  14:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Edit 1 is better and I don't think we should ban every vandal. ;) Derild  49  21  ☼  15:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ban them all!!!!! Mwhahahahahah! Er...sorry.  Simon KSK  15:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral Edit 1 works better, in my opinion.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:16, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:15, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

→ All in all, you're just another brick in the wall.
Edit one per Simon. I support this one.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Yeah, I've been away so long, that I forget all these ways to link things. -_-  Simon KSK  14:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Nice. Derild  49  21  ☼  15:12, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Better  ℳ ono   18:02, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Links are better  Icy  // ♫ 14:26, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good message, and links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:15, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support this version –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 1, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:15, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

→ No autograph, no comic book!
Taken from the movie. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  02:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it; it has a good message.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:19, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Switching to Conditional Support because Edit 1 is better.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - autographs are neutral?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: What about using Signatures (shortcut: WP:SIG) for the first link and Help:Using talk pages (shortcut: WP:TP) or alternatively Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Collaborating with Other Editors/Communicating with Your Fellow Editors for the second link? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:30, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:13, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

→ No autograph, no comic book!
Edit 1 per Pjoef. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  15:15, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - we could display this on the help desk. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - This one is funny and true, so...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:32, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Support Edit 1. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:32, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Support I like it! Stephen! Coming... 16:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 30, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:13, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Click. Boom. Amazing!
(MacWorld "Intel Inside" keynote address 2006) --drippingflame 17:17, 6 August 2010 (UTC) (user:mono)
 * Weak oppose - I like the first two links, but the last one is iffy.  Simon KSK  17:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Changed...


 * Weak support - I like the first and last links, but I think the second one should be a bit more exciting, although I don't have any ideas yet. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:26, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - I really don't like the second link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:09, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 *  Weak Support  ~ "[iPhone 4] Click... BooooooM!!!" was more appropriate ~ roflmao. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:08, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Click. Boom. Amazing!
Edit 1 How about this (Although don't go for this if it means that my Italian Job quote won't get used!) Stephen! Coming... 22:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Works but I don't really see the point... Derild  49  21  ☼  22:30, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Doesn't really make sense, varying from the style of the last one. I think the idea of "save page, loading, great (traffic records, FA, or something similar) works better with the quote.  ℳ ono   18:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I actually prefer this over the one below. The both make sense, and the one below has a good message, but this one is hilarious. Any nomination that can use WP:IDIOT well is perfect.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:57, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:08, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Click. Boom. Amazing!
Edit 2 ♠ I prefer this, slightly - from the tiny acorns of signing up... --Smaug123 (talk) 07:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support This, I like! Stephen! Coming... 13:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - from nominator of original: great, except for the second link, which I find a little out of place.  ℳ ono     00:09, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It's basically saying, once you've signed up and written your first article, you're addicted! Difficultly north (SS talk) 14:13, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like this one. I do find it addicting. :) ~ N S D    (✉ • ✐) 14:19, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - See my comment above.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Edit 2 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:46, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ Edit 2 for Motto of the day/November 29, 2010 (per consensus; 5-6 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:08, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ Give me alchemy, give me wizardry, give me sorcery, thermatology, electricity! Magic if you please, master all of these, bring him to his knees! I master five magics! === -- Simon KSK  16:06, 6 August 2010 (UTC) in favor of Edit 1.  Simon KSK  16:00, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Wow... That's a very good one. Nice job.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 16:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Wow. Derild  49  21  ☼  16:17, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it. drippingflame 17:18, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have to disagree a bit on this one. I won't decide whether to support or oppose yet; I'd like to see what others think first.
 * 'Wizardry' is not the most positive thing I've ever heard of. Especially since they used to burn witches in Scotland.
 * I really can't see how rollback is sorcery, or adminship is electricity. I don't know what thermatology is, though. The closest words I can think of are the words related to hear (thermometer, etc) and the Battle of Thermopylae.
 * I don't understand what WP:NOTNOW is 'master of all these'.
 * And, well, consensus, article development, rollback, WikiProjects and admins are not the five pillars of Wikipedia...
 *  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:20, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Kayau. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → Give me alchemy, give me wizardry, give me sorcery, thermatology, electricity! Magic if you please, master all of these, bring him to his knees! I master five magics! ==== I thought about what Kayau said, and I realize that I just added a bunch of random links to an awesome quote. So, I changed the links, and I hope it's better. Oh, and Kayau, thermatology is "the branch of therapeutics concerned with the application of heat."  Simon KSK  20:53, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - much better linking here. It would probably work with the literal 5P applied to the first line of links too. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 02:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - a lot better than the above :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:21, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Suuport –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I think it might be even better with 'RFA' as a link from 'Magic' [as in 'if you please'] --Smaug123 (talk) 07:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Better than above; After seeing what Kayau said, this makes more sense.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 28, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:03, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

The More, The Better!
By AirplanePro –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose this one and Edit 1- It seems like those two mottos might promote editcountitis. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  17:38, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support that is less than one googolplexth yoctometre - (see? I'm a NATIVE SPEAKER of sarcasm!) Really, really bland - at least the Latin's a bit exciting.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support and Suggestions - I like this motto, perhaps it should be nominated as a separate motto rather than an edit of an original. How about having a separate link for each like The More, The Better! or something like that? (The last link is just an example, I know it's not very good). WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   14:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply: Yes, having a separate link for each is a good idea. I was also thinking to it but I have not found a good link for "the better" on Wikipedia. IMHO, to separate them is not necessary because the discussione will do this job. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I like the original...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC) (now they are two different nominations) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

The More, The Better!
Edit 1 per WVRMAD  –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - This one works. Would it be possible to have this and the original? They do seem to be rather different, so...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:33, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * 'REPLY: I reopened this nomination. –p joe f (talk'' • contribs) 08:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

–p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support this one, oppose original. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 03:04, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support this one. ~ N S D    (✉ • ✐) 14:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ Edit 1 for Motto of the day/November 27, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

=== → Learn of the little nautilus to sail, Spread the thin oar, and catch the driving gale. === Alexander Pope (1688-1744), An Essay on Man, "Epistle III" (1734) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - I don't get the second line...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply: the thin oar and the driving gale are the engine of the little nautilus, and I thought that the boldness of contributors and article[s] development move Wikipedia forward. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:16, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I like it. It's good, and it's something I've actually not done yet- properly read the MOS through. so  nia ♫♪ 08:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like all of the links, they work, and this gives a good message.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 18:52, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - good message, well linked. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:35, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 26, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:55, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

→ A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.
Dr. Hannibal Lecter portrayed by Anthony Hopkins in The Silence of the Lamb directed by Jonathan Demme; written by Ted Tally, Thomas Harris; starring Jodie Foster, Anthony Hopkins, Scott Glenn, Ted Levine; music composed by Howard Shore; cinematography by Tak Fujimoto; editing by Craig McKay. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I shouldn't feed a troll, but I'm not sure if I should eat one.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, that's funny. Maybe a little bit ott, but it's funny. so  nia ♫♪ 07:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Funny! Made me laugh, and good links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 18:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - although it does seem a bit violent. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 13:09, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - vandals taste nicer than newbies. Stephen! Coming... 11:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 25, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:50, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ Two mice fell into a bucket of cream. The first mouse gave up, and soon drowned. The second mouse ran so hard he eventually churned that cream into butter. I am that second mouse.=== ~ A H  1 (TCU) 17:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Though a bit odd that an article can be bold. Derild  49  21  ☼  17:43, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment. By "bold", I mean the article was boldly improved. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 17:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Awesome.  Simon KSK  18:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - looks nice.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:06, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support hahaha. WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 17:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Great, humorous, no problems. Icy  // ♫ 23:41, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus.  Simon KSK  15:05, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interrupted by twelve dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper.=== Quote by Rod Serling about advertising. So I think it is kinda appropriate for me to advertise a discussion here ;-) Stephen! Coming... 16:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Funny I must say but a bit random... Derild  49  21  ☼  16:09, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Question Um... I have no idea how old you are (and I am not going to ask... that would be rude), but as random has taken on a new meaning to the youngsters of this world (which I still don't understand, as I am in my thirties) would you mind clarifying what you mean? Sorry to be a pain! Stephen! Coming... 16:14, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Answer - Well as in random I mean it's an odd linking with linkspam because while it's true that it would be hard to make a FA with spam it's not that common a thing. Bit hard to explain it so hopefully the explanation isn't very confusing ;) Derild  49  21  ☼  16:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. I thought Linkspam was appropriate, as some people can litter articles with these.  Maybe instead of FA, we could use GA?  Or even Wikipedia? BTW, in an attempt to self-teach, I have discovered that the "yoof" meaning of random is synonymous with a non sequitor. Stephen! Coming... 16:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - It's fine. He's not saying that it happens all the time, he's just saying it would be difficult to make a FA, if there was linkspam everywhere.  Simon KSK  16:45, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support per Simon. BTW, Nutiketaiel has used 'random' in that manner too, so it's not limited to kids.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:46, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong(ish) support: Funny,the links work.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  04:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Funny and good message, but how about toilet paper orientation for the last two words? ~ A H  1 (TCU) 17:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per WP:SNOW and consensus.  Simon KSK  15:01, 16 August 2010 (UTC) ====→ It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interrupted by twelve dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper.==== Edit 1 As original, but with GA instead of FA. Stephen! Coming... 16:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

- no consensus.  Simon KSK  15:01, 16 August 2010 (UTC) ====→ It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interrupted by twelve dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper.==== Edit 2 As original, but with Wikipedia instead of FA. Stephen! Coming... 16:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

no consensus.  Simon KSK  15:01, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

See a penny, pick it up, all day long you'll have good luck
Handy little saying. I wonder if WP:WIKILOVE would make for a good final link? Or has anyone else got any better suggestions? Or maybe just leave it unlinked. Stephen! Coming... 12:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - since haven't got one like this for a while... not so sure about the good luck bit. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support I don't know, maybe good karma? That would be lead to good luck.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support this one. ~ N S D    (✉ • ✐) 14:24, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

See a penny, pick it up, all day long you'll have good luck
Edit 1 Encouraging stronger assistance! (Still not sure about a link for Good Luck) Stephen! Coming... 12:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - some newbies may take offence at an adopt offer when they haven't asked for adoption.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:17, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Per Kayau.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

in favour of original. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

→ We're all one, and life flows on within you and without you.
-- Simon KSK  23:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * support - kind of sad, but beautiful. Perfectly linked. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 01:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Not quite, because if you retire your 'tribs aren't going to flow on, but it's great anyway. If "life" stayed as it is, and "flows on" linked to Special:RecentChanges, it might make a little more sense. Support either way. so  nia ♫♪ 04:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Bleh... - All of this depressing stuff is making me more unhappy than usual... But it is good. This is a support.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Boo-hoo-hoo. Per polls are evil, I'm just gonna make this !vote ambiguous.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

====→ We're all one, and life flows on within you and without you.==== Edit 1 per sonia (fantastic link, BTW)  Simon KSK  14:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Boo-hoo-hoo - it's still pretty depressing... *sob*  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sigh... - Still depressing... Not helping my mood any... But it is still very good.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:45, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Derild  49  21  ☼  14:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Better - now that I come back to it, I like it even more. In some ways it's encouraging to know that our project doesn't depend on one person. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 03:06, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ edit 1 per consensus. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Video-games are bad for you? That's what they said about Rock 'N' Roll.
I wanted to use this quote for a long time. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  00:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Very Weak Support - Great idea but Rock and Roll needs a good link before I really support it. Derild  49  21  ☼  01:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - I agree with Derild.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 01:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose As do I.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

per consensus. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Video-games are bad for you? That's what they said about Rock 'N' Roll.
Edit 1 but I prefer the original. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  01:56, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Though it took me a while to get it. Derild  49  21  ☼  01:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC) Weak Oppose - As I just realized what I thought doesn't make sense.  Derild  49  21  ☼  22:07, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * weak oppose - no, really, I still don't get it.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:14, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Funny but weak oppose - I don't get the last link, but I love the quote.  Simon KSK  21:09, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Odd link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

per consensus. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Video-games are bad for you? That's what they said about Rock 'N' Roll.
Edit 2 (I'm open to suggestions). Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  21:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - That's what they said about testimonials?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per hi878.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

per consensus. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Do not call the tortoise unworthy because she is not something else.
It basically means "don't attack newbies if they mess up a newbie experiment". Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  00:29, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - newbies are tortoises? No problem otherwise.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:55, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - This basically says, "Don't call a newbie unworthy because she is not a newbie experiment." lolwut?  Simon KSK  19:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support ~ I don't like the last link very much. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The last link is terrible. FInd something better and I'll support.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Do not call the tortoise unworthy because she is not something else.
Edit 1- I got rid of the last link altogether. How does it hold up? Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  04:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - No, I think there needs to be a link. Just not that one.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Do not call the tortoise unworthy because she is not something else.
Edit 2 how's this? Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  05:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC) All- no consensus Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  04:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Pretty good, but still seems a bit odd...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 16:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ better than other versions. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose all - very underwhelming, although good message. Edit 2 is my favorite, but there again, not all newbies are young. Some of them could be grownups with lots of clue. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 22:41, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

all - no consensus. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Pedro, good music is the property of the entire universe.
I'm not linking to WB or COM because those AGF pages are still drafts. In WN they don't AGF, but AGI instead, which is a different thing. I'm not linking to meta, per WP:COI - I wrote that one myself :).  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Good idea and fantastic linking. Quite unique, well done. so  nia ♫♪ 22:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good idea, and very good linking.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - neat idea. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:37, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Idle Hands are the Devil's playthings.
I'm actually suprised that this saying hasn't been used before. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  21:44, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Links work. Good job.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Hands? With a capital H? This makes me think of Israel Hands in Treasure Island.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Prefer this one Derild  49  21  ☼  13:28, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Idle Hands are the Devil's playthings.
Edit 1 In case the original doesn't work. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  21:44, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - This works, but I prefer the Original a tiny bit more.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Idle hands are the Devil's playthings.
Edit 2 fixes the capitalization, incorporates both above mottos, and should be less complicated not having all those links in one word. PrincessofLlyr royal court 22:46, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Bleh... I think they all work. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like the WP:MOV in there. --Smaug123 (talk) 07:40, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support this one. ~ N S D    (✉ • ✐) 14:25, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ edit 2 - per consensus. Difficultly north (SS talk) 10:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

→ "You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!"
Probably Michael Caine's most famous line, as spake in The Italian Job. Because of the (mild nowadays) profanity, I don't expect this will get passed, but it still made me chuckle when I thought of the idea, and I hope it does the same for you! Stephen! Coming... 21:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * :) - Not much to say; made me laugh. :) Any quote where a link to that page fits is good in my book. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:35, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - er, I thought the people who deleted the main page are... well... not supposed to blow any bloody doors off?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:04, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Fantastic. Well, before revdel there may have been legit reasons to delete the main page, but I dunno. so  nia ♫♪ 19:27, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - ORIGINAL  ℳ ono   18:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Prefer this one! Derild  49  21  ☼  19:38, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ - original for November 18, 2010.   ℳ ono     00:42, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

→ "You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!"
Edit 1 How about this one then? (Not that I'm expecting either to make it!) Stephen! Coming... 09:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC) Weak Support - Works, but the first link doesn't fit that well with the quote. Derild 49  21  ☼  16:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC) Comment I thought it might tell a little tale - a new admin learning how to delete (hence the link to New Admin School/Deleting), and ended up making a bit of a mess. I see what you mean with the link not working quite right though. I think that is more down to directly linking to the page rather than going through the shortcut first. Viewing through pop ups don't help either. I'll try againStephen! Coming... 16:32, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose I don't like the first link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:57, 29 July 2010 (UTC)


 * - in favor of original  ℳ ono     00:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

→ "You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!"
Edit 2 Better than edit 1, I hope (But I still prefer the original!) Stephen! Coming... 16:49, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose I still don't like the first link. I agree; the original is best. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hi878 (talk • contribs)
 * Oppose - Original is best  ℳ ono   21:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * So is that a vote of support for the original? ;-) Stephen! Coming... 22:17, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * - <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono     00:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Yes, it's true.
On the plans for Apple Computer, Inc. to begin using Intel processors in its Macintosh computers during 2006 and 2007. About twenty two minutes into his address. Rumors of such plans had existed for years, but had been growing more credible and prolific for about a week before his announcement. --  mo no so ck   02:17, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Perfect!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:11, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I like this one :) sonia  ♫  05:59, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ yes, it's true... iPhone 4 sux very-very much... hahaha. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:28, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Lol yes Derild  49  21  ☼  00:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ for Motto of the day/November 17, 2010 per WP:SNOW WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 17:57, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Having children makes you no more a parent than having a piano makes you a pianist.
There has to be some kind of better linking for this one, but I really really like the quote. Maybe if the second link is kept, the first can go to scripts, user rights, or something like that? sonia ♫  06:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment please correct the arrow link; it's currently a disambig.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * fix'd. It wasn't even on the dab page. sonia  ♫  07:27, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - honestly, this quote and the links are so good I don't think it needs more. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 16:49, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Quality of edits, not quantity. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:11, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono    07:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ for Motto of the day/November 16, 2010 WP:SNOW WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 16:55, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

=== → And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.=== This was a pain in the ass to link.  Simon KSK  14:43, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral- I really don't think all those links are neccesary, but it's very creative. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  18:44, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support All of the links might be confusing.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - All those links are a headache! Simon, please be civil.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

→ And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
In case the first one doesn't go well.  Simon KSK  21:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Far too simple. Find some middle ground, Simon. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * 'Weak oppose per WP:FUI (selfref).  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

==== → And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make. ==== Edit 2 Just my interpretation of the motto. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  22:33, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support The format of the links might be confusing. This or the original work, in my opinion.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - same reason as original.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support (Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
Edit 3 How's this? Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  03:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - The links are a bit bland, but less confusing than the others.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose because of the equal link. And there's just something I don't like about this quote... dunno.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:04, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

(ALL VERSIONS; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

all, user withdrew nomination.  Simon KSK  01:36, 13 August 2010 (UTC) === →You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us and the world will be as one. === Another version of this was used back in 2008, but it was only the first links that were the same.  Simon KSK  12:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Edit 2. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose all - as very underwhelming, somewhat confusing, and commonly used links. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 17:08, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose ALL - per Princess. <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono   20:10, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - carries the same message.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - As much as I like it, used before.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:32, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


 * - Already used <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono   07:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Put a tiger in your tank.
Exxon mobil slogan from years ago, idea is putting a "tiger" (user script (like twinkle)) in your "tank" (vector.js). --  mo no so ck   02:23, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Although I'm not sure what the message is... By the way, Mono, a little bit more of a description would be nice in your submissions.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The point is, I think, that you gain so much more efficiency and strength and power from having Exxon in your tank. Hence the tiger metaphor- you go much faster and are reasonably accurate. So support. sonia  ♫  05:06, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong neutral. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Aren't you also fully responsible for driving the car regardless what gas you put in it? ;) sonia  ♫  05:14, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Whoa yes, but we're doing a motto here, not an advertising campaign for a user script. You don't want inexperienced users screwing up edits because he used a tool wrongly. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:18, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * If you're worried, we could make it Put a tiger in your tank * with the asterisk/disclaimer :P sonia  ♫  06:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * We could always find THE SMALL PRINT and add it there.   Kayau  Voting   IS   evil 09:26, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Most ads these days have discalimers... Face-tongue.svg <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono   18:47, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like this one! ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 18:53, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support. It's mostly a good motto, but only weak support simply because it's the ecocidal ExxonMobil. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:14, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Lemme find a bp quote... <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono   05:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Strong Support looks great, so do the links WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 23:14, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Very Weak Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:23, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ for Motto of the day/November 15, 2010 per WP:SNOW WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 22:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

=== → Audentes fortuna iuvat ("Fortune favors the bold") === Audentes fortuna iuvat is a Latin phrase which means "fortune favors the bold". Slon02 (talk) 18:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - It works, and has a good message, but we seem to have a lot of "Be Bold" mottos.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - Per Hi878 Derild  49  21  ☼  19:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - at least we haven't got a bold one for some time, so maybe this will be a bit distant from the other bold ones in the schedule, plus this one makes a bit more sense than some of the other bold ones, so I won't oppose.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:06, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - This is a good motto with a message that matches the quote.  MMS  2013  23:54, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply - MMS2013, things are different now. We've agreed that we're pretty tired of bold quotes, so we're waiting until a really good one comes out...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 01:08, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Re-Reply: This comes from Virgil's Aeneid. Those are the last words of Pliny the Elder before he left the docks at Pompeii to rescue people from the eruption of Vesuvius in 79. If we want to wait for a better "bold quote", we must wait for about 2000 years or so ... hahaha. BTW, I have never tired of bold quotes. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ -  for November 14, 2010. <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono    04:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Strength through discipline, Strength through community, Strength through action.
Read this book in high school. sonia ♫  06:27, 9 August 2010 (UTC) ✅ per consensus.  Simon KSK  01:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - like that! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 16:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I agree. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 18:51, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Nice! Derild  49  21  ☼  19:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:17, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono    21:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Pieces of eight! Pieces of eight!
A bit bland?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Erm... - To be honest, I don't get the connection. Am I just being stupid?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * weak oppose- How does "pieces of eight" relate to intervention against vandalism? Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  02:58, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * comment because Captain Flint shouted pieces of eight when he saw Jim coming.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 03:00, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I still find the connection, erm, weird. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  03:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I couldn't get it until I saw the explanation. Derild  49  21  ☼  13:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per derild. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 17:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Not clear enough. <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono   17:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * - Mostly opposes <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono   21:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

When in a hole, stop digging
I'm not sure about the origin of this phrase, but it was something that I have heard time and time again. Here, I've taken it to show that if you have put yourself in a corner by arguing something unreasonable, you should just stop. By a nice piece of serendipity, the humour essays on the topics are both about horses. Stephen! Coming... 22:16, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - first support! Linking is great! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 02:49, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - per WP:BOLD, I've removed the arrow. If anyone gets an arrow link, please replace it.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 04:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Good linking.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  07:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. Humorous message. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Great <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono   07:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 11, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ He who lives by the sword will surely also die.
It's from the same song as the motto I made below. -- Simon KSK  16:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems pretty good.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:07, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - it's a strange quote, but it works.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:11, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - good point, great links. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:25, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 18:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 10, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:04, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ From the deepest desires often come the deadliest hate.
How's this? sonia ♫  04:22, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - yes, this is good. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 06:30, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Yes, very nice! Derild  49  21  ☼  15:17, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good message and links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 16:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - great, although a bit ominous. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:26, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 18:57, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ this is pretty good! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 9, 2010 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ "Scooby Doo, Where are you?"
One of Shaggy's most famous lines, coupled with a question I frequently get asked on my talk page! Stephen! Coming... 17:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - :) Funny.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:53, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ^^ so  nia ♫♪ 19:27, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional support if mine fails.
 * Support - Doesn't really matter which one :P Derild  49  21  ☼  13:30, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - either version. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 18:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:59, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Scooby Doo, Where are you?
Edit 1 ~ It means the same without quotation marks; why don't we KISS?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:28, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Whichever.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 06:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Doesn't matter which one, but if I happen to be the one putting this in the schedule, I'll put this one. ;)  Simon KSK  18:41, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:55, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support lol--11:29, 5 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forty two (talk • contribs)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 8, 2010 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:59, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Book 'em, Danno
I've searched the archives/past noms, and I can't believe that no one has suggested this catchphrase from Hawaii Five O! Stephen! Coming... 07:04, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose yep, too strong.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This one is fine imo. May reconsider. so  nia ♫♪ 08:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - how is this too strong? Vandals get blocked by admins. End of story. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 16:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support I agree. If this is too strong, then we need to get rid of AIV, because that's pretty much what we're saying... :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Does anyone remember that for a previous nomination (i forgot the motto), I used block/ban (again forgot which one) at first, everyone thought it was too strong, and when I used AIV, I got comments like 'yes, this is much better'?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:08, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I don't remember... Would you mind trying to find it, so that I can trout myself for being inconsistent? :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:11, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I found it, but I'm not linking. I can tell you that only Nutiketaiel, MMS2013, Sonia and pjoef participated in that discussion.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:17, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, only one of those four people are commenting here. Your argument has just entered the Irrelevant Zone.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If the reason why you're not linking is what I think it is, thank you. I apologise if I appear to be inconsistent. However, that quote had a bit more philosophy to it related to blocking, and could have promoted the wrong message. This one just doesn't make as much sense in the context of the three links if either of the alternatives are followed. so  nia ♫♪ 11:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I think this is fine. Derild  49  21  ☼  13:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * SUPPORT!!! THIS WORK!!! BLOCK 'EM ALL!!! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:24, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - This is my favorite of the three. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 19:24, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 7, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Book 'em, Danno
Edit 1 An alternative, in case blocking is a bit too strong Stephen! Coming... 07:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral non-admins can warn users too.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support In favor of original. I don't think that it is too strong.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Kayau. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 19:24, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Book 'em, Danno
Edit 2 ~ How about that?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support - In favor of Original. It isn't too strong; that's what they do...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose since non-admins can report vandals to AIV. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐ • ✍) 19:24, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ The lord knows I am not a cruel man.
Yet another one from Hitchhiker's.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish! 19:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * comment so the community is the lord?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 23:41, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - I just don't like the linking. — m o n o   00:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Don't like the lord link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hi878 (talk • contribs)

→ The lord knows I am not a cruel man.
Edit 1 ~ Yeah, the lord part was quite lame.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish! 21:34, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support If mine isn't liked.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

→ The lord knows I am not a cruel man.
Edit 2 ~ Anyone else think that this is funny? Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 03:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Me! AirplanePro RadioChecklist 02:11, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - Jimbo ain't the lord and even if he is, why would he care that you're nto a cruel man?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 23:59, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm aiming for humor, since this is a Douglas Adams quote...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose: Per Kayau.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  14:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ better version. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

(ALL VERSIONS; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose all as too iffy and underwhelming. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 21:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - Per above. Derild  49  21  ☼  13:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

(ALL VERSIONS; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:44, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

=== → Nec Temere, Nec Timide ("Neither rashly nor timidly") === Motto of various institutions. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support yes, it works!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good message.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - simple, strong message. Me likes. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 17:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 6, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:43, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ I feel the need... ...the need for speed!
LT. Pete "Maverick" Mitchell portrayed by Tom Cruise in Top Gun (1986) directed by Tony Scott; written by Ehud Yonay, Jim Cash, Jack Epps, Jr.; starring Tom Cruise, Kelly McGillis, Val Kilmer, Anthony Edwards, Tom Skerritt; music composed by Harold Faltermeyer + F-14 Tomcat (^____^); cinematography by Jeffrey L. Kimball; editing by Chris Lebenzon and Billy Weber. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support CSD... speed... weird.   Kayau  Voting   IS   evil 07:25, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - I don't think we feel the need to speedy delete. :P  Simon KSK  18:50, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Made me laugh when I saw the link. :) I'm going to add a tiny little change, though.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:35, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ I feel the need... ...the need for speed!
Edit 1 ~ Tweaked just a tad. Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 23:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose - seems to imply that deletionists love to CSD articles that don't meet any of the criteria.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:35, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ I feel the need... ...the need for speed!
Edit 2 ~ How about this? Stephen! Coming... 11:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - although it seems to be pushing admins to deleted your userpage fast... :D  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Well, when they've got nothing better to do...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support this version –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ [Edit 2] for Motto of the day/November 4, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:35, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

=== → Dreams, books, are each a world; and books, we know, Are a substantial world, both pure and good; Round these, with tendrils strong as flesh and blood, Our pastime and our happiness will grow. === William Wordsworth (1770–1850), "Personal Talk" –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose it's kind of... weird isn't it?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:03, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply: Well, I can not speak about the set of links I used here, but those lines are "pure go[o|l]d" to me (^___^). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - It makes sense, and the links fit. Nice one!  Simon KSK  18:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong support. Good message and links, but one thing is that the link to Wikipedia's Happiness project says absolutely nothing about how one achieves happiness. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 00:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Erm... - Good, except for the fact that each article and FAC isn't a Wikipedia.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - awesome lines, pretty good linking. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 17:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 3, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:08, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Brothers and sisters have I none, but that man's father is my father's son.
Can a brain teaser pass for a quote? -- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish! 21:17, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh no - I think this one could also be saved for April Fool's Day... and it's better than the Steve Jobs quote.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * epic- I like this one. April Fools? Maybe. so  nia ♫♪ 00:06, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support for April Fool's - I've been puzzling over it for ages, and I still can't get it :) No, wait - I've just got it! --Smaug123 (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * April Fool's! - Love the quote and perfectly linked! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 13:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support, but not for April Fools - I like it, but I don't quite see how it would fit on April Fools day.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:06, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: I agree. I don't see this as having anything to do with April Fools.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  11:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply unless I'm misunderstanding you, you're trying to say that we should tell others that we shouldn't keep our usage of alternative accounts secret and not blame it on our little brother?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:43, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply: Yes that is correct.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  14:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support + headache lol –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 2, 2010 (per consensus; Note: I think there is no consensus for April Fool's Day, but I'm not sure...) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

=== → Magis ("The more") === A Jesuit phrase, which means "the more", taken from "ad majorem Dei gloriam ("for the greater glory of God"), referring to the philosophy of doing more. –p joe f (talk'' • contribs) 06:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Question ???  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:29, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * My question has not been answered, so oppose for now.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What was your question? PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What does it mean?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:30, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That contributing to WP is doing more with your life. Kind of like going the extra mile. No one has to contribute, but many do. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Very weak support - very bland.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 16:02, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Good!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - without the explanation I wouldn't have a clue why the more is linked to contributing to Wikipedia and anyway it's very bland. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   14:05, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * no consensus WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 23:04, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → Magis ("The more") ==== Edit 1 with Be bold instead of Contributing to Wikipedia. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak support — I like the idea of being bold, but the other one seemed better because it emphasized that the more edits, the merrier. Beluga  boy  13:56, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support - In favor of the original. That one seems to fit better.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:31, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - in favor of original — m o n o   04:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


 * - No consensus — m o n o   00:09, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose, same reason as above no explanation for this one yet, though...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't realise you wanted an explanation for them both. By being bold you are doing more. Going the extra mile. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 16:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Very weak support - still very bland.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 23:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support original - I really like the linking, quote, everything. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - A bit better. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   14:07, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ for Motto of the day/November 12, 2010 Two weak supports make one support versus no opposition. WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 22:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → Magis ("The more [the better!]") ==== Edit 2 Basically the same as the original, except 'with the better!' at the end. AirplanePro RadioChecklist 02:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose ~ that is not the correct translation, but I added a new version below . –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - It looks at bit odd with [ ] . I prefer the version below. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   14:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Per Pjoef.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose this one and Edit 2- It seems like those two mottos might promote editcountitis. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  17:38, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * - Consensus to decline. <span style="border:3px solid grey;background:black;padding:1px;color:gold;text-shadow:white 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em"> ℳ ono   06:12, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Never Be Rude to an Arab
Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  18:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Just because it's Monty Python. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:53, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - A bit bland but ok. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   08:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - Wikipedians are Arabs?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You know, I'm kind of suprised, since you didn't like me associating Wikipedia with America in my mottos. Also, I'm not trying to associate Wikipedians are Arabs, it's just saying be civil, like the song . Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  18:24, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Um, so I don't like associating Wikipedians with Arabs either. That makes sense, doesn't it?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:28, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes it does. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  02:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ I prefer "Killing an Arab" by The Cure, but it conveys a good message. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:17, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support and LOL at Pjoef -  Simon KSK  18:54, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Never Be Rude to an Arab
Edit #1 for your kind consideration: IMHO The "Arab" is the newcomer since the song "dispenses valuable advice about not resorting to xenophobic insults".-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish! 01:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC) Edit 1 per consenus (2 supports;4 opposes) and ✅ original per consenus (5 supports;2 opposes). Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  18:53, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Either one works, in my opinion.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:31, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - newbies are Arabs?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - per Kayau, I can just about see linking 'Arab' to Wikipedians but I think linking them to newbies is going a bit too far. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   11:11, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * oppose both - not that they're bad, per se, but not good either. There is simply too much room for controversy with the reference to calling anyone an Arab. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 19:01, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * And much like calling someone a terrorist, too. ;) Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:37, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * oppose- per WVRMAD and this version of the motto can be interpreted as racist by saying that all arabs are newbies. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  02:25, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

→ You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
May get some people a little nervous, but I like it. Thoughts/ better links? sonia ♫  09:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC) ✅ per consensus and WP:SNOW  Simon KSK  18:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Question - I'm not sure what it means. To me, it reads, you can safely assume that you've created consensus by ownership when it turns out to be neutral?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The commonly known verse is "God created man in his own image"; in other words our articles should always reflect consensus. So if you have a really POV article (WP:POV doesn't link to NPOV, or I would have done that), you have forced consensus into your own little view of what the article should be, and it should be the other way around. It's a bit weird. If you can suggest better links, please do so. sonia  ♫  10:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support works, I think.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:42, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Works quite well! Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  11:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I really like this one! The links are creative and the whole thing just makes me laugh. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 13:07, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Made me laugh! Derild  49  21  ☼  14:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - It's true.  Simon KSK  14:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Funny and true.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ I've been looking so long for you Now you won't get away from my grasp. You've been living so long in hiding In hiding behind that false mask.=== -- Simon KSK  23:14, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - perfect links. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 01:50, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * why not? annoying socks are annoying. I don't have the attention span to sock. :P so  nia ♫♪ 04:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good message and links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - yes!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:03, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 30, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:12, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ If 'pro' is the opposite of 'con' what is the opposite of 'progress'?
Anyone thinks it's funny? Derild 49  21  ☼  02:04, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL and yes - excellent one. Brings a smile.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:06, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well done. Good idea. so  nia ♫♪ 02:08, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Awesome -  Simon KSK  21:09, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hah! - Made me laugh. :) Definitely one of the funniest that I've seen.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:36, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 29, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ The first rule of fight club is you do not talk about fight club.
Erm... Forty two  Thanks for all the fish! 14:23, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - now, let's stop thinking of pink elephants. No, just kidding. That sounds Orwellian, all right, but a bit weird.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:56, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * support Fight Club- I would have thought this would have made it into a motto by now! so  nia ♫♪ 21:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - what are we talking about? PrincessofLlyr  royal court 22:42, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - You are all being rather random... Or am I missing something?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 28, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:05, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Jon... I don't want a big, strong man... I want you.
 Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * aww that's sweet... :P so  nia ♫♪ 13:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply - gee, is that a support or oppose? :D  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * echo Sonia - and that's a support! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 17:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Although maybe not the exact same kind as Sonia's... :P  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:32, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 27, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Do You Know the Way to San José
I would have gone with Is this the way to Amarrillo, but that song title has been used for MOTD (for a different link, I hasten to add!) Stephen! Coming...
 * Support - all right! Great!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:35, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - linked quite nicely! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 18:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support  MMS  2013  21:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 26, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

=== → I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. What I can do, I should do and, with the help of God, I will do. === I just thought a quote from Mr. Hale would be a good one. :) -- Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Would be strong support, but the "I cannot do everything" makes me think of the fact that as a single person I cannot stop a war and not that I am limited in my actions as the link makes me think. Derild  49  21  ☼  20:26, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - this is good, but I have another idea about the last link.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:32, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - like this one better. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 18:01, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 24, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

====→ I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. What I can do, I should do and, with the help of God, I will do.==== With WP:COMM in lieu of WP:5P. I remember that one of the mottos I nominated (it was before Hi878 came, so don't worry) was opposed by some because it uses WP:FIVE.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:32, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - I prefer 5P, to be perfectly honest.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 06:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878  MMS  2013  21:42, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of the original –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Standing on the shoulders of giants.
Extract of a quote by Isaac Newton, where Wikipedia is supported by the five pillars. Stephen! Coming... 19:11, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - I like it. Very good message.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:27, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - the last link is great! And it's great that we finally have an admin as a participant, because before StephenBuxton came, all the admin participants were gone.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:29, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Glad to be here... I discovered this area a few days ago, and it is a nice diversion to my normal Wiki-day of approving/declining CSDs. Stephen! Coming... 11:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - Nice Wikiday ;) Derild 49  21  ☼  18:06, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - very creative. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 22:48, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:53, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 23, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.
Quote from Sherlock Holmes. This was rejected in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Motto_of_the_day/Nominations/Archive_7#When_you_have_elimanated_the_impossible.2C_whatever_is_left.2C_however_improbable.2C_must_be_the_truth. Archive 7], but they were for different links (all to do with blocking). Hopefully the above makes more sense: Once you've weeded out all the peacock terms, you may well have a stub. But if it is referenced, then it is probably notable. Stephen! Coming... 16:58, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support I like Edit 1 better; I think verifiability is a better link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:55, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.
Edit 1 As above, but with Verify instead of Cite Stephen! Coming... 17:00, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good! How ever, Dirk Gently doesn't agree with you. He thinks that quote is stupid; he said that it is usually the impossible that is true. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:55, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - But, Poirot > Holmes. :P  Simon KSK  12:20, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - great point. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 22:49, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support -  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 22, 2010 (per consensus; 6 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ They've been sent to Coventry
Sending someone to Coventry is a phrase used to describe the act of ostracising/ignoring someone. Stephen! Coming... 09:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Below makes more sense.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ They've been sent to Coventry
Edit 1 As WP:TROLL is a soft redirect, I thought I would give the more direct link as an alternative. Stephen! Coming... 09:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - better interwiki than soft redirect  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:24, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - :) I like it. Kind of funny.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - better linking Derild  49  21  ☼  19:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support per above. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 21, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:15, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ We are not amused.
Again, a bit bland...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 03:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Support ~ yes, it's a bit bland... but it works. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:19, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why not? It's fine. so  nia ♫♪ 14:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I think it's funny. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:19, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - and this simple! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 21:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 20, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ You have saved our lives. We are eternally grateful.
From the 'squeeze toy aliens' (see List of Toy Story characters). WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook  09:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional support if mine fails.  Kayau ' Voting''  IS   evil 09:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Either works. Good message.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 18:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:09, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ You have saved our lives. We are eternally grateful.
Edit 1 ~ I enjoyed the movie too, but I think WP:USER is a bit unnecessary.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I don't mind not linking WP:USER, I prefer it but I don't think it makes much of a difference. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   11:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Ah, Toy Story. I love all the Pixar movies. Just watched Ratatouille yesterday.  Simon KSK  13:57, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Either works. Good message.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 18:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support either. They are both wonderful. I would have never thought of using that as a motto! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 18:59, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ I know there are some of you who consider some links to be obvious, but I prefer "to be obvious" because there are many people who read the motto of the day on users' pages and they are new or not registered to Wikipedia. Anyway, WP:USER, used in the original version, points to User pages, which is a nonsense. So, if we will change the link in the first version with WP:PEDIANS/WP:EDIANS/WP:USERS/WP:PEDIAN, I'll prefer the first version, otherwise I prefer this one. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - I intended to link to WP:USERS, not WP:USER, I've now just spotted my typo in the link and corrected it. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   13:58, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply: Yes. I was sure of that :) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support for two reasons: I like the links and I'm a sucker for Pixar films. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  22:28, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 19, 2010 (per consensus; 7 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:09, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

=== → Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth more than the evolution to a vegetarian diet. === Another quote from Einstein, I actually found it on Hi878's userpage. Derild 49  21  ☼  14:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong support - though perhaps I'm biased. :) I've heard of it before (not on Hi878's up though), and I've never thought of linking it like that.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Why didn't I think of this? It's been sitting on my userpage all this time...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Great! WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   18:01, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * weak support - I disagree with the actual motto.  Simon KSK  22:17, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply - well, you are wrong, anyways. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 01:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply - I'm not vegetarian but I still support it, (mainly because I can't help laughing at the though of a carnivorous diet of newbies)! WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   11:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I just don't see how a vegetarian diet benefits the Earth. We're all animals too. Animals eat each other. It's no good trying to change what we are.  Simon KSK  14:01, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Spitfire, I just can't resist. OK, here are some of the points about why Einstein's quote makes sense.
 * Humans did not start to eat meat until one of those Ice Ages. Our bodies (long guts, blunt teeth) are still designed to eat veggies. Please see T. Colin Campbell's studies for further information. Meat is one of the main causes of heart attack and a few types of cancer too.
 * The modern livestock industry is very wasteful. This is because the increasing population means mass and industrial production of meat, which is not only cruel to the animals and the environment, but wastes a lot of food as well. If meat is cut off for all people in the world, then nobody will starve. (It can still support the current population, though of course this might change in the future.) And guess what? Not enough food means W-A-R.
 * While carbon dioxide is the main greenhouse gas, it a) is less powerful than methane and laughing gas, which are mostly from the livestock industry and b) hangs around in our atmosphere for a very long time, so even if we stop emitting CO2 now, change won't come for years. Not to mention that the livestock industry of the twenty-first century produces a lot of water pollution AND wastes massive amounts of electricity. And if we don't protect the environment, you know what will happen: W-A-R.
 * I hope you understand what Einstein is trying to say now.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - simply because it made me smile! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 19:02, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ it's more than passable. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 18, 2010 (per consensus; 7 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
It's been lying on my UP for some time. I finally have the pleasure of bringing it to the MOTD.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good message. Good quote.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:06, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Very good motto, nice message. WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   18:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - simple, different link. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 19:03, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ I simply love this one. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 17, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ For you, I wanna write the sickest rhyme of my life.
I'm iffy about this. The links are generic, so some suggestions would be very welcome.  Simon KSK  21:42, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - between the links being generic and the fact that honestly I just don't like the lyric, I have to oppose. Somehow I don't associate "sickest rhyme of my life" with an FA. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 00:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If you don't like that, I'm just glad I didn't put a obscene Nas quote instead of this one. XD.  Simon KSK  00:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I probably wouldn't have liked that. But that's why I weak opposed - I'm not totally arguing on the linking, but also a personal preference. I don't really like rock (or whatever Eminem is), so that factors into it. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 01:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, Eminem is rap. I mostly focus on music quotes, because music is my thing. I personally think Eminem makes some powerful lyrics.  Simon KSK  01:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * To each his own! I'm more of a Tchaikovsky and Dan Forrest person myself! I'm not saying that I might not be okay with some of his lyrics, but I'd rather not go through all of them to find the ones I would like. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 01:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support (I prefer edit 1) ~ I think that "sickest" here means "the best", "the most excellent", but it is not easy to understand. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:50, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does, but it shouldn't be that hard to understand seeing as most of the crappy song s on the radio constantly say "yo, that's sick" and stuff like that.  Simon KSK  18:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You should know, not everyone here is American (I presume you are because you said the beatles are 'freaking awesome') so not everyone knows that meaning of 'sick'.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose per princessofllyr.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 06:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support Almost as good as Edit 1.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

→ For you, I wanna write the sickest rhyme of my life.
Edit 1. I liked the original but came up with this variation... seems a little more appropriate, but maybe not... --khfan93 (t) (c) 03:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Perfect! - Perfect linking! Fantastic job!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sick! I like totally like this, man.-- Forty two  Thanks for all the fish!  20:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Great!  Simon KSK  22:19, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ Now it's perfect! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:50, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 16, 2010 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)