Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 33

Wikipedia: A free website that anyone could edit
Another suggestion for Wikipedia's tenth anniversary (January 15, 2011). Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  19:08, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I just don't like it... Too boring. Hi 8 7 8   (Come yell at me!) 19:11, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Super Amazingingly Strong Support - I love it! A free website that anyone could edit (until very, very, recently). — m o n o   21:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878. Mono, I think you are wrong about pending changes, which is not the same as FlaggedRevs. It actually lets people edit, rather than semiprotect them so they can't.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - it's not really a motto, is it? And please can we not have the Pending Changes discussion here :( --Smaug123 (talk) 18:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Captain Obvious. &mdash;La Pianista  ♫ ♪ 17:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose – Too dull. — MC10 ( T • C • GB •L)  02:29, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 3) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia: A free website that anyone could edit
Edit 1 ~ same as before, but with links. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:30, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment Does Wikipedia really need to be linked? Derild 49  21  ☼  14:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree with derild. And, this is still pretty bland.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:39, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Captain Obvious. As you can see, linking to Captain Obvious does not alleviate his obviousness. &mdash;La Pianista  ♫ ♪ 17:15, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose – Still a dull motto. — MC10 ( T • C • GB •L)  02:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 3) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

====→ This is my 10-year anniversary producing, making music and... you're not what you were 10 years ago. It's just a natural evolution and having wisdom. ==== Edit 2 ~ Possibly be used for January 15, 2011, Wikipedia's tenth anniversary. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  19:08, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - I moved this to a subsection, so that we can keep all of these together. Hi 8 7 8   (Come yell at me!) 19:13, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Better than the other, I suppose. Hi 8 7 8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come yell at me!) 19:14, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose in favor of edit 3. — MC10 ( T • C • GB •L)  02:31, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 3) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

→ This is my 10-year anniversary producing, making music and... you're not what you were 10 years ago.
Edit 3 -  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 06:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  18:51, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong support - but even more support would be given to one where 'making music' were linked to something like a page listing places where Wikipedia has helped research, if such exists. --Smaug123 (talk) 18:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Best so far. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come yell at me!) 18:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - sums it up nicely. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:54, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Now, this is pretty cool. Not many people know about Nupedia, and the links fit nicely. <font face="Verdana"> Simon KSK  18:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support – Motto is better than the original, and the links are creative and intuitive. — MC10 ( T • C • GB •L)  02:31, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ I like it very much! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:34, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/January 15, 2011 (Wikipedia's tenth anniversary) (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

===Here's to the bright New Year, and a fond farewell to the old; here's to the things that are yet to come, and to the memories that we hold.=== For January 1st, 2011  Secret Saturdays   (talk to me) 21:13, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose: the link to Category:Inactive Wikiprojects is probably not the best message; we should try to reactivate inactive projects, not give them a "fond farewell". <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva"> Intelligent  sium  04:11, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose In favor of Edit 2. Hi878 (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose in favor of Edit 2. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐) 15:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 23:53, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Here's to the bright New Year, and a fond farewell to the old; here's to the things that are yet to come, and to the memories that we hold.
Edit one: Perhaps not so good, as there are some pages to which we should not give a "fond farewell" (for example, BLP vios and G3 speedies). <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva"> Intelligent  sium  04:11, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose In favor of Edit 2. Hi878 (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose in favor of Edit 2. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐) 15:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 23:53, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Here's to the bright New Year, and a fond farewell to the old; here's to the things that are yet to come, and to the memories that we hold.
Edit two: again, not so good because WP:MISS is somewhat controversial. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva"> Intelligent  sium  04:11, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Suport-thanks for the links, they are really good! Secret Saturdays   (talk to me) 01:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Support I think that the links work well. I didn't know about WP:MISS before, but I think that it definitely works. Hi878 (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Support – I like the links used for this quote. — MC10 ( T • C • GB •L)  04:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐) 15:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Great motto! --Smaug123 (talk) 19:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Great links! AirplanePro RadioChecklist 15:27, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for New Year's Day per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:53, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Here's to the bright New Year, and a fond farewell to the old; here's to the things that are yet to come, and to the memories that we hold.
Edit three - this should fit. Simply south (talk) 21:38, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Support (this version) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:48, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose In favor of Edit 2. Hi878 (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose in favor of Edit 2. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐) 15:43, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose in favor of Edit 2. AirplanePro RadioChecklist 15:21, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Simply south (talk) 23:53, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Just ban them all.
She's talking about this, this, this and above all, this. More speficically it should point to Supreme Master TV but (incidentally) it's the first article I created on WP as well as the first that was nominated for deletion. :) (See my archive 1 for details). Anyway, it's for either 25 Oct or 22 Feb, both of which are Supreme Master Ching Hai days.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:02, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hah! - I like it. Funny. :)  <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 21:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes that is fantastic. Great work :) <font color="#FF0099">so <font color="#CC0099">nia ♫♪ 01:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ pay attention that the 25th of October is very close in our schedule calendar. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:30, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply - we always have 22 Feb, don't we? ;)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 25, 2010 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

===→ "We will rebuild. We're going to come out of this stronger than before...The skyline will be made whole again."=== This is a snippit of the quote used by Giuliani on the September 11 attacks. I'm sorry this is a little short notice, but maybe it could replace the current 9/11 quotation? I'm having a hard time with the links and apologies if it's already been used, I did check the archives. <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 14:15, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I don't really like WP:REVERT as the link for rebuild, but then again I can't think of anything better either. Guess I'll just shut up.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Maybe due to the nature of this quotation, not to use links at all. More as a memorial for those affected by 9/11? We could either -> link it to Giuliani or the September 11 attacks. I don't know it's still quite a sensitive subject. <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 14:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment No opinion on this suggestion, but the current motto was intentionally placed on September 11th, despite it not being entered as a special nomination: . Even though that phrase does come from an unrelated movie, I had thought it would also serve as a sort of memorial, especially considering the links. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 21:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't notice that. The current one is appropriate. Maybe we can keep this one for next year? <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149; tk cs gy 22:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That'll work. We've had special nominations sit around for a long time before their schedule date comes up. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 04:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Support: It works fine, but I don't know how people would take it if we relate this to Wikipedia. I mean, 9/11 is sensitive subject to the Americans isn't it? C h a m a l    Talk   ±  13:55, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral. I think that the linkage is clever, but I agree with Chamal that 9/11 is rather a sensitive subject to America. <font face="Papyrus" color="#7B68EE">Top <font face="Papyrus" color="#9966CC">Gear <font face="Papyrus" color="#8A2BE2">Freak 17:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. Not a bad quote, but I'm a bit unsure about the WP:BLOCK linking. <font face="Papyrus" color="#9966CC">- <font face="Papyrus" color="#7B68EE">down <font face="Papyrus" color="#9966CC">load  <font face="Papyrus" color="#7B68EE">| <font face="Papyrus" color="#8A2BE2">sign!  03:56, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree about the link. Perhaps WP:SUCCEED? --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 18:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * support as per user:download --88wolfmaster (talk) 23:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support, but it is a bit too American. <font color="MediumSeaGreen">Math <font color="Lime">Cool <font color="LimeGreen">10 <font color="MediumSpringGreen">Sign here! 22:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose as an American, until and unless the links are changed to non-vandalism related topics. Dispute resolution, maybe. We need motivation and inspiration for the future here folks, not a reminder of the present situation. --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak support - I think it's a good moto, I think the WP:BLOCK link sould be changed. I would then Support it. <font face="Abbey Old Style SF" color="#8B0000">WVRMAD •<font face="Plantagenet Cherokee" color="#2E8B57">Talk  •<font face="Iskoola Pota" color="#4682B4">Guestbook  17:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

(no consensus, and could perhaps do the trick for this year's anniversary)  Kayau  David Copperfield  MOBY DICK   the great gatsby  12:42, 2 August 2009 (UTC) ✅ for Motto of the day/September 11, 2010 (per consenus: 9 in support, 1 neutral and 2 opposes) Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  12:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Strongest Possible Support I think that the links work, and this quote shows up all over the place on that day. Hi878 (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐) 15:44, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  22:01, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - after almost a year's consideration, I've decided that this is too American, lacking one of the greatest spirits on our encyclopaedia: NPOV.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:16, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I do not think that it being American focused is bad. While I like the idea of no links, which would intensify the memorial, that leaves it with no connection to WP. I'm a little unhappy with the links for "rebuild" and "skyline", so possibly another version would be good. Overall though, I can definitely support this as a nice memorial. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ mostly edit 1 versions with some minor changes in links discussed later. Different mottos used for New Years

→ On the Nth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me...
On the Nth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me...


 * For the Christmas series opening line - see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose in favour of Edit 2. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:03, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

→ On the Nth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me...
Edit 1 Suggested opener, with Jimbo as the gift giver. Stephen! Coming... 12:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose in favour of Edit 2. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:03, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

→ On the Nth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me...
Edit 2 Suggested opener, with Wikipedia instead of Jimbo. Stephen! Coming... 12:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Conditional Support ~ If the whole series (except January 1, 2011) will be approved. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:03, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

=== → On the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... A Partridge in a Pear Tree ===
 * For 25th December – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 1 for 25th ~ Somewhat standard linkings, but it'll start discussion! --Smaug123 (talk) 21:58, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Works well. Stephen! Coming... 16:06, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the first day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 2 for 25th –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

=== → On the second day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree. ===
 * For 26th December – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Two Turtle Doves
Edit 1 Well, if FA is for day 1, GA should be for day 2! Stephen! Coming... 16:05, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the second day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 2 (for 26th) ~ full version with small or bold text and all links. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

===→ On the third day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree ===
 * For 27th December – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the third day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 1 (for 27th) ~ full version ; needs link for "3 French Hens". –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

===→ On the fourth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 4 Calling Birds  3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree ===
 * For 28th December – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the fourth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 1 (for 28th) ~ full version; needs links.... –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

===→ On the fifth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree ===
 * For 29th December – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

→ Five Golden Rings
Edit 1 Five Golden Rings? Gotta be the Five Pillars! Stephen! Coming... 12:52, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the fifth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 2 (for 29th) ~ full version ; needs links... . –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

===→ On the sixth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree ===
 * For 30th December – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the sixth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 1 (for 30th) ~ full version ; needs links... . –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:58, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

=== → On the seventh day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 7 Swans-a-Swimming  6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree ===
 * For 31st December – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose in favour of this one. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the seventh day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 1 (for 31st) ~ full version ; needs links... . –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose in favour of this one. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Support this for 30th December in addition to 6, and then both 8&9 on 2 January. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court

===→ On the eighth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 8 Maids-a-Milking 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree ===
 * For 1st January – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose - can we miss out this one? Include it in the 2nd Jan version (so 2nd Jan stays as it is, with both 8 Maids and 9 Ladies new) but we need a special New Year one. --Smaug123 (talk) 21:55, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of this one) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

=== → On the ninth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 9 Ladies Dancing 8 Maids-a-Milking 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree ===
 * For 2nd January – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the seventh, eighth and ninth days of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 9 Ladies Dancing 8 Maids-a-Milking 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 1 (for 2nd Jan. 2011; if the nomination for the 31st of December 2010 (7th day of xmas) will be rejected) ~ full version ; needs links... . –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the eighth and ninth days of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 9 Ladies Dancing 8 Maids-a-Milking 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 2 (for 2nd Jan. 2011; if the nomination for the 31st of December 2010 (7th day of xmas) will be approved) ~ full version ; needs links... . –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:49, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

===→ On the tenth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 10 Lords-a-Leaping 9 Ladies Dancing 8 Maids-a-Milking 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree ===
 * For 3rd January – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the tenth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 10 Lords-a-Leaping 9 Ladies Dancing 8 Maids-a-Milking 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 1 (for 3rd) ~ full version ; needs links... . –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

===→ On the eleventh day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 11 Pipers Piping 10 Lords-a-Leaping 9 Ladies Dancing 8 Maids-a-Milking 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree ===
 * For 4th January – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the eleventh day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 11 Pipers Piping 10 Lords-a-Leaping 9 Ladies Dancing 8 Maids-a-Milking 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 1 (for 4th Jan. 2011) ~ full version ; needs links... . –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:00, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

===→ On the twelfth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 12 Drummers Drumming 11 Pipers Piping 10 Lords-a-Leaping 9 Ladies Dancing 8 Maids-a-Milking 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves And a Partridge in a Pear Tree. ===
 * For 5th January – see here for full discussion. Stephen! Coming... 12:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

==== → On the twelfth day of Christmas, my true love gave to me... 12 Drummers Drumming 11 Pipers Piping 10 Lords-a-Leaping 9 Ladies Dancing 8 Maids-a-Milking 7 Swans-a-Swimming 6 Geese-a-Laying 5 Golden Rings 4 Calling Birds 3 French Hens 2 Turtle Doves A Partridge in a Pear Tree ==== Edit 1 (for 5th Jan. 2011; last) ~ full version ; needs links... . –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:04, 30 November 2010 (UTC) <ol><li> Manual of Style (layout) for 6 Geese-a-Laying; </li><li> WikiProject Swimming for 7 Swans-a-Swimming; </li><li> WikiProject Drum Corps for 12 Drummers Drumming.</li></ol> –p joe f (talk • contribs) 19:26, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I support all except #6, 7, and 12. Those don't make sense to me. We could conceivably link to different aspects of WP. Some ideas: wikiprojects, collaboration, portals, DYK, ITN, etc. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 16:28, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply: Yes, I know. I've used the numbers (6, 7, and 12) instead of the "gifts". :) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 16:38, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:12 may not work in future as i have nominated it for deletion. Simply south (talk) and their tree 19:57, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support all except the ones pointed out by PoL as they don't make sense. ~  Nerdy Science  Dude  01:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support per PoL and NSD. <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  14:55, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: okay, there is little time. What about:
 * Support I like that idea ^ <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  20:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * that works! <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:51, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose All Have I said that I hate this idea yet? <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 03:09, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Emergency Strong Support - I really like this and, given that Christmas Day is in 9 hours by my clock, we'd better get a move on! I'm going to approve this whole Christmas series in about three hours (sorry Hi878, but most people seem to like it - lots of Supports and we seem to have come out with a great set of links!) --Smaug123 (talk) 15:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't forget to not overwrite 1st Jan. Simply south (talk) and their tree 18:06, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

✅ edit 2 per consensus (not all located here).

→ Year's end is neither an end nor a beginning but a going on, with all the wisdom that experience can instill in us.
For new year's eve, 2010 Secret Saturdays   (talk to me) 21:13, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Perfect! I love it! Hi878 (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh... No links. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 03:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Yes, it's perfect, and I like it too, but IMHO it needs a set of links. I have some ideas about that, but there is enough time ahead of the 31st of December (^___^). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - Nice motto but it needs some links, then I would Support or Strong support it. <font face="Abbey Old Style SF" color="#8B0000">WVRMAD •<font face="Plantagenet Cherokee" color="#2E8B57">Talk  •<font face="Iskoola Pota" color="#4682B4">Guestbook  11:47, 30 May 2010 (UTC) Make that Weak oppose, it needs links and Edit 1 has them. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#8B0000">WVRMad •<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#2E8B57">Talk •<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#4682B4">Guestbook  21:43, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support unless some links are added into the motto. — MC10 ( T • C • GB •L)  05:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - ???  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:43, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

→ Year's end is neither an end nor a beginning but a going on, with all the wisdom that experience can instill in us.
Edit 1 for new year's eve 2010 w/some links. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - Better than without links, but I'm not sure about WP:EAR for the last link. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#8B0000">WVRMad •<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#2E8B57">Talk •<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#4682B4">Guestbook 21:42, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - EAR? Why? <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 03:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

→ Year's end is neither an end nor a beginning but a going on, with all the wisdom that experience can instill in us.
Edit 2 for new year's eve 2010 w/Who writes Wikipedia for the last link. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - Perfect! <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 03:34, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

✅ edit 1 per consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 22:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Why drive a car, when you can ride the bus!
A little quote that I think would to best on Earth Day 2010. I'm not sure about the links, but what do you think? &mdash; Coasterge ekperson  04 ' s talk @May/26/09 03:45
 * Weak oppose; I do not understand the links. "Ride the bus" makes me think of WP:TEAMWORK, but I do not know of a possible contrasting link for "drive a car". --UberScienceNerd Talk Contributions 17:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose and suggestion Maybe do WP:STUB and WP:FA, instead? --I dream of horses (T) @ 03:34, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose to first version. Weak oppose to I dream of horses version.  Kayau  David Copperfield   MOBY DICK   the great gatsby  08:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per UberScienceNerd. <font face="Abbey Old Style SF" color="#8B0000">WVRMAD •<font face="Plantagenet Cherokee" color="#2E8B57">Talk  •<font face="Iskoola Pota" color="#4682B4">Guestbook  17:58, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

(too few opinions)  Kayau  David Copperfield  MOBY DICK   the great gatsby  12:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Support Maybe next year? Hi878 (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Changed my mind. The links are awful. My suggestion is below. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 23:14, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 *  Support  (for April 22, 2011) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:13, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support for April 22, 2011. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ • ✐) 15:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Support for April 22, 2011. Secret Saturdays   ( talk to me )  19:24, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - nope, those links simply don't cut it. I could support I dream of horses' version. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Why drive a car, when you can ride the bus!
Edit 1 for Earth Day 2010 2011 ( 2010 2011-04-22) ~ I think thes one seems much better. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8  <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 23:15, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Strong Support - the links contrast and are relative to the difference between riding a bus and driving a car. <font color="Red" face="Tahoma">Fridae&#39;§ <font color="Red" face="Tahoma">Doom &#124; <font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">Talk to me  10:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 *  Weak oppose  - how is driving a car equated with petty vandalism? &mdash;<font color="gray" face="Times New Roman">La Pianista  ♫ ♪ 17:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Ah, I see now. In the context of Earth Day, this makes sense. &mdash;<font color="gray" face="Times New Roman">La Pianista  ♫ ♪ 17:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - these links work quite nicely, Hi. Good job. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court
 * Somewhat skeptical support - I support the ban on private cars; however, this motto, when equating car-driving with vandalism, may anger some drivers because the don't drive for the sake of pollution, but for the sake of convenience, while vandals vandalise for the sake of vandalising.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:41, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support this version. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:35, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - rather surprising, but clever and certainly interesting. :) Cordially, Esther Clementina   talk  08:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

We all need a little inspiration these days, for the opposite of inspiration is expiration.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - The second link is iffy. This will do, but a better one would be fantastic. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


 * - Not enough opinions. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 00:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - I like. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 19:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support (I like it too) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:27, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Very Weak Support - Per Hi878 <font face="Candara" color="navy">MMS <font face="Candara" color="red">2013  20:24, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

One needs to know how to walk before one can fly.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose - this one doesn't make sense to me. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 13:27, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I get the idea, but the second link is crap. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:19, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

One needs to know how to walk before one can fly.
Edit 1 ~ Replaced WP:PROJECT with WP:DEV ... any better? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:59, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Yep, that's what I was thinking. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:20, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * - Not enough opinions. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 00:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - definitely better. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 04:04, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - Nice one. <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  20:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - <font face="Candara" color="navy">MMS <font face="Candara" color="red">2013  20:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

✅ edit 1 per consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

→ War is what happens when language fails.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Suggestion - Change the end. I'd use the word diplomacy. Ventric (talk) 17:12, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - "[WAR] is what happens when [CIVILITY] [TALK PAGE GUIDELINES]." Huh? <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:19, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

→ War is what happens when language fails.
Edit 1: using Negotiation and Gaming the system. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm not too happy with WP:GAME. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

→ War is what happens when language fails.
Edit 2: using Arguments to avoid in edit wars and Gaming the system. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm not too happy with WP:GAME. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

→ War is what happens when language fails.
Edit 3: using The Last Word and Gaming the system. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm not too happy with WP:GAME. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:00, 1 December 2010 (UTC)


 * - Not enough opinions. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 00:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose all - none of them work as well as I'd like, although I like the general premise. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 04:07, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

→ If you want to go quickly, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - This gives off the wrong message for DYKs, and even if that weren't the case, the links for "alone" and "want" don't quite work. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:17, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


 * - Not enough opinions. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 00:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd like it better if "go quickly" had no link, "go alone" linked to WP:BOLD, "go far" linked to WP:FA, and "go together" linked to WP:CON. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:34, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - definitely agree that it makes DYK's look bad. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 04:08, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

→ If you want to go quickly, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.
Edit 1 per Gonzonoir. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Neutral it's OK, perhaps go alone should be replaced with WP:STUB and go together with WP:CO? <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  15:19, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

=== → People who believe they have the power to exercise some control over their lives are healthier, more effective and more successful than those who lack faith in their ability to effect changes in their lives. === ~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Many of the links make no sense. For example, linking "lives" to WP:BAN seems rather strange to me. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:14, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


 * - Not enough opinions. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 00:51, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - actually, in context of the previous phrase, the linking for "lives" doesn't seem so bad. I rather like the entire motto. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 04:10, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:34, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

✅ per weak consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

→ November is Movember
Simply south (talk) 00:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it, made me laugh! Derild  49  21  Review Me!  01:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - :) <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 00:48, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 04:12, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 16:32, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

→ Fate has chosen him. A fellowship will protect him. Evil will hunt them.
And another, little simple maybe?... Derild  49  21  Review Me!  23:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Not quite as impressive as what you did with he other one, but this one still works. :) <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:02, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Is this from Lord of the Rings? Simply south (talk) 02:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sort of; I am pretty sure that he made it up, but it has that theme. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 02:17, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It actually is one of the taglines I found from here. Forgot the arrow! Derild  49  21  Review Me!  02:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I weak support. Simply south (talk) 00:55, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - the only thing against this one is that the links are commonly used, but plenty of those are still approved, and I rather like what you did with this. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 04:13, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 16:34, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

===→ A wizard is never late, Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early; he arrives precisely when he means to!=== Who doesn't enjoy Lord of the Rings? Derild 49  21  Review Me!  23:14, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - When I saw that it was an LotR quote, I thought "Oh god... This will be awful." However, you did a fantastic job, and I would like to commend you for surprising me with such good linking. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - LOTR!!! Terrific linking! <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 04:09, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Excellent job, the links fit very nicely. :) Clementina   talk  01:06, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:56, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

→ Didgeridoo to you too!
Good ol' insult sword-fighting. Simply south (talk) 00:04, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Fantastic! I love it. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 00:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:57, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - makes me laugh! <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 04:17, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Imagination is the key to individuality
Simply south (talk) 19:07, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I wouldn't call "Reliable Sources" imagination, personally. Seems to send the message that sources can be made up. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:21, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think Simply south was hoping you would read it "Reliable sources [are] the key to Good Articles". <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 20:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know. However, linking "Imagination" to "Reliable Sources" seems to say "Imagining sources is the key to Good Articles." <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 22:27, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you come up with something better if that is how it seems? Simply south (talk) 19:52, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I cannot, unfortunately. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 20:55, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Imagination is the key to individuality
Better? Simply south (talk) 12:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Yes. :) <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 03:59, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - much better. I like the quote. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 04:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like this better than the first one; simple, sweet, and sensible. :) Clementina   talk  01:07, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Edit 1 for February 5, 2011. Unanimous support. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 00:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

The essence of community, the essence of spirit and the essence of celebration. We've got it all.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Very good job. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 19:55, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - good! <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 20:02, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 12:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

→ Imagination is a force that can actually manifest a reality.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Love it, amazing. Derild  49  21  ☼  01:43, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Nice work. Ventric (talk) 17:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems fine. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:18, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 19:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 12:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

=== → Head On, apply directly to the forehead. Head On, apply directly to the forehead. Head On, apply directly to the&mdash;HEAD OFF! === ~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - this one made me laugh! <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 13:28, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Almost Support - I like it as well. However, you should fix the source link, because it points to a disambiguation page. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:16, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ I got a headache ... but the arrow link is now fixed (^____^). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 20:00, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 12:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

→ The most wasted of all days is one without laughter.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 01:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems fine. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:14, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Great job. :) Clementina   talk  06:08, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support + ROFLMAO –p joe f (talk • contribs) 20:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 12:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Civility + Collaboration = Content Creation!
Self-made. Acather96 (talk) 21:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Sorry, but it's pretty bland and boring. Derild  49  21  ☼  23:11, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I hate it. I'm sorry, but I can't think of a gentler way to put it. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 05:17, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose It just doesn't have direction. I mean, I understand we want people to make thoughtful, substantive additions to Wiki, but I think the message should be frilled up a little. Ventric (talk) 06:59, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - per above, it's just too bland. <font face="Abbey Old Style SF" color="#8B0000">WVRMAD •<font face="Plantagenet Cherokee" color="#2E8B57">Talk  •<font face="Iskoola Pota" color="#4682B4">Guestbook  16:16, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 19:52, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

→ I can't make bricks without clay.
Does this work? :) Love, Clementina   talk  10:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps clay can point to WP:EDIANS, considering it takes more than one person to write an article. It also seems more optimistic. :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  11:14, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - Good message. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 13:32, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it this way. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 13:49, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - sure!   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 20:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose ~ It's untrue. You can start an unsourced article. Many Stubs, Start, and C-Class articles are unreferenced. My suggestion (Edit 1) is to use Starting an article for the last link. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I slightly prefer this to Edit 2. Even if it isn't always true, I think that it's good to encourage people to create articles with good sources and references - otherwise it's a nightmare trying to get the article to a higher standard later on. <font face="Abbey Old Style SF" color="#8B0000">WVRMAD •<font face="Plantagenet Cherokee" color="#2E8B57">Talk  •<font face="Iskoola Pota" color="#4682B4">Guestbook  16:21, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2; 5 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

→ I can't make bricks without clay.
Edit 1 with WP:CREATE instead of WP:RS. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Well, obviously. I think that this is a bit too simple and obvious. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 22:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I understand what you mean - but I would find it awfully hard to make an article without creating it in the first place! <font face="Abbey Old Style SF" color="#8B0000">WVRMAD •<font face="Plantagenet Cherokee" color="#2E8B57">Talk  •<font face="Iskoola Pota" color="#4682B4">Guestbook  16:23, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

→ I can't make bricks without clay.
GAs are great building blocks towards better articles. Edit 2. Simply south (talk) 22:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support I like the original a tiny bit more than this one. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 22:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Prefer this one. Derild  49  21  ☼  18:54, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Great message and the links work. <font face="Candara" color="navy">MMS <font face="Candara" color="red">2013  12:53, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - This is much better! <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 17:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

- The support for the original and edit 2 seems to be about equal; more discussion needs to be had. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8  <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 22:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support edit 2 - it addresses Pjoef's point and it avoids the much-overused Featured Article. --19:06, 28 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smaug123 (talk • contribs)
 * Support Yeah, I think this link fits better than my original. Great job, SS!  Clementina   talk  08:08, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support I concur -- it is a better, more thought out way of expressing the idea. Good show. Ventric (talk) 07:01, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Somewhere just between weak support and support - I prefer the original slightly (see my above comment) but I don't mind this one either. <font face="Abbey Old Style SF" color="#8B0000">WVRMAD •<font face="Plantagenet Cherokee" color="#2E8B57">Talk  •<font face="Iskoola Pota" color="#4682B4">Guestbook  16:30, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Support (Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

✅ (Edit 2) for Motto of the day/January 31, 2011 (per consensus; 10 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Decisions, decisions
I've heard this plenty and thought why not have a (sort of) self-referential quote? Simply south (talk) 22:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - :) I like it. It made me laugh. When I saw the edit summary, I thought that you had moved nominations to the decisions page. :) <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 22:22, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - It fits and brings attention to MOTD. I like it! <font face="Candara" color="navy">MMS <font face="Candara" color="red">2013  12:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - if for no other reason than that it will make me laugh! <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 12:59, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Nice. ;) Clementina   talk  08:07, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ - per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

We all bloom towards the sunlight.
I read it here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11467235) in an interview by the BBC (right at the end of the page). The full line the interviewee said was: "teachers can have an influence that can reach long beyond the classroom, unlocking ambitions. We all bloom towards the sunlight." It kind of inspired me today, so I thought might also be good for Wikipedia (essentially a teaching tool) - not sure whether the motto should be reworded to fit in more with the whole of the sentence, or just kept to the shorter version I have suggested. Marmouse999 (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi there! :) I like the quote. Do you think you could you come up with some links this could be related to Wikipedia? Maybe something like "We all bloom towards the sunlight." These links don't really fit well, but I'm just trying to use them as an example. :) Love, Clementina   talk  00:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Clementina, thanks, glad you like it :) Do you mean something like this: We all bloom towards the sunlight - as in refer to some Wikipedia pages, or do you mean to relate it to Wikipedia itself (in which case we could, at a stretch use Wikipedia as the sunlight use your suggested links). Do you think we should also mention that it is a quote from Lenny Henry? Marmouse999 (talk) 09:22, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry, we usually have to make it relate to Wikipedia or go to a page on its policies or important essays, instead of encyclopedia articles. :) And yes, it would be very helpful if we could add that Lenny Henry said this. So how about... Clementina   talk  10:43, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Needs links. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 20:15, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south (talk) 23:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

→ We all bloom towards the sunlight.
Edit 1 per above. :) Hope this works, Clementina   talk  10:43, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, that seems fitting - good job :) Marmouse999 (talk) 11:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Or perhaps you could find something to replace the five pillars. Hmmm. - Reconsider  | speak  11:37, 7 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Conditional Support - This or mine work. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 20:15, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - This is my favorite of the three proposed mottos with this quote, because it makes the most sense and has a good message. Love it! <font face="Candara" color="navy">MMS <font face="Candara" color="red">2013  12:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south (talk) 23:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

→ We all bloom towards the sunlight.
Edit 2 ~ This one also has a good message, I think. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8  <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 20:15, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south (talk) 23:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

→ We all bloom towards the sunlight.
Edit 3 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:39, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support - This is good, but I prefer mine. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 13:31, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - sorry Hi, but this one makes more sense to me. Articles develop towards FA, whereas we have to work towards developing them. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 13:50, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

'all - no strong consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Support - I agree, I prefer this one. Derild  49  21  ☼  17:57, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ edit 3 per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:08, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Trust me, I'm a doctor
It looks like i have submitted this one in the past but I'll try again. Simply south (talk) 12:16, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it. The nomination before was declined before, but it used different linking, so I think that this will be fine. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 19:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - and the quote is on a Dr. Seuss shirt though I'm not sure if he said it... Derild  49  21  ☼  17:58, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/January 28, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 14:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

→ One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other.
I was sorta inspired by this very interesting picture (shown on the right) on Sonia's talk page. Pity that pictures aren't allowed with quotes, no? ;) -- Clementina  talk  13:02, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose I would take out the "cannot understand" link, or find a better one. Once that change is made, I shall support. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 20:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose (original and Edit 1) ~ Half and half is too much. Isn't? It seems say that there are around the same numbers of editors and vanda1z. For the same reason, I do not like the image too. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:55, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

→ One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other.
Edit 1 in desperate hopes of a support. :P Clementina   talk  12:25, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good now. :) <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 19:34, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - <font face="Candara" color="navy">MMS <font face="Candara" color="red">2013  12:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I really like this one, and wish we could send out the picture with it! <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 13:02, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Edit 1 for January 27, 2011. Unanimous support for this version. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 22:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Being middle-aged is like a car going off a cliff, you think all is going well then... Bang
First attempt so tell me if you think it needs editing. Please tell me over ways of ending. Cooltiger989 (talk) 12:18, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * A few questions. Who said this quote or did you make it up? Also, could you come up with some links about, or some way this could be related to, wikipedia? Also, am i the only one who finds this a little depressing? Simply south (talk) 17:18, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I share Simply south's concern. This quote seems a little, um, sad, sorry. There are many great middle-aged editors here and they might find this rather depressing. Clementina   talk  00:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * How about if the last link changes to something related to flying or soaring? So you think middle age will be okay, and it turns out to be better than okay Marmouse999 (talk) 09:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm still concerned about this and to answer this and the question on the quote above, yes they should refer to parts of Wikipedia itself, not just articles. Simply south (talk) 10:06, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I do not know where to start, well, first of all this seems to have been Cooltiger989's last edit (atm, 2010-10-19) on Wikipedia and for this reason, I think he did not respond to our questions. We have to say that we have a new "poet" (^____^) because a web search of the phrase produced no results. I do not find it depressing, that's life. The problem is this: how do we use it on MOTD? Well, my first thought is to use articles. So, "middle-aged" might be an article that is half of the ratings scale (C-B). But, I do not like this very much because articles' quality (usually) increases with the passage of time. My second thought was about using editors. Then, we have three choices: 1. by longevity (years of contributions to Wikipedia), 2. by number of edits. 3. by user levels. I hope I'll be able to think something... and nominate one of them shortly. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:58, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose - The whole thing is depressing, and even if you add a source and links to project-space pages, I doubt that I'll like it then. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 20:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

- too depressing. Simply south (talk) 22:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

→ There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
This is my first nomination so be nice :). — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  12:20pm  •  02:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it. ~  Nerdy <font color="#0F0">Science <font color="#8d7">Dude  00:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:INSULT. Sorry abouth that. Simply south (talk) 08:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't like "IDIOT" and "DYK". They seem not to fit. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 20:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south (talk) 22:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

→ There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
Edit 1 ~ How about this? — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  8:48pm  •  10:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - i find this one a lot better, i am just not sure on the end part of the quote. Simply south (talk) 17:21, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - I do like this, but I share Simply south's concern - and WP:IDIOT doesn't seem to fit well in this instance with DYK. Hmm.. -- Clementina  talk  00:20, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - I agree with Simply south - Sorry :( Marmouse999 (talk) 09:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Regretful oppose - despite how true the mottoes are, either will offend a lot of people, given that they are insulting. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:40, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Same as Original. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 20:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south (talk) 22:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

→ There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
Edit 2 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * This version (Edit 2) is my favourite. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support - The below is slightly better. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 13:30, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south (talk) 22:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

→ There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
Edit 3 ~ This one uses an external link to Don't be a dick instead of WP:IDIOT. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support I think this version is the best. While WP:IDIOT might be a little hurtful, this link is far better - and I like the way you linked "stupid questions" to WP:Q, pjoef - it fits nicely. :) Love, Clementina   talk  09:21, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it :) don't be a dick fits perfectly. I think using m:DICK would be better but it'd be insulting. GIven that not many people pay attention to the motto links themselves but more so the motto itself I don't see much collateral damage. — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  • 9:45pm •  10:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Best of the four. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 13:30, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ edit 3 per consensus. Simply south (talk) 22:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

→ An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

 * Support - Looks good. Thank you for the contribution! <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 21:00, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I must switch to Oppose, due to the fact that this has been used before. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 03:23, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good to me. ~  Nerdy <font color="#0F0">Science <font color="#8d7">Dude  22:18, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - nice quote. Clementina   talk  11:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC) Sorry, switching to Oppose as it seems to have already been used. → <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Clementina  [ <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Scribble  ] 09:21, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Opppose per FUI. See here, here, here and here. Simply south (talk) 17:43, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * If you mean WP:FUI I will have attributed it accordingly. :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  19:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No. One of the things about Motto of the Day is that often some mottoes are repeated over the years so once one has been used over and over again, it is added to Motto of the day/Nominations/Frequently used ideas. And generally it is frowned upon when it is used again. Simply south (talk) 21:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Yes, it has been used twice before, but the last time was two years ago (November 2008). Isn't it enough to be renominated? It also uses different links from the approved versions (but I do NOT like the WP:EDIANS wlink for "whole world" because editors are just a part of the "whole world", which still is Wikipedia.) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:25, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


 * - No consensus about reusing mottoes, but please try to get beyond the issue and come to consensus. Note that this is the last shot for this motto; it will be declined if consensus is not generated. <font face="Century Gothic"> THENEW M O  NO   00:14, 4 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Change to oppose - I appears it has already been used. ~  Nerdy <font color="#0F0">Science <font color="#8d7">Dude  00:24, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - it's been used before. <font face="Abbey Old Style SF" color="#8B0000">WVRMAD •<font face="Plantagenet Cherokee" color="#2E8B57">Talk  •<font face="Iskoola Pota" color="#4682B4">Guestbook  14:57, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

(per consensus; 1 in support and 4 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:00, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

===→ I would be true, for there are those who trust me; I would be pure, for there are those who care; I would be strong, for there is much to suffer; I would be brave, for there is much to dare. I would be friend to all, the foe, the friendless; I would be giving, and forget the gift; I would be humble, for I know my weakness; I would look up, and laugh and love and lift.=== Whew! We haven't had such a long one for a while...I think I exhausted my knowledge of suitable links there, though I'm sure there's more appropriate ones! In honour of Kayau, who penned some template-breakingly long mottos, and Clementina, for whom it seems this song was written :) <font color="#CC0099">sonia ♫  21:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Yay! I like these long ones. :) <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 03:23, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Absolutely. How can I resist when I am the one so undeservedly honored with such a very sweet message? ;) No, seriously...great job filling in all those links, they all seem to fit nicely, and the whole thing is simple, true, and catchy. :) Love, Clementina   talk  05:57, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - nice one. - Reconsider  | speak  00:22, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * [[File:Green support icon 15x15 pixels.png]] Support Definitely, though I do not understand the link to Hymn. :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  00:31, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Neither the author nor the hymn itself I would be true have articles, so I went with just linking to hymn the way one might link to proverb. <font color="#CC0099">sonia ♫  00:33, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Just out of curiosity, who was the author? :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  00:37, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Howard Arnold Walter - Reconsider  | speak  00:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:34, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/January 25, 2011 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:14, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

→ Don't mention the war
First attempt. Don't know if this has already been proposed.- Reconsider  | speak  11:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - nice and simple. Simply south (talk) 23:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ Yes, I like it! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:33, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support Excellent job, thank you for the good quote. :) → <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Clementina [ <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Scribble  ] 09:34, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Very good. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 20:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Like it. <font color="#CC0099">sonia ♫  21:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:42, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/January 24, 2011 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:12, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

=== → Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it. === Does this work? :) Clementina   talk  12:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good to me. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 18:19, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - the "child" doesn't make much sense to me. Derild  49  21  ☼  00:45, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I kind of meant it in the sense of "newcomer". :) WP:NEWCOMER redirects to there, so I thought it was the best page to link to. Clementina   talk  01:58, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support I see no problems, instead of using full links I suggest using WP:ADOPT and WP:NEWCOMER since the full link itself makes no sense in relation to the phrases themselves. Nice find though Clementina, I'm sure you'll remember me from Simple English Wiki. Regards, — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  12:41pm  •  02:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it. ~  Nerdy <font color="#0F0">Science <font color="#8d7">Dude  00:21, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ It's more than ok! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:38, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/January 23, 2011 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:09, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

→ A quarrelsome person in a dispute is like kerosene thrown on a fire.
Clementina  talk  00:44, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Nice one. Perhaps link "kerosene" and "fire"? <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 03:23, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Clementina   talk  02:20, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment: Those links for kerosene and fire are NOT good. What about WP:NOSPADE or WP:FWF for the whole second part??? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:56, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, so that's what Hi was talking about - sure, the fire link is a good idea, pjoef. :) Then how about..  Clementina   talk

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

→ A quarrelsome person in a dispute is like kerosene thrown on a fire.
Edit 1 per above. → <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Clementina [ <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Scribble  ] 08:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Support ~ better version. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:00, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Much better. Derild  49  21  ☼  02:12, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - no problems. — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  12:44pm  •  02:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good. ~  Nerdy <font color="#0F0">Science <font color="#8d7">Dude  00:23, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like this version. Marmouse999 (talk) 09:37, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good. Better than original. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 20:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Unanimous snow support! <font color="#CC0099">sonia ♫  21:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/January 22, 2011 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

→ There are few sights sadder than a ruined book.
→ <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Clementina [ <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Scribble  ] 13:28, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - excellent, no problems. Links fit perfectly with text :). — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  12:42pm  •  02:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it. ~  Nerdy <font color="#0F0">Science <font color="#8d7">Dude  00:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ well done, Clementina! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:36, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - absolutely. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 19:51, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Marmouse999 (talk) 09:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 18:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

→ A proverb quoted by fools is limp as a wet noodle.
Is this proverb limp? :) Clementina   talk  00:44, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Links work. Perhaps find one for "wet noodle"? <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 03:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: I agree with Hi878. What about WP:HOAX, WP:NONSENSE or WP:KUDZU??? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:35, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your helpful suggestions, pjoef - I've linked "wet noodle" to patent nonsense. :) Hope this works, → <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Clementina [ <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Scribble  ] 08:43, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support ~ I think it works fine now, but if this is a "nonsense" then it works fine too (^___^). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:02, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - links relevant. — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  12:45pm  •  02:45, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good. ~  Nerdy <font color="#0F0">Science <font color="#8d7">Dude  00:22, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ per nonsense er... consensus. Simply south (talk) 18:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

→ Criminals should be punished, not fed pastries.
Clementina  talk  03:56, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Good message. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:13, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:58, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - great reminder! <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 17:01, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Amazing! Derild  49  21  ☼  02:11, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Suitable to the encyclopedia :) — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  12:47pm  •  02:47, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

===→ Let them fight it out, friend. Things have gone too far, God must judge the couple: leave them as they are.=== <font face="Abbey Old Style SF" color="#8B0000">WVRMAD •<font face="Plantagenet Cherokee" color="#2E8B57">Talk  •<font face="Iskoola Pota" color="#4682B4">Guestbook  16:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - EW and CONSENSUS are iffy. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:18, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - Hmm, I understand the idea and I like it, but like Hi878, I'm not quite sure about some of the links. For example, I'm a little uncomfortable with "God must judge" being linked to community consensus, and I'm slightly confused with "leave them as they are" being linked to the idea of not insulting the vandals. Esther Clementina   talk  08:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - we're supposed to let these people attack each other until they explode? We just let the slow-moving wheels of consensus judge them, while they continue to wreak havoc? --Smaug123 (talk) 07:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Conditional Oppose - I think ANI would make a better link than CONSENSUS. I'll support if if the change is made. <font face="Candara" color="navy">MMS <font face="Candara" color="red">2013  20:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak support - the links don't fit that well. — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  3:05pm  •  05:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

per weak consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

===→ The growth of one blesses all. I am committed to grow in love. All that I touch, I leave in love. I move through this world consciously and creatively. === I apologize for linking to WP:BOLD for the last link, but I felt like nothing else would fit.  MMS  2013  14:57, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - The AGF one is iffy, but I think it works. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 04:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - the AGF and BOLD links might not be exactly the right links, but I like the general idea. Esther Clementina   talk  08:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:45, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - the links don't fit. — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  3:05pm  •  05:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ per weak consensus nonetheless. Simply south (talk) 23:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

It's OK to be a tree-hugger, but if you happen to hug a tree during a thunderstorm, you might get hit by lightning.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Very weak oppose - I think it all works, except for the "hug" and "tree" links. Those seem not to fit. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 23:35, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - 67.142.173.21 (talk) 21:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support I think it is great! LOL. WikiCopter RadioChecklistFormerly AirplanePro 18:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - I like that! <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"> PrincessofLlyr royal court 17:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak support - Some of the links don't flow smoothly, but the general sense of the quote is certainly amusing. → <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Clementina [ <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Scribble  ] 01:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - it's funny :) — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  3:01pm  •  05:01, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

→ "Your call is very important to us". You can't put me on hold, I'll put you on hold!
~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm sorry, but the links don't make sense. <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 23:34, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per Hi878  MMS  2013  14:34, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Sorry, but I don't understand these links, either. → <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Clementina [ <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Scribble  ] 09:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - WP:FEED would be more suitable than WP:BACKLOG. SOFIXIT doesn't really work at all. — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  12:48pm  •  02:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

→ Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 23:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - COMMUNITY/Experience is what you get when you FAC/didn't get what FA/you wanted. Sounds pretty ridiculous, doesn't it? <font style="color:#006400">Hi <font style="color:#DC143C">8 <font style="color:#800000">7 <font style="color:#FF4500">8   <font style="color:#0000CD">(Come shout at me!) 23:34, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - I see what you're aiming for, but the links barely make any sense to me.  MMS  2013  14:35, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose I do like the quote, but the links don't seem to fit. → <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Clementina [ <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">Scribble  ] 09:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose links don't fit. — Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм  •  Champagne?  •  3:00pm  •  05:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south (talk) 23:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)