Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 34

→ And the rest of our lives to do it.
BTW, I've finished To Cut A Long Story Short. I might be nominating quotes from that later.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:24, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - you really can't link it better than this. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 13:33, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ Yep! I agree with PrincessofLlyr. Absolutely great linking! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:43, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Support The linking's logical, the quote's nice, it's short and sweet, works for me.--Yaksar (let's chat) 11:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 18:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

→ Blushing requires blood.
 Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:37, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I like it, but I may require a bit more of an explanation.--Yaksar (let's chat) 02:19, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Admitting your mistakes requires courage.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 03:26, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I like this, both the quote and link. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 19:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support works for me--Yaksar (let's chat) 02:50, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ per weak consensus. Simply south...... 18:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

→ Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes.
No sig prior sig. According to the history User:Derild4921 make this suggestion -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 00:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I get the message, but the two WP:BREAK links make it confusing, and I don't like the idea of calling users taking wikibreaks "stupid".  MMS  2013  14:21, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The second link is to returning from a Wikibreak, not a Wikibreak itself. The quote is actually referring to that shortening a Wikibreak will cause you to make some bad choices. Derild  49  21  ☼  14:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I still think "stupid" is a bit harsh in this context.  MMS  2013  14:24, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I just... Don't like it. The message seems sort of weird, and I just don't feel comfortable supporting.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 17:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per MMS2013.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:47, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

per WP:SNOW. Simply south...... 18:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

→ All around the mulberry bush, the monkey chased the weasel.
I was comparing the concept of a monkey chasing a weasel, to a satyr chasing a nymph, when I thought, "How about that rhyme? There are things in Wikipedia it could tie in well with!" So, here it is. I was torn between "mulberry bush" linking to Wikipedia or Main Page, but went with the latter, in case linking to articles is a preferred-not. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 10:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support, very creative. Glimmer721  talk  17:09, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This doesn't have anything to do with a "cold and frosty morning", does it? Simply south...... 18:26, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose I don't see the connection between a mulberry bush and the Main page... Maybe link to Category:Articles that need to be copy edited. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 21:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -  MMS  2013  13:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support - if main page link is changed to something else, preferably "Wikipedia". (and yes, it is acceptable to link article in that case.) PrincessofLlyr  royal court 13:59, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Done! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 22:42, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:52, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Seems like a fun one.--Yaksar (let's chat) 09:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per chanage  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 18:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

→ Keep calm and carry on
A more historical take on my lower submission.--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - better phrase here than the one below. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 21:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ per weak consensus. Simply south...... 18:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

→ The future is unwritten
Mostly because I'm a a fan of the Clash.--Yaksar (let's chat) 05:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose Your future and Wikipedia's future are both already written. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 05:28, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm confused, is that a religious thing or something?--Yaksar (let's chat) 05:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support - Actually, I really like the way this is linked. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 21:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Support + I added the arrow link for Joe Strummer: The Future Is Unwritten, but a link to Joe Strummer (Never Forgotten, Always an Inspiration, Always Missed!!!) is good too. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support this version. WP not being a crystal ball has little to do with WP's future being written.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:44, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. This works, I like it. It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 14:23, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 18:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

→ The future is unwritten
This might be better. Edit 1. Difficultly north (talk) 21:36, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I considered it, but this one seemed to have more of a "no rush to get things done" message rather than one about the future being unclear.--Yaksar (let's chat) 23:09, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support but I prefer the original version. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:08, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Prefer original, per Yaksar  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:44, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I also prefer the original It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 14:23, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

in favour of original. Simply south...... 18:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

→ If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen
Sorry if I've been adding too many, I'm new to this, but it's fun!--Yaksar (let's chat) 19:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose-leaning Neutral a little weak... dunno. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 05:32, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Any advice for improvement? Thanks!--Yaksar (let's chat) 05:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ I like it as it is, but I added a couple of alternatives below. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:42, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. I don't find it weak; if you can't keep it cool, just let it go, for both WP and your own sake. ;-)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:46, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 18:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

→ If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen
Edit 1 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:42, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support - the 'get out' action doesn't fit as well as the above.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:46, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

in favour of original. Simply south...... 18:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

→ If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen
Edit 2 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:42, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support, same reason as above.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:46, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

in favour of original. Simply south...... 18:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

→ Don't cut off your nose to spite your face
It seems fitting: doing something detrimental for revenge just comes back to hurt yourself.Yaksar (let's chat) 19:02, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support agreed. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 05:32, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I really like this linking. Welcome to MOTD! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 21:05, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support + added arrow link to Cutting off the nose to spite the face. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support - cutting off your nose to spite your face hurts yourself, while disrupting WP to illustrate a point hurts WP.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:47, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Fair point. "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face, and then subsequently stab and/or get blood on everyone around you" just didn't seem to have the same ring to it though :). --Yaksar (let's chat) 12:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

→ Hold your horses!
Hold your horses. I also considered this linking to NOT or Recentism.--Yaksar (let's chat) 19:02, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Good linking. Also, welcome to MOTD. Simply south...... 12:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, happy to be here!--Yaksar (let's chat) 00:30, 10 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak Support You might want to work on your linking, or I might want to work on my supporting :P WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 05:33, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support + added arrow link again. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:51, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

→ An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
--Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 12:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - I'm not a fan of reusing mottoes.  MMS  2013  13:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Was there a previous motto? --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 13:09, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply - Yes, it was used in 2008.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Used before.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ 2008 is long gone, it is not listed in the frequently used ideas, and the set of links is (partially) different from the 2008 version. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... 23:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per pjoef. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 05:31, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Think outside the box
I came across this trying to find a link for the tongue-twister one below. .....htuos ylpmiS 23:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Support -  MMS  2013  13:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - September 15, 2007.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:39, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't know, this is different linking and that was over 3 years ago. Simply south...... 14:02, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... 23:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:04, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose Weak. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 05:30, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - reuse not a significant problem in this case and it's a unique, perfectly fitting link. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:02, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

→ This is the right time, Once in a lifetime
.....htuos ylpmiS 19:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Nothing wrong with it, although I do want to say that WP:BOLD is rather overused.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose ~ being bold is not something that happens "once in a lifetime" and any time "is the right time". What about WP:SIGNUP? (see Edit 1 below). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per Hi878. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 05:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

=== → This is the right time, Once in a lifetime === Edit 1 (WP:SIGNUP!) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... 23:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - more editors is never a bad thing.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - much more unique than the original. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 21:03, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ edit 1 per consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

The sixth Sheikh's sixth sheep's sick
Simply south..... 11:42, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't get the connection between the motto and the link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:14, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878. I don't want to snowball, but this is definitely not going to go through, might as well close it. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 17:26, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

The sixth Sheikh's sixth sheep's sick
The one above i was meaning don't take thing's too seriously at times but I guess it was too obscure. This one should be a little better. Toungue twister 1:0 Understanding Simply south..... 10:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I still don't think that people will get the connection. I think it is more of a quote problem than a linking problem.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think it's just that people are bragging about the obscurity of this tongue twister so much, it's not really obscure any more.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 01:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... 23:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 17:25, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

per WP:SNOW. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

The more times you ask for it, the less chance you have of getting it.
Useful saying in life, could be useful on Wikipedia, edit wars maybe? RCSprinter123 (talk) 18:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Please add links to project-spaces and add the person who says it "Name of person who said it|→" in " " before it.   RichardOwen97  talk  19:19, 18 January, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose this edit per Richard.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:29, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I agree with everyone above, but I do think that this would make a great motto with links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... 23:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

per weak consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

→ Begone, foul dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion!
Glimmer721 talk  23:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Overwhelming Support do not try to argue with me... THIS IS GREAT!!! punch, sting and all. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 17:24, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:07, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support - it's not bad, but the set of links can fit in a lot of quotes concerning warding off evil.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support – nice ring to it. -- Perseus  8235  15:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

→ General propositions do not decide concrete cases.
 MMS  2013 

→ General propositions do not decide concrete cases.
Edit 1 linking to the meta page  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -  MMS  2013  23:38, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:08, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ edit 1 per weak consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Your actions shape who you are
New motto --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    18:16, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - not sure about the second link...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:32, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I agree with Kayau, but I am going to be more assertive.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

- not enough discussion. Simply south...... 22:43, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Support ~ Why not? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Kayau. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 17:22, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Your actions shape who you are
Edit 1 - removed link.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:54, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Laughter is the best form of medicine
Bland but good. Simply south...... 15:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -  MMS  2013  14:31, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ not "bland" and very good. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:50, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Neutral, leaning toward Oppose Bland, but okay. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 17:21, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support - humorous pages are not the only things that make up the DoF.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:52, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

→ If music be the food of love, play on; give me excess of it.
I was looking at today's motto, and I suddenly thought of Twelfth Night, by Shakespeare. Remembering that this is part of a famous quote by the character Duke Orsino, I thought of various parts of Wikipedia that might connect to the words. This is my first nomination here, so I don't know if it's been used before or not. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 04:54, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I don't understand the 'excess' link. Could you please explain that a bit? Also, I think the WP link isn't really necessary.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 10:21, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I wanted to find something that would reflect that Wikipedia's overall content and community is constantly growing, but I couldn't find any project pages describing this. Therefore, I decided to fall back on the Statistics page, until someone could suggest a better link. And maybe the Wikipedia link was a little too much excess; I've removed that. :) Thanks! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 22:21, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTDONE may be appropriate.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 00:45, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Done! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 *  Support   Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 01:09, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Neutral - food is used metaphorically here, so the wikiProject link is not the best, I'm afraid.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose - The first two links don't strike me as particularly meaningful.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 06:31, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you suggest a better set of links? Wilhelmina Will (talk) 10:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - I must agree with the others: I don't like the first few links. (Kind of rough for a first contributor to MOTD, sorry) I've been looking and can't find the links I would like, but something along the lines of "If music (research, reliable sources) be the food of love (knowledge)...." keep the last two links. Anyone know something that could be used for those? PrincessofLlyr  royal court 20:00, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

How is it now? I've changed the links based on Princess of Llyr's suggestion. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 10:31, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Next time, try to use different edits (more in WP:MOTD/G). If someone opposes your original and doesn't check back, they'd be opposing your new one... Support.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:24, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Almost. The love link still needs to be changed...maybe WP:NOTE? I'm almost support, except for that link. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 15:14, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:Reliability redirects to a page about criticisms of Wikipedia. I would think that citing sources do not add to that. I still oppose. The love link should be changed as well. Making an edit in a sub-proposal is what you should do; take a look at others on this page to see what I mean.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:24, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:04, 31 January 2011 (UTC) Oppose I don't see the connection between citations and WikiLove. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 17:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC) ====→ If music be the food of love, play on; give me excess of it.==== Edit 1 (WikiLuV) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support There's the connection! WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 17:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

====→ If music be the food of love, play on; give me excess of it.==== Edit 2 (Citing sources) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support Good, but not as good as Edit 1. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 17:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

====→ If music be the food of love, play on; give me excess of it.==== Edit 3 (MoS/article development/editing/contributing) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Support see comment to Edit 2. WikiCopter (♠ • ♣ &bull; ♥ • ♦ &bull; simple • commons • lost • cvu • onau) 17:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

all - no consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

→ Loose lips sink ships
Forgive me if it's been done before.--Yaksar (let's chat) 08:29, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - good message and seldom used.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:41, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - awesome one. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 19:05, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ Could be, might be, may be. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:56, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 00:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

→ Shake 'n Bake
--Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 02:51, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't see how the links fit.  MMS  2013  13:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I see what you're getting at, but I don't quite like it. I have a suggestion.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south...... 23:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

→ Shake 'n Bake
Edit 1 ♠ Do any of you realize how long it has been since I actually nominated a motto or edit of a motto? Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 02:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Nice and simple. Copyright may be an issue ;)   RichardOwen97  talk  14:54, 23 January, 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ I like it too. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:30, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - obviously the time didn't hurt your motto creation skills. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 15:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Exemplifies common practice. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 17:59, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 23:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

=== → Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice. === --Tyw7 (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 02:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - both are too pessimistic.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:44, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per Kayau  MMS  2013  13:05, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - It's okay, but I have a better idea, but I can't find the page I am looking for yet. I'll nominate one when I find it.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

==== → Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice. ==== Edit 1 - A little less pessimistic. - <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  14:48, 22 January, 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment How Ice is related to FA? --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 23:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose - Wikipedia cannot end in featuredness.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 01:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I see about the article bit. However, an article does not 'end' being an FA.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:40, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - FA is a good thing, last time I checked.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:53, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - World is linked to article. And why can't ice be linked to a good thing? If both were linked to bad things, then every time people are going to oppose because it is too pessimistic. <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  10:16, 23 January, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Per Kayau  MMS  2013  02:23, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

==== → Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice. ==== Edit 2 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - most vandals are banned, not blocked, and a user may be both blocked or banned, so this motto may be misleading to a newbie.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:42, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply: Ice refers to IPs (^____^). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

per WP:SNOW. Simply south...... 23:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

One good turn deserves another
Simply south..... 09:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Question - how is WP:BOLD related to the motto?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You can feel proud you made that first step? And how comes you voting would be classed as evil? Simply south..... 14:55, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Er.. I don't think pride is the message behind the proverb. Voting is evil? I've been using the sig for quite a while...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 15:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I know but it could be interpreted as that every time you vote in particular, it is considered evil. Do i need a fish again? Simply south..... 15:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - What? I don't see how those relate.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

One good turn deserves another
edit 1. Slightly better? Simply south..... 15:27, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Support (both versions) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:20, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - this one. I don't think this (the other) one is nearly clear enough. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:02, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Youare meaning the other version is not as clear? Simply south..... 10:38, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my bad. Yes, I meant I like this one but I didn't think the other one was clear enough. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 16:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems fine, since you are encouraged to review someone after requesting a review.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - The message and motto fit very well.  MMS  2013  13:07, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high.
Famous war poem--<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    04:35, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support - it's OK except that vandals aren't necessary 'enemies'. I also tweaked the formatting  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Support -  MMS  2013  14:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Very good.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:02, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

=== → I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. === Famous quote --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm surprised it has never been used before. I also tweaked the motto's formatting a bit. Anywawys, what is the message you're bringing across?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:03, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * reBenefits of editing Wikipedia or becoming a Wikipedian<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    04:29, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Question - So why WP:RESEARCH?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:26, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Re: Because that;s the only page I found when searching benefits of Wikipedia --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    14:21, 17 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:24, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't like the second link at all, and the first is only acceptable. However, by all means, try as hard as you can with this one! This would be fantastic with good linking.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

=== → I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. === Edit 1 --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 12:55, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Very good job.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support much better, also happens I recently read the poem! Derild  49  21  ☼  23:48, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Do a good turn daily
This seems nice --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:05, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support -  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:07, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:25, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Short and sweet.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  17:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ How many more people have to be killed or hurt before a number 8 signal is necessary?
WP:PEND is controversial, so did not use. Kayau HAPI   B-DAY   WP  10:16, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - A good motto but I'm not 100% sure about semi-protection, you didn't link Pending Changes because it's controversial - but semi-protection is exactly what it is meant to stop. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  15:48, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply - yes, but a straw poll showed that a third of Wikipedians didn't like the system so I don't want to be accused of canvassing through the MOTD.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 01:58, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment what is a number 8 signal? Is it Typhoon_signal_No._8? --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:16, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply - yes.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 01:58, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Support + Answer to "How many more...: The higher the percentage of vandal edits, the greater the need for protection (6–50%). + Q/Suggestion: Wouldn't it be better to replace the first link, WP:ARTICLE, with, for example, Help:Page history (shortcuts: WP:PAGE or HELP:PH) or with something related to number of edits of a page, editing, and etcetera? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:00, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I like it the way it is, actually.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:59, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I think its fine as it is, though it might be hard to understand what a number 8 signal is. Derild  49  21  ☼  23:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ For the people, of the people, by the people
This seems grand --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - no link for the last bit. WP:Readers first may be appropriate for the first. Kayau HAPI   B-DAY   WP  10:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per Kayau, doesn't make sense without a last link. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  15:49, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I think that a third link is rather necessary, although I will say that this is the only one of these that isn't confusing.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:58, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Used before  MMS  2013  13:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ For the people, of the people, by the people
Edit 1 <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk   I'M 14 TOMORROW 15:02, 16 January, 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - I'm not too sure about the second link. I think there's a better link for the third, which is about the fact the WP is built by Wikipedians, but I've forgotten the name of the page.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil
 * Oppose - the more I think about the second link the more confused I get, can someone please explain ? WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  15:53, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose - mottos shouldn't need to be explained. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  17:02, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I do not like the second link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:57, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Used before  MMS  2013  13:12, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ For the people, of the people, by the people
Edit 2 --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    16:51, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support - this version is the best, but is still quite complicated. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:26, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - it makes sense but I suppose it is too complicated. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  19:56, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Too complicated. WVRMad, just because it is the best out of all of them, doesn't mean that it needs to be supported. If you think it is too complicated, oppose!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:57, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Used before  MMS  2013  13:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ For the people, of the people, by the people
Edit 3 --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:08, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - last link doesn't make sense, the link is talking about people who don't edit. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:16, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Readers aren't the ones who write Wikipedia, for the most part.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:56, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Used before  MMS  2013  13:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Suggestion --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - already in special nominations. Kayau HAPI   B-DAY   WP  10:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that :D --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    16:57, 16 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Obvious reasons (nominated elsewhere...).  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per above. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  19:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ To be or not to be?
Suggestion --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:37, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:MOTD/FUI. Kayau HAPI   B-DAY   WP  10:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Kayau. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  15:44, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Yep.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

per FUI. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem
How's this? --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:28, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - So, if you don't report vandals, you're a vandal? Doesn't really make much sense... Kayau HAPI   B-DAY   WP  10:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - not all editors fight vandalism, many just concentrate on writing and creating articles. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  14:44, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - What the heck‽ That isn't even close to being true!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:51, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

per WP:SNOW. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem
Edit 1 --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:14, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - some people just read WP and don't vandalise.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose - Wikipedia isn't here to be a reference tool, a place for people to learn and research - what's the point in just editing if you don't sit back and read it from time to time?  WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  17:56, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - So everyone that doesn't edit Wikipedia is a vandal? Please explain your view on this one, as I don't understand how that could be anywhere near true.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:51, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

per WP:SNOW. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Gotta catch 'em all!
This was approved several years ago with a link to WP:SOCK. Seeing as we are going by the new rules, it should be okay to nom this with diff links. Simply south (talk) and their tree 20:56, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

No consensus. <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  12:15, 15 January, 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:41, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm still opposing, partly because I still don't like reusing, but mainly because I despise that idiotic game-TV show/whatever. I don't want to subject people to that.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - reusing, and boring. But Hi878, I don't think your personal preference on the source of the quote is a good reason to oppose. :|  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 06:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If not, I oppose because I hate reusing mottos. People can take whichever one they prefer.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 06:49, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - if it's from several years ago, most people aren't going to recognize it. Personally, I think it's funny, both the quote itself and the way it's linked. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - per Kayau, if we're reusing mottos, can't they at least be the really good ones? WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:03, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Btw, you reopened this a day earlier than was meant to. It is 14 days, not 13. Simply south..... 09:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, badly counted :P <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97   talk   IT'S MY B-DAY TODAY! :D 16:37, 17 January, 2011 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday to you. Simply south..... 17:33, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday Richard!!! :D –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:44, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * And here's one very late Happy Birthday from me! WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:03, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

per Happy Birthday... I mean per no consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Gotta catch 'em all!
New suggestion --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:34, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - For the exact same reasons as the original.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:49, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Only you can prevent reckless editing
Comes from smoky the bear famous quote, Only you can prevent forest fire<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time!
 * Conditional Support - I'm not much in favor of editing the quote. I would support, however, if you used the quote's original form and linked "forest fires" to WP:Vandalism. An arrow link to this article would also be grand. (This is assuming the quote hasn't been used before).  MMS  2013  23:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't like that the quote was edited.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Only YOU can prevent forest fires.
Edit 1 - How's this?<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 00:53, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Support - it's a bit boring, but will do.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:15, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -  MMS  2013  22:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support - a bit bland. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  14:42, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support (edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:46, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm not willing to support bland. Sorry, everyone. :) I don't think the links make much sense, actually. "Only YOU can [AGF] [Edit Wars]" is rather strange, if you take it with the page titles.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:48, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - A variant of this was used before on November 4 of 2007, as you can see here.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:53, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

✅ per weak consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Only YOU can prevent forest fires.
Edit 2 --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 12:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I think that people would think that the first comes after the second (usually) and would think that the linking was odd as a result.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:32, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Only YOU can prevent forest fires.
Edit 3 --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 12:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - It seems sort of redundant to have both of those links, in my mind. Look at the page titles.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Only YOU can prevent forest fires.
Edit 4 --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 12:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Avoiding a list of arguments in edit wars prevents the edit wars themselves? Using the information on the first page would imply that you are already in one.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Reckless editing can ruin reputations (or lives)
A play on a world war 2 slogan.<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 21:54, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose - This seems to imply that if we get banned, we can't become a good editor of WP anymore, which is not true.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose - per Kayau. P.S. That's the second time I've spotted you forgetting to sign, you're getting slack! :D WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - What? No! Nothing moreto say than what others have said above.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Careless talk costs lives
How's this? <i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 01:04, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose - for the same reason with above. Also, vandalism usually result in blocks.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - per Kayau; it's not as bad as the original though - it's just too negative. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:09, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - What? No! Nothing moreto say than what others have said above.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Careless edits costs reputations
New suggestion --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    20:07, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - actually, vandalism has no effect on notability...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:32, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose - It doesn't make sense, did you mean Reliability of Wikipedia or something? WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:11, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - What? No! Nothing moreto say than what others have said above.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Think twice before clicking save
My own slogan.<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 21:54, 14 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose - No Project space links. <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  23:31, 14 January, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Per RichardOwen97  MMS  2013  00:46, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - I don't think it's much meaning here. However, it's clearly self-referential so links are not really necessary here.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I know this isn't what the message of the motto is meant to be, but to me it seems the motto is implying don't make any mistakes... or else! - whereas I think that as long as an edit was done in good faith any errors can easily be corrected and the editor notified. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  14:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually I was thinking of WP:VANDALISM and for WP:VANDALS to think twice before clicking save --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    16:55, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I know, it's just that some people could interpret it as I did at first. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  17:52, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Links, my dear sir.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Changing the world one edit at a time!
It is a play on the phrase changing the world one (something) at a time. I have used it in my sig and in WikiProject Software I changed the phrase "edit" to byte. --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 21:32, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Something with the same idea has been used before, as you can see here, but this one is different enough that I am fine with it. There was also another nominatiom, but it was declined, so I am not bothering to link it. However, although I am fine with using this, I think that the link is boring, and will oppose until someone can come up with a better one.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:34, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The present link is a bit too literal for my tastes.  MMS  2013  23:38, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - the motto itself it OK, but if you don't compare this one and the one used before carefully one might think it's a repetition.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 05:27, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per above. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  14:38, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Changing the world one edit at a time!
How this linking? --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 12:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Per WP:MOSLINK, please don't link 'world'. ;)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:35, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - apart from the link to 'world' (which as Kayau mentioned has to go per WP:MOSLINK) it's exactly the same as the original, just with capitalization on the 'edit'. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  14:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Don't like it at all.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Changing the world one edit at a time!
Edit 2 --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    17:18, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Changing the [research] one edit at a time? No. I don't like it. In addition to that, the WP:EDIT link is still there...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per Hi878, link to WP:RESEARCH doesn't make sense. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  19:47, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ I would not waste my life in friction when it could be turned into momentum.
 MMS  2013  21:03, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Good message.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - excellent motto.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - short and sweet. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  13:57, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ I like it too. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:53, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Best motto I've seen in my time here. <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  19:32, 20 January, 2011 (UTC)
 * I was about to comment on that being a bold statement, but then I checked and saw that you've only been here for eleven days. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:38, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Minds are conquered not by arms, but by love and magnamanity.
 MMS  2013  17:54, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Love is such a boring link... We need something new! Fresh! Exciting! :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:26, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - love is boring, but WP:OTHERUSERS is a great link and I don't think there's a link that is more appropriate than love. Let not this motto go to waste.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 07:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - wikilove is overused but I think the link for magnamanity is so good it makes up for it. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  13:56, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:57, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support and Comment - Nice motto. How about WP:CO for love if it's too boring and i believe the spelling is Magnanimity. <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  15:05, 23 January, 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Nice motto! -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)   Changing the world one edit at a time! 23:39, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ To interpret laws is almost always to corrupt them.
 MMS  2013  23:45, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems fine.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:48, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support - seems to imply that people always use policies to their advantage, unless I'm misinterpreting the motto.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 00:39, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't quite think that is the message; I think it's something more like "Whenever one attempts to interpret a law, they usually get it wrong."  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:36, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I shall keep my position but instead with pjoef's rationale.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 11:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: it's incomplete, without the first part ("Let all the laws be clear, uniform and precise. To interpret laws...") the meaning becomes ambiguous. Anyway, I think I'll support it (in any form). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:51, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - creative. I like Pjoef's earlier part of the quote too. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 15:15, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - this or the second version is fine (seeing as there isn't actually any difference). WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  13:40, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

→ To interpret laws is almost always to corrupt them.
Edit 1 - Wanted to make the last link more clear. Opinions?  MMS  2013  17:43, 11 January 2011 (UTC) ✅ per consensus. Simply south...... 23:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - 'Tis a link to the same page, my dear MMS2013.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:25, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I know, I just wanted to clarify that it went to BURO and not just WWIN.  MMS  2013  03:34, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You already had it linking to a section of it, though.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:27, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I don't mind which version we use, maybe this one is slightly clearer... I often use popups to quickly work out what a motto is about. The version might make it slightly quicker for people using that tool to work out, but apart from that I don't really mind - it's only 1 link. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  13:49, 16 January 2011 (UTC)



→ Remove wrapper, open mouth, insert muffin, eat.
 Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 12:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Very good! It's refreshing to get to support something without opposing three different versions first. :)   Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:28, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - very prettily expressed, with great links. :) Clementina   talk  11:03, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I don't think it's possible to put a whole muffin in your mouth and then swallow it whole. Wouldn't you choke? Simply south..... 20:58, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply - er... maybe American muffins are small enough? I dunno.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 06:19, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply - nope, most American muffins are too large also. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 19:49, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - good, despite the choking hazard. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 19:49, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I don't think anyone would interpret this as trying to eat a muffin whole.  MMS  2013  20:51, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I already did. :p Simply south..... 12:02, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - very good motto, but someone seriously needs to keep an eye on Simply south though... honestly WP:BEANS! WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  13:36, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Why? Simply south..... 09:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Because you try to eat a muffin whole :D But mini muffins can be eated --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    14:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure the running joke deserved other versions. Simply south..... 14:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    14:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Interesting fact - this page is currently the first result of the silly instructions in Yahoo! search.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

✅ per some sort of large positive consensus. Simply south..... 18:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Remove wrapper, open mouth, insert chocolate, eat.
No chocking risk :D --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    14:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - please do not change quotes, especially when the change has little WP-relevance.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per Kayau, it's not such a big deal that we have to go around changing quotes, the original is fine. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  17:49, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I agree with Kayau, and I also agree with Simply South in the original section. This joke wasn't worth adding proposals for.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:41, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

in favour of original. Simply south..... 18:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Remove wrapper, open mouth, insert mini muffin, eat.
Chocking risk averted --<i style="font-family:Kristen ITC; color:green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    14:25, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - please do not change quotes.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per Kayau. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  17:49, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I agree with Kayau, and I also agree with Simply South in the original section. This joke wasn't worth adding proposals for.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:41, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

in favour of '''original. '''Simply south..... 18:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

→ There is one cathedral in England that has never found it necessary to launch a national appeal.
From Colonel Bullfrog. I really recommend Archer. He's the best at short stories.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 06:01, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - No project-space links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 06:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Question - could you find a meta/WP essay about advertisements? Then I could replace it with the second link...  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 06:58, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - in favour of Edit 2. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  13:23, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Simply south..... 10:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

→ There is one cathedral in England that has never found it necessary to launch a national appeal.
Edit 1  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 06:01, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - No project-space links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 06:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - in favour of Edit 2. I don't see how this is any better than the original version anyway. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  13:25, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 2. Simply south..... 10:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

→ There is one cathedral in England that has never found it necessary to launch a national appeal.
Edit 2 - projectspace for second link. Does the first one really need to be projectspace? PrincessofLlyr royal court 14:44, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - It was quite obvious... why didn't I think of that? :P  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 10:23, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - That's why I ignored what you said; I was praying that you would be able to come up with that one. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 06:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - There are some people on Wikipedia that are in support of ads. See Advertisements  MMS  2013  23:03, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per WVRMad -  MMS  2013  14:18, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ Yes, there is a long history to this issue, MMS2013, but it's still true. In the future, who knows? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:04, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - last link is better than other versions. It doesn't matter whether there are arguments over having adverts, as long as there aren't adverts at the moment I'm fine with it. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  13:28, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

✅ edit 2 per consensus. Simply south..... 10:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Thomas Edison's light bulb shines light into dark places.
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">JamesDouch</b> • Talk  06:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Great, except for the fact that these all link to aticles, not project-space pages.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:40, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Edison's light bulb shines light into dark places.
Edit 1 ~ linking to project-space pages. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:26, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I do not like the first link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 12:28, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Suggestion Another edit? I don't know really, just seems like it needs something else :/ Otherwise, support. -- Wikiert T S C 20:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)


 * - No consensus for any of the edits.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

===→ Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. ===  Sophus Bie  (talk) 06:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - No. I don't like calling FAs perfection, and the other two links don't really make sense.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:49, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support ~ IMHO it perfectly fits FA. The philosophical meaning of "perfection" does not exist. Nothing is perfect. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose ~ (Wikipedia is a work in progress - Will it ever be done?) "Imagine that a featured article (FA) represents a finished article, one that does not need any further editing (this, of course, is not true, but a featured article is the closest thing Wikipedia has to a "finished" article)." Nothing on Wikipedia is finished or perfect. <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  15:35, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply + Suggestion: Yes, you are right, Wikipedia is a work in progress, but the "perfection" here is not Wikipedia, but a Featured Article (or FA-class articles). I think that FAs conform to the "Law of Conservation of Energy" ("nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed.") Excluding a few very rare cases, it's very difficult that a FA will lost its FA status because other editors who are involved in that article will not permit it. So, the article is transformed and changed, but its "energy", the FA status, will not be lost, and it remains "perfect". Anyway, what about using: "The perfect article" (shortcuts: WP:TPA/WP:PERFECT) instead of "Featured articles" for "Perfection"? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:26, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


 * - No consensus.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

→ That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.
 Sophus Bie  (talk) 06:28, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Verifiability can be destroyed by the truth? Huh?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 00:51, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Re: Verifiability starts with the following line: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth". –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:42, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:42, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


 * - No consensus.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

→ Today Wikipedia, Tomorrow Wikipædia.
~ <i style="font-size:small; font-family:Arial; color:#666990;">Qwerp</i> Qwertus  Talk  ツ   07:07, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Erm... - I'm not sure what to think of the links. I'm going to wait to see what others say, because I'm not sure what I think of it.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:56, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't get it - PrincessofLlyr  royal court 04:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

- not enough discussion. Simply south (talk) and their tree 21:40, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Q: Is there a reason why this is linked to the Encyclopædia Britannica??? Links: 1. About; 2. The future of Wikipedia. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:35, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
 * QeSTion + a couple of links


 * - No consensus.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

→ A successful man is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks others have thrown at him.
- I'm a newbie so please go easy :) <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  20:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm not sure about the GA link...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:12, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

→ A successful man is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks others have thrown at him.
Edit 1 WP:GA changed to WP:DEV <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  21:24, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Yes! That's good. By the way, when you make "Edit" proposals for a motto, you need to put them in a sub-heading, just so that the different mottos stay together.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:27, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support -perfect! Especially for a MOTD newbie! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 22:46, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Support (both versions) I think that GA is a necessary step on the path to develop an article from stub to FA. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:10, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

→ A successful man is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks others have thrown at him.
Edit 2 'lay a' to WP:DEV and 'firm foundation' to WP:GA - per pjoef. <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  15:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't like calling a GA a "foundation". For lots of articles, a GA is the end result, so...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - That's cool. I was just trying to use pjoef's idea. - <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  10:39, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Edit 1 for February 14, 2011. Unanimous support; no other versions got any supports.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:43, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Snow is like marmite. → You either love it or hate it
I think i can see this failing from being unusually written and i can't find a link to love. Not sure if this is a good, if somewhat unusual, motto. Simply south (talk) 19:20, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - you are correct to say that it is unusually written, but I like it. Partially just because it's different, and partly because you used some great links. I didn't even know about the petition. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 20:45, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - What is this??? I am supporting without demanding any changes first? Ack! The world must be ending!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 21:11, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support and I can't find a links for "love" too. Maybe a "petition against PIAR" or a "petition in favour of IAR"? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Original for February 13, 2011. Unanimous support.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 05:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

→ We haven't stolen anything. But we did get one hell of a 'steal'.
From The Steal  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 06:01, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support - In favor of Edit 1.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 06:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

→ We haven't stolen anything. But we did get one hell of a 'steal'.
Edit 1  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 06:01, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - This is much better than the other, in my opinion.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 06:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - much better than the first one. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:41, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:06, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

✅ - Edit 1 for February 15, 2011 Unanimous Support. <small style="border:1px solid #444;background:grey"> <strong style="background:grey;color:#FFF"> RichardOwen97  talk  12:15, 15 January, 2011 (UTC)