Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 36

→ The horror...the horror.
Apocalypse Now (1979) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:47, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose - It doesn't seem to have much meaning... I have an idea. Hi878 isn't home.   (Can I take a message?) 16:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose in favor of Edit 1 Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 20:24, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:35, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The horror...the horror.
Edit 1 Hi878 isn't home.   (Can I take a message?) 16:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Support Works for me. -- Σ ☭ ★  03:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support I actually get it! :). Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 20:24, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I'd never heard of WP:HELL before, and it's a good quote. Smaug123 (talk) 15:12, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support (edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 28, 2011 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:35, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ "(What is it?)" "The stuff that dreams are made of."=== The Maltese Falcon (1941) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose The links confuse me somewhat. I think I have an idea. Hi878 isn't home.   (Can I take a message?) 19:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

====→ "(What is it?)" "The stuff that dreams are made of."==== Edit 1 - If anyone can actually get the idea I'm trying to send across, I would love if you could make it a bit more clear. Hi878 isn't home.  (Can I take a message?) 19:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose, so is an article made out of a featured article? -- Σ ☭ ★  01:30, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The other way around, actualy; FAs=dreams, articles=the stuff. "What is it?" An article, which is what dreams (FAs) are made of. I think I might have a way to make it clearer; tell me what you think.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 16:17, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

====→ "(What is it?)" "The stuff that dreams are made of."==== Edit 2 - Any better? Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 16:17, 22 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Support -- Σ ☭ ★  17:22, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. This looks the best so far.  — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 06:32, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support (edit 2) better version. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:13, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 27, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ Our only hope today lies in our ability to recapture the revolutionary spirit and go into a sometimes hostile world declaring eternal hostility to poverty, racism, and militarism.=== Martin Luther King, Jr. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:03, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I like it, but I have a slightly better idea for one of the links. Hi878 isn't home.   (Can I take a message?) 18:58, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:29, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

====→ Our only hope today lies in our ability to recapture the revolutionary spirit and go into a sometimes hostile world declaring eternal hostility to poverty, racism, and militarism.==== Edit 1 - Hi878 isn't home.   (Can I take a message?) 18:58, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Σ ☭ ★  01:42, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Yep, that link is better, I think.  — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 06:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:22, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per Mr. Strad. Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 20:26, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 26, 2011 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:29, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ Sine ira et studio ("Without hate and zealousness") === Latin motto –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good. Hi878 isn't home.   (Can I take a message?) 18:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. I hadn't seen the "overzealous deletion" link before. Good find.  — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 06:33, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Yes, that looks like a good motto.  Rcsprinter   (talk)  19:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - WP: I just like it Smaug123 (talk) 10:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 21:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

How long is a piece of string?
Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 19:18, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment It can be however long and short we want... although nobody would have a one mile string. -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions ) 21:23, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Depends on the context. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 11:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Support I like this saying &#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:58, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I think that it is fine. Hi878 isn't home.   (Can I take a message?) 19:11, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 21:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Even he, to whom most things that most people would think were pretty smart were pretty dumb, thought it was pretty smart.
From The Salmon of Doubt.  — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 16:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Good link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:28, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support for obvious reasons -- Σ ☭ ★  05:36, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 18:29, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The Road to El Dorado
Nomination -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions )   Changing the world one edit at a time! 18:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I would leave the link off of "to". Also, to me, this doesn't seem very much like a motto.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * As per your suggestion, de linked to -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions )   → To be or not to be? 23:00, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak support - I thought "adminship was no big deal." Now if you changed it to beurucrat bureaucrat autoconfirmed... -- Σ  ☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  05:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Suggestions? -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions ) 21:08, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I've got one. -- Σ <sub style="font-size: 80%;cursor: crosshair;">☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  01:48, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 18:29, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The Road to El Dorado

 * Edit 1 What do you think? -- Σ <sub style="font-size: 80%;cursor: crosshair;">☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  01:48, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Beautiful!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 16:19, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 17:28, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 18:29, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
One of my favourite Douglas Adams quotes. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 04:41, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm a DNA fanatic,and I've even nominated a few mottos, so forgive me when I am really harsh on these. :) I don't get the second link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:27, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose both doesn't get the links. Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 17:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1'. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 18:29, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
Edit 1, with only one link. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 13:26, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -- Σ <sub style="font-size: 80%;cursor: crosshair;">☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  06:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support (edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:35, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Yes! Hi878 isn't home.   (Can I take a message?) 19:09, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per oppose to original. Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 17:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support and reply to WikiCopter: It is saying that time moves very quickly but there is no need to be in a hurry. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 17:12, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 18:29, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Every day is a winding road. I get a little bit closer. Everyday is a faded sign. I get a little bit closer to feeling fine
Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 21:27, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Lovely, my dear sir. Hi878 isn't home.   (Can I take a message?) 19:04, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Poetic. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 06:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:11, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support, inspirational. -- Σ <sub style="font-size: 80%;cursor: crosshair;">☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  00:01, 27 May 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅ - original for June 20, 2011. Five supports (inc me), no-one against, brilliant quote! Smaug123 (talk) 15:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.=== Another Douglas Adams quote. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 15:59, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Perfect!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:28, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support for obvious reasons -- Σ <sub style="font-size: 80%;cursor: crosshair;">☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  05:35, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:34, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Likes Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 17:32, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 17:15, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

→ What is the murder of them that kill the body, to the murder of them that kill the soul?
Don't kill my soul. -- Σ <sub style="font-size: 80%;cursor: crosshair;">☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  02:43, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Good job.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 16:19, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Like it. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 06:30, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:42, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Don't kill my soul either. Good, Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 20:25, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 08:41, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Eh-oh!
Don't tell anyone i thought of this. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 00:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose Sounds childish and unintresting. -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions )   → Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. 13:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


 * GAH!!! - ...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:29, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 04:42, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll withdraw, maybe i did go a little overboard. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 19:18, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't worry about that. I think here it's good to focus on quantity of nominations, not just quality. If we just focus on quality, then we'll never get anything done. Even if we fire off a blank, it might inspire someone else to fix it or make a similar one. Keep 'em coming! <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 03:00, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

- withdrawn\WP:SNOW. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 08:41, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ Then close your eyes and tap your heels together three times. And think to yourself, "There's no place like home"=== The Wizard of Oz (1939) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:26, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Support First link is epic (and fits well) but I can't get the others <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:31, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The first link is fine. However: "Close you eyes and use the manual of style" seems rather strange. The third link should only be over the third word in it, but I don't think it is necessary at all. The last link is weird; I almost never see the home page at all, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:53, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 00:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose doesn't get it. Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 17:33, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 08:41, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Workers of the world, unite!
-- Σ <sub style="font-size: 80%;cursor: crosshair;">☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  02:59, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Sounds good.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 16:20, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support  Forty two  09:51, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Let us overthrow our copyright bonds and take hold of the means of wiki production. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 06:30, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ &#147;A spectre is haunting Internet—the spectre of Wikimedia Commons!&#148; (^____^) ~ –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:42, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per WP:SNOW. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 16:59, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

→ There never was a good war or a bad peace.
Benjamin Franklin (1706–1790) ~ –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:39, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Looks good to me. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 14:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Even though it isn't too terribly exciting.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:53, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 16:59, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ Non scholae, sed vitae discimus ("We do not learn for the school, but for life") === My own interpretation of a Latin phrase that here means: an editor should not write articles to please Wikipedia or editors, but readers. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:43, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I like the idea, but not speaking Latin, the MOS link confuses me somewhat.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment ~ [Non] discimus = [We do not] learn; Non scholae, sed vitae = not for scholl, but for life. And, Isn't MoS the place/guide/resource where we can learn the basic principles of writing and formatting Wikipedia's articles? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:06, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

- not enough discussion. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 21:37, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak oppose. I'm almost in favour, but I'm also not sure about the MoS link. From my limited powers of deduction in Latin, discimus must mean "learn", and I think there is a lot more to learning about Wikipedia than the MoS. Also, I admit to being a little biased against Latin mottoes... <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 14:17, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 16:59, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Yours is here
Taken from the Dell slogan. Its catchy and sums up what Wikipedia is about Tyw7   (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions )    14:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC) Weak Oppose ~ it needs (at least) the first link to point to the project namespace. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm not liking the idea of using slogans. Even if that wasn't the case, we need project-space links, not article-space links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:40, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Suggestions? -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions )    11:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to even try; as I said, I do not like the idea of using slogans. I am pretty sure that we are "Motto of the Day", not "Advertisement of the Day".  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 14:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support, Pictogram voting support.svg Works for me --43?9enter ★☭ 02:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:39, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I don't like the idea of advertising for Dell, no matter how good the result may look. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 14:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 16:59, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Tonight's the night I shall be talking about of flu the subject of word association football.
From Monty Python's Word Association sketch. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 10:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose Strong Oppose: Huh? I don't understand the quote. -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions )   Wikipedia wants YOU! 15:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * That's understandable - it's one of those ones that only makes sense if you know it. Listening to the sketch may help. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 16:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes but a quote must be able to stand by itself without any "context" clues. Therefore, I'm switching to strong oppose-- Tyw7   (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions )   → Take up our quarrel with the foe: / To you from failing hands we throw / The torch; be yours to hold it high. 16:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Per Tyw7, you need to be able to understand a motto without help. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Unfortunately, many people won't get it, because not everyone knows about Monty Python. For that reason alone, we shouldn't use it; I would support it otherwise.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 16:59, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
Isaac Asimov –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:07, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Do we want to call people involved in edit wars incompetent?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:23, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment ~ This do not apply to all the people involved in edit wars, but only to those who do not follow Wikipedia's editing policy, and that essay summarises the arguments to avoid in edit wars. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:30, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Edit wars should be avoided, so one who avoids an edit war is competent (I think). --43?9enter ☭msg★contribs 22:54, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

- White days. Cruelties. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 01:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support It's a rarely used link but I don't like the negative sentiment <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The quote sounds a bit depressing to me. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 10:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 16:59, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Every little helps!
Taken from Tesco's slogan. Its snappy and memorable! -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions )   → I took the one less traveled by, / And that has made all the difference. 20:11, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I'm not particularly fond of advertising for a company... And either way, I don't like the links. They seems akward.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * How about Bake and Shake that was adopted a few months back. If you don't like the links, create your own version -- Tyw7   (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions )   Wikipedia wants YOU! 16:00, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 10:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878.  Rcsprinter  Gimme a message  16:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I quite like the links and the message, a little bit of anything will help. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose Tesco makes me think of Tasc0... (shudder), and per Hi. -- Σ <sub style="font-size: 80%;cursor: crosshair;">☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  07:08, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * What is Tas0? -- Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions )   "Only YOU can prevent forest fire!"--Smoky Bear 11:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * User:Tasc0 was a thing, who, in my opinion, needs this on his or her userpage. -- Σ <sub style="font-size: 80%;cursor: crosshair;">☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  02:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

per WP:SNOW. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years

→ The difficult I can do today. The impossible will take a little longer.
Billie Holiday (7 April 1915, Harlem, New York City – 17 July 1959) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:37, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems fine.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 17:41, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Now that I think about it, the links don't quite link very well...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment- I don't understand the second link. --  Forty two  19:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support I like the first link, but not the second. Long-term abuse isn't really related to CP/OpenTask. Maybe something more related to the first link like WP:TASK? <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose I have no idea what abuse has to do with the impossible. Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 00:13, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: the 2nd link it is more related to "a little longer". Any idea? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:32, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The difficult I can do today. The impossible will take a little longer.
Edit 1 with Articles requested for more than a year for the 2nd link. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:32, 10 May 2011 (UTC) in favour of edit 3. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Third Preference - All of these are good, but the other two are slightly better.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The difficult I can do today. The impossible will take a little longer.
Edit 2 with List of controversial issues for the 2nd link. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:32, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Second Preference - The other is just a tad better.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:24, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The difficult I can do today. The impossible will take a little longer.
Edit 3 with Category:Wikipedia backlog (shortcut: WP:BACKLOG) for the 2nd link. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:32, 10 May 2011 (UTC) ✅ per weak consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Definitely the best of them.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:24, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support - I wouldn't call a backlog an impossible task. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The difficult I can do today. The impossible will take a little longer.
Edit 4 with WP:DRPR as the second link. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 14:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC) in favour of edit 3. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I wouldn't say those are impossible... Just unlikely.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:24, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Everyday may not be good, but there's something good in every day.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 00:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't know... The last one seems sort of strange.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:47, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ It seems okay to me. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:14, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. I was trying to portray that every article has potential. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support I like the links -- Σ <sub style="font-size: 80%;cursor: crosshair;">☭ <sup style="margin-left:-2ex;cursor:crosshair;">★  07:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Everyday may not be good, but there's something good in every day.

 * Edit 2, with new links. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 16:35, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Support ~ I like the set of links you (Mr. Stradivarius) used here. I support both versions, but this is my "favourite". –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:49, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I think it seems kind of akward... I do like MILL, however. I think I have an idea.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Second preference <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Everyday may not be good, but there's something good in every day.
Edit 3  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Two links instead of three is a good idea. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 14:44, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Everyday may not be good, but there's something good in every day.
Edit 4 with today's articles for deletion and creation. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Conditional Support - I like using MILL, just because it is rather uncommon here, but this is good as well. I support if mine fails.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:23, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 3. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Shows that we build, when we should but entomb us.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 00:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The last half seems... Odd.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:40, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ imho it's good enough for being approved. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:18, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose I'm sorry I don't get it :\ Protrays growth in a negative light to me. <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 11:23, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. A better link would be one of the recent Wikimedia updates (by Sue Gardner?) showing that most edits are by new IPs and that new contributors are declining, yet we continue to build the encyclopedia. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:37, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The quote is too downbeat to be a motto, in my opinion. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 16:46, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Lord of thy presence, and no land beside.
William Shakespeare (1564–1616), The Life and Death of King John, Act I, Scene I (1623) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:06, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I do not understand the first link. It seems like the opposite of what you would want, which could also mean that my mind isn't in a Shakespeare-ready mode. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:38, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

- not enough discussion. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I don't really get it, and I'm not sure other editors will either. (Probably because I've never seen this play...) <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 16:49, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's Queen Elinor (mother to King John) who talks with Philip Faulconbridge (the Bastard), half-brother of Robert Faulconbridge, and illegitimate (or bastard) son to King Richard I–Cœur de Lion–Richard the Lionheart. Shake "uses" this character, the "Bastard", to investigate into the nature of personal legitimacy and individual identity. Act I, Scene 1. Northampton: A Room of State in the Palace. (line 145 on the First Folio of 1623) on WikiSource. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ We both obey, And here give up ourselves, in the full bent, To lay our service freely at your feet, To be commanded.=== William Shakespeare (1564–1616), Hamlet, Act II, Scene II, Guildenstern (1623). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:09, 29 March 2011 (UTC) 1 & 7. "We both obey" and "To be commanded". We all know that there are some policies and guidelines on Wikipedia. There is also the "ignore all rules"–rule, but in this last case, we're obeying this rule. So in any case we obey. 4 (5) & 6. "in the full bent" [4] (in the best way possible/at the best) made me think of wikipedians/editors, "our service" [5] to their/our edits, and "freely at your feet" [6] to free content. "To grow the commons of free knowledge and free culture, all users contributing to Wikimedia projects are required to grant broad permissions to the general public to re-distribute and re-use their contributions freely, as long as the use is attributed and the same freedom to re-use and re-distribute applies to any derivative works...." Isn't free? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:23, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I do not like links 1, 4, 6, or 7. For 1 and 7, we are not being commanded. I do not underdstand 4 or 6.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:35, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply2Hi878: You know I do not like to explain my nominations here because no one can explain a motto and its set of links when it is published. If a motto (and its set of links) is not clear, then it is not a valid motto (for MOTD, of course). In any case:

- not enough discussion. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose. I tried to think of better links, but none were forthcoming... <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 17:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ O life! thou art a galling load, Along a rough, a weary road, To wretches such as I!=== Robert Burns (1759–1796), Despondency: "An Ode" (1786) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:48, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Am I interpreting this correctly? Article Development is a hard thing for speediable pages to bear?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:34, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Reply: It's the life=WP:DEV of an article that meets the criteria for speedy deletion. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:29, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

- not enough discussion. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Article development is impossible for a page that undeniably falls under CSD criteria. --43?9enter ★☭ 00:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

=== → 'Tis pleasant, sure, to see one's name in print; A book's a book, although there's nothing in 't. === Lord George Gordon Noel Byron (1788–1824), English Bards and Scotch Reviewers. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - very good. PrincessofLlyr  royal court 12:29, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - really confusing. First, awards, then sigs, then books, then what an article is, then stubs. I should focus on one thing.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:02, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Not really though. Awards are pleasant, the sig is your name, Books are printed, an article's an article even if it's just a stub. The general idea being that it's nice to be recognized, even in a tiny way. Does that make more sense? PrincessofLlyr  royal court 14:24, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I know it's supposed to mean this. However, the way the ideas are connected is confusing.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:32, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Why not? A book, a Wikipedia's book is a collection of articles, and the usernames of the contributors appear at the end of the book. I used Help:Books (for "in print") and WP:WIAA (for "A book's a book") so they are not repeating twice. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:50, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I really like the quote, but the links... I think that the two lines should be connected; they seem to be totally independent of one another with their links. In addition, Idon't really like the first or third links; AWARDS is somewhat confusing, and Help:Books doesn't quite work; do signatures appear in books?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:23, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Even dinosaurs fell, but information cannot be destroyed.
~ A H  1 (TCU) 12:28, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - is there supposed to be an arrow link?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - No project-space links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:10, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose: No arrow.  Forty two  19:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Even dinosaurs fell, but information cannot be destroyed.
Edit 1 ~ What about this? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:09, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Same as above.  Forty two  19:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - We don't need an arrow if it was original, and I think I'll AGF on that. These links are great.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

- no complete consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: What about oversight? But if you are unaware of oversight I support this. --43?9enter ★☭ 00:00, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose I can see it working, but can't find it quoted anywhere. Also, with all our technology in the world, if a repeat of history were to occur -would our information survive? <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Probably yes! Or probably no! (^____^) There is something about that, some advanced projects, in Norway and Iceland, the Voyager Golden Records, and a project by NASA to store data on the Moon (probably, in the dark side of...). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:28, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

per consensus. Simply south...... unintentionally misspelling fr 5 years 20:41, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

→ We've got a serial killer on our hands. Love those, there's always something to look forward to.
Does this work at all?  Forty two  09:10, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Support ~ Yes, I think it works. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:07, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Yep but does it promote WP:BITE? Hi, by the way, sorry I've not been around! <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:28, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't like the second link. It seems sort of... Wrong. Bad message to send.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree with you, this does not convey such a good message, but I can not see other ways to respond to accounts that are created and used only to vandalize Wikipedia. So, I think that the second link simply fits perfectly, or we need to relink the whole thing (or not using it at all, of course.) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:23, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support, I was made for supporting this. And to contribute to other articles. --43?9enter ★☭ 02:58, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per weak consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 00:21, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

→ If you build it, he will come.
Field of Dreams (1989) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:00, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Awards shouldn't be the point of article writing.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:30, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ If you build it, he will come.
Edit 1 ~ what about this? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:50, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose That implies that you are guaranteed FA. I tried to find a link for 'general public' rather than WP:EDIANS but couldn't find one :( <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 11:04, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I think it has a good message; work hard on your article, and you can achieve FA someday.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:40, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I now prefer Edit 2.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per Hi, but I would think WP:GA fits more. --43?9enter ☭msg★contribs 22:55, 30 April 2011 (UTC) ❌ in favor of edit 2 --43?9enter ★☭ 02:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Second preference if my edit doesn't get consensus. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ If you build it, he will come.
Edit 2. WP:READER is a bit short, but I like the message it gives. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. The main-space article People could also do the same job. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:17, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - By far the best of the three. Nice job!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support THAT'S what I was looking for! <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

all - no complete consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 21:37, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support_cluster.svgInfinite support This is the one! --43?9enter ★☭ 02:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support (edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:38, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ (Edit 2) for Motto of the day/June 12, 2011 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ If there's a book you really want to read but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it .===  Forty two  18:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)�*Oppose - I don't really like it, but I have another idea. Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 01:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - links aren't great, version below is better. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ If there's a book you really want to read but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it.
Edit 1  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Works for me, but you must write it? <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Looks good. You never know, it might just persuade someone to start an article they wouldn't have otherwise. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 10:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * --43?9enter ★☭ 19:32, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:42, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 11, 2011 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Put your precious pen to paper and tell me what you’re for!
From Taylor Mali's poem Silver-Lined Heart. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 18:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Good link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support - OK but a bit bland. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 10, 2011 (per consensus; 5 [4.5] in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:05, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Wibbley wobbley, timey wimey!
How's this? Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 09:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. I like the link, but I don't know the quote. (Time to say goodbye to my geek credentials?) Staying neutral for now. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 11:20, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Used by the Doctor to explain time paradoxes. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 21:22, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Wonderful!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I agree with WP:GIBBERISH, I often have to go and look up more obscure essays and guidelines that are abbreviated in the project namespace. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:01, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 9, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support, 0 opposed and 1 neutral) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:03, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ We are the knights who say 'Ni!'
From the Knights who say Ni. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:33, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - "We are the knights who bully!" seems to be a rather bad message. I have an idea.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:05, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per Hi878. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ We are the knights who say 'Ni!'
Edit 1  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:05, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. You're right, that's much better. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support (this version) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 8, 2011 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Go ahead, make my day.
From the Clint Eastwood line. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Lovely.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:17, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I take that back. April 1 is the day you are looking for.   Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:19, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I added the arrow.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. Ah, sorry... I searched for it, but I missed it because I wasn't specific enough. Well caught! <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:38, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 3) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:58, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Are you feeling lucky, punk?
Edit 2 --  Forty two  20:21, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Like the quote, but linking to a template feels a bit lacklustre. I've thought of a good link... <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 21:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Isn't "You've got to ask yourself one question: &#147;Do I feel lucky?&#148; Well, do ya, punk?" –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:28, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Per Stradivarius.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 3) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:58, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Are you feeling lucky, punk?
Edit 3 <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 21:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Support: Yes, this is definitely better. --  Forty two  03:41, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ Yes[h] ROFLAMO –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:12, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per obvious reasons. --43?9enter ★☭ 00:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment You could've used WP:DICKERY, then I wouldn't have had to click the link. --43?9enter ★☭ 02:54, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 7, 2011 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:58, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Everybody was kung-fu fighting
From the song Kung Fu Fighting. The little man on the RCP userbox icon looks a little bit like he's kung-fu fighting, no? <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 18:31, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I added the arrow.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:12, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 6, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Well, this is another fine mess you've gotten me into...
A line often attributed to Oliver Hardy, although it appears he may have never said it verbatim in any of the Laurel and Hardy films. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 18:09, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The link seems sort of odd... I like the quote, though. I added the arrow.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:22, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:53, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Well, this is another fine mess you've gotten me into...
Edit 1, with a new link to WP:CLEAN. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:59, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Much better.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:06, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support --  Forty two  18:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 5, 2011 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:53, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ You take the red pill—you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.
This is from The Matrix. Morpheus says these words to Neo when he offers him the choice of staying in the Matrix (the blue pill) or knowing the truth (the red pill). I'm particularly fond of the WP:VNT link for red pill. I had considered using WP:RFA for how deep the rabbit hole goes, but WP:ST seemed more suitable. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 17:32, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I like the quote, and I think that the first two links are good, but the last link seems to be rather unrelated to the other two. I added the arrow.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 5) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:50, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ You take the red pill—you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.
Edit 1 - changed the last link to WP:CAT. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:04, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - There still isn't much of a connection between the last link and the other two.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:07, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. Is it acceptable to link to Meta? Meta:Wikipedia article depth would seem like a good candidate. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:22, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You can do that, but I don't like that page either. :) However, keep in mind that more opinions than mine count.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 5) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:50, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ You take the red pill—you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.
Edit 2. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I still don't like the last one.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Is the red one Cinnamon or cherry1? --43?9enter ☭msg★contribs 05:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Egads, there's no pleasing this one! Please, make a suggestion for a link - I'm out of ideas. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 11:14, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 5) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:50, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

====→ You take the red pill—you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.==== Edit 3 for your consideration :)--  Forty two  12:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Sorry, now I'm the hard-to-please one! I like the first link, but not so much the other two. Why featured article review? I don't get it... Also, the dash should probably be done according to MOS:DASH to avoid getting style zealots grumpy. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:38, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I fixed the MOS:DASH issue without nominating a new edit. As for the choice of links, what I am trying to suggest is that if you start a requested article and develop it according to the policies, it might make it through WP:FAR. I intentionally avoided using the oft-used WP:DEVELOP or WP:FA links, but looks like the motto might make more sense when they are used. --  Forty two  20:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'd support WP:DEVELOP and WP:FA, though I know what you mean about them being used a lot. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 22:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose - I love the first two links. HOWEVER! I have seen this too many times, so excuse my rudeness. FAR is where FAs are demoted, you moron! FA would be perfect, and I would most certainly support if you changed the third. I love the second, though; don't you dare change it!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm going to stop being lazy and nominate it myself. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:49, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I assure you that you weren't being rude enough... that merits a trout! What was I thinking? --  Forty two  17:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 5) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:50, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

====→ You take the red pill—you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.==== Edit 4 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Oppose. Probably the best version so far. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 11:31, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I may have been too hasty with the support - the second link could indeed be better. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 10:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose - ...What? I don't understand what you mean by the last two links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 5) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:50, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ You take the red pill—you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.
Edit 5  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:49, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Good work! I am now officially persuaded about the second link. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 10:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:26, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support That was what I was trying to nominate. --  Forty two  17:14, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support (edit 5) ~ well done! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 4, 2011 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:50, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Use the Force, Luke
Star Wars (version 1 of 3; see below for v2&3) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 15:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't really like using MOS. It seems too boring.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:49, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment ~ Who is better a "boring" thing or a red link??? Any —"not boring"— suggestions??? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 14:41, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Just because you are bored of something doesn't mean you shouldn't use it (ESPECIALLY if it happens to be the MOS!). Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 23:56, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I prefer number 2. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 16:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of v2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ May the Force Be With You
v2 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 15:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Same as for version 1.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:49, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Same as v1. Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 23:56, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. This seems like the best version of the quote. And the MoS deserves to be highlighted once in a while! <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 16:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support per above --43?9enter ★☭ 00:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * First preference –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 3, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The Force Will Be With You Always
v3 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 15:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Same as for version 1.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 03:49, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Same as v1. Wikicopter what i do s + c cup&#124;former 23:56, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I prefer version 2. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 16:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose (v3) per Stradivarius. --43?9enter ★☭ 00:15, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of v2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ Things at the worst will cease, or else climb upward To what they were before.=== William Shakespeare (1564–1616), Macbeth, Act IV, Scene II (1623) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:32, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I really like it, but I think it needs a tiny bit of tweaking. This hypothetical article that you are talking about is apparently worthy of deletion. The way that you have set the links, it loks like the options are nominate it for deletion or work on it until it is undeleted. Obviously, an article can't really have both of those options open at once. However, I love the quote; I really would like to be able to use it.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:31, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Re2Hi878: Well, I see two different types-typologies-kinds of "hypothetical" articles here... both have been deleted but the second type was then "resuscitated"/undeleted. Isn't "things=articles" in plural form? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:41, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

- not enough discussion. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I like edit 2 better. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 17:07, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

====→ Things at the worst will cease, or else climb upward To what they were before.==== Edit 1, suggestion. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:27, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. More logical than the original. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 17:07, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ better than the original. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Much better.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 2, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:43, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ You talkin' to me?
Taxi Driver (1976) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:09, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Simple but effective <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:32, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - :) Seems kind of silly, but it's fine.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. To-the-point. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 1, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ After my experience, I have come to hate war. War settles nothing.
Dwight D. Eisenhower –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Good links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:50, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * This works too. sonia ♫  00:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Looks good. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support --  Forty two  05:24, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 31, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:38, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

→ After my experience, I have come to hate war. War settles nothing.
v2 My fad with only linking single words :\ <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:35, 28 April 2011 (UTC) (in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:38, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I think that the last bit is better with the whole sentence linked.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:50, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Hi878. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:48, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind.
John F. Kennedy –p joe f (talk • contribs) 16:38, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak support Are the repeated links required? <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:38, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose Find new links and maybe I'll change my mind. But right now, no. It's Malpass 93! (drop me a ___) 16:55, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - In most cases, repeating a link doesn't work; this would be one of those.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:47, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

in favour of edit 1 Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 10:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind.
Edit 1 - What do you think? Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 22:47, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Good humorous message. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:55, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support -  Forty two  18:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ edit 1 per consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 10:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Can I borrow your underpants for ten minutes?
Sixteen Candles (1984) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - how bizarre :) Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 15:26, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I actually don't get the connection... Am I just being absent-minded?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:32, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment ~ No,you're not "absent-minded" (^___^) it's just that the "ten minutes" thing made ​​me think of that template and the underpants should represent an article. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I just don't really like it, then...  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:41, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Good for laughs and edification. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 21:37, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Education is the miracle, I’m just the worker.
From Taylor Mali's poem Miracle Workers. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 17:59, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Support ~ Well done, the set of links seems "perfect" to me. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:00, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Good links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - per Pjoef, nice links. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 22:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The pioneers of a warless world are the youth that refuse military service.
Albert Einstein –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:20, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Very good links.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:55, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support Spot on <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Very nice. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 11:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - great message. WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 22:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

→ I gave her my heart, and she gave me a pen.
Say Anything... (1989) (WP:FIRST should be an alternative for the last link) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:41, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Wonderful!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Nice. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 10:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - but is the second link to Wikipedia really needed? WVRMad • Talk • Guestbook  18:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 22:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Proofreading your peppers is a matter of the the utmost impotence.
From Taylor Mali's poem The the impotence of proofreading. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 18:07, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. I auspiciously re-comment that you reed this poem. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 18:42, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support (and thanks for the recommendation and the link.) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:58, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - love it! PrincessofLlyr  royal court 18:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Lovely.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I just read the poem... Wow. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the video is even better... <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 10:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support I thunk it's prefect <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:21, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 17:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.=== Martin Luther King, Jr. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:16, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems fine.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:26, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Great idea. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:59, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 01:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

====→ Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.==== Edit 1 <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 11:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I prefer linking each line, instead of the individual words. It seems more fitting with this one.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:39, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

in favour of original. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 01:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Play it again, Sam.
Originally a misquote from Casablanca (film). <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:52, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems fine.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:06, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Resourceful link. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 00:53, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support  Forty two  20:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 21, 2011 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!
The catchphrase of Marvin the Martian. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:12, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I prefer something slightly different.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:15, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - I added the arrow.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!
Edit 1  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:15, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. I like it! <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 19:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Very funny. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 00:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ Now, it is [a] perfect [boooOOOOM]! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 20, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Time, department skies
From that motto a few weeks ago that was translated into\from Korean through Babelfish. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 18:59, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment - Could you explain this one?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 04:18, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well it is a funny unintentionally nonsensical translation, from here Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 16:26, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Could any sense be made also from "White days. Cruelties."? Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 15:31, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Although we might get some funny looks.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:02, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * support We're allowed an in-joke once in a while, no? :) sonia ♫  00:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I miss out on a lot when I'm not here, evidently. :)  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 19:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Vision, conclusion ocean. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:10, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Where was that translated from? The "White days. Cruelties." was translated through Korean from Gong Zizhen's poem. Again through Babelfish. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 09:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 19, 2011 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ Scientia est lux lucis ("Knowledge is enlightenment") === Leonardo da Vinci –p joe f (talk • contribs) 15:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Could you add the english translation please? Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 18:16, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * done! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:06, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't like the second link.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:34, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Same - second link doesn't seem very as good as it could be. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 16:30, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

====→ Scientia est lux lucis ("Knowledge is enlightenment") ==== I think this is more fitting. Edit 1. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 17:59, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - This seems more fitting.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:34, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Support. Enlightening to readers. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:11, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Looks good. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 16:30, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support (edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 18, 2011 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

=== → Pax melior est﻿ quam iustissimum bellum. ("Peace is better than the most just war.") === Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 BC–43 BC) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:30, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - I don't like implying any edit war is just.  MMS  2013  12:08, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose - I see another implication here: 'edit wars' where, for example, one side is blatantly violating policy, are as bad as their more evil counterparts.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:59, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - We shouldn't be saying that any edit war is justified.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 01:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Pjoef has convinced me.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:31, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I have decided that I prefer Edit 2.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:26, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'd like that the so-called "powerful of the Earth" thought about it exactly in the same way of you, when they do (or, better, before they do) their BEEPIN' wars. I'm talking about real wars with countless inocent civilian victims, and as never before in the past. PAX MELIOR EST QUAM IUSTISSIMUM BELLUM!!! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:06, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment #2 ~ For those who are involved in an edit war, the war itself as well as their positions on the subject, appear to be right. Also, you can read this as: "if indeed there is (if there could never be) a just/good/fair/right (edit) war, then peace is still (would be) much better than that (edit) war". –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:20, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You have convinced me, my dear sir.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:31, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. As per others, not sure about a "just" edit war. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 17:11, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

====→ Pax melior est﻿ quam iustissimum bellum. ("Peace is better than the most just war.")==== Is this any better? edit 1. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 18:02, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak Support ~ Unfortunately, WP:POV points to the same page of WP:NPOV. I still prefer the original version. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:20, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - POV seems sort of odd.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:31, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose. NPOV doesn't sound like war to me. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 17:11, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

====→ Pax melior est﻿ quam iustissimum bellum. ("Peace is better than the most just war.")==== You're right. I feel this is a little bit more to what i was trying to say. edit 2 Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 20:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - 'Tis good.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:25, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Good point. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:28, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. This one is good. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 17:11, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 17, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

→ One way to get the most out of life is to look upon it as an adventure.
v1 <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 14:40, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The links seem sort of odd... I have an idea. By the way, you should put a space between the arrow link and the start of the motto, in future nominations.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:00, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 3) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

→ One way to get the most out of life is to look upon it as an adventure.
v2 <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 14:40, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Links are incomprehensible.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 23:00, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 3) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

→ One way to get the most out of life is to look upon it as an adventure.
Edit 3 - How's this? Hi 8 7 8  (Come shout at me!) 23:00, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I like it. sonia ♫  00:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * support me too :) <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 02:31, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support ~ it's perfect! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 16, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science.
<span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 11:15, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Support moving my support to edit 1 below... –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:31, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't like the placement of the second link. Would over "all true art and science" work?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:55, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd link "all true art and science" to special:allpages and remove the source link, but support either way. sonia ♫  00:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

→ The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science.
Edit 1 As per sonia I actually prefer this <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 02:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - 'Tis much better.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:25, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Interesting version. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:51, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 15, 2011 (per consensus; 5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Sawyer, you're going out a youngster, but you've got to come back a star!
42nd Street (1933) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 16:53, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Support Good but does this not portray that all new articles must be FA? <span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;martyx&#0149; tk ct gy 10:36, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * yes, but that's the truth. Not all articles are (and probably will never be) FA. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:07, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I think it seems fine.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 22:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Getting articles to FA status is (largely) the goal here, after all. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 14, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:33, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Soylent Green is people!
Soylent Green (1973) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:11, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - :) Is that what happens when users retire, then?  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:34, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * o_O I like it! :P sonia ♫  00:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Catchy. Green. Good. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:08, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 13, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:31, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

===→ If you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, do you know what's gonna happen to you? ... You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola Company.=== Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) ~ Isn't funny? (^____^) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:56, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - I love it!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:30, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Strange indeed. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:58, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. Maybe my favourite so far. <span style="font-family:Palatino, Georgia, serif;"> — Mr. Stradivarius  ♫ 20:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 12, 2011 (per consensus; 4 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:27, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

→ Life is mostly froth and bubble Two things stand like stone— Kindness in another's trouble. Courage in your own.
One of my favourite little bits of poetry. sonia ♫ 01:10, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Lovely. It's nice to see you here again!  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 02:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Support!!! ~ I do not like it... because i really LOVE it! The set of links is also perfect. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:39, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support. The last two are rarely-used links. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 13:05, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

→ An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind.
Mahatma Gandhi –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:01, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems fine.  Hi 8 7 8   (Come shout at me!) 20:21, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep. sonia ♫  00:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Support  Forty two  21:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

✅ per consensus. Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 09:10, 1 May 2011 (UTC)