Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 44

Special nominations
===→ L'important dans la vie ce n'est point le triomphe, mais le combat, l'essentiel ce n'est pas d'avoir vaincu mais de s'être bien battu. "The important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle, the essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well." === (for the closing ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics, 12 August 2012). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support Shri Ram Talk tome 10:00, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - could be used for the closing day of the Olympics? benzband  ( talk ) 13:02, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 01:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 12, 2012 (4 in support, 0 against). benzband ( talk ) 12:51, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

→ When Johnny comes marching home again…
For September 3 2012 (1651: the Battle of Worcester marks the end of the English Civil War). benzband ( talk ) 15:18, 16 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 15:38, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 01:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 3, 2012 (4 in support, 0 against). benzband ( talk ) 12:51, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

===→ Tho' much is taken, much abides; and though We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.=== I need to find links for this but this is my nomination for July 27th 2012 - the start of the London Olympics. Most of these words will be used in an area of the Olympic Park called Ulysses Square (not the one in Jacksonville, US). Simply south...... going on editing sprees for just 6 years (as of 28/03/2006) 16:21, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

"→ Tho' much is taken, much abides; and though We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
 * Great Idea, thank you so very much, Simply south. It now needs links. What about using "The Isles of Wonder"? It's more simple and it could be linked to Wikipedia, but, in this very special case, I wish we could make an exception and link it to 2012 Summer Olympics directly (in any case, the arrow link will surely link to it). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:16, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Brain[storm]ing:
 * That second line is tricky though :) benzband  ( talk ) 18:31, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * What about a link to WP:Missing Wikipedians in the second line? AndieM    (Am I behaving?'')  09:48, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * done in Edit 0C. benzband  ( talk ) 12:13, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 0C) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

====→ Tho' much is taken, much abides; and though We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.==== Edit 0A (for the 27th of July 2012 ~ Opening ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics) per benzband. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 12:13, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Shifted support to edit 0C, which thanks to a lot of teamwork seems the best to me. benzband  ( talk ) 18:16, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 0C) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

====→ Tho' much is taken, much abides; and though We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.==== Edit 0B (for the 27th of July 2012 ~ Opening ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics) with some small changes. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support benzband  ( talk ) 16:51, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Shifted support to edit 0C, which thanks to a lot of teamwork seems the best to me. benzband  ( talk ) 18:16, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 0C) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

====→ Tho' much is taken, much abides; and though We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.==== Edit 0C, with WP:Missing Wikipedians per AndieM. benzband ( talk ) 12:13, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. This looks like the best version. — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 12:46, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 15:45, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support-- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 16:51, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Edit 0C Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 01:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 27, 2012 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

→ The Isles of Wonder
Edit 1 (for the 27th of July 2012 ~ Opening ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose No thank you. :) Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 01:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 0C) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

→ Liberty, equality, fraternity, or death.
For July 14, 2012-or-2013 (Bastille Day) ~ Charles Dickens in A Tale of Two Cities (1859). benzband ( talk ) 16:40, 7 June 2012 (UTC) Storming of the Bastille The citizens of Paris had the heads of the French Guards on 14 July 1789. Building of this fortification commenced in 1369 during the reign of Charles V. Hugues Aubriot, a native of Dijon and Provost of Paris, laid the first stone. Construction was completed in 1382. It was built as one of the structures to imprison people under the pretext of heresy. It was liberated by the Parisians during the troubles that agitated the capital and carried on through the country. This is how the traitors were punished.

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:35, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

→ Liberty, equality, fraternity, or death; — the last, much the easiest to bestow, O Guillotine!
Edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 16:40, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Shri Ram Talk tome 09:57, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support-- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 11:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 01:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 14, 2012 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:35, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

→ You can chain me, you can torture me, you can even destroy this body, but you will never imprison my mind.
For the International Day in Support of Victims of Torture, 26th June 2012. Maybe a better link can be found… benzband  ( talk ) 15:09, 27 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:38, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support-- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 11:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 15:39, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 01:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 26, 2012 (per WP:SNOW) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 18:31, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

→ The art of quoting is the art of those who cannot think for themselves.
François-Marie Arouet de Voltaire (1694-1778). A bit of self-promotion can't hurt. benzband ( talk ) 13:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - YES! I love self deprecating humor.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 30, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 11:29, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

→ The art of quoting is the art of those who cannot think for themselves.
Edit 1, with copyright violations. benzband ( talk ) 13:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

And think they grow immortal as they quote. Love of Fame, The Universal Passion, Satire I (1725–1728) Edward Young (1681–1765)"["speaking King's English in quotation...in the generation...go straight to..., boys!"]. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:08, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support (both versions) "Some, for renown, on scraps of learning dote,

(in favor of the original). benzband ( talk ) 11:29, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

→ It's not the votes that count. It's who counts the votes.
Stalin. — Hue Sat  Lum  00:33, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favor of Edit 1). benzband ( talk ) 11:29, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

→ It's not the votes that count. It's who counts the votes.
Edit 1. Alternative propositions for the second link: WP:CLOSE, WP:POLL, WP:FALSECON. benzband ( talk ) 10:16, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support — Hue Sat  Lum  13:33, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support (both versions) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:02, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 29, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 11:29, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

→ I never apologise. I'm sorry but that's just the way I am.
Difficultly north (talk) 13:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - haha. benzband  ( talk ) 14:00, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support ~ it's funny lol. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 28, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

→ There is a time for many words, and there is also a time for sleep.
Homer. benzband ( talk ) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

→ There is a time for many words, and there is also a time for sleep.
Edit 1 ~ with WP:BREAK. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:12, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support. benzband  ( talk ) 14:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - Fun motto, good linking. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:54, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 27, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

===→ When frustrations build clicking on the star Brings one closer to WikiNirvana=== User quote (diff). benzband ( talk ) 08:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:29, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

====→ When frustrations build clicking on the star Brings one closer to WikiNirvana==== Edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 08:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support — Hue Sat  Lum  13:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support ~ Why the CAPITAL B in "Brings"? Is it a song or a poem? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:03, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * dunno… i just copy-pasted it. benzband  ( talk ) 10:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 26, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:29, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?
French soldier in Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975). benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:26, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Difficultly north (talk) 11:35, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 25, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ One should examine oneself for a very long time before thinking of condemning others.
Jean-Baptiste Poquelin (1622-1673). benzband ( talk ) 13:59, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * How about using: Mediation Cabal, WP:POOR, or WP:ENJOY? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:17, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Also just thought of WP:BOOMERANG but that one has been used a lot recently :S benzband  ( talk ) 15:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

in favor of edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 14:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ One should examine oneself for a very long time before thinking of condemning others.
Edit 1 with WP:POT. benzband ( talk ) 11:32, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:32, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - Edit 1 is a significant improvement over the original link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:23, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 24, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Help you I can, yes.
Thought i'd add one after reading the guideline against Yoda quotes  benzband  ( talk ) 15:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:10, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - Doesn't seem obscure to me. And the link is appropriate.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:21, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 23, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.
Confucius (551-476 BC). benzband ( talk ) 09:05, 17 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:10, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - Straightforward and useful motto with an appropriate link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 22, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his reason is weak.
Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592). benzband ( talk ) 13:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:54, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong Support - Excellent quote, and excellent choice of link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:13, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 20, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Fun is good.
Theodor Seuss Geisel (1904-1991). benzband ( talk ) 13:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:54, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - And who can argue with Dr. Seuss? Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:12, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 21, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ I kid you not.
Captain Queeg in The Caine Mutiny. benzband ( talk ) 20:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - Short, simple, to the point. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:58, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 19, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Any fool can use a computer. Many do.
Ted Nelson (1937—). benzband ( talk ) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - Excellent choice of link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 18, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Any fool can use a computer. Many do.
Edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (both versions ~ lol)–p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:06, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Adequate, but the first version is better. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

in favor of edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 14:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ The Internet? Is that thing still around?
The other Homer. benzband ( talk ) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The greatest one ~ lol –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - I like this one. Funny, with a link to a nice, short article that makes a good point.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:56, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 17, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ The Internet? Is that thing still around?
Edit 0A (including the opposite point of view) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:37, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose - i don't get the connection between the project and the other link… benzband  ( talk ) 10:59, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

in favor of the original. benzband ( talk ) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ The Internet? Is that thing still around?
Edit 0B (modified first link). benzband ( talk ) 10:59, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

in favor of the original. benzband ( talk ) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ The Internet? Is that thing still around?
Edit 1: some WikiProject publicity… benzband  ( talk ) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * What's the difference? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops. (fixed) benzband  ( talk ) 14:04, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

in favor of the original. benzband ( talk ) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ In the world of illusion, we are lost and imprisoned, slaves to our appetites and our will to false power.
Marianne Williamson (1952—). Preceded by "In our natural state, we are glorious beings"; but i couldn't find a good link. benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - Good linking on this one. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:26, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 16, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Everyone has his faults which he continually repeats: neither fear nor shame can cure them.
Jean de La Fontaine (1621-1695). benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose - I don't like linking to a case study that calls out a particular Wikipedian, even if he is a vandal. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:24, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

in favor of edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Everyone has his faults which he continually repeats: neither fear nor shame can cure them.
Edit 1 - I think this might be a more appropriate link; it maintains the same basic point, without publically calling out a specific individual. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:24, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support (edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 15, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ L'amour est enfant de Bohême, il n'a jamais, jamais connu de loi
And since mottos given in foreign languages always have translations, but that would make the heading very long: (Love is a gypsy's child, it has never, never known the law) Like my singing? Ha-la-la-la-la-la-LA-LAAA!!! (talk) 22:48, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - i think putting the translation also would be a good idea, for those who don't understand french. benzband  ( talk ) 14:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support (perhaps the arrow should link to Habanera (aria)?) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 14, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) and changed attribution to Habanera (aria) and added translation. benzband ( talk ) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Printers have persecuted me without a cause.
The Printers' Bible, so called because David in Psalm 119:161 complains that "printers have persecuted me without a cause" instead of "princes". benzband ( talk ) 09:13, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

in favor of edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Printers have persecuted me without a cause.
Edit 1, with wp:typo. benzband ( talk ) 09:13, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * My last printout came out as Dkgytf yuhknlcxhd trdfujoyfzr instead of She sells sea shells on the sea shore. Explain that! Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 18:44, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Mary Anning? Your case seems to be unique though. benzband  ( talk ) 20:19, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support (both but this version, edit 1, seems to be working a little better than the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:30, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(both versions) (not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support per myself. The world needs to know! Difficultly north (talk) 13:37, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 13, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 14:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Aw, come on gravity… You used to be cool.
Homer Simpson. benzband ( talk ) 09:27, 5 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support, but I'm not sure I get the link. — Hue Sat  Lum  13:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * He is falling off a ski lift… benzband  ( talk ) 16:43, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it. (Oh, Homer! ) — Hue Sat  Lum  22:47, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:10, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 11, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:02, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

→ It's cool to go places where working people are happy.
Neil Young (1945—). benzband ( talk ) 09:27, 5 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support — Hue Sat  Lum  13:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:11, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 10, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:59, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

→ With my good eye on the beat
The Only Band That Matters in "Revolution Rock". Pun on the music beat/walking the beat. benzband ( talk ) 18:05, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support — Hue Sat  Lum  13:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:11, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 9, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:57, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Remember that all is opinion.
Meditations, Book II, p. 15. — Hue Sat  Lum  16:09, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - also how about directly attributing it to Meditations in the piped arrow link? prefer edit 1. benzband  ( talk ) 16:22, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit ) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:53, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Remember that all is opinion.
Edit 1 with a link to Meditations. — Hue Sat  Lum  14:39, 5 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 07:40, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:12, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ (edit 1) for Motto of the day/August 8, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:53, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

→ The internet is an elite organization.
Noam Chomsky. benzband ( talk ) 14:48, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (call me) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:24, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Exquisite-Modem.png Drriiiing! This is "most of the population of the world" speaking ;) benzband  ( talk ) 17:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Maybe make use of the whole sentence? Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 20:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, but what can we use for the last part? How about WikiProjects and contributors, or users/articles talk pages and Help:Contents/WP:HELPDESK? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 7, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:29, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Die, v.: To stop sinning suddenly.
Hubbard is back again. benzband ( talk ) 09:00, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support — Hue Sat  Lum  23:04, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 6, 2012 (3 in support, 0 against). benzband ( talk ) 13:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

===→ Wir leben immer in einer Welt, die wir uns selbst bilden. "We live in a world we ourselves create." === There are a couple other links (WP:EDIANS, WP:DEV) that would work as well. — Hue Sat  Lum  01:47, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 08:16, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 5, 2012 (3 in support, 0 against). benzband ( talk ) 13:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

If I want your opinion, I'll ask for it.
If anyone has a better link, you can change mine. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:48, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - i've removed the arrow link because WP:NPOV isn't exactly the author of this quote, and it kinda doesn't make sense in putting it twice (if that's okay with you :) benzband  ( talk ) 15:24, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't fully understand about attribution links yet, so thanks for fixing it. I don't believe the original source of the quote is known. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:09, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I looked it up and couldn't find a source either… benzband  ( talk ) 20:24, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * PS: About the attribution: if possible, you just put an arrow with a pipelink to the author or work (for instance if you're quoting Einstein, you could put  →  which produces →.
 * Thank you. It's always nice to be able to learn from someone who already knows the ropes, so to speak. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Question: What about "Questions"? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 4, 2012 (3 in support, 0 against). benzband ( talk ) 13:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

→ An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made.
— Hue Sat  Lum  20:43, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure i get the link… Support anyway though :-) benzband  ( talk ) 11:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:21, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 3, 2012 (3 in support, 0 against). benzband ( talk ) 13:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

→ War is hell.
William Tecumseh Sherman in a 1879 speech at the Michigan Military Academy. — Hue Sat  Lum  21:46, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - i'll take his word for it. benzband  ( talk ) 08:04, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It is mentioned on Sherman's page at Wikiquote. Also see — Hue  Sat  Lum  14:08, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey i was only joking: i meant i'll take W. T. Sherman's word for war being hell, and i won't bother going to war myself to find out if it really is. benzband  ( talk ) 17:32, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * — Hue Sat  Lum  21:02, 24 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:17, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 2, 2012 (3 in support, 0 against). benzband ( talk ) 13:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked.
Who to attribute this to? benzband ( talk ) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * to the angry German kid, of coursee ~ ROTFLMAO. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL  benzband  ( talk ) 13:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - I don't think there's a part of my computer that hasn't been kicked yet, so I guess it's all hard :) BarkingFish  21:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 1, 2012 (3 in support, 0 against). benzband ( talk ) 13:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

→ Beware of the false teachers — men who come to you in sheep's fleeces, but beneath that disguise they are ravenous wolves.
From the Gospel of Matthew as in the Weymouth New Testament. benzband ( talk ) 18:46, 22 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:16, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 17:35, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 31, 2012 (3 in support, 0 against). benzband ( talk ) 13:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

→ By his disobedience of God's law, Adam lost everything for himself.
Joseph Franklin Rutherford (1869-1942). Trimmed down. benzband ( talk ) 13:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:53, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 17:33, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 30, 2012 (3 in support, 0 against). benzband ( talk ) 13:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

→ The sea! The sea!
Xenophon in Anabasis. benzband ( talk ) 17:02, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 26, 2012 Ankit Maity Talk Contribs  11:38, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Support There are many more interesting links besides this one. Bulldog73 talk  da contribs  go rando 20:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support -- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 11:35, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

→ Take chances! Make mistakes! Get messy!
Ms Frizzle. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 17:43, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 18:51, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:13, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 25, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:33, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

→ I have seen of the street
Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 09:06, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - also think that if this gets approved, remove the pipe as i didn't come up with the quote :) benzband  ( talk ) 15:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:13, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 24, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:32, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

→ Robert De Niro's waiting, talking Italian
Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 18:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:07, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 23, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:30, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

→ This is english up with which i will not put.
Winston Churchill (1874-1965). benzband ( talk ) 14:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:08, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 23:38, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 22, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

→ The better part of valour is discretion.
Falstaff in Shakespeare's in Henry IV, Part 1 (c. 1597), Act V, Scene IV. benzband ( talk ) 13:59, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (original version) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support (also for the original version) AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 10:24, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 21, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:26, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

→ The better part of valour is discretion.
Edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 13:59, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:26, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

→ The man who can tell others what to do and how to do it, but never does it himself.
See above. benzband ( talk ) 08:32, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

P.S.: maybe the first word is not necessary. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:17, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support... but you would have had to do this, that, and the other :D.
 * Removed. benzband  ( talk ) 15:26, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support -AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 23:40, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 20, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:24, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Everyone is part-gnome
Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 15:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - How about an attribution link? benzband  ( talk ) 14:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * There isn't. I thought it was a rather true statement that I made up. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 18:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 19, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

→ Livery - Like a liver
Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 18:31, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:02, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 18, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:59, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I came, I saw vandalism, I reverted it and warned the vandal
I'm not sure what links I should add, if any. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:36, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit ) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:57, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

→ I came, I saw vandalism, I reverted it and warned the vandal
Edit 1, i have proposed some links and added an attribution link ("→") assuming you, AutomaticStrikeout, are the author :-) benzband  ( talk ) 17:11, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * You assume correctly, and I think those links work perfectly. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 17:16, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Its more veri Vidi Vici or whatever the phrase is but I think we can let it go on this occaision. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 15:00, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Veni, vidi, vici: "i came, i saw, i conquered" (Julius Caesar, 47 BC). benzband  ( talk ) 15:05, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Just like "time, department skies" I'm sure "I have seen of the street" is meaningful as well. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 15:12, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * If i was cheeky enough i'd nominate the following motto: → I have seen of the street. benzband  ( talk ) 15:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You know its →, not →. 15:33, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:OOPS. benzband  ( talk ) 15:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * What has being an administrator goot to do with it? Hmmm, I think I will try and find my way to Amarillo. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 15:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:29, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 17, 2012 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:57, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

→ We really have everything in common with America nowadays except, of course, language.
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900) in The Canterville Ghost (1887). benzband ( talk ) 08:27, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support ~ ye(a)[s]{h} :) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Why yeash? Is it really that disagreeable? Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 20:29, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the last part of the sentence: yes, yea, yeah, and also yep, yup, and etcetera... (nothing relevant). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * 'Support. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years''

✅ for Motto of the day/July 16, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

===→ Rattle his bones over the stones; He's only a pauper, whom nobody owns!=== Thomas Noel (1799-1861) in The Pauper's Drive (1841). benzband ( talk ) 08:27, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support ~ good one (as always) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:43, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 20:27, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 15, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

→ A government of laws, and not of men.
John Adams in the Boston Gazette n°7 (1774). benzband ( talk ) 08:27, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

= no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - fair enough. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 20:26, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 14, 2012 Motto of the day/July 29, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:37, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

→ Thomas Jefferson once said.
Ronald Reagan trying to justify himself. benzband ( talk ) 10:36, 7 April 2012 (UTC) "Thomas Jefferson once said, 'We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.' And ever since he told me that, I stopped worrying."

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:35, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

→ He told me that.
Edit 1, with a different excerpt of the sentence. benzband ( talk ) 08:28, 8 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Both versions are not very meaningful (IMHO, of course). The first sentence is unfinished, while the second has subject and object ("he" and "that") that are both undefined, or it is unfinished again ("that"...). But. I really like the link to WP:JIMBOSAID. What about using: "Argumentum ad Jimbonem", "Argumentum Jimbini", or "Argumentum Jimboni" directly? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Alea Jacta Est. benzband  ( talk ) 10:44, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:35, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Argumentum ad Jimbonem
Edit 2, per p joe f from the [gramatically incorrect, :D] lead. benzband ( talk ) 10:44, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

- not enough discussion. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (edit 2) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:04, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 11:37, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 13, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:35, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

→ It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Winston Churchill. benzband ( talk ) 10:36, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

→ It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
Edit 1, with "consensus". benzband ( talk ) 10:36, 7 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:47, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

- not enough discussion. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

✅ (Edit 1) for Motto of the day/July 12, 2012 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)