Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 49

→ The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he did not exist.
Charles Pierre Baudelaire (1821-1867). benzband ( talk ) 11:58, 8 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 13, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:11, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ I found that the poets were the worst possible interpreters of their own writings.
Socrates in Plato's account of his Apology. benzband ( talk ) 11:58, 8 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:01, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 12, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:08, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ I'll play it first and tell you what it is later.
Miles Dewey Davis III (26 May 1926, Alton, Illinois, US – 28 September 1991, Santa Monica, California, US) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:17, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 11:58, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 10, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:07, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ The room,— a chapter from Kruchenykh's Inferno.
"LILICHKA! (INSTEAD OF A LETTER)" by Vladimir Vladimirovich Mayakovsky (19 July 1893, Baghdati, Georgia – 14 April 1930, Moscow, U.S.S.R.) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:10, 16 April 2013 (UTC) Tobacco smoke eats the air away. The room,— a chapter from Kruchenykh's Inferno. Recall,— by the window, that day, I caressed you ecstatically, with fervor. Here you sit now, with your heart in iron armor. In a day, you'll scold me perhaps and tell me to leave.

Frenzied, my trembling arm in a gloomy parlor will hardly be able to fit the sleeve. I'll rush out and hurl my body into the street,— distraught, lashed by despair and sadness. There's no need for this, my darling, my sweet. Let's part tonight and end this madness. Either way, my love is an arduous weight, hanging on you wherever you flee. Let me bellow out in a final complaint all of my heartbroken misery. A laboring bull, if he had enough, will leave and find cool water to lie in.

But for me, there's no sea except for your love,— from which even tears won't earn me some quiet. If an elephant wants to relax, he'll lie, pompous, outside in the sun-baked dune. Except for your love, there's no sun in the sky and I don't know where you are or with whom. If you thus tormented another poet, he would trade in his love for money and fame. But nothing sounds as precious to me as the ringing sound of your darling name. I won't drink poison, or jump to demise, or pull the trigger to take my own life.

Except for your eyes, no blade can control me, No sharpened knife. Tomorrow you'll forget that it was I who crowned you, who burned out the blossoming soul with love and days will form a whirling carnival that will ruffle my manuscripts and lift them above… Will the dry autumn leaves of my sentences cause you to pause, breathing hard?

Let me pave a path with final tenderness for your footsteps as you depart.

26th May 1916, Petrograd


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 16:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - That is one long motto. Is that even allowed? Difficultly north (talk) -  Simply south alt.  15:01, 19 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I believe that the only part that is supposed to be used as the motto is "→ The room,— a chapter from Kruchenykh's Inferno." (it has always been the header alone) and the rest of it — which looks like a poem — is only the source of the quote.  smt cha hal  (talk) 09:54, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:18, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:48, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 9, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:05, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ Maybe ever’body in the whole damn world is scared of each other.
John Steinbeck, Of Mice And Men (1937). benzband ( talk ) 15:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:45, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 8, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:04, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ My view stretches out from the fence to the wall
Joy Division, Closer (1979), "The Eternal". In loving memory of Ian Kevin Curtis (15 July 1956 – 18 May 1980). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:44, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 7, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ I'm here for other children.
Fifth Grade Press Conference on World Hunger by Rachel Aliene Corrie (April 10, 1979 – March 16, 2003), aged 10 — 1990 I'm here for other children. I'm here because I care. I'm here because children everywhere are suffering and because forty thousand people die each day from hunger. I'm here because those people are mostly children. We have got to understand that the poor are all around us and we are ignoring them. We have got to understand that these deaths are preventable. We have got to understand that people in third world countries think and care and smile and cry just like us. We have got to understand that they dream our dreams and we dream theirs. We have got to understand that they are us. We are them. My dream is to stop hunger by the year 2000. My dream is to give the poor a chance. My dream is to save the 40,000 people who die each day. My dream can and will come true if we all look into the future and see the light that shines there. If we ignore hunger, that light will go out. If we all help and work together, it will grow and burn free with the potential of tomorrow. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:34, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 6, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:00, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ Your life is worth much more than gold.
Bob Marley (6 February 1945 – 11 May 1981) & The Wailers, "Jamming", Exodus (1977). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:28, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 5, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:59, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ I am Spartacus.
Spartacus (1960). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:04, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  ·addshore·  talk to me! 11:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 4, 2013 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

===→ Dulce est desipere in loco ("It is sweet on occasion to play the fool") === "It is pleasant to relax once in a while", Horace, Carmina 4/12:28. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 3, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:55, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

===→ Senseless, and deformed, Convulsive Anger storms at large; or, pale And silent, settles into fell revenge.=== James Thomson (1700–1748), The Seasons: Spring. WP:NONSENSE is a good alternative for the first link; WP:DISRUPTPOINT or WP:DISRUPT for "deformed". –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:42, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 2, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:54, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ A criminal remains a criminal whether he uses a convict's suit or a monarch's crown.
Victor Hugo (1802-1885). benzband ( talk ) 10:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:13, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:52, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ A criminal remains a criminal whether he uses a convict's suit or a monarch's crown.
Edit 1, reworked a bit. benzband ( talk ) 10:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support (edit 1) I prefer this version but the original is also very good. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:59, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

(both versions; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 21 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support -- Lee Tru.  13:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ (Edit 1) for Motto of the day/September 1, 2013 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:52, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ The First Law of Pies: "No Pastry, No Pie."
Janet Clarkson, Pie: A Global History. Came across this while in search for a potential "cake" motto for User:Matticusmadness at the motto shop (please help if you can! :) benzband  ( talk ) 10:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - pie does not necessarily have to have pastry, for example cottage pie. Simply south...... eating shoes for just 7 years 11:08, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed. benzband  ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:14, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 31, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ If we can't bite, why do they worry about us taking the bait?
 Thus Spake   Lee Tru.  15:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry but I don't fully understand the link between newcomers and goading/taking the bait. Probably providing a link for "worry" could help. Also, is this yours? If this phrase is yours then we can attribute it to you. Thanks for contributing to MotD! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:03, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is mine. Also, the point of the moto was intended to be a funny "why ask why" question.-- Thus Spake   Lee Tru.  14:54, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Support, then. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  talk 13:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 14:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 30, 2013 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:48, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ Yeah, I was in the s--t.
Rushmore (1998; scene on YT; audio). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:57, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 14:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 29, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:46, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

===→Ducunt volentem fata, nolentem trahunt ("The fates lead the willing and drag the unwilling") === Lucius Annaeus Seneca (ca. 4 BC – AD 65), Epistulae morales ad Lucilium ("Moral Epistles to Lucilius"; c. 65 AD; #107). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:45, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 14:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 27, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:44, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

===→ I am very sorry, good Horatio, That to Laertes I forgot myself, [&hellip;] But, sure, the bravery of his grief did put me Into a towering passion.=== William Shakespeare (1564-1616), The Tragedy of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, Act V, Scene II (1623). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:49, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 14:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 26, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

===→ Al cor gentil rempaira sempre amore ("Love returns always to a noble heart") === Guido Guinizzelli (1230–1276), Al cor gentil rempaira sempre amore (XIII Century). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 14:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 24, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:41, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ I don't mind being wrong, if it means a better article is written.
Found on User:117Avenue's userpage.  smt cha hal  (talk) 04:16, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: WP:IAR states: &ldquo;if a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.&rdquo; &hellip; but improving and maintaining Wikipedia does not mean that they are wrong (or only in part). They broke the rules, which makes me think that Smtchahal's interpretation could also be right. So, I have to think about it a lot more&hellip;. Also, it could be subdivided into two parts; the first pointing to WP:IAR, and the last to WP:BETTER. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think the quote means that being wrong itself helps improve Wikipedia, or that improving Wikipedia itself means being wrong — that would stand against the real concept of WP:IAR itself. If it is possible to write a better article while being wrong, it would be in the case when one ignores the Wikipedia policies and guidelines to do so (which wouldn't actually mean being wrong). From how I interpreted it, the quotation implies that a Wikipedian should not care about being wrong (ignoring policies and guidelines) if it results in a better article (improvement of Wikipedia as a neutral, unbiased source of information; as an encyclopedia). And sure, division into those two links would be good, too, but I'd still prefer this version because the quotation's meaning (for the second part) would no longer be figurative.  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:15, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, you've convinced me! ;) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:41, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 14:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 23, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:39, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ Assume that everyone's assuming good faith, assuming that you are assuming good faith.
Title of WP:AAGFAAGF. benzband ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support. What about attribution, though?  smt cha hal  (talk) 14:10, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment about attribution: we may attribute it to the article creator, User:Stifle, to the article itself, WP:AAGFAAGF, or not at all. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:36, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer attributing it to its creator (as I did with the last motto I submitted), because the essay has not been edited significantly by anyone other than its creator and attributing it to the article itself would be sort of over-linking.  smt cha hal  talk 08:18, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You are very kind. Stifle (talk) 14:59, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 20, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) and attributed to User:Stifle. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:55, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

===→ Do ut des ("I give in order that you should give [ back ] ") === The Roman legal principle of reciprocity. Digesta seu Pandectae 9/15:5. Strange but this hasn't been used before?! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:28, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - I don't think it has. Also below is another suggestion. Simply south...... eating shoes for just 7 years 11:35, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 14:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 18, 2013 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

====→ Do ut des ("I give in order that you should give [ back ] ") ====

Simply south...... eating shoes for just 7 years 11:35, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support (but I prefer the original, which is related to articles) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:22, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

====→ Do ut des ("I give in order that you should give [ back ] ") ==== Edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support (my third choice) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:22, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

→ The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct.
Occam's razor. benzband ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:32, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:23, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 16, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:25, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

→ Pa's got things for you to do, and Mother wants you. I know she does. Shane. Shane. Come back. 'Bye, Shane.
Shane (1953), ending scene. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 14:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 15, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

===→ Being once chafed, he cannot Be rein'd again to temperance; then he speaks What's in his heart.=== William Shakespeare (1564–1616), Coriolanus, Act III, Scene III. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 14:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 11, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:17, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

→ The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive.
"Private Joker" in Full Metal Jacket (Stanley Kubrick, 1987). benzband ( talk ) 10:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:13, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:12, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 10, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:12, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

→ The Devil will have to carry the last straw. =|
A proverb or something I made. Unsure. =D -- Ankit Maity Talk Contribs 09:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support and suggest removal of the last three characters. I just feel (in my modest opinion) that they're not appropriate for a motto...  smt cha hal  (talk) 14:44, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Q: | What does it mean in this case? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess it's the "blank face" one...  smt cha hal  (talk) 14:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support (with or without the blank face) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:37, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 8, 2013 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:10, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

===→ Divina natura dedit agros, ars humana aedificavit urbes ("Divine nature gave the fields, human art built the cities") === Marcus Terentius Varro (116 BC – 27 BC), De Re Rustica, 3:1. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:12, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support — smt cha hal  (talk) 05:02, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - -- Thus Spake   Lee Tru.  15:51, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 6, 2013 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:08, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

===→ Anger is like A full-hot horse; who being allowed his way, Self-mettle tires him.=== William Shakespeare (1564–1616), King Henry VIII, Act I, Scene I. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:57, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support — smt cha hal  (talk) 05:02, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 5, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:06, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

→ And yet, across the gulf of space, minds immeasurably superior to ours regarded this earth with envious eyes.
The War of the Worlds (H.G. Wells, 1898). benzband ( talk ) 10:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:13, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:48, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 13, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:41, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

→ You mean more to me than any scientific truth.
Kris Kelvin in Solaris (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1972). benzband ( talk ) 10:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:13, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Support no contest, really. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:02, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 29, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:38, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

→ The time to relax is when you don't have time for it.
Sydney J. Harris (1917 – 1986)  smt cha hal  (talk) 14:41, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:10, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:08, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 12:38, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 14, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:33, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

→ What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Cool Hand Luke (1967). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:06, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:21, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

→ What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Edit 1 (using WP:No consensus)  smt cha hal  (talk) 10:41, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * This quote was used before (with a different link), but it was like 6 years ago so i still support. benzband  ( talk ) 16:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 4, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:21, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

→ I love the smell of napalm in the morning…smells like…victory.
Apocalypse Now (1979). WP:PERFECT is a good alternative for the last link. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:36, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 12:38, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support — smt cha hal  (talk) 12:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 3, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 15:18, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

→ Who knows himself a braggart, let him fear this, for it will come to pass that every braggart shall be found an ass.
William Shakespeare: All's Well That Ends Well (circa 1604/5). benzband ( talk ) 09:45, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 08:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 1, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:26, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

→ How furious she must be, now that she's been taken at her word.
Margaret Atwood (1939—). benzband ( talk ) 09:45, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 08:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:59, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 29, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:24, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

→ For the powerful, crimes are those that others commit.
Noam Chomsky: Imperial Ambitions: Conversations on the Post-9/11 World (2005). benzband ( talk ) 09:45, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 08:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:59, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 28, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:23, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Thought, word and deed once sloganeered, a reaction undefined; The battle-hymn, the mantra of a once unfocused mind.=== Propagandhi: How to Clean a Couple o' Things (1993): "Pigs Will Pay". benzband ( talk ) 09:45, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 08:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:59, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 27, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:20, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

→ If a new vocality can exist, it must be lived by all, and not singularly.
Demetrio Stratos (22 April 1945 – 13 June 1979), Metrodora (1976). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:03, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 08:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:18, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

→ If a new vocality can exist, it must be lived by all, and not singularly.
Edit 1, using WP:YFA.  smt cha hal  (talk) 03:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 08:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:00, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 25, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:18, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ But sad as angels for the good man's sin, Weep to record, and blush to give it in.=== Thomas Campbell (27 July 1777 – 15 June 1844), The Pleasures of Hope, Pt. II (1799). WP:VANDAL could be an altrenative for "sin". –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:00, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support, with a slight preference for WP:VANDAL. benzband  ( talk ) 08:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support, but I also prefer WP:VANDAL...  smt cha hal  (talk) 09:49, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 24, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:17, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

→ God is love — I dare say. But what a mischievous devil love is!
Samuel Butler (1613-1680). benzband ( talk ) 16:49, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support — smt cha hal  (talk) 04:54, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:00, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 23, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:13, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Dis aliter visum ("It seemed otherwise to the gods") === Virgil (15 October 70 BC – 21 September 19 BC), Aeneid, 2:428. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support and suggest the attribution go to List of Latin phrases (D) :) benzband  ( talk ) 16:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:18, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support: I didn't get it at first, but maybe it was only because I didn't read it carefully...  smt cha hal  (talk) 09:51, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 22, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:10, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

→ No two people on earth are alike, and it's got to be that way in music or it isn't music.
Billie Holiday (born Eleanora Fagan; 7 April 1915, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US – 17 July 1959, New York City, New York, US). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:36, 9 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 17:15, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

→ No two people on earth are alike, and it's got to be that way in music or it isn't music.
Edit 1, using WP:About instead of Wikipedia.  smt cha hal  (talk) 13:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 16:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:22, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 20, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 12:06, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Monopolies, oligarchy, the striving for domination and not for freedom
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (22 April 1870 – 21 January 1924), "Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism" (1914). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:57, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 03:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 08:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 19, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 09:46, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Once I understood Bach's music, I wanted to be a concert pianist.
Nina Simone (21 February 1933 – 21 April 2003) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:43, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 08:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support. Yeah, my edit doesn't seem to reflect the Wikipedia guidelines.  smt cha hal  (talk) 09:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 18, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 09:46, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Once I understood Bach's music, I wanted to be a concert pianist.
Edit 1, using WP:SYSOP. Being a Wikipedia admin is, of course, very tempting.  smt cha hal  (talk) 03:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of the original)  smt cha hal  (talk) 09:46, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Round up the usual suspects.
Casablanca (1942). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:34, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 03:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 08:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 17, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 09:46, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ disiecti membra poetae ("limbs of a scattered poet") === Horace (8 December 65 BC – 27 November 8 BC), Satires, I, 4, 62 (ca. 35–33 BC). Alternative links: WP:AFD and WP:RELY. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:23, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 03:21, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 08:49, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 16, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 09:46, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

→ You Give Love a Bad Name
Bon Jovi (band; 1983–present). It is actually the title of one of their songs, not really a quotation, so I'm not sure if it is appropriate for MOTD. There's also an album by another artist of the same title, but it was released later than the song (a year later), which is why I think it appropriate to credit Bon Jovi.  smt cha hal  (talk) 11:00, 21 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 12:52, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:15, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 15, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:29, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Another piece of land that just could not be saved Another education that could not be paid Another killer in the street is roaming free Another day, another pain. another misery=== No Use For A Name: The Daily Grind (1993): Countdown. benzband ( talk ) 16:49, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support: Excellent.  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:28, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:15, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 14, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:27, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Silence is only frightening to people who are compulsively verbalizing.
William S. Burroughs (1914-1997). benzband ( talk ) 16:49, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support — smt cha hal  (talk) 05:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 2, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:24, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Oh, sons of earth! attempt ye still to rise By mountains piled on mountains to the skies? Heaven still with laughter the vain toil surveys, And buries madmen in the heaps they raise.=== An Essay on Man (1734) by Alexander Pope (1688–1744). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:52, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 16:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:52, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 13, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:55, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Diffugere nives ("The snows have fled") === Quintus Horatius Flaccus (8 December 65 BC, Venusia, Lucania, Roman Republic – 27 November 8 BC, Rome, Roman Empire), Carmina, 4/7:1. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:01, 9 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:54, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose: There's no real relation between the quote and the link, excluding the common word "snow". The motto doesn't seem to carry a message, either.  smt cha hal  (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * As I understood it, if an issue does not have "a snowball's chance in hell", it will "melt" (or here, "flee") much as snow melts. benzband  ( talk ) 20:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I see what it means now, but it seems it's not really that easy to relate the motto to the link (not to me, at least), which, I guess, is why I opposed it.  smt cha hal  (talk) 01:27, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, I support it now.  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 11, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:26, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Art must not be concentrated in dead shrines called museums. lt must be spread everywhere — on the streets, in the trams, factories, workshops, and in the workers' homes.=== "SHRINE OR FACTORY?" (1918) by Vladimir Vladimirovich Mayakovsky (19 July 1893, Baghdati, Georgia – 14 April 1930, Moscow, U.S.S.R.) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support -- smt cha hal  (talk) 09:31, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 16:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 10, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Love's boat has smashed against the daily grind.
Past one o'clock. You must have gone to bed. The Milky Way streams silver through the night. I'm in no hurry; with lightning telegrams I have no cause to wake or trouble you. And, as they say, the incident is closed. Love's boat has smashed against the daily grind. Now you and I are quits. Why bother then To balance mutual sorrows, pains, and hurts. Behold what quiet settles on the world. Night wraps the sky in tribute from the stars. In hours like these, one rises to address The ages, history, and all creation. [1930] "PAST ONE O'CLOCK" by Vladimir Vladimirovich Mayakovsky (19 July 1893, Baghdati, Georgia – 14 April 1930, Moscow, U.S.S.R.) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 07:50, 16 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - Look not far and you will find a tragedy, the daily grind. benzband  ( talk ) 16:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 9, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

→ The very substance of the ambitious is merely the shadow of a dream.
William Shakespeare (1564–1616), The Tragedy of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, Act II, Scene II (1623). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:49, 9 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 13:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 16:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 8, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

→ His ignorance is encyclopedic.
Abba Eban (1915-2002). benzband ( talk ) 17:27, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Too direct. —             07:21, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2)  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

→ His ignorance is encyclopedic.
Edit 1, using WP:WORKINPROGRESS. –p joe f (talk• contribs) 07:43, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2)  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

→ His ignorance is encyclopedic.
Edit 2, two links version. –p joe f (talk •contribs) 07:43, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support (edit 2) --            08:23, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 16:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 7, 2013 (per consensus; 3 supported and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 06:04, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

→ His ignorance is encyclopedic.
This seems subjective. Edit 3. Difficultly north (talk) -'' Simply south alt. '' 15:29, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment: This one would have been awesome if the quote said "His ignorance is Wikipedic", because conventional encyclopedias don't need citations.             13:11, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I like this version. What about adding a Wikipedia wlink to "encyclopedic", so we do not need to change the last word of the original sentence? –p joe f (talk •contribs) 08:41, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I think that would be best. HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2)  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

→ His ignorance is Wikipedic.
Edit 3a per Smtchahal. Simply south...... catching SNOWballs for just 6 years 15:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: Wouldn't that be wrongly quoting the author? I don't know if it would be right to remove that link completely, but I don't think keeping it would do any good either. smt  cha  hal  08:32, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The link to the author's Wikipedia article, that is. smt  cha  hal  05:23, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

(all versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk• contribs) 06:51, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 2)  smt cha hal  (talk) 05:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

→ The last thing I would ever do with it is send it to Wikileaks.
Jimmy Wales (1966—). benzband ( talk ) 20:49, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 01:27, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:11, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 7, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

→ I choose a block of marble and chop off whatever I don't need
François-Auguste-René Rodin (1840—1917). benzband ( talk ) 20:49, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 01:27, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:12, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 12, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:23, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Act as if it were impossible to fail.
Dorothoea Brande (1893 – 1948)  smt cha hal  (talk) 14:47, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 20:26, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:13, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 5, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:21, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Act as if it were impossible to fail.
Edit 1, with WP:CANTBREAKIT. benzband ( talk ) 20:26, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:21, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Ah, les cons! Ah, the fools! === Édouard Daladier (1884–1970), to his aide Alexis Leger while returning from signing the Munich Agreement (he had been expecting a hostile crowd, but instead was acclaimed). See also con. benzband ( talk ) 09:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)


 * neutral - not too sure about swearing in the MOTD, and WP:FOOL isn't the nicest of project-space pages, either. Kayau (talk · contribs) 12:29, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

(not enough discussion and no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:34, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 13:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:15, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 4, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Well, a boy's best friend is his mother.
Psycho (1960; based on the 1959 novel Psycho by Robert Bloch). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:06, 9 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 15:54, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 13:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/July 1, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 17:08, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Little boxes, little boxes, Little boxes, all the same.=== Malvina Reynolds (1900-1978). benzband ( talk ) 17:43, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:45, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 13:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 30, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 17:08, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Excuse me, I'm not a category.
Reagan Youth: "No Class". benzband ( talk ) 11:53, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support  smt cha hal  (talk) 13:58, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 29, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed)  smt cha hal  (talk) 17:08, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

→ With all due respect sir, this is my boat.
Carl Knox (William H. Macy) in Down Periscope HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:43, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:45, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 28, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:23, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Education is the kindling of a flame, not the filling of a vessel.
Socrates (469-399 BC). benzband ( talk ) 12:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:46, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 27, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:21, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.
Plato (428/7-348/7 BC). benzband ( talk ) 12:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Strong Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:47, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 26, 2013 (per consensus; 3.5 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:20, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ We shall be using strong means; resistance is useless!
Staatsanwalt Norbert Von Wenk in Dr. Mabuse, der Spieler (Fritz Lang, 1922). benzband ( talk ) 12:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:48, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 23, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:18, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Licorice, mmmm. If there's anything I'm a sucker for, it's licorice.
Adam's Rib (1949) "Licorice" scene at YouTube. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:19, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 22, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Difficile est saturam non scribere ("It is hard not to write satire") ===

difficile est saturam non scribere. nam quis iniquae tam patiens urbis, tam ferreus, ut teneat se&hellip;

It is hard not to write Satire. For who is so tolerant of the unjust City, so steeled, that he can restrain himself&hellip; Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis (late 1st – early 2nd century A.D.), Saturae, Satura 1:30. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 21, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:15, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ O, sons of earth! attempt ye still to rise, By mountains piled on mountains to the skies? Heaven still with laughter the vain toil surveys, And buries madmen in the heaps they raise.=== An Essay on Man (1734), Epistle IV by Alexander Pope (21 May 1688 – 30 May 1744). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:52, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support -- smt cha hal 10:21, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 20, 2013 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:13, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ If you want to know what God thinks about money, look at the people He gave it to.
Dorothy Parker (1893-1967). —             13:43, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:34, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 18, 2013 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:12, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ My precious.
''The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:52, 12 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - Would it be better if the quote was attributed directly to Gollum? benzband  ( talk ) 17:03, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure! I've changed the attribution in all versions. Thanks for the hint, Ben. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support any, with a slight preference to this one. HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ (original version) for Motto of the day/June 16, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ My precious.
Edit 1, using Help:Preferences. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:52, 12 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 17:03, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ My precious.
Edit 2, with WP:NOTYOURS. It's maybe too obvious/bland though. benzband ( talk ) 17:03, 12 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

(all versions; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:12, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Desinas ineptire ("Cease your folly") === Gaius Valerius Catullus (ca. 84 BC – ca. 54 BC), 8:1. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:47, 12 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Suffrago - benzband  ( talk ) 17:03, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Cease your folly? That already happened in the UK hundreds of years ago. Simply south...... catching SNOWballs for just 6 years 18:16, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:11, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 15, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Why don't you write books people can read?
Nora Joyce, addressing husband James Joyce. benzband ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:04, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * support Kayau (talk · contribs) 12:22, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 14, 2013 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:05, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ This isn't right, this isn't even wrong.
Wolfgang Pauli (1900-1958). benzband ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:06, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 15, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:03, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Diem perdidi ("I have lost the day") === Roman Emperor Titus in Suetonius's The Twelve Caesars, Life of Titus, 8:1. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:35, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 13, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:01, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ We belong dead.
Bride of Frankenstein (1935). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:23, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 12, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:59, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ But see how oft ambition's aims are crossed, And chiefs contend 'til all the prize is lost!=== The Rape of the Lock (1712), Canto V, Alexander Pope (21 May 1688 – 30 May 1744). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:18, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * support Kayau (talk · contribs) 01:53, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 11, 2013 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:57, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

===→ Dictis facta suppetant ("Let deeds correspond with words") === Titus Maccius Plautus (ca. 254–184 BC), Pseudolus 1:107, and the core of Sywndzian Legalism. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:19, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:55, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

====→ Dictis facta suppetant ("Let deeds correspond with words") ==== Edit 1. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:19, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - the link on this one corresponds more to the quote. benzband  ( talk ) 21:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ (Edit 1) for Motto of the day/June 10, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:55, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Who's on First
A comedy routine made most famous by Abbott and Costello in The Naughty Nineties (1945), deriving from American burlesque shows of the second half of the 19th century, which in turn derives from Victorian burlesque or travesty or extravaganza that has its roots in the Italian, Latin and Greek comedies. Disambiguation pages with links could be a good alternative. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:50, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 21:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support HueSatLum 14:45, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 9, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:53, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

→ It's just as naive to say everyone sucks as it is to think everyone's kind.
Plow United: Marching Band (2013): "The World Is A Sllum". benzband ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support — smt cha hal 04:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:04, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 8, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

→ It is better to be quotable than to be honest.
Tom Stoppard. benzband ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support — smt cha hal 04:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 7, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:32, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

→ If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?
Will Rogers (1879-1935). benzband ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support — smt cha hal 04:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 4, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:30, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

→ A pint of sweat saves a gallon of blood.
General George S. Patton (1885-1945). benzband ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support — smt cha hal 04:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:06, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 21, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:27, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

→ In order to be irreplaceable one must always be different.
Coco Chanel (1883-1971) — smt  cha  hal  14:34, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:07, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 4, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:25, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

→ Forget it, Jake, it's Chinatown.
''Chinatown (1974). –p joe f (talk • contribs)


 * support - clearly, we are the most civilised race, and our overseas brethren are no exception. :P Kayau (talk · contribs) 12:31, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:35, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support - No offense to Chinatownsmen, of course. benzband  ( talk ) 19:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/June 3, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:23, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

You will be imprisoned for contributing your time and skill to a bank robbery.
Unknown author. The links, of course, are my work. —             10:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:21, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

You will be imprisoned for contributing your time and skill to a bank robbery.
Edit 1, with WP:WoT and WP:Game. benzband ( talk ) 16:00, 15 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Support (edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:33, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support (Edit 1) — smt  cha  hal  07:07, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/May 31, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:21, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

→ I don't want to ever have to put that thing at 1/2 mast again for the rest of my career. That's it.
For September 11. Quotation by Tony Benetatos, a probationary firefighter of the New York City Fire Department, in 9/11. Note: the link (WP:HIDE) is not the best possible. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - maybe WP:Blackouts? benzband  ( talk ) 10:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:13, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

→ I don't want to ever have to put that thing at 1/2 mast again for the rest of my career. That's it.
Edit 1 for September 11 with WP:Blackouts instead of WP:HIDE (per benzband ). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:33, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:33, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Support naturally. benzband  ( talk ) 16:50, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 11, 2013 (per consensus; 2 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:13, 18 June 2013 (UTC)