Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/Archive/2009/December

how do I move from draft to article
I want to know how to move a proposed article done in the wizard to a wiki page. It's on the non-profit Aid For AIDS. Please help - so confused! Thanks. Marcomgirl (talk) 22:11, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Any user who is autoconfirmed can move pages, which happens automatically once an account is at least four days old and has at least ten edits. The edit you made to ask this question was your tenth, so you should now have the ability to move User:Marcomgirl/Aid For AIDS by pressing the "move" tab on the top of the page.  --Mysdaao talk 22:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Marcomgirl (talk) 22:11, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

light on dark
Hi, I'd like to use wikipedia with light text on a dark background, is there an option for this somewhere? Polarpanda (talk) 17:11, 27 November 2009 (UTC)


 * On your 'My Preferences' link at the top of the page, go to the Gadgets tab and there's a box to check under the 'user interface gadgets' section if you want a black background with green text. Alexius  Horatius  17:15, 27 November 2009 (UTC)


 * But due warning, it looks hideous. – ukexpat (talk) 18:16, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

colors
I was wondering how to figure out what font number I need for different colors. For an example I am the voice of mud. that gets me this: I am the voice of mud --★☛☛undefined★ 00:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Have a look at web colors. Your signature is an abomination, by the way. Algebraist 00:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

How do I request a page to be semi protected?
I have experienced misuse on one Wikipedia page by not registered users and I would like to request/issue protection for the page. Please reply on my talk page. ThanksAfp1 (talk) 11:08, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied there. TN X Man  12:45, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Are articles about a subject the editor is involved with automatically COI?
Are articles about a subject the editor is involved with automatically COI?

i.e. If I am a psychologist and I am involved in research on "The Effects of Electroconvulsive Shock Therapy on the Estrus Cycle of Rats" will it automatically be a conflict of interest for me to author an article on that subject or say, The Effects of Electroconvulsive Shock Therapy, or the Effects of Electroconvulsive Shock On Female Reproduction?

I would think that familiarity with a subject would be necessary to produce high quality articles but there seems to be a lot of discussion about articles being nominated for deletion due to the author being intimately involved in some aspect of the subject. There is a whole series of conflict of interests archives. IMHO conflict of interest does not preclude notability but I'm not sure this is the view taken by many admins. What's your take on this?

My POV - If I am knowledgeable about a subject, involved with it as part of my work, and willing to share the information but likely to be tagged for deletion after putting great effort into writing something; why would I spend the time to write about it? As a matter of fact I would go one step further and say that some level of self interest is involved in the writing of almost any article, with the possible exception of paid writing, which coincidentally has been deemed by some admins to be a conflict of interest.

( see Wikipedia_talk:Conflict_of_interest/Archive_4 )

Jonvanv (talk) 04:59, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * To answer your first question, no this is not automatically a COI. A conflict of interest is when an editor is motivated by other factors rather than encyclopedic writing, these may include money or status. If you can write about a topic neutrally in an acceptable manner than you are not writing from a conflict of interest.  If your relationship with the topic makes writing about it difficult or impossible without adding bias to the article (purposely or accidently) than you operate under a COI.  For example, it is almost impossible to write an article about yourself of a business you own, but if you have a standard career such as being a teacher than your experience with the position may help the article. And naturally, if you write in a specific way for monetary benefit or personal clout than that is disruptive editing with a COI. This essay summarizes my view of the matter quite well. From how you summarize your situation, I don't think you would operate under a COI and I would welcome your edits until substantial evidence can show otherwise.  Them  From  Space  05:11, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I would suggest our no original research guideline as further reading; while you are of course free to edit our articles, please note that information added, including conclusions drawn and synthesis, must have reliable sources to back it up. Glass  Cobra  15:28, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Advice on a draft page in my userspace
Hi

I would like advice about the proposed article I wish to move from my userspace to go live, however before I do, I need guidance as to if it is suitable and also how I get it into the right catergories.

Thank you for any advice.

Mustardyellow (talk) 15:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)MustardyellowMustardyellow (talk) 15:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * User:Mustardyellow/space2 - Please take a look at WP:CORP for guidance as to notability. If you can find sources that support notability then you should cite them, and such sources must give significant coverage and not just passing mentions. If they have appeared on the TV shows and in the papers mentioned in the draft, it should be easy to find references. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 16:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

How to create a infobox template
How can I add new fields to an already existing infobox template, or is there a way to create a new template. Could someone help with the formatting syntax. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apollidon (talk • contribs) 15:59, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Ibox coding can be tricky, so the best thing to do would be to leave a message on the template's talk page suggesting the change. Also, if it is a template that falls within the scope of one or more Wikiprojects, a note on the relevant Wikiproject talk page(s) would be a good idea too. – ukexpat (talk) 16:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Reverting to an earlier version due to vandalism
Can someone please help me undo the obvious vandalism on the Suffragette page? I undid it to the last version but see that hasn't sorted it. I see people reverting vandalised pages to several versions earlier. How is this done?

Peteinterpol (talk) 23:32, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Pete,
 * Thanks for helping out.
 * There are two ways to do this.
 * In the history tab, click the radio buttons of the last good version, and the current version, and hit enter. This will provide you with a "cumulative diff" of all the intervening changes.  If you click "undo" at the top right of this diff page, and save it, it will go back to the last good version.
 * Alternately, in the history tab, click on the date/time of the last good version. That will take you to the last good version.  If you click edit, then save, this also goes back to the last good version.
 * Let me know if this is unclear. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you Floquenbeam. I had a look at this but am still puzzled.  Where you say, "In the history tab, click the radio buttons of the last good version, and the current version, and hit enter.  This will provide you with a "cumulative diff" of all the intervening changes.  If you click "undo" at the top right of this diff page, and save it, it will go back to the last good version.", I can't see "undo" at the top right of the page.  Is it a button, or a hyperlink?  I can only see the "undo" at the end of the line for each revision.  Is that what you mean?


 * I also had a go at your second solution, but I see the page is unchanged; again, am I missing something?


 * Thanks


 * Peteinterpol (talk) 06:41, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * First question: It's a hyperlink, not on the history page, but on the diff page. If you click two radio buttons on the history page and then either click the "compare selected revisions" button or hit enter, the diff page will come up.  At the top will be two headers; next to the top right "Current Revison as of" header is an "(undo)" hyperlink.


 * Second question, I'm wondering if the page is unchanged after you try this because the change you were trying to make has already been made? If there's no difference between the two versions, the software won't save a new version of the page.


 * A good place to play around with this, without having to hunt for pages needing to be undone, is the WP:SANDBOX.


 * Hope that was clear; if not, we can give it another shot. --Floquenbeam (talk) 11:42, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your patience Floquenbeam, trying out both methods in Sandbox has made it much clearer and I see how it works.


 * Best wishes.


 * Peteinterpol (talk) 14:20, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * You're quite welcome. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:42, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Few Questions
I have a few questions.

I notice some people making comments within an article explaining why something is wrong, rather than deleting a section that's questionable. Is that the right way to do it, or if I'm positive something is a personal opinion, or incorrect, do I just delete it?

Same with links - on the belly dance page there's a whole section on belly dance in the UK which lists a few belly dance schools and events out of the hundreds existing in that country - there's no reason why they are important, it seems like just a way to get links. Do I ask the question of the community or just ditch it?

Finally, I was gobsmacked to see Wikipedia entries for individual pop music singles (Akon's Bellydancer, for instance). Is this justifiable?Marisa Wright (talk) 00:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, almost any subject can have an article as long as it's written neutrally and has received significant coverage in independent reliable sources (which makes something notable). As for the list of belly dance schools in the UK, that sounds like indiscriminate info to me that probably can be removed without any issue. Please feel free to post again if you have further questions. TN X Man  01:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * In answer to your first question: the general recommendation is to be bold: if you find something wrong, correct it. But it's not always clear what is the best way to correct it: do you simply delete something that's wrong, do you try to correct it, do you research to find missing sources, do you tag it and maybe put a message on the talk page? What if I think that's wrong, but I'm not an expert on the subject and I think I may be mistaken? What if something is unreferenced but I haven't time right now to go looking for sources?
 * There's no single answer to these questions. What I'll do is something like the following:
 * If I'm sure something is wrong and unsourced, I'll delete it
 * If I think it's wrong but I'm not sure, and I have time (and interest) I'll research it, correct it if necessary, and source it. (I hope I don't just replace unsourced material I believe to be wrong by unsourced material I believe to be right, but I'm sure I did in my early WP days)
 * If I haven't time or interest for that I may tag it with.
 * For material that I have no reason to doubt, but is unsourced, again if I have time and interest I will look for sources for it, otherwise I'll tag it with . I would be entitled to delete unsourced material irrespective of its correctness, but I generally don't: it's better to fix the problem, or tag it inviting others to fix the problem, than to lose the information - provided it is information of value.
 * For material which just does not belong (trivial and other non-encyclopaedic material) I sometimes just delete it, but I admit I'm not as bold as I could be.
 * This is just my personal approach, but I hope it partly answers your question. --ColinFine (talk) 08:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * To specifically respond to your first point–it is never acceptable to explain within an article why something is wrong with the article. There are two main places for such comments; on the talk page associated with the article, if you want to discuss the point with other editors, or in the edit summary if you do make the change (or both).-- SPhilbrick  T  17:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Suns Neither Rise Nor Set
Suns Neither Rise Nor Set, is an exhibition Curated by the 1st year MA Curating Contemporary Art, Royal College of Art. The show will take place in the Hockney Gallery, in the Stevens Building, Royal College of Art, Jay Mews SW7 2EU.

Opening Wednesday 9 December 2009, 6.30 - 8.30pm Exhibition continues 10 - 18 December 2009.

Suns Neither Rise Nor Set brings together work by Vanessa Billy, Richard Rigg, Kim Rugg, Nina Beier & Marie Lund, Richard Hughes and The Atlas Group / Walid Raad. Using everyday objects, archival materials and collage techniques, these works call into question the processes through which reality and illusion are constructed in visual communication and perception, helping us visualise the oscillating line between fact and fiction.

Vanessa Billy’s Suns neither rise nor set (2008), from which the exhibition takes its title, alludes to the fact that everyday events, such as the rising and setting of the sun, are human constructs rather than universal truths; just one part of a system of symbols and narratives that supports our understanding of the world. In collapsing an established fiction, Billy’s mode of address is formal yet poetic, differing from the more discursive approach of The Atlas Group, whose archival documents of Lebanon’s recent history are also of questionable authenticity.

As well as deconstructing old fictions, The Atlas Group also claim new ones, as do Kim Rugg and Richard Rigg. Rugg does so by reconfiguring the language and formal conventions of a newspaper, casting doubt upon the role of journalism in our interpretation of events. Whereas Rigg has created an exacting, but flawed, replica of his own desk as a playful proposition. Resting atop the original, it recalls the impossibility of such a reflection. In different ways, each of the artists in this exhibition question or deconstruct weighty or complex notions, such as time (Richard Hughes) or declarations of protest (Nina Beier & Marie Lund). In doing so, they demonstrate a remarkable lightness of touch, tending to pose more questions than they seek to answer, thereby bringing to light the uncertainties that pervade the production and reception of knowledge.

This exhibition is sponsored by Grolsch.

With thanks to Laura Bartlett, Nettie Horn, Limoncello, Anthony Reynolds, The Modern Institute, and Workplace Gallery for their kind help and support. - UPCOMING FIRST YEAR MA CURATING CONTEMPORARY ART EVENTS Fictional Geographies A screening of artists’ films, 14 January 2010, 6pm Royal College of Art, Lecture Theatre 1 Challenging conventional notions of geography as an objective mapping tool, Fictional Geographies looks at alternative modes of engaging with space and place. Where do we go from here? Salon discussion, 27 January 2010, 6.30pm Royal College of Art, Café A salon discussion exploring the current and possible future strategies for navigating a recessional cultural landscape. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nazarenocrea (talk • contribs) 23:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you have a question for the New Contributors' Help Page? It looks as if you are trying to write an article. This is not the right place for it, and if you tried to put what you have written in an article it would rapidly be deleted as advertising, and probably also for lack of notability. Please also read WP:YFA. --ColinFine (talk) 00:18, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

sources and references
hello, I wrote an article (biography) on a living person and apparently there are no enough sources or references. I already added links to different sources and references, but the message requesting more sources is still in the page (Adelina von Fürstenberg's bio). Could you please explain what kind of sources I should add in the article? thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Open09 (talk • contribs) 11:24, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your question. Looking at the Adelina von Fürstenberg article, I see three references
 * Hangar Bicocca: The home page doesn't mention von Fürstenberg. A search of their website found 5 references to her "curating" exhibitions - but personally, that does not show me that she is any different to any other person who arranges/hosts exhibitions.
 * Marina Abramovic, Balkan Epic: von Fürstenberg edited this, but I can't find any indication that she is any more notable than any other exhibition organisor.
 * Stories on Human Rights: IMDB shows that she was the producer of this.
 * To be honest, I agree that these sources do not actually demonstrate that she is notable. Also, the fact that I had to search to find out her connection to the references isn't a good sign - any web-based references should take the reader straight to where she is mentioned.
 * What you need to add are references from reliable, independent sources which amount to significant coverage. A quick search found very minor mentions at Google Scholar, Google Books and Google News. Some of the News hits may be significant, but a quick look through them only showed minor coverage (often along the lines of "von Fürstenberg organised xyz" - although the first hit was a NYT one, which may be useful). Keep looking for reliable sources! Incidently, mention should be made of the the indictment on October 27, 1994 of von Fürstenberg "for embezzlement, forgery and forgery and use of illegal workers" - articles should cover all aspects of a person's life that are relevant to their field of work, both positive and negative. -- Phantom Steve /talk &#124;contribs \ 13:05, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Claverham Beer Festival'
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Tall (talk • contribs)
 * Hello Richard. I have removed the text of the article you placed here. This page is for posting questions and the text of an article or proposed article does not belong here. I'm not sure what you were going for in writing this here, but if it was a review, I would tell you that the article text, as posted, cited no sources verifying the content and read like an advertisement. Also, and more importantly, I've just discovered the text was a copyright infringement of this website. For that reason I have deleted the article you posted separately. You have received a message on your talk page about this.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:01, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Editing embedded tables?
I noticed an error on the GTA IV page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV#Synopsis). Note that under Synopsis, on the right, there is a table of the chronology of the game, which I can't seem to edit in normal editing mode (clicking edit at the top of the page), as it seems like an embedded object. How can I make changes to this table and others like it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weirdo81622 (talk • contribs) 00:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It is a template/navbox, not a table. What sort of edits do you want made to it?  Intelligent  sium  00:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * The above link on "template" is not so relevant here. Help:Template is better. The box at Grand Theft Auto IV is generated by the code . This means the source of the box is at Template:Grand Theft Auto chronology which, like other transcluded pages, is linked at the bottom of the window when you click "edit this page" on Grand Theft Auto IV. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Parakeets
Just wondering how to submit a link to my site. I have a live webcam on my parakeets 24/7. Well the light actually goes out from 11pm to 4:30am to give them a break, but for the rest of each day they are live. I thought that maybe this would be a good link to content about parakeets or pet birds. Thanks. Hello Parakeet www.helloparakeet.com or http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hello-parakeet TC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.161.75 (talk) 04:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I do not think that your link would be suitable for inclusion, as I do not feel that it meets the criteria at "What should be linked" - it also meets condition 11 of "Links to be avoided", which states that Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority [should be avoided]. -- Phantom Steve /talk &#124;contribs \ 08:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

clinical pharmacology
a hypertensive patient after taking beta blocker comes in shock ,then how will manage them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhinav abhay (talk • contribs) 13:12, 6 December 2009 (UTC) We cannot offer medical advice. Please see the medical disclaimer. Contact your General Practitioner. -- Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 13:18, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

MARKETING MANAGEMENT
"New product introduction is often the best strategy to arrest the decline in sales and profits."Do you agree? Expalin the other straegy option that are available to secure this objective/discuss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.139.55 (talk) 13:45, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. However, they may tell you to do your own homework. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do your own homework. Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here not to do others' homework, but merely to aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems. Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can or. If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 17:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Combined distributed intelligence
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Combined Distributed intelligence refers to a process by which large numbers of people simultaneously converge upon the same point(s) of highest knowledge not achievable by any other means and in the same token distribute it to wide audiences. It is process in which large audience directly participate to converge upon the same point(s) knowledge and by doing so achieve higher form of cooperation.

Contents

•	1 History

•	2 See also •	3 References and further reading

History

Throughout history we could see rise and fall of great empires. They all fall because they did not have sustainable either economic or social structure or both. Exception are making only isolated cases of natural disasters that were not caused by human them self. First step to rectify that failure is Professor Thomas W. Malone explanation decentralization and its benefits:

(1) encourages motivation and creativity;

(2) allows many minds to work simultaneously on the same problem; and

(3) accommodates flexibility and individualization."

But history proved that decentralization is not enough.

See also

Peter Turchin’s book War and Peace and War..

References and further reading

Fortress of Wisdom Exploring a new method to allow humanity to unite with the help of COMBINED DISTRIBUTED INTELLIGENCE

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sameonea (talk • contribs) 23:43, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Looks to me like you are trying to write an article here. This is a place to ask questions, not post proposed articles. Check out Article_wizard_2.0 for a convenient way to start a new article.-- SPhilbrick  T  01:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

File Uploaded in error
I´m new to editing Wikipedia and have uploaded a file in error (CHEVROLET-BONANZA-4.0-CUSTOM-L-8V-DIESEL-2P-MANUAL-58750752009111620121854.jpg, caused by fat finger syndrome, sorry.) Is it not possible for regular folks to delete files, or do I have to wait for an admin to do it?

regards GrahamTM (talk) 12:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Deletion does require an admin, but you can speed up the process by placing a tag on the file page (here: File:CHEVROLET-BONANZA-4.0-CUSTOM-L-8V-DIESEL-2P-MANUAL-58750752009111620121854.jpg). Gonzonoir (talk) 12:40, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou! GrahamTM (talk) 12:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Gonzonoir (talk) 12:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Review my New article for neutral tone?
Hi, I've been having some ongoing discussions with a couple of WP reviewers and editors about a new article I have been trying to create. Originally, the article was deleted because the administrator felt it wasn't written in a neutral enough tone. I've re-edited the article at User:Julieapeck/BizFilings. One of the reviewers involved in my discussions thus far said I might be able to get someone to take a look at the newly edited page and give me some feedback -- before I move it to the public side. Ideally, I'd like to get the tone right before the page gets moved, rather than having to argue against deletion again. Can you help? Thanks. Julieapeck (talk) 20:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, Julieapeck. I'm doing a bit of tidying up of the draft, then I'll look through it for neutrality etc. I'll leave a comment on your talk page when I'm done! -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 21:28, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Great! Thanks for your help! I'll look forward to your comments.Julieapeck (talk) 21:37, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

HelpME publish my page and establish my references
''I am extremely new to Wikipedia and would like to know the process of getting Fixie Bicycle Company page available through a wiki search. When I search wiki for Fixie Bicycle Company the reference page or any other world related to Fixie page for that matter nothing returns from the show. I would like to also attach references that relate to the fixed gear an single speed bicycles that are already on wiki and reference them to Fixie Bicycle Company page. Further more what is the difference between Fixiebc at the top of my page and My Contribution, which one is viewable by the public? If I ever do figure this out I would to assist more in the effort''

Fixie b. 06:49, 8 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fixiebc (talk • contribs)
 * Your username, Fixiebc, indicates you are associated with Fixie Bicycle Company and want to create an article on Wikipedia in order to promote the company. In that case, you should not be editing Wikipedia just to promote the company because it is a conflict of interest.  Your username may also be a violation of Wikipedia's username policy because it is promotional.
 * When you are logged in, "Fixiebc" at the top links to your user page, a page intended to be used to facilitate communication between users about Wikipedia, and "my contributions" at the top links to your user contributions, a list of edits you have made. Both are viewable by anyone using Wikipedia.  --Mysdaao talk 13:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Further to Mysdaao's reply, I would like to add that Fixie Bicycle Company does not appear to meet either the General Notability guidelines or the Notability Guidelines for Companies. I can find no indication that this company is notable - there are no Google News hits for it, and all of the Google Search hits are social networking sites, which are not reliable sources of information for Wikipedia. They are a new company (founded in 2009 according to your Facebook account) - which is another indication that they are probably not a notable company at the moment. The two websites associated with it are a blog and an eBay shop (the blog started on 16th Nov, the ebay Shop seems to indicate that the company has been in existance since 30th Sept). <a href="http://www.game2guide.com/" >wow gold</a> <a href="http://www.game2guide.com/" >buy wow gold</a>  <a href="http://aion.game2guide.com/" >cheapest aion gold</a>

David A. Kolb vandalism
I can't find where to report this but I have seen that the David A. Kolb page has been vandalised. I felt that trhis should be reported. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.65.32 (talk) 14:16, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed. If you'd like to know more about how to revert this kind of thing yourself, there's some useful info at WP:Vandalism (or you can ask here).  But if not, thanks for the heads up. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

New Unreviewed Article
I recently created an article on wikipedia but it does not look like other articles because it says 'this is a new unreviewed article' at the top. It also says something about that template being removed once the page is viewed by someone other than me. My question is: do I need to remove the template? And how would I know if Im supposed to remove it once someone else has reviewed it? Do I ask a friend to review it or is it supposed to be reviewed by an administrator from Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.12.7.237 (talk) 15:45, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Is this the article in question? TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  15:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes...it is. 173.12.7.237 (talk) 16:17, 18 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.12.7.237 (talk) 16:11, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It looks very spammy to me. Even if that issue is dealt with, there may still be notability issues. You will need some third party reliable sources to support claims of notability. Also, please make sure that you are signed in when you edit so that your edits are properly attributed. – ukexpat (talk) 16:19, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for your help. Once A third-party reviews it and it is no longer 'spammy', will the template at the top be removed? 173.12.7.237 (talk) 17:36, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I have removed the "unreviewed" tag and added some maintenance tags in its place. – ukexpat (talk) 17:44, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I also moved it to ImaGem in accordance with our naming conventions. – ukexpat (talk) 17:48, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok thanks so much! I will continue to work on this page to add more third-party sources. 173.12.7.237 (talk) 17:50, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Note though it's not just sourcing, the tone and content need fixing too - for example long lists of features with no discussion of their notability are usually a giveaway as to promotional intent. And please sign in so your edits are properly attributed! – ukexpat (talk) 17:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, im sorry, and yes I plan to fix all the things you mentioned. I will probably just make good use of my talk page to get help in the areas that have been highlighted. Grader222 (talk) 18:18, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Stub template is not shown at the end ...
Hi, I have placed a stub template in an article (Kalhovdfjorden) that I was editing, but now the stub template is shown more or less in the middle of the - small - article, between a picutre and an infobox.

Yes, I have placed it at the very end of the article. I also tried to put it right after the categories but it never goes to the end of the article. Does anyone know how to get it below the picture ie. at the end of the article? Kmw2700 (talk) 17:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * If I understand what you're asking, then I think I fixed it. The clear template forces the text following it to start below the picture. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:20, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, you fixed it. Thanks! Kmw2700 (talk) 17:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You're quite welcome. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:31, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

New Page - Rapture3D
I've been asked by a couple of people to prepare a page on Rapture3D. I've put a first cut at rfurse/Rapture3D - does it look okay?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rfurse (talk • contribs) 17:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Well done for creating it under your user page and asking, rather than just going ahead and creating it in article space. It would have been useful if you had provided a link to it by typing User:rfurse/Rapture3D, which would result in the following link: User:rfurse/Rapture3D.
 * However, I'm afraid that as it stands, the article will probably be deleted as soon as you move it into article space, because it has no independent reliable sources, and so does not establish that it is notable. Please read the articles I have linked to, and also your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 23:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! What would be good reliable sources for this? I can see that blueripplesound.com is a primary source (and good for the precise details) but I was hoping the game review would be okay as a secondary. There's lots of stuff in forums that I suppose also qualifies as secondary, but this seems a strange thing to reference... --Rfurse (talk) 09:48, 14 December 2009 (GMT)


 * See WP:Notability (software). Frankly, if you have not found obviously reliable independent sources by now, there probably aren't any, and the package does not (at present) meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. --ColinFine (talk) 23:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * And no, forums are not in any way reliable sources. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:21, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay; I don't really understand what to do, so I'm going to leave this for someone braver ;-) I might try requesting the page. Rfurse (talk) 10:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry to say, but the article probably cannot be improved to the point where it would be accepted at Wikipedia. We try not to discourage editors by saying what they're trying to do can't be done, so we just say the article isn't ready at present, and avoid second-guessing what efforts the writer could take to change it.  The question is, is this topic something you might expect to see in a "real" (printed) encyclopedia?  Probably not, but it could be part of a computer reference book, which Wikipedia is not.  As another point, the article isn't written in a way that can be understood by a casual reader.  Terms such as "first to third order" are not explained. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 12:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Assuming that you establish notability. Please also consider adding categories to the article, so that people can find it. Racepacket (talk) 06:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Cross-linking from other languages
Hi,

Is it against policy to link across languages? An example can be found in the article "Personalism." In the English Wikipedia, this article contains an active link to another article named "Borden Parker Bowne." In the Norwegian Wikipedia, however, in the article "Personalisme" the link to "Borden Parker Bowne" is a red hotlink, and leads to the "no such article" screen.

Is it against Wikipedia policy to insert a working link to the English article from the Norwegian one? Anyone who reads "Personalisme" likely reads English.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.75.79.141 (talk) 05:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


 * See Help:Interwiki linking for all of the technical details on linking between different language wikipedias. With the exception of "interlanguage links", a specific type of interwiki linking, you wouldn't want to cause a jump from the Norwegian Wikipedia to the English one; if the Borden Parker Bowne article still needs to be created at the Norwegian Wikipedia, then please do so if you have the ability to translate from English to Norwegian.  The two projects are functionally independent, and it isn't very practical to expect Norwegian readers to want to read an English article.  -- Jayron  32  06:43, 16 December 2009 (UTC)


 * The poster already said that readers of Personalisme are likely to know English, so that doesn't seem to be the problem to me. However once they jumped onto English Wikipedia, they'd have the problem of jumping back onto Norwegian Wikipedia without a handy nearby link to help them. (This is already a problem when you do something like open up a picture or use Wiktionary or Wikisource: you're in a different part of Wikicommons and have to find your way back.) —— Shakescene (talk) 07:43, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Goo+reincarnation
Although I'm not into reincarnation, I went to a class with a friend about reincarnation. Oddly enough, I was able to see certain things in a few people. When I volunteered to go on stage, the Shaman did some exercise with his hands and asked one of the women if she knew what he was doing. She responded,yes, removing the goo.

Didn't sound too great to me! He did this for about 5 min. He moved his hands about as if removing, reshaping, and holding something.

He then allowed the viewers to express what they saw in me. Thankfully, there was nothing but good that people saw, but what was this GOO he made reference to? 71.97.55.120 (talk) 07:10, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


 * This page is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. The Reference desk is the place to ask questions like this.  Our article about reincarnation says nothing about goo.  As a response to your story, I'm a cynic, and my take is that you attended an entertainment show with people putting on an act.  "The shaman... asked one of the woman if she knew what she was doing" suggests they were pretending to be strangers, but they probably do that act together regularly.  "Thankfully, there was nothing but good", but the cynic in me says that if you returned to the group, showing a possible long-term interest in them, they might suddenly find things wrong with you and put you through a lot of mumbo-jumbo "therapy" which will end up costing you money.  Pseudoscience and parapsychology medicine shows exist to entertain, to substitue for religion, and to seek out victims for scams.  The latter makes me disinterested in enjoying it for entertainment.  Never had interest in horoscopes, having my palm read, my tea leaves examined, or my body checked for auras and goo.  Enjoy yourself if you must, but keep your wallet closed. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 08:23, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Help
I've written an article  Wompkees I need help putting in how I verified information. I have links, sources, etc, but can not figure out how to put them onto the page.TomTMaine (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


 * For now, beautiful formatting isn't critical; that can be later. I've fixed one mistake I found; you need to put around your references to have them show up in the references section. Otherwise, you'e linking to them ok. You can write them Descriptive text here if you want the links to have text displayed with them. I've left more advice, including pointers to WP:References, WP:Reliable sources, and WP:Notability on your talk page. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:57, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Finding errors
I would like to get my contributions up (http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/count/index.php?name=Paperfork&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia). Do you have any ideas or tips for finding errors? Paper fork  13:04, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Paperfork. First of all, Wikipedia isn't about getting high edit counts - quality is more important than quantity! My main tip for finding errors is to look at articles about subjects in which you are knowledgeable. Read through them, compare the article with the cited sources - perhaps find other reliable sources - and make corrections as required. If you find an article which has few or no references, look for some - use Google Scholar/Books/News to find useful reliable sources (be aware that if the subject is not English - for example a non-English politician, film, etc - you may need to use the native language terms for searching - and even then, you may not find much information online!)
 * If you get any local newspapers, see if there is any information in there which can be added to relevant articles. For example, my local newspaper mentioned William Stanley (as the centenary of his death was commemorated) - I went to add this to the article, and found there was no article! So, a bit of research later, I created the article - if you look at it, I found a lot of reliable sources - although the article still needs some tidying up!
 * Basically, just get stuck in - start with subjects you know a lot about - or can research. Good luck! -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 13:12, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Read the WP:Manual of Style and its subpages over and over until you have all the information thoroughly internalized. Then click on "Random article" under the WP logo on any page. In the article to which that takes you, you will probably find several typographical errors, violations of the style guidelines, formatting problems, and perhaps errors of fact. Fix them. While you're there, Google a few random phrases in the article to see whether there are any obvious copyright violations. If there are, remove or report them. Consider adding the article to your watchlist so that you'll know if someone comes along and blithely readds the copyvio. Then click on "Random article" again to move on to a new page. (This advice is only partially facetious; with enough people doing this, it might actually have a noticeable effect. One could also trawl through the categories listed at the top of Cleanup to find articles in need of attention.) Deor (talk) 14:28, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Most regular editors haven't read the whole Manual of Style, let alone its two dozen subpages. A question that frequently pops up on the Manual of Style discussion pages is whether the Manual is meant to be read as a whole or just consulted when needed. And I don't think that looking for Style violations in pages you'd never otherwise visit is a good practice. On the other hand, most editors are familiar with the main points of the Manual of Style and make corrections (after double-checking the relevant Manual section) when they encounter problems in the normal process of reading and editing articles. You should be familiar with the WP:Cheatsheet, however.
 * Another useful task, if you're statistically-inclined, is to check whether population figures, election returns, economic figures, athletic records, casualty reports, health statistics, and similar numbers are up to date and based on the soundest available source. Is any arithmetic (e.g., sums, percentages, lifespan, length in office, density of population) accurate? If only metric measures or only Imperial/U.S. customary weights and measures (miles, yards, pounds, gallons, etc.) are shown, provide the necessary conversions, since Wikipedia's readers often know only one system. (See Template:convert.) Double-check dates of birth, death, marriage, achievements, and assuming or leaving office. Does an information box match what's in the text? There's often a good reason they might appear to differ, but check whether one is based on more accurate information, and make any advisable adjustments or clarifications. If you're interested in the law, you could see if the laws or legal rulings have changed substantially after their last mention in a Wikipedia article. If you're interested in the arts, letters and entertainment, see if an artist's latest significant achievements and awards are shown and properly supported by neutral and reliable sources. If you're good at languages, you can see whether an article's versions in different languages are accurate (check the list of translations in the left-hand column of each article); if they need correction, haven't yet been created, or are poorly-phrased, see if you can improve what's there.  —— Shakescene (talk) 12:49, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

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William Harvey major edit....but where do i start discussion??
Hello everyone!

I've recently read two-three books that contain information regarding the life of William Harvey...thus i want to totally modify his page. I've read all the instructions, and i was told to start a discussion about it so as to avoid any problems with the initial creator of the page. Ok...no problem...but where is it?!?! where do i start!??! cheers

Rrocco (talk) 09:31, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, Rrocco. See the "discussion" tab at the top of the relevant article, or just type in a Wikilink, prefixed by "Talk:" in your search box at the left of the page, as in Talk:William Harvey. Read the previous discussions on the Talk (discussion) page to see if any of your points have been considered (something you don't know about now may have persuaded earlier editors to take a different position.) If at least one of the topical threads relates to one of your contemplated changes, add your comments about that topic to that thread. If the topic isn't one that's already on the Talk page, go to the top and hit the tab that says "new section" [What you see now on the New Contributors' Help Desk isn't technically a talk page, so it doesn't have that "new section" tab, although I think it should.] Fill in an appropriate section heading such as (for example) "Proposed recasting (Dec. 2009)", type in your proposed changes and reasoning, with a brief indication of sources as needed, sign your post as you have done here, and preview the result before hitting "Save". It's a good idea to click the little box that says "Watch this page" when saving or previewing; otherwise you can always click the tab at the top of the page that says "Watch". That way, you'll know when other editors have responded to your suggestions.
 * ¶ [Every editor tries to be objective and detached, but it's only human to react with a little emotion when you see your own very hard work altered, disparaged or deleted. That applies equally to you and to those whose work you might be challenging. Try to approach any disagreements constructively; listen to and consider any valid points that others make; never attack another editor, and never be reluctant to admit a misunderstanding or error of your own. Just explain why you have a different reading or a differing opinion, and see if some consensus can be achieved. It's remarkable how often sharply-divergent views here do in fact get resolved in a reasonably amicable way, and not just at Christmastime. Remember that it's not about you or others, but should always be about how best to convey the most accurate, reliable information to the widest range of potential readers. In other words always assume good faith. If you find it difficult at some point (as I have found at times) not to get upset, just walk away from this article for a couple of days or weeks and find another project, inside or outside Wikipedia. Things and arguments may look different  when you come back.]
 * ¶ If you want to start drafting rewritten sections before altering the William Harvey article itself, you can add a sub-page to your User Page by adding a slash and a sub-title as in User:Rrocco/Wm Harvey draft 1; turn the resulting red-link into a live sub-page by entering and saving a subheading and words. Such a sub-page is understood to be for designing tables, drafting paragraphs, archiving old threads from your own personal talk page (User talk:Rrocco), and similar Wikipedia-related purposes that don't belong in the actual public encyclopedia. —— Shakescene (talk) 10:26, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Nigel Cox (Painter)
Nigel Cox grew up in the market town of Dundalk, Co Louth, Ireland. He left school at 17 and went to Riversdale College of Technology to study to be a Marine Radio Officer. After graduating he joined the Transglobe Expedition, led by Sir Ranulph Fiennes. This three-year expedition successfully achieved the first circumnavigation of the globe on land, sea and ice via North and South poles along the Greenwich Meridian. While living in Hamburg, Germany in 1984 Cox took up painting as a hobby after he had seen a water colour he liked but couldn’t afford. He bought a set of watercolours and one year later had his first exhibition of small watercolours in Ireland.

A year later his sister bought him a set of oil paints for Christmas. His earliest paintings, under the name "John Moritz", were landscapes. This was soon to be followed by surrealist paintings with figures and strong perspective. Much of his influence came from studying paintings in books and visiting museums and galleries. He exhibited in galleries in Hamburg and Paris prior to moving to London in 1989 where he stopped painting for some years.

In 2003 Cox started painting again, under his birth name, Nigel Cox, and within a year was offered a Solo Exhibition at the GX Gallery, London. His work was figurative with a strong Photorealistic element to it. Cox's breakthrough year was 2007, when he submitted a portrait to the Royal Society of Portrait Painters’ Annual Exhibition and was accepted. His work has been accepted by the Royal Society of Portrait Painters’ for three consecutive Exhibitions. He was approached by several galleries who wanted to sell his work. His work sells in London, New York, Toronto, Amsterdam and Glasgow. In 2007, Cox’s work was also shown for the first time at the London Art Fair, Islington, selling all available works.

His paintings are strongly influenced by his journey on the Transglobe Expedition (1979-1982) and the vast open spaces he encountered. His love of these large, barren open spaces and lack of clutter is obvious but he also focuses strongly on detail. These opposing elements are merged confidently in his paintings providing the viewer with a glimpse beyond the clutter of everyday life. His figures are mostly contemporary people seen around London going about their everyday lives unaware of being observed. The figures are taken out of the crowd (and context) and placed in centre stage. The figures are alone but not lonely. They have an inner peace and strength and are at one with their surroundings. The paintings reflect solitude, tranquillity and confidence, giving every day scenes an unexpected and surreal feeling while keeping them within the real world.

Cox has his studio in London. He exhibits with [Quantum Contemporary Art, London], [GX Gallery, London,] [Tracey McNee Fine Art, Glasgow] and [Courcoux & Courcoux Gallery, Stockbridge]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nigeljcox (talk • contribs) 23:19, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


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 * Please also note that from your username, you appear to have a conflict of interest, so it is suggested that you do not try to create this article yourself. My advice would be to leave a message at Requests for Articles, giving the information, along with references from reliable, independent sources. Regards, -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 00:04, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

It's mine, mine
I bought a painting. I paid for it. It's mine, mine, mine. Can I take a photo of it, and give this photo to Wikipedia? The Artist sold it. As long as he is properly credited for the work, can't I hang it on Wikipedia for everyone to see, just as I would my wall?. --Neptunerover (talk) 22:47, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Although you may own the physical painting, the copyright will still belong to the original artist. Is the artist still alive? If not, when did he die?
 * While you can indeed put it on your wall and show it (or even in an art gallery), putting it on Wikipedia means that anyone can use the picture for anything - including commercial use. This would mean that the artist would not receive the income which (for example) he would get if an art gallery sold postcards of it. If you can give us further details, we may be able to give a more definitive answer, but my understanding of the copyright status is that you cannot donate the picture to Wikipedia for our use - only the original artist can do that. -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 23:59, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I just realized there is a better place for queries such as mine. WP:MCQ Incidentally, it's a Navajo sand painting, and I'd have to research to see if the artist is still alive. It's really cool though, so I didn't want to hog it for myself.--Neptunerover (talk) 04:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I sympathize. I bought a cartoon from an artist, thinking it would be mine, but when I received it, then enclosed material clearly indicated that the artist retained copyright. It is possible to transfer copyright, but it does not happen automatically when you buy the art. -- SPhilbrick  T  21:27, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Editing
I recently edited an arcticle and my change got reverted, claiming that the change I made did not comply with the wikipedia edidting guidlines. As far as I know, the fact given by me us true and it is not in anyway vandalistic. I would therefor like to ask why my edit was changed. (The page edited was "Bryn Celynnog". I said that they had a child attending there called Chris Hunt who was the direct decendent of Herod The Great. What a Lie!!!!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thephantomphantom (talk • contribs) 16:29, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You are referring to this edit to Bryn Celynnog Comprehensive School. From the page history, you can see your change was reverted by MorganaFiolett with the edit summary "Seems unlikely... can you cite a source? :P".  The Wikipedia policy at Verifiability says that all material must be attributed to a reliable, published source.  If you want to add that information, you must provide a reliable source.  --Mysdaao talk 16:44, 21 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Let me be the first to call a Plaxico here. Both your article edits so far have been nonconstructive, hence they have been reverted. – ukexpat (talk) 16:47, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

How Do I Get Help On My Page That I Created?
Hi,

I created a page that is linked here. It is about a list of products that focus on or are related to Webkinz. I would like to know how I can get help on my page and expand it. Could I put a link on some page that has links to other pages that need help, too? If possible, could you tell me how to do it? I can learn very quickly! - User:Baglady123Baglady123 (talk) 22:52, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * You can get feedback on your page at Requests for feedback. <font style="font-family: Vivaldi"> Intelligent  sium  22:55, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Table of contents
How do i add a table of contents, what's the code. Does Wikipedia do this automatically, or do i have to insert the code?

thanks!:)MAS100 (talk) 22:54, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * See Help:Section. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:15, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Are we allowed to post articles with song lyrics?
Sometimes I've gone searching the internet for song lyrics and have not been able to find them. For example, The Manuelo Tarantella by Louis Prima. After listening to the song a few times I wrote down all the lyrics. It's not a very popular song, excpet for maybe among Italian-Americans, which I am. Can I make an article containing the song lyrics so that they are findable on the internet, or would that be a copy right violation of some sort? Thanks.

Tropicalisle23 (talk) 23:26, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It would be a copyright violation. Someguy1221 (talk) 23:33, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


 * See Lyrics and poetry. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Media Institute decries unethical journalism in Tanzania

 * Please do not copy and paste materials to this page. Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted materials, either here or on any other page without appropriate licensing. If you would like to write an article, please review this guide. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  15:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

pl show me d surnames of our cast kapu kattumuri,yagam,juthada
pl we want know about our cast and surnames of kapu community katumuri,yagam,juthada pl help us
 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. <font style="font-family: Vivaldi"> Intelligent  sium  16:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

New user
I have a few articles which I would like to run through copyscape to ensure that they are legimate, before I submit them to my employer. Can you please assist me as this is the first time I am using copyscape, and frankly have no clue what to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charmaineh (talk • contribs) 18:39, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. --Mysdaao talk 18:48, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, Copyscape isn't part of Wikipedia! From what I can see, you just put the web address on Copyscape's main page, and it will show you a list of websites that copy it (or parts of it which are copied). Sorry, we can't help beyond this - you'll need to look for information on that website. Alternatively, you could ask your question at Wikipedia's Research Desk, where they can answer questions about almost anything in the universe, apart from how to use Wikipedia - which is what this Help Desk is for! -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 18:52, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

How come I can't edit semi-protected pages and move articles?
How come I can't edit semi-protected pages and move articles? I was reading some information somewhere else on the site saying that in order for a user to edit semi-protected pages, their account had to be more than four days old, or the user had to have more than ten edits. My account is more than four days old, and I have more than ten edits. I even created my own article. Also, I can't move any pages; I've tried and some error called an "automated error" appeared and informed me that it stops new editors from moving pages because of frequent vandalism. What's up with that? How can I fix these issues?

The Universe Is Cool (talk) 19:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)The Universe Is Cool


 * The requirements are at User access levels. You should indeed have become autoconfirmed recently unless you are editing through a Tor network. Do you see a "move" tab at top of pages and an "edit this page" tab at a semi-protected page like Poop deck? What is the full text of the error message? I don't think it should contain "automated error". PrimeHunter (talk) 23:13, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I apologize. It said "automated filter", not "automated error"; my apologies.

To answer your questions, yes, I saw both a "move" tab and an "edit this page" tab at the top of the semi-protected article titled "Poop deck".

Here is the full text of the error message:

"Welcome to Wikipedia! Sorry, your move request could not be completed at this time. Your edit has triggered an automated filter that stops new editors from making certain kinds of page moves which are frequently used for vandalism. We apologize if your move was well intended. To complete this move please ask for assistance at the new contributor's help page and a more experienced editor will perform it for you. You may also report this error."

Could an experienced editor move a few pages for me? If so, I want the page Sioux Trail elementary school moved to "Sioux Trail Elementary School". I also want the page Sky Oaks elementary school moved to "Sky Oaks Elementary School". Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.

The Universe Is Cool (talk) 00:35, 25 December 2009 (UTC)The Universe Is Cool
 * You tripped Filter 10, which prevents moves that may violate the Manual of Style. If "Elementary School" is part of the proper name, you should be able to bypass the filter by clicking submit a second time, after you receive the warning. <font style="font-family: Vivaldi"> Intelligent  sium  01:35, 25 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I have performed the two moves. Your attempted moves happened to match the conditions of Filter 10 which is designed to detect a certain type of page move vandalism. The main reason for tripping the filter was your long but innocent move reason I moved this page to capitalize the "e" in the word "elementary" and the "s" in the word "school". I used the shorter move reason Correct capitalization of proper name (but my old account wouldn't have tripped the filter anyway). What makes you say you cannot edit semi-protected pages? That is unrelated to Filter 10. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Apparently I can edit semi-protected pages now. A while ago, I tried to edit a semi-protected page. I was unable to do so. I thought that I still couldn't edit a semi-protected page, but I guess that's not true anymore. Sorry about that.

Thank you for helping me. I appreciate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Universe Is Cool (talk • contribs) 03:58, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.30.45.41 (talk) 13:58, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
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 * What do you need help with? --Mysdaao talk 14:08, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Warren J. "Puggy" Moitey
Elections in Louisiana, particularly for Governor, can be as interesting as LSU football. Remember the election in which one of the candidates came up with the phrase "Elect the Lizard, not the Wizard" (Edwards versus Duke). More recently, the campaign between Jindal and Blanco is another example. I was a Blanco fan, not because I disliked Jindal. Kathleen's daughter was my daughter's brides maid and I had worked for Kathleen's husband back in the late 60's as a dorm proctor in Voorhies Dorm (The Animal Farm) on the USL campus. The interesting thing was that it is alleged that some Pakistanis in north Louisiana formed a group to support Kathleen's campaign. (So much for the melting pot concept).

Going back a bit:

I was recently in the New Iberia, Louisiana, District Court House for a trial, when the conversation turned to old time political characters from the area. Of course, no conversation on the subject would be complete without mention of Warren J. "Puggy" Moitey. I remember the first time that I saw him on television. My father was something of an inventor and liked working with others of the same ideals. He found a fellow by the name of Hoyt who had invented a laminated prefabrication process that had a very high R factor. The plant was located in Lafayette, Louisiana, a place that would later become central to my life. Will as things would have it the plant was located south of the Lafayette Airport near the old Holiday Inn. My father would leave me at the Inn and I would watch television while he had his meetings. I believe it was channel 3, but could be mistaken. Anyway the main show was a guy named Warren J. "Puggy" Moitey. This was around 1960. He was running for one political office or another, but at the he seemed to be running for Governor. It was his practice to rail against the other candidates, much as a demogauge might do. He was highly animated and very verbous. As I learned later, it seemed that one of the candidates that was more likely to have a chance of winning, would hire Puggy to do a little mud slinging at the other candidates. You could always tell, so I am told, who hired him, because he would not sling any mud at the person who hired him. I was told, again, that in that year it was one of the Longs, a long time political family, that had hired him that time around.

Being about 10 years old at the time, I was mesmerized by his style. He was, at times, much like Huey P. Long in appearance, if not substance.

I later attended USL (University of Southwestern Louisiana, now University of Louisiana - Lafayette) around the time the Puggy ran for governor in the first campaign in which there was a run off. This was, of course, the campaign which lead to the first term of a man later referred to at the teflon governor, Edwin W. Edwards (another story for a later time). Puggy attacted Edwards for being gay. Edwards was a very dapper looking fellow, but as far as I now he was not gay. He was, however, the consumate politician. In an act of pure showmanship, at a political rally, he gave Puggy a light kiss on the cheek (I saw this happen).

"Many point to Edwin Edwards' first race for governor in 1971, which included a minor candidate named Warren J. "Puggy" Moity, who ran an infamous Sunday morning television show devoted to political mudslinging. He harped on Edwards and called him gay. Edwards later neutralized the accusations by strolling up to Moity at a political forum and kissing him on the cheek." New Orleans Times Picayune

The interesting thing about Puggy was that while he seemed to rant and rave, there was always some quality of truth to everything he said. Whether he was that knowledgeable about other political candidates or whether he was being feed information, is up to conjecture.

In the first Democratic Party Primary, November 6, 1971, Puggy got 8965 or .75% of the vote. The candidate who is supposed to have been his backer, Speedy O. Long, got 61, 359 or 5.23% of the votes. Edwin Edwards beat out J. Bennett Johnston for the election. Republicans were not yet very popular in Louisiana so Edwards later beat David Treen with 641,146 or 57.2 percent of the vote in the General election on February 1, 1972.

With the possibility of a libel suit for criticizing candidates from other races in which he was not a candidate, he decided to qualify for multiple positions during the same election. This gave him an opportunity to attack more than one opponent on his program. He often stated that he operated a private investigation firm and thus his criticism of opponents was “fact” and not “dirt.” (Floyd Knott, April 28 2009, Les Vieux Temps)

Puggy was a colorful person, who had charm, if not substance to any election in which he participated and he participated in many elections. It is said that he even ran for an election or two after he found out that he could not be sued for liable if he said a few things that might not be true, but said them while on the campaign trail.

Puggy passed away on January 9, 1997. With his passing there went a piece of Louisiana color and history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Larry A Gould (talk • contribs) 06:14, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


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Zibibi   (pronounced...Zee-Bee-Bee)
Zibibi...literary means "Woman who is King!" In the King James version of the Holy Bible she is known as the Queen of Sheba in the Old Testament (1st Kings 10th Chapter) and the Queen of the South in the New Testament (Matthew 12:42 and Luke 11:31). It was against the law and individuals could be put to death for calling a Woman a King. She was from a Royal Line of Women Rulers in Yemem which is now called Ethiopia which is located in Africa. She was second only to King Solomon in wisdom and knowledge. The Jews called her "Candace", in the Islamic tradition she was known as "Bilquis", the Ethiopians called her "Makeda" and to the Greeks she was known as "Minerva". The people in her country designed this acronym from their native language and thereby concealing the true meaning of the name "Zibibi" from the remaining world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.11.165.32 (talk) 13:58, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You are describing the Queen of Sheba. If you are looking information, can you find it in the article I linked to.  If you want to add to or edit the page, you can by pressing "edit this page" on the top.  Just make sure any information you add is verifiable by providing a reliable source.  --Mysdaao talk 19:00, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Help
I am a new Wikipedia user and contributor. Evidently, I have already upset someone as I have received several messages, each more harsh than the previous one, from Corin.

In good faith, I contributed to the list of faculty at The Juilliard School - adding the names "Alfredo Corvino, Andra Corvino, Genia Melikova, Martha Hill and Hector Zaraspe". This seemed to work properly although I was unclear how I was to verify this information. I then started creating individual pages for these people. I first created a page for Genia Melikova and included information from The Juilliard Journal Online and the N.Y. Times. I thought I had thoroughly documented this material by including the web address, full credit to the source and author and dates. This is what I would have done if I had used this material in a document. This seemed to work fine so I then started to do the same for Alfredo Corvino. Once again, I completely documented the source of the material. This however did not work and I received not one... not two... but three messages accusing me of vandalizing Wikipedia!

First of all, it was not my intent to vandalize anything or violate copyright laws... Second, I did not find the design of the Wikipedia site to be very clear, intuitive or user-friendly - especially for a new/novice contributor...(To be honest, I could not figure out how I was suppose to repsond to Corin who sent the "warning" messages to me.) Third, is there a way to cross-reference other legitimate sites which contain information relative to the topic... Would it not be reasonable to link a person with their obituary in the N.Y. Times, for example? I was able to "Google" these individuals and find other references so why would Wikipedia block this sharing of information? Isn't it better to have precise information in one location rather than numerous "versions" of the same material spread throughout the internet?

I am sorry that I have offended the great gods of Wikipedia...

JGS Seamanjg (talk) 14:26, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * JGS, I am not an administrator, so I cannot see the deleted pages, but those warnings are usually given when a user copies and pastes copyrighted material into a Wikipedia article, which is not allowed. The policy at Copyrights is that Wikipedia cannot use materials that infringe the copyrights of others.  According to the warning, you used copied content from http://www.juilliard.edu/update/journal/1113journal_substory_0305.asp.  This is not allowed, even if you provide a link as your source.  What you can do is take the information from references and write it in your own words.  Another policy is Verifiability, so when you do that, you should provide a reference to the source of the information with a link.  I see that you posted a message on SGGH's talk page, so I don't have to tell you how to find users who send you messages and respond to them.  --Mysdaao talk 15:20, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

exothermic powder
we want composition of exothermic powder. how we make exothermic powder? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anilbatala (talk • contribs) 16:46, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. --Mysdaao talk 17:28, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

how do I add an entry to wikipedia
How do I add the historic Alexander Inn/Guest House in Oak Ridge to Wikipedia

K Groover Oak Ridge Revitalization Effort —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katiegro (talk • contribs) 17:54, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Your first article. You might also look at How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is available to walk you through creating an article. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  18:03, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

adding a paragraph with reference notes to the end of an existing article with ref. notes
I would like to add a small paragraph with reference notes to the end of an article that has reference notes. The article has several pages and the last paragraph ends with note 11. I am adding about 6 refenerce notes in my paragraph. When I try to edit the section and preview- I get the reference 11 changed to 1 and my references start at 2 and and end with 7. I also get an error message (note end of references). How do I fix this? Nothing is saved yet. --Logictj (talk) 15:31, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If you are editing only the section by pressing [edit] next to that section's heading, then the preview will only show content from that section. In this situation, the preview only displays references found in that section, numbering the first reference in the section as 1.  The error message may also be caused by only previewing one section.  Try editing the entire page, making your changes, and showing the preview to see what the entire page will look like.  If you are still seeing a problem, write the exact error message here so we can assist you further.  --Mysdaao talk 15:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou. I tried the edit button at the top of the page. This works well. The references are now in prper order. However, I get this error message when I do preview: Cite error: Closing missing for around your reference, so it will look like. Please read Referencing for beginners for a more detailed explanation of how to insert references. --Mysdaao talk 16:23, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

inux operating system download
i want to linux but my system all ready run xp-operating —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandya bipin (talk • contribs) 17:05, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.  TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:06, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Paper Christmas stars
I am an American, living in Puerta Vallarta Meico and watch your German program here on cable TV. I saw a program, on EuroMax about how I can buy the paper Christmas stars unassembled. I need a website address so I can order some and pay via credit card. Can you please send me the information as th where I can order these. Mega Ward- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mega Ward (talk • contribs) 19:28, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Mysdaao talk 19:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Help with contributions related to Hearst Ontario
helpme

I have added info to the Hearst Ontario page, in particular notable people and they have been deleted.

I'm not sure the reason but the people I listed are known to me personally and their accomplishments are verifiable.

I also created a page called Clayton's Kids which is a book about the pioneer families of Hearst in which some of these notable people are documented. I was then going to cite it as a reference.

The book is recorded in the National Library, as well as in libraries in Ottawa, Lomdon, Wawa, Hearst and Cochrane. It is a bone fide reference book that was compiled from stories writen by the families of these pioneers

I received a note that this page will be deleted and I would like to know how to save it.

Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bieser (talk • contribs) 01:56, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * These two issues are about notability. With regard to the list of notable people, to be eligible for inclusion in the article, they need to meet Wikipedia's Guidelines on the notability of people. Without seeing the people, I cannot comment on their notability - but I will comment on the "verifiable" bit: if you have independent, reliable sources of information that show their notability, then if you re-add these people to the article, include those references. I'm sorry, but being known personally to you does not make them notable - or even verified!
 * With regard to the Clayton's Kids book, I'm assuming that you are referring to Clayton's Kids: Pioneer Families of Hearst Public School By Terry West, Frank Pellow, Ernest Bies? Google books shows the publisher details as Terry West, 2009. As a general rule, self-published books are not counted as being totally reliable sources. I couldn't find anywhere where I could buy it. Looking at WorldCat, I came across two copies in American libraries (Harvard University and Wisconsin Historical Society), no copies in UK libraries, one copy in a Canadian library (University of Toronto). The fact that the book (actually, a CD according to WorldCat) does not appear to be in many locations (3 locations worldwide in libraries) also means that it would probably not be counted as a verifiable source. (Incidently, this would alos mean that it would not be suitable as a source of information for the notable people mentioned above).
 * I'm sorry, but with the information provided, I can't see how either the list of people or the book itself would meet the criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia (for the book, see Wikipedia's Guidelines for the Notability of Books). -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 08:49, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * And a compilation of family stories is about as far from a reliable source as you're going to get. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  21:16, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Mahatma Phule ASC College
Mahatma Phule ASC College is a college comes under Rayat Shikshan SansthaOfficial Site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaidyaharshad (talk • contribs) 10:38, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you have a question? --ColinFine (talk) 17:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think s/he is asking for help saving their article on ASC college [from speedy deletion]. In which case, the concern is that it is a very short article with little context. You should expand it to at least 2-3 sentences, one of which must establish its notability.

However, that article was created/tagged in October and last edited in November, so I'm not entirely sure. Liqudluck ✽ talk 19:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

superfluous article drafts
Hi,

I'm a complete newbie to writing for wikipedia so pleas forgive in advance. Basically I have three saved drafts of an article which can be deleted in favour of a final version on Patrick Byrne, (1794 - 1863), an Irish harp player. As I only signed up for an account yesterday I understand that the completed article would only be available after four days. I'm concerned that the three saved drafts might also appear, clogging up the encyclopedia. So my question is do I need to do anything and if so what to delete the three drafts. Please bear in mind that I'm struggling with wiki language.

Can you get back to me via my talk page when ever you get the chance?

Many thanks,

Mccluskey f (talk) 14:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied at User talk:Mccluskey f. I am copying the response here so others can see it:
 * You currently have two draft pages, User:Mccluskey f/Patrick Byrne (1794 - 1863) Irish musician and User:Mccluskey f/new article name here. They will not "clog up" the encyclopedia if they remain.  Wikipedia has millions of pages, so there is no harm in keeping them.  They are in your userspace now, which means they are not articles yet.  If you wish to delete them, add  to the top of each page to request its deletion, and they will be deleted by an administrator.  Please let me know if there are are more questions.  Thanks!  --Mysdaao talk 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

starting a new article
if there is a common article that wikipedia does not cover, how do you start that topic if you don't know EVERYTHING about it, for example, if something like the ps3 (playstation 3) is not covered and you want to create an article, can you just send in one fact and then the article will build????? please write back

-steelersfan4lyfe —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steelersfan4lyfe (talk • contribs) 16:24, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes and no! Yes, you can create an article which is just an introduction to the subject with no more than a few facts.  Such articles are called stubs.  But even a stub requires that the article demonstrate notability of its subject, and should have some reliable sources as references.  So some work is required.  Also note that some subjects are not appropriate for an article because they are better served as a section of a larger article.  A section about PlayStation 3 might be found within an article called PlayStation, but in this case, an article called PlayStation 3 does exist. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 16:32, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * PLease read your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 18:01, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Also note that even a stub article clearly marked as a stub will be deleted if nobody can figure out what the subject matter is. Begin with the simplest things, i.e. "Playstation XV is an electronic gaming system released in January 2021 by IBMacintosh for their iGame virtual reality equipment." -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  21:20, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

presumed spam left here
[OLBA (On Line British Auction)] is a UK based Online International auction and market place, where people and businesses buy and sell a broad variety of goods and services worldwide.

[OLBA (On Line British auction)] facilities enables registered buyers to buy or bid on a wide selection of merchandise, from antiques, books, computer software and hardware, consumer electronics, household appliances, toys, sports equipment, photography and electronics, amongst many others.

[OLBA (Online British Auction)] is committed to ensuring that its internet auction site is a secure, reliable and easy place to trade on the Internet. To ensure this, any individuals and merchants selling an item through us must first register and be verified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oceancat0 (talk • contribs) 22:23, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * What is this, advertisement? I fixed part of it anyway. --76.191.157.25 (talk) 22:31, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

As with any such potential scam, prior to giving them any sort of information, I would first suggest verifying that they are who they say they are, and that they intend to do nothing tricky with any information they wish to be provided. --Neptunerover (talk) 22:40, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It looks as if you are suggesting a page about this organisation. This is not the right place for it (see WP:YFA). But please be aware that all organisations must satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines, and that advertising is never acceptable in a Wikipedia article. --ColinFine (talk) 22:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


 * What about advertising on a help page(?), which this completely seems like! (I felt the warning above was necessary for anyone who may fall for this, so I added it) --Neptunerover (talk) 22:51, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Dementia input
Hi I'm really not sure I've come to the right place but I would like to contribute to the pages on Dementia,I have a Diploma and a BSc degree on the subject and would like to share/contribute my knowledge and would love to have some input!! Can you tell me how I do this Mamabear1957 (talk) 11:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

many thanks


 * You could either discuss it on the article's talk page or on WikiProject Medicine's talk page or WikiProject Psychology's talk page -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 12:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Your expertise is very welcome, but please be aware that original research is not accepted in Wikipedia. Everything you add must be referenced. --ColinFine (talk) 12:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Lipa Buko Juice
Lipa Fresh Buko (Coconut) Juice started out in 1995 when fresh coconut juice were only served in the shell or in white plastic cups. Gilbert Tan and Kathleen Tan saw the need for a better packaging of Fresh Buko Juice that would be convenient, sanitary and tightly sealed. Primary consideration in the whole process is that it must not compromise the natural freshness, flavor and quality of buko juice.

Now Lipa Fresh Buko Juice is considered a truly healthy beverage that Filipinos can take pride in, not only in the Philippines but also in countries like Canada and Australia. In 2005, Lipa Fresh Buko Juice was awarded the Product Processor Innovator Award by the Philipppine Coconut Authority. [[Media:www.lipabuko.com ]]


 * Have you got a question? It looks as if you are trying to start an article, but this is not the right place for it. Please read your first article. In any case advertising is not welcome on Wikipedia, either in an article or here. --ColinFine (talk) 17:43, 31 December 2009 (UTC)