Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/Archive/2009/June

Trouble having article flagged for spam content
I am wanting to write an article on a specific invention called the tick key. The device is US Patent Pending and endorsed by the American Canine Association. I wanted to give factual informtaion about what the product is, what is does and where it was invented. I wasn't trying to "plug" the product but I guess perhaps the way I wrote it was all wrong. I read the information about the guidelines on how to make an article and I thought I had done real well. But perhaps I was wrong. Can anyone help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tickkey (talk • contribs) 20:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * First of all you should change your user name as the current one will almost certainly be viewed as a promotional user name and blocked; second, read WP:YFA, WP:N, WP:RS and WP:SPAM. In fact the best thing to do is create the article in a subpage first before attempting to move it to the mainspace. – ukexpat (talk) 20:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You may also want to talk to the administrator who deleted the page, User:Tnxman307, for more specific concerns about why the article was not suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia, and how you should improve it. You should also go to WP:UNC to see the process of how to change your username to something more suitable. Fingers OnRoids  21:03, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In view of the few edits that the user has made, creating a new account may be preferable, certainly simpler. – ukexpat (talk) 21:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Spoiler-type hiding
On some pages, I see the (show/hide) buttons which show or hide information to save space on the page. I was wondering if you could do that manually without using those type things (userboxes?). Thanks in advance! Krazywrath~ (talk) 04:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the only way I know how to hide sections is either by using templates (the brackets to which you referred) or tags . You can see more at Help:Collapsing and .  TN X Man  11:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Biography References
I have access to a considerable amount of information which would allow me to considerably update the entry on Charles Leach. The information is all contained in a biography of him. Do I need to quote the original source reference or just the book? Please notify me on my talk page. Thanks. Epimandios (talk) 09:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've responded on the user's talk page, as requested. Deor (talk) 12:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Join Date
Hello, how can I find out when I joined Wikipedia? —dwieeb (talk) 14:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Simply follow this link. TN X Man  14:39, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. —dwieeb (talk) 14:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Help
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohiopsychology (talk • contribs)
 * With what did you require assistance? TN X Man  15:54, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Publish first Article
So I've created my first article a week ago, but it is not published on the website. How do I get it published so I can begin to edit it? DENISINCA Denisinca (talk) 12:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Because it is still on your user-subpage, located here. Before you move it into mainspace, have a look here and follow the instructions. Your article would probably not survive very long in the harsh environment that is Wikipedia. Lectonar (talk) 12:22, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Specifically, you should make sure that the person passes the requirements at WP:BIO, and that you remember to put reliable sources in the article to show where you got the information from. Fingers OnRoids  15:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Newtype's Poll Of Best Anime Characters
I was reading an article on Toshiro Hitsugaya(a character from the BLEACH anime media),it said that "In Japanese Newtype magazine character polls,he was voted the 7th most popular character of all-time in any anime.".My question is:Where can I find the entire poll list of most popular anime characters?I've tried clicking on the Newtype article,but all it shows me is the information on the contents of the magazine.I would've thought it had sister articles,but there isn't any.I need some help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.96.226.15 (talk) 18:04, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't think there'd be a Wikipedia article on the poll; it wouldn't really fit the inclusion criteria. A quick google search pulls up this, however, I'm not sure if that is what you're looking for.You may want to try the Reference desk/Entertainment, they specialize in entertainment related knowledge questions. Fingers OnRoids  19:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

What category should I use for a disambiguation page?
Rutigliano (disambiguation) had a uncategorized tag put on it. What category should a disambiguation page have?

Alexthepuffin (talk) 16:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Category:Disambiguation Pages Fribbler (talk) 16:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Or for a more specific one, since there are two people on the page, you could put Category:Human name disambiguation pages. Fingers OnRoids  16:34, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


 * See Manual of Style (disambiguation pages). You should add a template which will automatically add a category. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:36, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've slapped a general on the page, however, there are more templates available for disambig pages that include categories as part of their transclusion.  TN X Man  16:37, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Editing a page
I want to add a name to a list of people on a specific Wikipedia page. Without question, this person's name belongs there. I would like to make this addition and provide a link to another website which contains a significant amount of biographical information which supports my position. I am a brand new contributor, and this will be my first entry. What is the best way to accomplish this? Borodinmusic (talk) 02:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * First we need some additional details: which Wikipedia page and which external pages are you referring to? – ukexpat (talk) 02:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Before you add the name to the list, please make sure the person has an article here first. Before you do that, please read our info on what makes a person notable (and thus qualified for an article), how to write your first article, and how to support your article with reliable sources. TN X Man  03:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In response to your message on my talk page: I am assuming that the list article that you refer to is List of Puerto Ricans and that you want to add Jimmy Sabater Sr. to the "Composers, musicians and singers" section? If so click on the list article link to take you to the article. Then scroll down to the "Composers, musicians and singers" section and click the  link to the right of the section heading - that will put the page into edit mode. Scroll down again to the "S" section and in the correct alphabetical location add the following Sabater Sr., Jimmy . Add an edit summary and click the preview button to make sure it looks OK, then click the save button. Assuming that all works as it should you will have made the edit. – ukexpat (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions. I went to the page, but when I tried to begin the edit, I was informed that the page is semi-protected and was advised to enter my request on the talk page for that page, and that an established user might make the edit for me. So, I did just that. Do you think that will work?Borodinmusic (talk) 04:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It did - User:Marine 69-71 has added him to the list. – ukexpat (talk) 20:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Help! My photo re-sized itself!
After some very helpful advice above, I found a copyright-acceptable photo on Flickr, uploaded it via Commons, and successully put it on a Wikipedia page. But a couple of hours later, the photo has increased in size and is no longer useable. Nobody tampered with the page, but the File History of the image itself indicates that it reverted to the original (much too big) size that was in FlickR. Here is the image file history:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Space_Cowboy_Christchurch.jpg#file

How do I sort this out so the size is OK?

Peteinterpol (talk) 17:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem was not the image, rather the code you were using on the page, instead of just writing down the file name between two brackets, you should also include a size, and some other stuff, like this: [[Image:example|thumb|left/right|size(normally about 200)px]] does this make sense? If not you can see here where I have re added the image for you, if it still doesn't make sense just ask me to clarify, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 17:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That is so helpful! Thank you for fixing it and for the advice.


 * Peteinterpol (talk) 17:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem SpitfireTally-ho! 17:41, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Comercial bias
on the article, metallography, there is a significant commercial presence. how do we make it neutral or eliminate the commercial aspects on the page, i.e. links and images?

CSD MET (talk) 22:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello, which parts of the article are you referring to? Could you give me a specific place in the article? Fingers  OnRoids  22:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I presume you mean Metallography. I see what you mean about the images; looking into it, they were supplied (under a free license) by the company who makes the products depicted -- the way to improve this would be to find (or better, take) pictures of a competitor's equipment, and upload them.  As for the links, while it looks from the history that there have been quite a bit of problems in that area, the current version just has one link to a page at Cambridge University, which should be fine.  The text on the page does need a heavy bit of editing for clarity and ease of reading. Thanks for bringing it up! 207.233.32.18 (talk) (really, User:JesseW/not logged in) 02:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Freelolita101 Talking
Was Lolita the orca's mom Ocean Sun?Please notify me on my talk page.thank you. ~Freelolita101 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freelolita101 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You might find what you are looking for in the article about Lolita (orca). If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps.  TN X Man  14:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (Note, I have also copied this to the user's talk page). TN X Man  14:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the editor knows where the article is. She is asking if she is allowed to write this information in the article.  The answer is yes, provided that you can provide a reference to go with it.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  17:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

how do I add picture to my bio?
I wanted to add a picture to my bio, but am not allowed to do so. Only an administrator, or other title, can do this. How do I contact them and get the picture added?

This is all so complicated -- I can't figure out how to use the talk page or request information there. Is there an email address that someone can respond to?

15:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dariv (talk • contribs)
 * The main issue with bio images on Wikipedia is that they must either have a free license or be released for use by the copyright holder. If you have a freely licensed image, then post the URL here and I will take care of the upload. If there is a photo online which is not under a free license but which you own the copyright for, and you are willing to release it for use on Wikipedia, then you can use the OTRS system to file a request. haz (talk) 15:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I had some really good advice on this above under the heading: "Obtaining an image for an article that is OK from a copyright point of view."


 * Peteinterpol (talk) 16:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The issue was probably that you were not auto-confirmed, new users are not allowed to upload pictures. I checked, and you have now made the requisite number of edits for "autoconfirm" to kick in.  Try again and it should work this time.  Come back here if you are still having problems.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  16:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Mauser HSc
I revised (edited) the text on the subject Mauser HSc. After completing the edit and previewing the edit, I hit the post option...but my text does not appear at the top of the page. Rather it appears much further down. Would you kindly help me... My login ID: hochadler  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hochadler (talk • contribs) 18:13, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The edit that went to the bottom of the page was reverted by another editor. You appear to have made another substantial edit after that.  Do you still have a problem now?  Also, I advise breaking the article up with sub-headings, it is both quite difficult to read and difficult to work out what has been edited without them.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  19:22, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Adding photos
Hi, I've had a look round here and there doesn't seem to be much direct information about adding photos (surely a most important subject?) to articles. I've done a little bit of editing and I'm considering a new article. It's a biography of a sportswoman. She has no page so far. I want to use an image of her on the page. Is there something I can send her asking her to 'asign copyright to wikipedia' (if that's the right term) or allow wikipedia to use it? I've searched wikipedia for this (mentioned earlier in help) "Obtaining an image for an article that is OK from a copyright point of view" which looks as though it might be useful but can I find it?, no!

Also what is the situation with photos that I have taken? Johnchapple (talk) 05:13, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Images are best uploaded to wikimedia commons, an option you will see when you click on "Upload File" in the toolbox to the left side of this page. You can either release them into public domain or use attribution three, which grants rights to use your photos for any purpose, as long as you are credited.


 * Using an image that someone else has taken requires permission of the copyright holder, not necessarily the subject of the photo. Images can be uploaded and the permission emailed to wikimedia commons. Dan D. Ric (talk) 05:55, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Adidas
Dear sir or Madam,

I want to know some information abou brand name of Adidas:

1 History of Adidas brand name ? 2 Adidas License and Adidas Franchise? 3 Adidas logo  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kong vanda (talk • contribs) 06:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

'''This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk'''. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.  Sp in ni ng  Spark  08:59, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * But is Adidas what you are looking for?  Sp in ni ng  Spark  09:02, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

ResidentEvilMaster12
is a person —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacbo (talk • contribs) 07:07, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This is a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. Do you have a question? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:00, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Charles Leach


I have used information from a biography to make a major upgrade of the entry on Charles Leach. As recommended I have not quoted the original sources, only the book. Could someone from the Biography team have a look at the draft on my user page to help bring it up to a publishable level. I also have a picture available. Thanks. Epimandios (talk) 10:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Nice article, imho there is no reason not to move it to mainspace now, it's in a good condition, way better than the average new article. This is not exactly the best desk for these kinds of requests, WP:EAR is better, or there is WikiProject Biography.  The main thing I can spot that is missing is you need a bio infobox, Template:Infobox Officeholder seems to be the most appropriate one, and of course, an image if you can find one.  When you move it to mainspace, be sure to nominate it for Did you know.  It is a sure thing that they will put this one on the front page, but it has to be nominated within 5 days of the move to mainspace as they only feature brand new articles.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  12:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Just noticed you said you have a picture. You are currently one edit short of being autoconfirmed.  If you make a reply to this post you should find that magically you suddenly have the ability to upload files.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  12:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Rather than just listing the biography in the "References" section, you should include an inline citation (see WP:CITE) after each bit of information derived from the biography, including the number of the page on which the information can be found. You can look at the citations already in the article to see, roughly, how to do this. Good work, though. Deor (talk) 13:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Techical point: as the article already exists in mainspace, the user page version cannot be moved to Charles Leach, the new text will have to be merged in. – ukexpat (talk) 14:46, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for all the feedback. I'll do a bit more on it. Epimandios (talk) 14:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Sherief El-Salamani
World most amazing Architect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.131.125.214 (talk) 12:37, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Sherief El-Salamani" has 4 Google hits so I doubt it if that is the normal spelling. This is a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. Do you have a question?PrimeHunter (talk) 12:49, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh I think he knows how to spell his own name. The only result that is not Facebook is a RIBA prospectus that has a short quote from him merely as "graduate", which implies that he has not actually built anything yet.  So no, you are not the World's most amazing architect.  Go away and build something notable then someone may think about writing your article.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  14:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Deleting from talk page
I have put something on a talk page, which is definitly outdated now. Can I delete or at least archive it? |FHessel (talk) 16:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It depends. Where is it? If it's Template talk:2009 swine flu outbreak table then I suggest to just wait until it's automatically archived by ClueBot III in a few days. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, exactly on this page. What other possibilities exist? (In the context of this outbreak 1 week is pretty long and reading outdated comments again and again is pretty annoying) —Preceding unsigned comment added by FHessel (talk • contribs) 17:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC)  |FHessel (talk) 17:16, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

New messages always go to the bottom, so you don't have to re-read it at all, just use the content box at the top to navigate, one week is a good time, we don't want the bot to accidentally archive a ongoing discussion, do we ;), all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 17:20, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Dead links in references list
I've looked around in the help sections and such and can't seem to find what to do with a couple of the dead links I've found in a some articles' references list. Just wanted to know, is there some other option other than deleting both the link and the statements pertaining to it or an exhaustive search for replacement link(s)? FinalDeity (talk)


 * At the very least add the dead link template to the relevant ref link. If it's not a BLP article, that should do it if you cannot find a live link; if it is a BLP and the material referenced by the link would be a BLP violation without the reference, it should be deleted, per the BLP policy. – ukexpat (talk) 16:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Also note that many references are to books and journals but include a link to an online copy. If the link goes dead the reference is still valid, even though it is offline, so all that needs doing is unlinking it but otherwise leave the reference in place.  In those cases it is best to retain the original url in hidden comment tags , it is often possible to find a new url based on knowledge of the dead one, so that is handy for anyone who comes along trying to do that.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  20:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Copyrighted Pictures
I'm having trouble adding pictures to my new page because there are none in the wikipedia commons about the subject. So, can you upload pictures that are copyrighted if you've been given permission to use them by the artist/organization that took the pictures? If so, how would I go about doing this? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.241.157.76 (talk) 18:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi there: first of all, it's important to make sure the photographer gives the right permission: not just for their pictures to appear in Wikipedia, but to release them under a free content license (e.g. the GFDL, though some others can also be acceptable). Evidence of the permission then has to be submitted through the OTRS ticket system. Requesting copyright permission details the procedure for going about this. The image's creator will have to email an appropriate statement of permission (examples are given on the linked page) to permissions-en@wikipedia.org. Full details are given at Image use policy. Does that answer your question? Gonzonoir (talk) 19:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think this is all explained at WP:IOWN. – ukexpat (talk) 20:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

caffeine
I have read all that I can find on your caffeine pages but there is one point that I could not find. I am one of the unfortunate people on whom caffeine has the opposite to normal effect. I am o.k. with a few cups a day but anything at all over this and I just want to sleep. Can you comment on this at all?Quitie (talk) 07:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Since this page is intended to help new contributors understand Wikipedia's policies and procedures, we're not best placed to help you - especially since Wikipedia is also unable to give medical advice. You might want to try asking a doctor about your issue, or consulting a medical dictionary if you're just interested to learn more about the condition. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

How does Notability work?
I am attempting to correctly edit a new page. I am new to the site. I have inserted information and references, but I am still receiving errors from the administrators. I have been asked to offer notability for my page. I believe I did that, apparently I am doing something wrong.

Please help! Vana77Vana77 (talk) 16:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * In order for a person to have an article, the article has to demonstrate why the person is notable. This means that the person must have significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Do you have any sources that might help with this (things like interviews with the subject, reviews of their work, etc.)? TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  16:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a short interview with Soaps.com here. But I don't think that is a reliable source. Fribbler (talk) 17:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

He is a relatively new actor. I am attempting to help boost his popularity. I also located the Soaps.com interview. There are other articles about Nathan, but they are all soap opera based. There are also a few articles online regarding his voice over work in the anime spectrum, but I wouldn't consider those sites reliable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vana77 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that may be your problem, namely that you are trying to "boost his popularity". Wikipedia does not accept advertising or promotion. Much like Joe Friday, we want "just the facts, ma'am". You should read our info on writing neutrally to learn more. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

That's understandable. The information I submitted is factual. There are pages for other actors on General Hospital and I wanted to contribute a page for Nathan. I saw that there is a page for the character that Nathan Parson portrays. Is there a way to link the page on his character with the page that I created for him as an actor? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vana77 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

abt my life
how to be bold in life n face all the problems with smile —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nssdineshreddy (talk • contribs) 05:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Great question, but I don't suppose we at this board are any better equipped to answer it than anyone else. The page you're on is intended to help new contributors learn how to edit Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. We do have our own guideline on being bold, but it may not be quite what you're after. Even our miscellaneous reference desk will tell you this is a matter of opinion, and are unlikely to be able to answer your question.
 * As an entirely subjective opinion, I'm a fan of trying to fake it til you make it... Good luck! Gonzonoir (talk) 08:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Or to steal a corporate slogan: "Just do it". The only way to face problems with a smile is to start grinning. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:46, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Watchlist: Red negative numbers, and green positive numbers -- what are they?
Newbie here. I noticed these positive (green) and negative (red) numbers associated with the entries on my watchlist. Is this some sort of rating? Can you point me to some information about this system? I have looked through FAQ and Help without success. Many thanks Gregpierce2 (talk) 19:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The characters added or removed, red means it is negative, green means positive SpitfireTally-ho! 19:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * For example: (-19) would mean that the total characters added and removed comes to -19. And this would mean that it came to +28: (+28) SpitfireTally-ho! 19:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * It's in one of the FAQ's: FAQ/Miscellaneous PrimeHunter (talk) 20:51, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As this is a common question, I just created a shortcut to that FAQ: WP:+-. – ukexpat (talk) 04:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


 * And also WP:+/-. – ukexpat (talk) 14:12, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

electronics
what is the difference between TFT, LCD & PLASMA TV and how they work ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajaismile (talk • contribs) 11:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * See TFT LCD, LCD, Plasma display, Large-screen television technology. Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. SpitfireTally-ho! 11:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

How do i advertise my business?
how do i advertise my business on this page?and how can my guests view my profile? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bala3824 (talk • contribs) 07:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It is not allowed to use Wikipedia for advertising. See FAQ/Organizations. You can create a user page at User:Bala3824 but it may not be used for advertising. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Any page created with the purpose of advertising will be deleted. Please also read WP:COI, in short, you can't use wikipedia to advertise, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 14:46, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Also note that wp:userpages are for the purpose of helping the participants of this project to build the encyclopedia. Creating an account for the sole purpose of posting a profile could end with the page being deleted.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  20:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

How to correct title
I managed to create my first article, Eden mills writers' festival, with incorrect capitalization and can't figure out how to change it without creating a new article. Is it possible? Vanwaffle (talk) 15:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * At the top of the article there's a "move" button. Click on that and follow the instructions.  freshacconci  talk talk  15:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I just realized you may not have the "move" function. I'm not sure if that's a basic tool or it's something that you add with gadgets or Twinkle or some other add-on. I've made the change for you, but basically, there's a move button next to history and you just make the change in the field provided and the move is done for you (with the talk page).  freshacconci  talk talk  15:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * They should have the move tool, it is given too all autoconfirmed users, which Vanwaffle is, SpitfireTally-ho! 16:10, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * For more information on the move feature, please see WP:MOVE. Thanks Livewireo (talk) 18:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Oxycodone potentiation
Does Loratadine or Rabeprazole sodium potentiate Oxycodone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.225.240.105 (talk) 23:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * [[Image:P physics.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Science reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. Someguy1221 (talk) 23:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, please note that while the Science reference desk will try to aid you with chemistry-related questions, don't take anything they say as medical advice. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  00:10, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Burlington Zephyr
In the section on train models, I do not find any reference to the models produced by Lionel in the 1930's 71.98.2.27 (talk) 02:51, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Burlington Zephyr redirects to Pioneer Zephyr. You can make a suggestion on Talk:Pioneer Zephyr. You can also try to edit the article section directly but note that it's a featured article and may be watched by editors with high demands of edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:51, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Joining a Project
Hello

I am a relatively new editor and am interested in theatre.

On the WikiProject Theatre page it asks you to "Join WikiProject Theatre and list yourself as a Participant in the project." For the life of me I cannot figure out how to join. I cannot figure out how to edit the participants box, and there is no other obvious joining mechanism. Any suggestions?

Ecragg (talk) 14:40, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Follow this link. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  14:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Note that the list of participants at WikiProject Theatre has an edit link at the top (assuming you haven't disabled "Enable section editing via [edit] links" under Editing in Special:Preferences). That is the link given by Tnxman. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Userboxes
How do you create your own userboxes? Mr. Prez (talk) 23:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See Userboxes. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Networking
How to set User right permission in Windows XP System? For Certain Users the Files should not be shared the users should'nt access and view the Workgp computers too? How to implement plz provide me some procedures and Steps

Regards, Nerin A James —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nerin James (talk • contribs) 07:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * [[Image:P computing.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  08:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Uploading new information
Hello

I have just uploaded new information about the UK rock band Tribe (tribe band)..however it doesnt appear to have formatted it correctly in the Wiki style..could someone help please?.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tribeweb123 (talk • contribs) 11:37, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've removed the info you've added to Tribe (band). Instead of adding material on top of the existing article, you should try integrating the material into the article. Also, please remember that Wikipedia is not a fan site and that all material added must be neutral and reliably sourced. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Additionally please do not violate copyright when editing, please do not copy text directly from websites such as this one: 1, thank you SpitfireTally-ho! 11:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Listing a non-[profit
Would it be considered self-promotion/ conflict of interest to list & write about our small non-profit (which has only a website but not been in the news, yet).

thank you, violagalloway Violagalloway (talk) 13:35, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, outside of the conflict of interest, you may also want to read Wikipedia's policy on verifiability and notability. This means that the article has to have reliable, third-party sources that show your non-profit organization is notable. Livewireo (talk) 13:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * And please also read WP:Corp and WP:SPAM and the links in the welcome message I just posted on your talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 15:03, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Jim Jannard
I am looking for information on Jim Jannard and if possible an e-mail contact to him

Thanks Rvitello —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rvitello (talk • contribs) 16:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 2.8 million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. SpitfireTally-ho! 17:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Obtaining an image for an article that is OK from a copyright point of view
How do I do this? I have found suitable photos on Flickr. Can I use them? What do I need to do? How do I avoid breaching copyright.

Peteinterpol (talk) 21:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I suggest reading Image use policy thoroughly. The images need to be free and licensed with Wikipedia compatible licenses, and nonfree, copyrighted images can not be used unless it is allowed by Wikipedia's fair us rationale at WP:FAIRUSE. You can upload them either here, or at Wikimedia Commons, using Special:Upload, though Commons would be much prefereable, so all of the wikimedia projects can use the images. Fingers OnRoids  21:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you - that is helpful. I am still struggling though.  I wish to add a photo of a real living person to their Wikipedia page. How do I find one that is Ok from a copyright point of view?  I searched Commons but the individual is not there.  But there are lots of photos of him on Flickr that would look great.

Peteinterpol (talk) 23:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If it is a living person, then copyrighted images are not acceptable, so WP:FAIRUSE is out of the question. For info on what licenses from Flickr are acceptable, see Upload/Flickr. Check to see the license info on the pictures you want to upload, and if it is allowed, then go ahead and upload it. If not, you might have to contact someone with an image of the person that they took themselves, and have them release it using a compatible license. Fingers  OnRoids  23:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks - helpful again. When you say "Check to see the license info on the pictures you want to upload", does that mean, for example, contact the person who posted them on FlickR?  Will they know the copyright status?  I have photos on a FlickR site but I have no idea how they stand in terms of copyright.  If the 'owner' says it's OK to use them, does that make them OK for Wikipedia?


 * I guess that is related to your point about having them "release it using a compatible license". What does that actually mean in terms of what happens?  Sorry for my ignorance, I am new to this but I am keen to learn how to do it correctly.


 * Peteinterpol (talk) 07:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Go to the page you are interested in at Flickr. In the right hand column of the page at the bottom (you may need to scroll down a bit to find it) You will see the heading "Further information".  This has the copyright information.  If it says "all rights reserved" that's it, you can't use it unless you can persuade the owner to release it.  Otherwise, you can click on the link which will take you to the pictures licencing page.  To be allowed on Wikipedia the licence must allow derivative and commercial use.  If it says non-commercial only, sorry Wikipedia cannot accept it.  Where the licence has a non-commercial term, it is described on the image page as "some rights reserved".   Sp in ni  ng  Spark  09:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for this helpful advice - this solved my problem.
 * Peteinterpol (talk) 16:32, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Finding places to help
What's the best way to find articles that I can contribute too? I've poked around a bit with the Community portal, and I can find some lists of articles, but none too extensive, and I can't find an easy way to filter out just the ones that I would know something about. I tried joining the Cleanup task force, but I'm not sure it's still active. Any other advice? bdodson (talk) 06:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't know if you're interested, but maybe WP:NPP? — Ched : ?  07:00, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you go to Category:Stub categories, there's a whole list of different topics, all with a list of pages that need more work. Although there is a lot to go through - Kingpin13 (talk) 07:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You don't say what you might know about or are interested in, but you might try and find a Wikiproject to join that interests you. There are projects covering many different subjects and most maitain a list of articles that need work.  Here is the directory of projects.  Another thing you can do is article cleanup.  Editors tag articles that need copyediting or some other cleanup when they do not have time, or want to edit it themselves.  A list (a very long list) of such articles is at category:all pages needing cleanup.  There is also Wikiproject Wikify with a corresponding list at category:Articles that need to be wikified. Welcome to Wikipedia.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  09:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * By the way, I would not worry about not getting a response from the Cleanup task force, a lot of projects do not have anyone patrolling their own project page. The page often just serves as a list of people doing that activity and/or a list of articles needing their attention.  On the other hand some projects pages are really buzzing with activity.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  09:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info everyone! One thing I've wondered: is there a way to produce a list of articles marked as needing cleanup and matching a set of categories? If not, I downloaded a database dump and might take a try at hacking a tool together. Thanks again bdodson (talk) 04:39, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Very often the maintenance template will automatically put the article in a suitable category. For instance, articles tagged with the template   all turn up in Category:Mathematics articles needing expert attention.  Ask a new question saying exactly what you want to find and we might be able to be more help.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  12:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Mental Steel
You've heard of mental toughness ,well my definition of mental Steel would be an unflinching determination,and undeniable will ,a a focus so strong that you cannot or will not fail! FOR EXAMPLE MICHAEL JORDAN ON HIS WAY TO THREE CONSECUTIVE NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS! TIGER WOODS WHEN HE IS IN THE ZONE! That is what I call some that possess (Mental Steel) = extreme intense focus! My name is Kayode Fernando Adeyemo and would to contribute this for consideration!

MENTAL STEEL!

PS. I think our 44th Pres has Mental Steel! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MentalSteel (talk • contribs) 12:26, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not a dictionary, not for neologisms and not for original research, so I'm sorry but your suggestion cannot be accepted in Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Constant Violations
I read extensively on the subject of my article and the procedures that Wikipedia employ before reading here, but upon creating my article, it seems I been flagged for deletion due to WP:N and WP:RS. It has even been declared spam by some when it clearly about a software product that exists and has reliable links and images. Am I doing something wrong because its getting me pretty flustered due to the constant improvements I am making to it and the nearly 20 citation links to a small stub I have had to add. The link to the AfD is here and the actual article is here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihegba (talk • contribs) 14:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, first of all coming here and venting is not going to improve your arguments; second, commenting on every !vote and other comment in the Afd will also just annoy people - make your point once and let the Afd run its course. There is already a discussion ongoing at the Afd page, so it should continue there. – ukexpat (talk) 14:41, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Please understand I am not venting, merely wondering if it was I that was doing something wrong, and as a new user, asking for help on a new contributors page. If this is not the correct place to go to seek help or constructive thoughts on a problem that one is having, then do you know of somewhere better? Ihegba (talk) 15:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * As the article has now been deleted per the Afd, my suggestion is, if you want to make another attempt at writing an article that will stick, to create it in a user subpage, User:Ihegba/Record (software) for example. There you can work on it over time without fear of it being deleted. I have created that page for you and put a link to it on your user page. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 15:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You may want to have a look at WP:REFUND, or request the deleting admin to restore the content if there was a great deal of time invested in the original article. Also, I don't want to "WP:BITE", but you may want to look over WP:COI. — Ched :  ?  15:38, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

not copied and pasted
I just got through writing and article on a new writer, and they are saying I copied and pasted it. that is not what happened. After I wrote it, I copied it to my word program to correct spelling errors, and then after I corrected it I copied it back on. I have proof of this writer, but I am not sure how to add links and stuff. I saved it, I was trying to find away of temporarily saving it, so I could finish it and find out how to do other things on it. I am not sure how to add all the things.

Karaschena (talk) 22:48, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Is the article "Book title, Coto, Child of the Ocean"? Fingers OnRoids  22:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

not copied and pasted continued


no it is not about the book, Coto, Child of the Ocean, I was trying to do a biography on the writer, of the book Coto, Child of the Ocean, and The ghost child of camay lane. I am actually not familiar how to use all this, or add links or anthing else. I thought I could write the first page and then add picture or other sources by editiing it. I thought you could ad any author information one here.

Karaschena (talk) 23:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The article Shirley King Hanna was deleted because the author is not notable under our guidelines. It appears her books are being printed through PublishAmerica, which is considered a vanity press; generally, authors being printed through vanity presses are not considered notable. Tony Fox (arf!) 03:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

ok, got it. Although publish america is not a vanity press, I think that is where someone self publishes books, and the author did not self publish her books, but I do know that a third book is being published, but she is publishing that through a different publisher because of the limitations she has through publish America. I will wait on the article until the third book is published. What about the books she wrote herself. Are they able to have a page of their own. I know, Coto, Child of the ocean was deleted. I am actually new to this website and have to figure out how to do all the steps on here and add things and links.

Karaschena (talk) 13:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The best thing to do is to write your article in your own userspace, for instance if you click on this link User:Karaschena/Shirley King Hanna it will take you to an edit page in your own space. It will be safe from deletion there.  When you have finished it, ask another editor to check it before you move it to the main space, you can ask for that kind of help at WP:EAR.  Please also read the notability guidelines for books, people and especially authors.  These explain who may have articles on Wikipedia.  You will be expected to verify these requirements with references to reliable sources if you don't want the article deleted again.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  17:11, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, now once I redue on my user space, how do I save it, without releasing it to the main page? If I push save, it is going to go to the main page. I was trying to figure this out before. Is there a way of saving the writing, and holding it, until notability can be found? Also, what exactly is notability? I can go any where on my browser search and find this authors information? How can I get the links on here, and so on? Is that what the Wikipeia company does,or does the user do this?

Karaschena (talk) 10:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Your userspace is any page with a name beginning with .  For instance, like the red link I have given to you above.  You save the page in the normal way.  As I said above, no-one is going to delete a page in your userspace because of lack of references, you are allowed a lot more leeway in userspace because those pages don't show up in searches and are not considered part of the encyclopedia.  There are some limits, attack pages and copyright violations will get deleted, but if you are just writing an article it will be left alone, that's what userspace is for.  You can read about notability for general notability, for books and for authors by folowing those links.  The references you have to find yourself.  Once you have found them just write them in your article in plain text and then come back here again to ask about the proper formatting.  Or else you can drop a note on my talk page and I will help you with it.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  17:17, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Repeated follow-up question removed and answers pasted here  Sp in ni ng  Spark  17:26, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I have gone back to look at your definition of Notability, and I understand that part of it now. So I only need an answer for what I just wrote above.About adding links and so on.

Karaschena (talk) 11:18, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:SUBPAGES for help creating a user subpage. – ukexpat (talk) 15:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

How do I?
How do I insert a image onto a page I might create?Hiskorninchi (talk) 05:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If Image name already exists on Wikipedia or on Commons you insert it in an article with the code .  If you are asking how do you upload an image, at the moment you are not able to because you are too new.  You must wait until you are autoconfirmed after which you can upload images by following the instructions on the uploading images page.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  11:38, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * But before you upload to Wikipedia, please read our stuff on non-free content. – ukexpat (talk) 14:48, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

MINKUS
why is my article about Swiss metal band MINKUS is being deleted?

How can I write an article about a Swiss band in the category Swiss bands?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabz85 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * As indicated on your talk page, it was deleted under criterion A7 of the speedy deletion criteria because it did not indicate the importance or significance of the band. Please also read WP:YFA, WP:BAND, and WP:RS. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 16:37, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Collect reader input
I want to create a page about oat allergy, there is not many information about it in the web. I was wondering if there is a way to collect the input that people put in but store in a private section that only people edit the article can read it. For example: taco bell actually use oat in their preservative for their food. So reader can just write a quick comments about how they have allergic reaction when eating Taco Bell, with the tag of FoodReactTo. Then later anyone that contribute to the article can check this comment, do more research on it and decide if it is wiki worthy. The main focus will be what kind of food (such as bread) that people with oat allergy react to. So reader input need to be limited. I apologize If there is already a feature for this, would someone point me to the resource. Thank you in advance. Nblue1 (talk) 20:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * No I am afraid not - that would not be an encyclopedic article and would be tantamount to using Wikipedia as a forum or bulletin board in violation of WP:NOTAFORUM. You could create your own space for doing that at Wikia. – ukexpat (talk) 20:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your advise, good thing I did not start doing anything yet or I would have violate the rule. Nblue1 (talk) 22:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

how to use this site in the current job competition for civil s —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.252.246.234 (talk) 05:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Edit summary: entering two sections
The Wikipedia:Edit_summary page provides the following example for entering two section names in the edit summary:
 * /* Foo */ test /* Bar */ test

However, when I try this code, I instead get:
 * /* Foo */ test - →Bar: test

What am I missing? 24.0.94.81 (talk) 05:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It doesn't work. It has been reported in 15481 some time ago. I will add a note to the help page you link. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! 24.0.94.81 (talk) 13:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Page redirects
Hello,

I spent a lot of time creating an article providing useful information on public car parks at Liverpool Airport.

I find out today that when I search or attempt to access the page, it is redirected to the main Liverpool Airport page, which does not have any specific, helpful details concerning the car parks available.

My question is: why is the page I spent so much time on to provide helpful, unique information redirected and now apparently inaccessible? I must be doing something wrong trying to access it, right?

Thanks.

Stefanchou (talk) 10:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See Redirect. The page history shows it was redirected by another editor saying "wikipedia is not a travel guide". This refers to What Wikipedia is not. Your page did look helpful to users of the airport but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not for all types of information. Article subjects should also satisfy Notability. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:50, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

IP Address issues
Hello,

I have been editing Wikipedia for months, I think, but a problem has occured with my IP adress being confused with a previous Wikipedian that caused his page to be vandalized. I added a note to User:IronCrow's talk page addressing the issue, but I don't know if that was enough and I am unsure if I need to do anything else.

Thanks in advance, 74.5.110.177 (talk) 11:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Currently i cannot understand what question you are asking, or what problem you are referring to. Based upon your edit history i can see no indication of any involvement regarding User:IronCrow. Nor can i see any form of warning or block regarding vandalism. Are you referring to the message XLlinkbot left you on your talk page? Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs )


 * The allegations of vandalism were for User 72.75.101.222, it's on his page. In his (IronCrow's) user page, there was vandalism that occured by that IP stating that he kept editing and called him names and what have you for it, though those edits were, for the most part, mine, not his. That was resolved. I don't want to be accused of sockpuppeting or whatever it is called because this IP address is currently the one I am using; but it was the IP under which IronCrow used to edit (he currently does not edit Wikipedia). My question is, was addressing the issue on the talk apge enough or do I have to do something specific to avoid future allegations that my edis are his? 74.5.110.177 (talk) 11:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * So, if I get the gist of what you are saying, you are using the IP address that IronCrow used to use? And that there may have been some vandalism (not yours) from the address? If that's the case, then you can continue to edit Wikipedia without any problems. Since IP addresses rotate regularly, messages left for one user of the IP may be received by another user. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sort of. The vandalism was done by 72.75.101.222, not my address. His vandalism mentioned that IronCrow had edited after the fact that he stated he was not returning to Wikipedia or whatever his user page says. I am afraid that my edits will be confused again as being IronCrow's edits, when they are not, and that this will lead to accusations of sockpuppeting. Is there anything I need to do to make sure that my IP does not get confused with IronCrow's edits? 74.5.110.177 (talk) 11:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you are concerned about being confused with others who have edited from the same IP address then you can create an account which also has other benefits. See Why create an account? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I understand, but I am not interested in creating an account. Besides, it's still the same IP, how does that help with accusations of sockpuppeting or edit confusion? Is there no other way? I mean, I could just point to the discussion page piece as a refernce, right? 74.5.110.177 (talk) 12:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I am still not completely certain what the problem is for now - The IP 72.75.101.222 resolves to the Washington DC area, and is registered to Verizon, while your own IP resolves to Texas, Humble, under the provider embarqhsd.net. Technically taken you should never receive the 72 IP as ip's won't cycle trough different providers - each provider has its own dedicated range. Are you using two seperate connections? Or is this another connection then the one you previously used?


 * Similary, i see no sockpuppet cases for IronCrow, and it is not uncommon that an IP user is a different person every time. For example, cases are known where wikipedia editors were assigned IP adresses of blocked vandals. One of the advantages of a user account is that established users can login from those adresses unless it is specifically set to block every user - and not just users who are not logged in. Besides, what discussion are you refering to? Could you link it? Perhaps the context of this question becomes a tad more clear then :) Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 12:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I already stated my IP is not getting confused with the 72 IP, he was just the vandal who accused MY edits of being IronCrow's. I'm not saying sockpuppet cases have occured either, I'm saying that I am afraid people might Confuse my with ironCrow, that's all. The discussion is on IronCrow's Discussion apge, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IronCrow 74.5.110.177 (talk) 12:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Only a few users with CheckUser access can see which IP address a logged in user is editing from, and they only do it under certain circumstances. See CheckUser. I don't know whether the vandalism by 72.75.101.222 to User:IronCrow is related to whether or not you have edited from the same IP address as IronCrow, but I wouldn't worry about it in any case. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks for the assistance guys. I appreciate it. I just find it odd that the guy knew my IP adress was also IronCrow's former IP address. Bugs me. 74.5.110.177 (talk) 13:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Having spent some time trying to unravel this one I can honestly say I have no idea what you are talking about. There is nothing in the vandalism of 72.75.101.222 that indicates it was triggered by your IP starting to edit, he seems to be responding purely to what is on Ironcrow's user page.  Wikipedia does not reveal the IP addresses used by registered users so 72.75.101.222 could not know that 74.5.110.177 was Ironcrow's IP until you revealed it (which you should not have done by the way, see WP:OUTING).  Unless, of course, 72.75.101.222 has some direct personal contact, in which case he will already know that the 74.5.110.177 edits are not Ironcrow.
 * You also say that the vandalism of 72.75.101.222 was in response to edits you had made to IronCrow's page, but were mistaken for IronCrow himself. If you are referring to the series of edits beginning with this one then I am not surprised at the mistake since the history shows these were made from the IronCrow account.  If you have been using IronCrow's account and you are not IronCrow then that is definitely against the rules, accounts are for individuals only, not for groups - see WP:NOSHARE.  Please do not do that, it will lead to the account being blocked.
 *  Sp in ni ng  Spark  14:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Images of insects, animals, and plants for Tree of Life
I was wondering where I could find information about what are good pictures to take for articles pertaining to insects, animals, and plants. Do we want to have images picturing creatures and plants in natural surroundings, or would we prefer to isolate the creature for the taxobox? Thank you for your assistance! Jasonaltenburg (talk) 14:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * There is a wide range of images used in biology articles, see mushroom and camel for example. If you are going out to take pictures, try and pick on articles that have no or few quality pictures already, for example Parasitaxus. More images are always welcome but established mature articles are likely to have enough already and it is possible to overstuff an article with pictures.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  15:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You might find the following useful to identify articles needing images;
 * Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of animals
 * Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of plants
 * Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of fungi
 * Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of insecta
 *  Sp in ni ng  Spark  15:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * One question, shouldn't the mushroom article, according to the tree of life, and by example of the camel article, have a taxobox? I am very interested in contributing to these areas. Jasonaltenburg (talk) 15:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm no expert, but I think the answer is that mushroom is not an official taxon, the relevant taxon in this case would be fungus which does have a taxobox.  Sp in ni ng  Spark  15:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

creating articles
How do I create my own article without editing someone else's? please notify me if I'm answered on my talk page THANKS! ^_^Anime Warriorette 93 (talk) 15:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. – ukexpat (talk) 15:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Original authors notifications
If someone edits the page or contributes to the page does the original author get notified to see is the content is correct?Joethistle (talk) 16:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * No but you can add any page to your watchlist and check that list as often as you like. Also note that an article's creator does not own the article. – ukexpat (talk) 16:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

centering text
How do I center text in a gallery. At the moment the text is to the left.Lamanchica (talk) 16:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Use this code: your text here – ukexpat (talk) 16:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Many thanksLamanchica (talk) 17:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Section 7a criteria
How do you get an article into section 7a criteria? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noahsarrels (talk • contribs) 05:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * There is nothing called 7a criteria. I see you have created articles at Thermosat (band) and Otto beyer which were deleted under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion so I guess you are referring to A7. Follow the link. Saying "this band is important because the band changed the life of one of the band members who was in a deep depression" is a personal matter and does not qualify for importance in an encyclopedia. Saying somebody has received awards without saying which awards is too vague. Many people receive minor awards of no importance to the world. You must indicate why the subject is supposed to be of importance to an encyclopedia. If you avoid A7 deletion then the next hurdle is Notability (music) or Notability (people). They are harder to satisfy. A lot of articles about bands and musicians are deleted for failing A7 or notability. If you don't have independent reliable sources to show compliance with the relevant notability guideline then I recommend you don't try to create the articles again. Unsourced or poorly sourced staements might get you by the speedy deletion criteria A7 but the articles would probably still be deleted by a slower process due to lack of verifiable notability. Also see Conflict of interest if you are connected to the subject. Other websites have other policies. You could consider WikiPopuli or Biographicon instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

help me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rapperderis (talk • contribs) 14:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Request for Undeletion
Hey um im new as u can see but my wiki page got deleted for lack of info when i jsut started making it and i would like it back. i dont remember all i put on it. it was Super Smash Divisions... um help please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Froztfyre (talk • contribs) 00:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The page you created is still here and can be found here. Another editor thought that the subject was too narrow to warrant a separate article and redirected the page to Super Smash Bros. Brawl. You can see what happened by clicking the "history" tab at the top of the page. You may to contact the editor to see what you can do to improve the material. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I see you also created the deleted Super Smash Divisions. You were the only contributor and I have copied your last version to the user subpage User:Froztfyre/Super Smash Divisions. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:13, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Martha C. Nussbaum
I have been reading Liberty of Conscience by Martha C. Nussbaum. Your article about her includes a biographical section which refers to her education. It omits her undergraduate studies at Wellesley College (to which she refers in this book).

What is the correct, and efficient, process for me to note this? Friend1116 (talk) 22:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Click the "edit" link to the right of the appropriate section heading on Martha Nussbaum, or click "edit this page" at top. Edit the existing text, optionally click "Show preview" to check that it looks correct, and click "Save page". See Citing sources for how you can reference the book as source. You can optionally use Cite book for the purpose. You can also read Tutorial if you want to edit here. Biographies of living persons applies to the article so be careful to only add material which has been published by herself or reliable sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Search page redirect.
How would I redirect a search page to its specific sub section in an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.17.132.202 (talk) 05:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You can create a redirect from the term for which you were searching to a page section, if you're sure that's what people searching for the term will be after - what's the specific example? Gonzonoir (talk) 08:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Editing wikipedia
Dear Wikipedia I have recently contributed with some extermnal links on Wikipedia on some topics, mainly academic. Since then you have disallowed my contributions saying that they were if a promotional nature. I would like to ask you whether you could think again on this issue. My company/website (http://backdoorbroadcasting.net), which deals exclusively in academic podcasts, is only there to disseminate knowledge, and the contributions I added were by the people listed in Wikipedia (their lectures and conference papers). While I certainly appreciate the traffic I get via Wikipedia, there is no financial gain for me and all podcasts are free. The institutions (universities) which pay for my services are obliged to disseminate their knowledge and for this reason have hired me. I would appreciate it if you could re-consider your decision. Yours sincerely

René Wolf Renewolf (talk) 16:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello, adding links in articles of a website you have a personal conflict of interest in is not allowed; for the whole list of external links that you shouldn't add, see here here. However, you can suggest the link be added on the talk page of the article, and another editor can add it in, if they decide that it contributes to the article. Regards, Fingers  OnRoids  20:49, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Eddie Tuduri
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkbutt (talk • contribs) 04:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Please see Your first article.
 * 1) Ensure that you have an account and you are logged in. If you don't have an account, create one
 * 2) Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article
 * 3) Find references
 * 4) Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
 * 5) Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
 * 6) Click 'Create this page'
 * 7) Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines
 * 8) Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones.
 *  Sp in ni ng  Spark  10:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

ovarian cancer
I still see the effects of ovarian cancer but cant get over the pain it causes me every time something new comes up,its been 5years am now 23yrs.I get scared but soon gets over it,i keep asking myself when it will all stop.It has caused me my better part of life, as we say all this my stomach is as big as a six months expectant lady,have not seen my menses 4 the past 4 months, i nose bleed for more than four hrs before it stops please help me know to forever understand —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.202.206.96 (talk) 12:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid we can't give medical advice of any kind. Please see our medical disclaimer.  C h a m a l  talk 12:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I can only say i wish you the best, but trough our guidelines we cannot offer medical advice. Wikipedia editors are volunteerd from different area's of expertice. Due to this any form of medical advice might come from an unprofessional source and could therefore be completely incorrect. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 12:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Recent edit Reverted
I have been working on a very small piece, a stub I think it is called, and am looking to move it live. I am pretty confused. I've tried playing in the sandbox, then I tried creating it on my user page, then I tried a politician stub. Apparently my recnet edit to Template: Politician-stub "did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted."

Please, where do I construct this stub for a politician? Why was my attempt reverted and what does that mean? I have and will read again the welcome page but thus far I am pretty lost. --Polyphemus5000 (talk) 16:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like you have the idea turned around. Instead of adding the politician to the template, you need to add the template (which is ) to the article about the politician. If I'm not mistaken, you're trying to create an article for Jack Eddington? TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  16:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I fixed the tag; but unless he is notable for some other reason, a member of a county board is not generally going to make our standards for notability. What does he do besides his gig for the county? -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  19:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The reason I reverted your edit was because you placed the Jack Eddington article on the template. That template is used in all politician-related stub articles, so 'Jack Eddington' was transcluded all across Wikipedia. Thanks,  L ITTLE M OUNTAIN  5  21:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced edit links
At the page Amoxicillin, due to the infobox the links to "edit" the the first three sections have been displaced. Can it be corrected? (Can it be a browser problem. Btw I use Firefox 3.0.) --Siddhant (talk) 16:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See How to fix bunched-up edit links. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, I fixed it in this edit. Now its all clean and tidy. I did not know that such a page existed, thanks very much PimeHunter. --Siddhant (talk) 18:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

linking to an image / map
The Guatemala page Guatemala has a nifty map of the language groups in Guatemala and where they are (geographically) but none of the pages for any of the languages I've checked seems to link to the map.

This seems like a sensible thing to do...but I do not feel up to it. I was sort of wondering if there was a cabal of folks who are most interested in the Guatemala page and might want to do it. I'm not sure if it's better to embed the image on each page...or what?

Alternatively I could take it on a few pages at a time if someone clearly explained to me how. Wikikd (talk) 18:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)--Wikikd (talk) 18:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, interesting idea, but I would personally not advise it, maps should probably be used on pages about loacations, rather then languages, just my opinion, thanks for the suggestion, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 18:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Can't say I agree with Spitfire on that, there are many uses for maps in an encyclopedia, besides simply geography. Distribution of anything can be represented: people, languages, vegetation, animals, houses or whatever.  To my mind the range of a language on a map can be helpful information.  Just a few examples I found on a very quick search; Indigenous peoples of the Americas has this map, Indo-European languages has several including this map, Celtic languages has this map and Languages of Afghanistan has this map.  However, a degree of caution is required here, you need to make sure that the map you are using comes from a reliable source, any issue regarding nationality and cultural inheritance can be very controversial so you need to make sure the map you are presenting does not represent the biased point of view of some group or other.  The image summary gives the source as Comisión de Oficialización de los Idiomas Indígenas de Guatemala which is official sounding, but it does not state the document or web page where the information was obtained, so for the moment we are unable to immediately verify those facts.  Another point I would make to you is that the map is not really suitable for a language that covers only a small area.  For a widespread language it is fine, but Ixil language for instance, according to its article, is spoken in only three villages.  A much larger scale map is required there, perhaps with the small scale map as an inset.  Anyway, to finally answer your question, the map can be inserted in an article with the code:




 * Be sure to use the preview button to make sure it does what you expect before you save it for the world to see.  Sp in ni ng  Spark  20:12, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

question
Can wikipedia be saved to my desktop so I can log-in right away? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jyoc (talk • contribs) 19:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you mean can you save it as a desktop shortcut? Of course, just create the shortcut in the normal way, usually by dragging your browser tab onto the desktop (depends on browser - you may have to go into the file menu. To allow automatic login when you click the icon, go to the "my preferences" menu at the top of the Wikipedia screen, click on the "Misc" tab, make sure the "Remember my login on this computer" box is checked, click "save".  Only do this on your own computer which only you have access to.  DO NOT EVER do it on a public computer, it could result in your account being hijacked.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  20:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Article removed about font foundry
Hello,

I added article about Tour De Force Font Foundry and when I got back today to see it, an user (guess it's one of admins) removed article with explanation that "no independent sources, no suggestion that they exist, and no significant hits at news.google.com/archivesearch."

After I send him links with more informations about font foundry, he told me to ask here about further help.

Here are links at the moment that are related with font foundry and more links will come during next week/month.

http://www.ascenderfonts.com/category/tour-de-force.aspx

http://cg.scs.carleton.ca/~luc/serbia.html

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22tour%20de%20force%20font%20foundry%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=nw

http://www.tourdefonts.com/

http://new.myfonts.com/foundry/Tour_de_Force/

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chambara (talk • contribs) 14:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Please take a look at some of the links in the welcome message I just posted on your talk page. In particular, please read: WP:YFA, WP:CORP, WP:RS, and WP:SPAM. – ukexpat (talk) 15:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Editing/Translating an article and adding new information
To whom this may concern,

I am new to the editing scene on Wikipedia but would like to contribute to the community website. My questions are:

1) If I were to edit an English article on a subject that exists in the Japanese wikipedia, how do I cite the references if all the information I`m getting is material that I translated from the Japanese version of the article?

2) If I were to add new articles and pictures that I took myself regarding a subject, how I properly cite those references?  (I currently work for the government office of a small town that I would like to write more about and am note sure how the mechanics of referencing will work in this case)

Your help in this matter would be greatly appreciated!Shakai jin (talk) 06:54, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well if you're translating it sentence by sentence, then you can just add the source that is listed on the japanese wikipedia; non-english sources are preferable though, so try and find an english reference first. Adressing your second question, if the only sources you have are in japanese, like I said before, english ones are preferable, but not required. Images do not need references, just add upload the pictures and add a suitable license. Fingers OnRoids  20:13, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Fingers, you just told him that non-English sources were preferable. :-] Shakai jin, I see you've figured out how to tag your images; if you are uploading photos you've taken, just use .  Any other questions?  Let me know!    Fl ee tf la me   08:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

bhonsala military school-nasik
this is to inform all that i-Col s v kulkarni had joined BMS-nasik on 02 feb2009, however i quit (resigned) due to certain differences with the mgt.after just three mths i.e. on 06 May 09.

i wanted certain changes in the way the school functioned, the priorities laid down, aspects concerning the admin of students, staff and the other employees, the pay scaleof the Mil trg staff, the discipline, security, number of students to be kept in the hostels keeping in view the resources available. both admin and trg,the improvements in the messing, hostels, criteria for intake, etc. however i realised that it was a commercial venture with no concern for achieving the basic aim - Not one student has got into the armed forces since the last decade plus is otself indicative of the achievements of the school!! drastic changes were /are essential to achieve the aim i.e to facilitate/train students to be able to join the armed forces - maharashtrians esp -as officers. the std of the academis staff can be gauged by this fact itsself.

surprisingly the Mah state govt has now furthe gone ahead and sanctioned the Bhonsala Mil College also!! can the concerned staff in the State Edn deppt kindly see/verify/ monitor ground realities before granting sanctions.

Asi wanted that changes be brought about,the mgt was not keen to do so. i put it down in writing too and also informed the concerned mgt commitee but found that things wouldnt change, in addition the school has just about come outof a crises of its involvement in the Malegaon blasts case, wherein the previous comdt was asked to resign besides others. i was totally against any aspect of religion /fudamentalism being given any scope in school activities. but somehow realised that things wont change ,as such ,i thought it prudent not to be assosiated with such an org and play with the lives/ future / carrier of students.if i cant make any changes. I as such submitted my resignation twice. on the request of the mgt, i continued till the academic yr and finally quit on 06 May 09.

its high time things be put in right order .besides i wanted to also keep the environment informed the reasons for my quitting lest be misquoted, thanks with regards --col s v kulkarni♠  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satish kuki53 (talk • contribs) 08:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Paragraph formatting corrected to remove inadvertent code boxes
 * What is it you want from this helpdesk? Do you think the article needs correcting in some way?  Sp in ni ng  Spark  08:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Questions about editing and the license change
Are the new license things in force now? Have I understood correctly that if I copy something from other Wikipedia article to other Wikipedia article I would have to attribute its maker? If so how do I attribute? 81.17.198.126 (talk) 06:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The new licencing comes into force June 15, see Wikipedia Signpost/2009-05-25/License update results  Sp in ni ng  Spark  10:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Currently, if you copy from another language Wikipedia, you use template:Translated page. If it is another page on the English Wikipedia it is enough to give a link to the original page in your edit summary.  If the material came from another wiki, use the appropriate template at Template messages/Sources of articles.  Presumably, some of this will change after 15 June but I am not able to say how, keep an eye on the template pages and make sure you use the up-to-date appropriate one.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  11:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Is that the only way? I would have to link to over 100 articles... 81.17.198.126 (talk) 12:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Diet Wiegman
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharestorm (talk • contribs) 03:05, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Please see Your first article.
 * 1) Ensure that you have an account and you are logged in. If you don't have an account, create one
 * 2) Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article
 * 3) Find references
 * 4) Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
 * 5) Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
 * 6) Click 'Create this page'
 * 7) Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines
 * 8) Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones.
 *  Sp in ni ng  Spark  10:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Question to Place the name in map?
How can I place my name in the home shown in wikepedia map?77.30.87.142 (talk) 06:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Are you talking about Wikimapia? If so, this has no connection with Wikipedia.  They have a forum where you could ask your question. If your question is about Wikipedia, please provide a link to the map you mean.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  10:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Image question


I have uploaded an image It is an image file of a political party logo I have received a request from Wiki to add categories to it I cannot, for the life of me, work out how to do it despite Wiki telling me how easy it is. All I see are a never ending circle of interlinked pages, none of which give me a simple answer but instead refer to yet another round of interlinked pages I can't even find a list of categories

All I want to know is 1) how do I categorise this picture as a political party logo 2) how to I upload it to appear next to an article I uploaded about this political party?

PLUS: Where is the "Click here to ask your question about editing Wikipedia" link???? Nowhere I can see

Thank you

Chris KellyChristopherkellywiki (talk) 09:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You have not uploaded any images, indeed you are prevented from doing so because your account is too new. Your edits so far, are not really what Wikipedia is looking for, you need to write neutral and factual material with the sources provided. I am afraid I am going to have to nominate your article for deletion.  If you want to save it, you will have to do a lot of work, starting with a more neutral name, followed by some sources to establish notability of the issue.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  10:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Striking that, the party really does exist, although the article still needs a ton of work.  Sp in ni ng  Spark  11:12, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You have uploaded commons:File:ExtremelyGreedyFortyPercentPartyLogo.jpg to Wikimedia Commons. Somebody else added 4 categories to it today, but no logo categories. If it has really been used as logo by a party then you can click "edit" on the image page and add  at the bottom. This will place it in Commons:Category:Political party logos. See for example Picture tutorial for how to add an image to an article. The "Click here to ask your question about editing Wikipedia" link is at the bottom of the boxes at top of this page, a couple of lines below the place you probably copied the text from. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:58, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I stubbified the article severely to address the major NPOV problem. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Di George Syndrome
Mr Snowball (talk) 11:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC) ==

Hello

I am Ian Snowball. Snowball is my real surname and after two rather disrespectfull messages I am English and have lived in England all my life and have a qualification in English Language so dont need to use an alternative Language to starts with.

I am sufferer of Di George Syndrome. To correct the correspondant in my previous message I recieved and now cant seem to locate, it is a real disability and not a disease. Get your facts right.

I could start an new topic about living with Di George Syndrome as there does need to be some educating of other wiki users attitudes towards english people with disabilities in Wikipedia.

I would like to have the "how to" provided to allow the original topic i contributed places in the Di George Syndrome Section of the article that allready is there and the title of the new subject ought to be Guidance to the Judge at Tribunal for Di George Syndrome.

I have had to defend my self on wikipedia before and this can amount to discrimination.

Thanks for your help.

Ian Snowball Mr Snowball (talk) 11:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Mr Snowball. Welcome to Wikipedia, and I'm sorry your first experiences here have been frustrating. It looks as though someone reverted your additions to the 22q11.2 deletion syndrome for two reasons:


 * 1) They were in the wrong section of the article
 * 2) They were quite hard to understand.
 * It's also worth noting that material in Wikipedia must reference reliable sources: your contributions have the best chance of remaining on Wikipedia if you can show the sources that inform them. For that reason, we probably also wouldn't accept an article about living with Di George syndrome, since that would be a subjective and personal piece and Wikipedia can only include objective, verifiable material. Similarly, we couldn't include guidance for judges in tribunals concerning people with the syndrome. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and cannot give legal advice. I'll paste onto your page some more information to help you get an idea of what's within Wikipedia's scope, and how you can contribute.


 * Does this answer your questions? Gonzonoir (talk) 11:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikiproject
How can I get more Wikipedia contributors to join my Wikiproject? Mr. Prez (talk) 20:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you mean Wikiproject McDonald's then it sounds narrow in scope for a WikiProject. Have you seen the links at WikiProject? I guess WikiProject Food and drink should be the parent project if you really want to make this WikiProject, but maybe a task force under that project would be better. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Commenting
If I don't want to edit existing material, but do wish to comment on a recent occurrance (in this case GRB 090423 and its essential signifgance), how should I proceed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.229.45.169 (talk) 22:33, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This is not the best place for that. A better place to carry out such a discussion would be in a dedicated astronomy forum or the comments section on an online news article or blog post about the topic. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you have a suggestion for the article GRB 090423 then you can post it to Talk:GRB 090423. If you have a scientific question then you can post it to Reference desk/Science. But if you want to publish your own comment without asking a question or aiming to change Wikipedia articles then Wikipedia is not the best place as Consumed Crustacean says. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:46, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

crossword puzzle
what is false symptoms created to avoid work? -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.191.71 (talk) 22:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This page is a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. You can ask questions unrelated to Wikipedia at Reference desk, but it might be better if you can give more information. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

What is indifference and a reduced level of activity? --j —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.191.71 (talk) 22:49, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See my above post. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:53, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

creating a page
Is there a way that u could make a profile for someone else or would you have that persons approval? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Youngjincreate (talk • contribs) 02:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you're asking if you can create an article about someone, you must first be sure that the person is notable and has received significant coverage in independent reliable sources. See our tips on writing your first article for more info. If a person has been covered in independent sources, you don't need their permission, but please note that Wikipedia places high importance on accurate info in biographies of living people. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  03:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I would like add Computational Fluid Dynamics page in Kannada language
Hello

I developing a article in Kannada Language to linked in Wiki main page on "Computational Fluid Dynamics". Please help.

Best Regards Santosh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Santoshbc (talk • contribs) 11:39, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you are trying to ask. Could you be a little more specific? It seems like you are asking how to write an article. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  14:24, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you are making a Kannada version of Computational fluid dynamics and want to link it to the English version then see Help:Interlanguage links. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:05, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

You want to add a link to the article on the Kannada Wikipedia? Simple.. edit the article on the English Wiki, go to the bottom of the page and type "name of article". Replace "name of article" with the kannada text exactly as it is at the kannada wiki. Then edit the Kannada Wiki, go to the bottom and type Computational fluid dynamics. That's it, you're dpone... --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 15:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Constant removal of my edit
Hi, I am trying to post the following on Allen Collins page:

"In 1987, Allen Collins met Bill Massey, Jr., and together they co-founded Roll For Rock in loving memory of Ronnie Van Zant. Both young men had been paralyzed in the prime of their lives, and they wanted to help other people. Roll For Rock hosts benefit concerts and wheelchair sports events to raise awareness about spinal cord injury and to provide opportunities to those facing physical challenges. Roll For Rock also participates in medical research that is seeking a cure for spinal cord injury. Allen's dream was to use music as a way to educate all people about ways to flourish in life despite a physical challenge."

The same two guys keep deleting it, accusing me of popup ads, spam, and self-promotion! The information is factual, it is not a popup or spam, and there is no conflict of interest because I am voluntarily putting this information up so that people can know what Allen did before he passed away. One of them has threatened to block me from editing if I post it again. It is making me very sad that someone would attack my work this way. What can I do to stop it? I am acting in good faith and I am not doing anything wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by R4Rvolunteer (talk • contribs) 04:31, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Add forum-shopping to the list. See WP:AIV. Too bad discussion hasn't worked. <b style="color:#00C">⋙–Ber</b><b style="color:#66f">ean–Hun</b><b style="color:#00C">ter—►</b>  (<b style="color:#00C">(⊕)</b>) 04:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * First of all, if your edit keeps getting deleted, you should stop inserting it. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the issue, you should stop inserting it.  Wikipedia does not like edit warring on the article pages, it is bad for the reader's experience and bad for the editors involved.  Administrators here are instructed to block editors if necessary to stop it happening.  Here is what you should do when there is disagreement, you should open a discussion on the article talk page.  I see that you already have had that advice from another editor, but when I look at the article talk page there is no discussion there at all.  Before asking others to intervene, editors should always try and resolve issues themselves by discussion.
 * As for the post you are trying to insert, I can see immediately that there are problems with the tone of the language. If nothing else, that needs to be changed, to neutral, encyclopaedic, language.  Wikipedia is not a memorial.  Phrases like "in loving memeory", "primes of their lives", "Allens dream was..." are all not factual and could be read as promulgating a point of view.  I would also question the source you cite for this information and whether it could be considered reliable, it appears to be taken from a CD insert.
 *  Sp in ni ng  Spark  07:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * One more thing, the vandalism report is not appropriate for an editorial disagreement. That page is only for reporting actions that are straightforwardly destructive.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  07:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Page Deletion, Changing name of article
Dear Sir/ Madam, I received a notification of spam for a page i just created, kindly advice me how to assure the authorities that it is not a spam. Kindly also help me in changing the name of article from "MIEC" to "MIEC ENGINEERING SERVICES", and how can I advertise it on "http://wikimapia.org" if the size of the article is changed. Thank you. Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asifayaz (talk • contribs) 11:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Your article has already been deleted giving G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion as the reason. Please read WP:Conflict of interest and WP:notability before creating any new article.

Please see Your first article.
 * 1) Ensure that you have an account and you are logged in. If you don't have an account, create one
 * 2) Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article
 * 3) Find references
 * 4) Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
 * 5) Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
 * 6) Click 'Create this page'
 * 7) Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines
 * 8) Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones.

 Sp in ni ng  Spark  18:31, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Adding PIctures
How do you add a picture to a wikipedia page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Achelsea94 (talk • contribs) 15:56, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Add [[File:name of image goes here]] to a page. See Images for more :) Queenie 18:36, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The picture must first be uploaded to Wikipedia or Commons before it can be used in an article. You are not able to upload to Wikipedia because you are too new.  You can upload at Commons by following this link.  Please ensure that the image is licenced for use here and is not protected by copyright.  Once it is uploaded, it can be inserted into an article by typing thumb at the place you want to insert it in the article.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  18:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

List of National Fruits
National fruit is the best-chosen fruit of a nation.

Here is a list of Natinal Frutes Countrywise

America - Unknown

Argentina - Unknown

Australia - Unknown

Bangladesh - Jack Fruit

philippines - Mango

Jamaica - Ackee

Brazil - Cupuacu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.130.8.61 (talk) 17:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


 * We have List of national flowers which redirects to Floral emblem which seems to include national fruits.

Please see Your first article.
 * 1) Ensure that you have an account and you are logged in. If you don't have an account, create one
 * 2) Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article
 * 3) Find references
 * 4) Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
 * 5) Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
 * 6) Click 'Create this page'
 * 7) Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines
 * 8) Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones.


 *  Sp in ni ng  Spark  18:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

adderall
How long does adderall stay in your system and does it show up in a drug test —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.108.174 (talk) 21:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know the answer myself, but perhaps someone at the Reference desk/Science would be able to offer an informed opinion. — Ched :  ?  22:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems like a medical question - for legal reasons, we're not allowed to answer those, are we? --68.249.1.190 (talk) 23:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Answering scientific questions is fine, even if medically related. What you must not do is give medical advice, which is a quite different thing, but sometimes hard to distinguish.  But anyway, as Ched says, ref desk is the best place to take it, the folks there are very experienced at distinguishing the two.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  07:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Global Energy Independence Day
OK Global Energy Independence Day would like to put it on Wiki pedia See www.teslasociety.com and google for dedtail.s That heading For CLEAN GREEN ENERGY held on Tesla b';day Jul 10th recoganized by vaious Goverments.Thanks!SWORDINHAND (talk) 20:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:SPAM. If you think you can write an article that is not spammy, please read WP:YFA. – ukexpat (talk) 21:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

F. M. Christianson and Northfield, Minnesota
Christianson has a well deserved Wikipedia entry for his choral music, but is not listed as a famous resident of Northfield, Minnesota (someone is not paying attention). How do I get him listed there?

Martin Sovik —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.30.177.240 (talk) 04:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like you figured it out: do you need any more advice? Gonzonoir (talk) 09:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And just to respond on the "someone is not paying attention" point: because we're all volunteers here, no one has the responsibility to make any particular edit on Wikipedia. As you've seen, the beauty of the place is that we can share the work around :) Gonzonoir (talk) 09:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

exact ime for tahazzut namaz?
i want to know the exact time for tahazzut namaz. i live in hyderabad,India at motinagar near erragadda.i am specifying place because time can vary according to place residing.i know that it is between isha namaz and fazr namaz but i want to know the exact time so that i can start doing that from as early as possible. please help me in this regard. sabiha.shaik —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabiha11811 (talk • contribs) 09:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Unable to edit infobox on a page
Hi, I'm trying to edit the infobox here Chislehurst and Sidcup Grammar School to add an english translation to the motto. The code for the infobox is "| motto_pl    = Through Study, Character Grows" however this doesn't show up on the article. Probably justs me missing out a character or something, but I'd appreciate it if someone can guide me in the right direction on this.

Edit: I've got a quick fix to this, to change the motto field to incorporate both Latin and English"| motto = Abeunt Studia in Mores (Through Study, Character Grows)". If this is what you're meant to do to fix this, great, but then what is the use of the motto_pl field? TTGL (talk) 11:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you look at the template documentation, you will see that the  parameter is used when there is more than one motto, so the way you have it with the translation in the main motto field is correct. However, a quick look at the template code (and I should add I am not a template coder) appears to show that the   parameter is not actually coded in the template. If that's correct the documentation should be updated. – ukexpat (talk) 14:51, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for that, I guess I got confused when looking at the infoboxes for unis and college, which contain a mottoeng field, and I thought it was the same thing. I don't know what you mean by template code, but I'm guessing that you're saying the motto_pl doesn't actually do anything, its a redundant field? Thanks TTGL (talk) 15:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It certainly appears to be redundant. If you view Template:Infobox UK school in edit mode you can see the template code. – ukexpat (talk) 15:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, ok. Its not just motto_pl, theres no founder_pl or specialist_pl in the code either. I'll post in the discussion about it. Thanks again TTGL (talk) 16:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia On Windows Mobile
Hi I am using a windows powered handset. I want wikipedia to have a site which can be opened on a WM. Like the new york times, google and yahoo etc. There must be a mobile wikipedia page.

Thank You Sarthak Srivastava —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.50.181.246 (talk) 11:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe this site or this site may be your destination. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox
I can't figure out how to put an infobox on a page, how can I? Mr. Prez (talk) 12:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll have to add the appropriate template to the page with the correct parameters. For an example, see . TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  13:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I tried that and it isn't working, what should I do? Mr. Prez (talk) 13:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, to which article are you referring? I could point you in a more specific direction if I knew. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  13:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You have tried to insert something called "Infobox State Fair". No infobox in that name exists. When you add an infobox to an article, what you do is actually transclude a template with some parameters. In other words, the infobox should already exist as a template. See Template:Infobox Person, Template:Infobox settlement for examples. Since there's no infobox template called State Fair, you can't add something like that to the article.  C h a m a l  talk 13:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

new user editing
Wikipedia Help Desk:

I am a new user. I frequent wikipedia often and i'd like to edit some content on the page Weiss/Manfredi Architects. I am currently an employee of Weiss/Manfredi and we're not sure who has posted the existing article on our company. we'd like to edit the content to reflect more accurately who we are as an architecture firm and we'd like to use our firm profile from our website and other information that might be tagged as copyright infringement. I heard that if text from wikipedia matches existing text on the internet then it will be flagged. As a legal employee and representative of this company, how can i avoid any copyright issues when editing the article Weiss/Manfredi Architects?

thanks so much for your help.

Weissmanfredi (talk) 16:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * First of all see WP:COI. You should refrain from editing the article but note on the article's talk page the changes that you think should be made, bearing in mind WP:RS. Copyright materials can be released for use on Wikipedia by following the procedure at WP:IOWN. Also your user name is clearly in breach of the user name policy – ukexpat (talk) 16:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Newton's Second law is having some problem???????? how? let me proof it.
According to the second law of Newton, the force is equal to the product of the mass & accelaration. F=ma again we know a= v/t hence, F=mv/t =>v=ft/m So we came to know that the velocity depends upon the mass. Hence if mass is not changed & the same force is applied on an another body of unequal in size, there should not be any change in velocity. If v1 & v2 are the two velocities then

V1 = v2

BUT for two bodies of same masses different in area, we can proof that v1≠v2

If we consider a body of same mass m but small in area than the previous mass, then practically we will get that the displacment of the body of small area(x2) is greater than that of the body of large area (x1).

Hence, x1<x2 Dividing both the sides by time t, we get x1/t < x2/t => v1<v2

Proofed//

Hence we must take the concept of area into the second law of Newton.

MY OBSERVATION

The velocity & the displacment of different bodies varies inversely with the area.

If A be the area, then A ∝ 1/v   and     A ∝ 1/x

=> A ∝ 1/vx => A = ψ/vx

where ψ is the constant of proportionality. The value of ψ is yet to be calculated & I need help from the Phisics people & Phisics Organisation to study more about the fect.

If anybody feels any objection on my observation please let me know.

Regards Sujay Chakraborty Assam, India. Guwahati- 781031 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sujay123id (talk • contribs) 17:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This would be a great point to raise at the Science reference desk. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  18:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Vandlism on a newly created user page
How should I handle vandalism on new created user page, user talk:Doru001? I have rollback privileges, but there is nothing to rollback to, and I am not crazy on the idea of blanking the page. And is there a better page to ask this type of question? Thanks. Click23 (talk) 20:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, blanking the page is fine (and I have done so). If you have further questions, please feel free to ask them here. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  20:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick response. Click23 (talk) 21:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You can also ask an admin to delete the page if you dont want to see it in the history. I am awfully nervous right now (talk) 02:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

outlining article
HOW DO YOU Successfully OUTLINE AN ARTICLE?Student803 (talk) 14:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Do Outline or WP:Outlines help? If not, then maybe the folks over at the Reference Desk can help, but note that we will not do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 15:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Or if you're trying to get a "Table of Contents" to show up in an article, see here.   Fl ee tf la me   00:35, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

My Book
I recently listed my book, The Nature of Information (Greenwood Publishing Group, 1987) to the list of further reading on the Wikipedia "Information" page. I now find it has been deleted. This work has been cited as a major reference on information by a number of prominent scientists, not least of whom was physicist, John Archibald Wheeler. The complete list of references can be found in a Google Scholar search for "The Nature of Information by Paul Young". Can you please tell me why this reference was deleted, and if there is anything that can be done to reinstate it. This is a work that deserves to be on a page for further reading on the subject of Information.

I would appreciate any help you can be on this matter.

Sincerely,

Paul YoungNatureofinformation (talk) 19:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * For a start I would change my username as it is against our username policy. You may request a username change at Changing username. Not sure about the book and why it was removed someone will give you more info on that soon. BigDunc  Talk 19:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * your addition was removed (according to the user removing it) because you have a conflict of interest and it was interpreted as spam, if you wish to re-add your book please gain a consensus on the articles talk page: Talk:information. All the best SpitfireTally-ho! 19:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I do not know what conflict of interest your editor is referring to, since it was not specified. All I am trying to do it add a legitimate reference to your article on Information, one that ought to be there. Your lack of specificity in this area makes it difficult for a contributor to know how to respond. I would argue that the Wikipedia Information page is itself fairly incomplete and lacking in significant references, so for some unknown editor to eliminate my listing without even giving me a clear reason for it is counterproductive to what Wikipedia is supposed to be. I can live without the reference; it's no big deal. But I say again that the book belongs on that list. Thank you for your consideration. Paul YoungNatureofinformation (talk) 20:13, 3 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Natureofinformation (talk • contribs) 20:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As suggested above, the best approach would be for you to go to the Talk:Information page and leave a comment there regarding your book and how it would benefit the article to have it included. Often, when a new editor arrives and immediately starts placing links into articles, it is a sign that the person in question is attempting to use Wikipedia for promotional purposes, which is not its role. There is also a clear conflict of interest policy that you should read - it will give you some useful information to avoid such issues. Again, drop by the article talk page, and discuss the insertion with editors there - if the consensus is that the inclusion is a benefit to the article, then it won't be a problem. Cheers. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought you might not understand what I meant, so I left links for your convenience, just click on the blue text in my above comment, thanks SpitfireTally-ho! 20:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your thoughtfulness, Mr. Fox; it is much appreciated. However, it is not worth all that trouble to me. I believe the book should be listed because it belongs there. I'm not willing to press the point, nor argue for its inclusion. I say with no arrogance intended that it is to the detriment of the Wikipedia article on Information that it will have failed to list one of the seminal works on the subject of the identity of information. Thanks again.Natureofinformation (talk) 20:30, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It is possible due to your username that it was deemed as spam a quick look at google books and it appears that it might warrent its addition but I make no judgement on it. BigDunc  Talk 20:40, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Dear Mr. Young, please do not waste the time of the good people at this page with this drivel. Of course your link is spam and was quite rightly reverted.  The second sentence of the linked page unequivocally states that the page is selling something, further down I read that "All major credit cards are accepted securely via PayPal".  This is the very definition of spam.  You waste the time of at least half a dozen volunteers who have reviewed you contribution and taken the trouble to reply to your complaints and then have the nerve to say "it is not worth all that trouble" when advised how you should proceed.  There is no right to have sites listed in our external links, in fact the default position is not to put in a link unless there is a good reason, from the external links guideline we should not include,


 * Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article.


 * That is, even if your site was not contravening the rules about promotion and payment it still would not be acceptable. In short, you are in contravention of multiple Wikipedia policies and guidelines including WP:COI, WP:SPAM, WP:EL and WP:UN.  Please give it a rest before an administrator blocks you.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  21:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I posted two links - one was a listing of the book in the Further Reading section. The other was in External Links, a link to the website that sells a paper that is a distillation of the book. I understand the reason for the link to the website being blocked, and have no problem with it. However, the listing for the book itself was nothing but a reference to the existence of the book and its publisher. There was no reason for this to be removed. They are two separate issues. Your inability to distinguish between the two listings demonstrates a poverty of intellect. And your arrogant, patronizing tone toward me does Wikipedia no credit. It is an excellent example of drivel. I say again, the Wikipedia article on Information lacks a reference to one of the seminal works in the field. Block away.Natureofinformation (talk) 21:53, 3 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Natureofinformation (talk • contribs) 21:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Mr.Young, please be civil, and stop the personal attacks. You have stated that your external link that you put in was inappropriate, and Spinningspark was addressing that. The reason that the listing was removed was probably because of your inappropriate external link, and the user who reverted it probably assumed that both additions were spam, and removed them accordingly. Fingers OnRoids  22:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It is astonishing that you would accuse me of personal attacks, when your previous editor referred to my request to have my book listed as drivel. Again, I say, the fact that your editors could not discriminate between the two listings I posted does Wikipedia no credit. I am not trying to sell Wikipedia anything. If you don't think my book belongs on the Further Reading list, don't list it. But attacking me and then accusing me of attacking you is sheer hypocrisy.Natureofinformation (talk) 22:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I have to agree about the unidirectional warning. But that is a distraction; let's not get bogged down with that. We all agree now the external link isn't appropriate. So all that's left is the addition in "Further Reading".  If you do not want to pursue this, then I guess that's done too. If you change your mind, Tony Fox's advice above is spot on. I see you've visited WP:Changing username, and you've been given two (!) welcomes with some useful links. Seems we might be done here, except for a reminder to those who've been here a while to not bite the new editors. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes. I think Spinningspark was a little hard and things easily escalate on the Internet. Natureofinformation only added the book to one article and didn't readd it when it was removed but came here to discuss instead. People are not blocked for that. And Natureofinformation requested a new user name right after being asked here, but it was rejected because the wanted name had already been taken. Some administrators can be quick to block promotional names so please make a new request. It's obvious to Wikipedia editors that a book author has a strong conflict of interest in Wikipedia's sense when adding their book to an article, but outsiders may fail to follow the link and not realize what Wikipedia means. They could for example think that the book itself was claimed to have been written with a conflict of interest. Note that Wikipedia has almost 3 million articles and the editors of Information who can be reached at Talk:Information are probably better suited to evaluate the book than the people who happen to see your posts here. If you still think the book should be added then I really suggest you bring it to Talk:Information. You are right there is a difference between the book itself and a website selling the book or something about it. A technical note: The article history shows your website edit was automatically tagged as "possible conflict of interest" by our software. If an editor of the article sees that and confirms the tag is justified (which it was) then it's common to revert the whole edit(s) without spending time examining the details for salvageable parts which there are usually none of. Remember there are millions of articles and unfortunately a lot of people who add bad things to them. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Primehunter - Your courtesy and thoughtfulness are much appreciated, as are your explanations. All I can say is that having my book listed as a reference in the Wikipedia article on Information, where I think it belongs, and will help enrich the reference potential of Wikipedia's article, has turned out to be a lot more trouble than I anticipated. I will contact Talk: Information. Many thanks for your help.Natureofinformation (talk) 00:24, 4 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Natureofinformation (talk • contribs) 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I went off the deep end there a little, my apologies for my rudeness. I admit I did not realise that you had made two seperate entries, I only went back three edits in the history, all tinkering with the website link (which I still say is unsuitable) but missed the book reference four edits back.  Asking other editors on the article talk page to make the edit for you is definitely the proper procedure on Wikipedia when you are connected with the material.  You might also want to mention that Google Scholar shows the book is cited in a fair number of other works when you make the request, that is always a good sign.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  00:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for that, Spinningspark; it's very much appreciated.Natureofinformation (talk) 14:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I notice that a "Resolved" sign has been placed at the top of this section. Although it is correct that any personal dissent between editors in this matter has been resolved, the underlying issue, my original request to have my book listed in the Further Reading section of the Wikipedia article Information, has not yet been resolved. I have posted a request on the Talk:Information page, as suggested, but there has been no response so far. I have no idea how long the process should take before a decision is made as to whether to list my book or not, but wanted to set the record straight as of the moment.Natureofinformation (talk) 20:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * There is no problem with keeping this thread unresolved (I think the bot will archive it anyway once no one has written to it for a period), but if none of the editors here are willing to make that edit there is not a lot of point. It is also true that many articles do not have a lot of editors watching them.  The project the article belongs to are shown on templates at the top of the article talk page with links to the project pages.  There is more chance of finding someone knowledgable on the subject at those project pages.   I know the mathematics project in particular has an active group of members.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  17:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your suggestion. It is much appreciated. I have to say that the process that has unfolded here, following my mistake in adding an External Link that was inappropriate, has involved me in a maze of correspondence, all with only one purpose in mind - to ask Wikipedia to consider listing my book in the Further Reading section of the Wikipedia article on Information, where it belongs, and to consider this as a separate issue from the mistaken link problem. Logic would suggest that all Wikipedia has to do is reconsider this one request, but it seems that this is not the case, and that I must somehow continue to argue for its inclusion. It is astonishing to me that this one matter cannot be handled with a simple yes or no - either Wikipedia accepts that this reference should be added, or it does not. But to make me chase around trying to find someone to approve my request is unnecessarily complex, time-consuming and burdensome. I have paid a price of considerable time and energy trying to get one book listed in a section in which it truly belongs. As mentioned above, a search of Google Scholar for "The Nature of Information Paul Young" will result in thirty-four scholarly references to my book. Surely this should be enough for Wikipedia to see the legitimacy of my request, and, indeed, with no arrogance intended, that the book, The Nature of Information, belongs on the Wikipedia article on Information. As a last resort, could I go back and re-list the book in the Further Reading section of the artiole, and, if I did, would its inclusion be considered on its own merits, separate from the mistaken link I added, or will that follow me around wherever I go in Wikipedia? I should note also that I applied for and received a user name change, as advised by two Wikipedia editors, as a sign of my interest in resolving this matter. Any help you can be in this will be greatly appreciated. At some point, it simply is not worth the time it takes for me to have to hunt down an answer to what seems to me to be a very simple question - will Wikipedia accept the listing of my book in the Further Reading section of the article on Information, or not?Natureofinformation (talk) 18:31, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * There is no deadline in Wikipedia. It may feel important to you when it's your book but to others it's probably just a minor detail in one of around 3 million articles. Wikipedia is primarily an encyclopedia to provide information by itself. A further reading section is usually not considered an important part of an article. Your suggestion is at Talk:Information where it can be seen by people considering to edit the article. Maybe some have already seen the section and decided to not get involved in what looks like a long discussion because you copied all posts from here at the time. Wikipedia editors are volunteers, nobody can tell them what to work on, and there is no chain of command or rigid review process for suggestions. Even if one editor said no on the talk page, others might say yes later and add the book. Or if one editor added the book, others might remove it later. Articles change and Wikipedia has another structure than you may expect from other organizations. I once made a conflict of interest suggestion to an unimportant article and got no replies for 10 months until somebody made the suggested addition. Spinningspark mentioned something which may attract attention to your suggestion. Another possibility is Request edit. Whether you want to spend time on discussing with editors or trying to get a fast reaction is your decision. If you had posted to Talk:Information when it was first suggested here 8 minutes after your original post, and you had not discussed further here or elsewhere, then you wouldn't have used much time. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond and explain something of Wikipedia's structure. Now that I understand the process, I'm happy to leave it there. I didn't realize that entries such as the one I have been suggesting - a Further Reading reference, could be added and removed by different editors. I assumed that once a reference is listed, it would remain listed. Again, I am most grateful, as not understanding enough about how Wikipedia works was the most difficult aspect of this for me. I wish you the very best with your personal projects. Paul YoungNatureofinformation (talk) 04:30, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Further reading is not considered references by Wikipedia. See Layout. By the way, it's especially external links sections where editors add and remove entries. A common cycle is that various editors add links one at a time (often with a conflict of interest like their own site), and at some time another editor comes along and cleans up, often removing several entries. A further reading section may be more stable. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:55, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you again, Primehunter. You are very thoughtful and all your input has been much appreciated.Natureofinformation (talk) 21:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC). For the record, my new user name is InformationZone.InformationZone (talk) 21:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Creating a page that is currently redirected?
Hi, I want to create a page for Cavapoo. Currently when you search for Cavapoo it redirects to List of Dog Hybrids and so on. How can I stop this redirect and create the page? Matt Cherubrokker (talk) 11:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See Redirect. Note that the page history shows there has been an article  in the past but an editor redirected it for not satisfying Notability. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The article also has an unencyclopeadic tone. It needs a rewrite in a more neutral and factual style.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  10:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Nazi criticism
Since when is it "unsourced" and/or "negative" to qualify Nazis as racist, uneducated, and dangerous? Please reconsider and allow me to add "which, of course, places them near the top in the disgusting class of racist, uneducated, and dangerous music acts that popped out as so many sick worms during the 90s." to the "Absurd (the band)" page. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.201.145.38 (talk) 11:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Such language violates Wikipedia's policy of neutral point of view. Remember, this is an encyclopaedia; there are places on the internet to voice your own personal commentary on subjects, but this is not one of them. <b style="color:#FF0000;">haz</b> (talk) 11:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Besides, you don't even need to use those adjectives. Just list very plainly what they do and who they are and then they'll be condemned by simple facts. &mdash;harej (talk) 02:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Getting a Page Live
I have written an article in my sandbox but have no idea how to make it 'live', nor how to title it correctly - it is currently titled with my own username, but the article is obviously not about me. One of my external links should also have the subject matter as it's reference but it keeps putting my own username in there instead. I have searched the tutorials and FAQs for half an hour now but am going around in circles!!

a) How do I give my page a proper title? b) How do I then make it live? c) Why can't I find the answers these simple Qs anywhere in the tutorials (sorry to drive you mad!)?

Thanks,

Prince60 (talk) 12:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello, im about to help you. I have had a look at the article in your sandbox and i think you have done a good job. Read Your first article to find out all the information you need about making your page "live" and im sorry you couldn't find the answers in the tutorial. I know when i first started, there was just so much information it drove me crazy but this is the place to ask questions and hopefully i've answered yours. Cheers 211.30.120.216 (talk) 12:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * a) The title on top of the page is automatically generated by the mediawiki software, and displays the location where the page currently resides. Since that is currently your userpage sandbox, that title is displayed. Once it is moved to the correct location, the title will switch.
 * b) To make a page go live, it must be moved to the correct name in the article space. There is a tab called "Move" on top of the page - which i presume you do not see at this time. In order to move a page a user must have been around 4 days, and have made at least 15 edits. This is a means to counter pagemove vandalism from new accounts. To solve this wait for four days and stack up 15 edits, or, as a more simple means, just tell me what title the page has to go to, and i will move it for you.
 * c) I see you did not receive a welcome template - i added one to your talk page now. A slight annoyance is that wikipedia actually has masses of help pages - in fact i personally think that due to the large amount, man can't even figure what help page is the correct one anymore. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 12:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh that's wonderful and so clear, thanks so much! Yes, I realise now it is because I haven't got 15 edits under my belt, so there is no 'move' tab. The article is simply titled 'Sarah Deane' and I have referenced everything accordingly. Would you mind moving it for me? Hopefully I shall have the required 15 edits soon. And thanks for the welcome template! Mich.
 * Prince60 (talk) 12:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. The article is not located at Sarah Deane (And see, the title changed). I removed the the headnote as it directed the user to the same page the user is already on. Also, i reformated the references a little bit to allow usage of them as footnotes. Apart from that: Its a rather good article, and if this is truly the first you ever wrote on wikipedia, you can up that "Rather Good" a notch or two to "Very good". :) Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 13:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you!! And thanks as well for the 'polish'. Yes it is my first time but I did take my time over it and used other similar bios as a template. Hopefully I'll get the hang of it soon. Cheers again, very much appreciated, you've been wonderful. Prince60 (talk) 13:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Your more then welcome. In case you need any further assistance, feel free to ask for it: Generally taken the best method is to ask it here or at the general helpdesk as those placed are generally actively watched by multiple editors. Of course you can always contact me at my talk page in case you need help, though that might not always be the fastest method to get an answer :). Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 13:11, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I am having the same issue not being able to publish the page that I have created here []. My plan is to update all the hotels in Singapore, then in surrounding countries and this is the first article. I appreciate any assistance and advice that you are able to provide for this project. —Preceding unsigned comment added by H6657-MK (talk • contribs) 03:59, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Mahendra Mohan Das
Mahendra Mohan Das is a 16 year old Assamese boy who recently got all Assam 11th rank in class X SEBA board exam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahendramohandas (talk • contribs) 04:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you have a question or require any help? Gonzonoir (talk) 08:02, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Citing References of a non-English Language
Is it possible to cite a reference that is in a language other than English? Why? Kayau (talk) 10:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, though English is preferred. See Verifiability. Algebraist 11:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I will clarify this. Kayau has been adding Chinese references to the List of vegetarians article. There are many foreign language references on there such as Portuguese, Dutch, German etc but since they share the English typeface they can still be verified and translated. The Chinese language doesn't use the same typeface and just comes out as gibberish. So what Kayau is actually asking, is it permissable to use a typeface which can't be rendered on English language computers? I removed them because I think that on the English language Wikipedia the references should at least be readable which is the case even if they are in German but this is not the case with Chinese. This is the English Wikipedia after all, so I think references should at least use the English typeface so that someone who is versed in German or whatever will at least be able to translate them without having to install other typefaces on their computer. Foreign languages are verifiable through translation, other typefaces makes them non-verifiable. Betty Logan (talk) 00:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Lots of non-Chinese computers can display Chinese without the user installing something extra, for example my computer with Windows Vista (Danish version). I don't know Chinese but the source added by Kayau in is http://www.vegsochk.org/yueso/ys140/ys14002.php. I entered that at http://translate.google.com. The translated heading says "Cheung Adhere to a vegetarian", and the text starts "Jacky Cheung addictive eating vegetarian". Not perfect English but understandable. You should be able to make and read the translation on your computer and it seems a lot more accessible than many offline sources in English. I have not evaluated the reliability of the source. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That google tool is very useful. I don't have a problem with the reference per se since there are many foreign langauge references there.  However, I think you have to appreciate this is the English version of Wikipedia so while there may be many computers that can display Chinese there are many that can't and this should be taken into account.  I think if Kayou wants to add the references he should put them into the google translater and use the google address http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vegsochk.org%2Fyueso%2Fys140%2Fys14002.php&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&history_state0= as the reference.  That way the page is translated into the English typface and there is an option to go to the original Chinese page if you want to.  Is that ok by Wikipedia rules?  Betty Logan (talk) 01:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't link to a translator in a reference. How to use a reference is up to the reader. You can place Zh icon to show a reference is in Chinese, or use the  parameter in for example Cite web. See Linking. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Kayau (talk) 02:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

My report about a dictionary.
greetings my friend!i'm a new user in this community,and i'm wondering if you can help me out about my report in my literature subject,regarding the"uses and functions of a dictionary"and how can i discuss it clearly in front of my professors and classmates about all the facts and knowledge about my recent topic.thank you very much my friend.Jsnrepil (talk) 12:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Algebraist 12:28, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

to link the existing pages


with reference to the Out line India; the topic Ports & harbours to be linked with the existing wiki pages on Ports in India; e.g. Kandla Port, Mumbai Port, Port of Veraval, Port of Navlakhi, Port of Jakhav, Port of Magdalla; Port of Dahej, etc. Please help in this respect. 2. I have other details of Ports of Gujarat State to hoisted as Ports of Gujarat - India. Can any one help me editing in the format as per Wiki standarad. Thanks moti 15:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC) moti / shiptradenews; V N Jhaveri —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiptradenews (talk • contribs) 15:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You are not entirely clear, but you seem to want to add the details of those ports to the Ports in India article and correct the link in Outline of India. I have corrected the link, you should feel free to add additional ports, but make sure all your information comes from reliable sources and you reference these in the article.  Feel free to ask more specific questions if you need to.
 * By the way, the sub-titles in Outline of India should not repeat "in India" each time, they should all be deleted: it is enough to have "India" in the main title.
 *  Sp in ni ng  Spark  20:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Further I would like to add more Ports in the exisiting list, but, I donot know to how to add the same. e.g. details of Bedi- Port are placed in Book Ports of Gujarat. Similar details for Ports of Mundra, Bhavnagar, Jaffrabad, Okha, Porbandar, Mul Dwarka, are available with me. I would like to submit the same. Can you help me in the matter. Thanks moti 15:39, 19 June 2009 (UTC) Moti/Shiptradenews - V N Jhaveri —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiptradenews (talk • contribs)


 * Are you asking how to edit the table? You can find details of how table markup works at Help:Table.  However, the easiest thing to do in this case is to copy and paste an existing line of the table and then edit the details for the new port.  Use the preview button to make sure it is right before you save.  If you cannot get it right, just write the information in plain text below the table then ask someone here to help you format it properly.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  17:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Mohammed Abdul Rahman Sahib
Mohammed Abdul Rahman Sahib (1898-1945)was born in Kodunagallor now in Trichur district. He studied in Calicut, Madras and Aligarh.
 * It sounds like you are trying to create an article. I would suggest looking at our guide to writing your first article or our articles for creation page. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  16:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Football Kits
Hi, I've created a football kit to accurately represent the clubs colors but I cannot figure out how to upload and use it. Help would be very much appreciated. Thanks. Cmym410 (talk) 16:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Your account is too new to have image upload rights. You either need to wait four days, after which you will get an "upload file" link in your toolbox to the left, or else you can pop over to Commons and upload it there.  Commons is usually preferred in any case since all Wikimedia projects can then use it, not just Wikipedia.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  20:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Wrong Picture in Today's Featured Article
The picture included with Today's featured article on the Euclidean Algorithm is a picture of Euclid of Megara, not Euclid of Alexandria, the latter being the famous mathemetician. The main article for Euclid of Alexandria even mentions that some writers in the Middle Ages confused Euclid of Alexandria with Euclid of Megara. The main article for Euclid of Megara shows the same picture as the one in Today's featured article for the Euclidian Algorithm.24.209.187.123 (talk) 03:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It is apparently uncertain who the artist thought he was painting. I have posted to Talk:Euclidean algorithm Error reports for the main page can also be posted to Main Page/Errors but when you edit there it says to discuss first on the article talk page if the problem was copied from the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Blank 'canvas' maps
Hi,

I am still fairly new to using Wikipedia, and I am wandering about uploading / editing maps.

I have noticed that in a variety of articles there seem to be the same generic map of the world, and of regions in countries. Quite often, a country or region is shown in a certain colour. As I am interested in editing one of these maps, I was curious if there was a 'template' map of each country on Wikipedia, that people can edit and insert into an article. I was also wandering if there was a guide as to how to edit these maps.

Any help would be appreciated.GeorgeK 16 (talk) 06:32, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You can find a variety of maps at Wikimedia Commons. You can find them under commons:Category:Maps. Otherwise just search in commons with the name of the country you are looking for and you'll find some maps (but there will be quite a lot so it might take quite a bit of searching and you could also use some relevant keywords).  C h a m a l  talk 07:51, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See also Blank maps and WikiProject Maps. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

upload picture
how do i upload my picture —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mykerich (talk • contribs) 07:31, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See Uploading images. Note you can only upload pictures to Wikipedia when your account becomes autoconfirmed (4 days old and at least 10 edits). At Wikimedia Commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org you can upload right away and use the picture in Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:42, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I cannot find my live page
Hello,

I have just added my company’s page (Elan Group Ltd), but I cannot find it from a search.

We are known as Elan computing or Elan IT as well and this is stated in the opening sentence. Should this not appear in search results for 'Elan'.

Currently the only way to find us is through our parent company - Manpower, whereby Elan is mentioned but this is by no means ideal.

Am I doing something wrong? PLease can you respond through my 'talk' funtion?

Thanks in advance.

Elanmktg09 (talk) 09:19, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

No, you are not doing anything wrong, odds are, your page got deleted by an administrator, but don't feel disappointed, that happens a lot when you're a newcomer, if it is true that your page got deleted, you can find out which administrator deleted your page and ask for a copy of it. Mr. Prez (talk) 11:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, it hasn't been deleted, but can be found here. Tagged accordingly...Lectonar (talk) 11:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you write Elan in the search box and click "Search" instead of Enter or "Go" then you get a search page and it shows up. If you click Enter or "Go" then you jump straight to Elan which is not a search page but a manually edited disambiguation page where Elan Group Ltd could be linked. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Korean war promotions.
Did congress or Gen Eisenhower freeze military rank promotion during Korean war? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.19.235.116 (talk) 10:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The Wikipedia new contributors' help page only answers questions about Wikipedia. Mr. Prez (talk) 11:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You might have better luck if you ask your question at the Humanities section of our Reference desk, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 11:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you looked at our article on the Korean War? It may have the answers you need. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  00:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

People or Business Referenced in a Movie
I would like to add information to an individual or company page about a movie(s) or book(s) that that individual or company has been in, referenced in, or other... I feel that this is good info for those researching not only into a persons or companies bio but there impact on pop culture or other...

How can I do this and not violate your policies?

Violations I wish to avoid: Advertising, Soapbox

Thanks Much

Bryan wikiedit (talk) 01:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Are the references significant? A lot of these items are so trivial as to constitute undue emphasis; i.e., there's no need to list every reference ever made to Jeffrey Dahmer or Richard Nixon in a song, movie, TV show, etc., in the articles about them. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  01:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

True, I was thinking of significant references... for example:

On the page of the company: Monsanto

Documentary

The company Monsanto is significantly featured in this film.

The Future Of Food (1:28:54)

Description: The Future Of Food offers an in-depth investigation into the disturbing truth behind engineered foods that have quietly filled U.S. grocery store shelves for the past decade.

Genre: Documentary and Biography

Producer: Catherine Lynn Butler

Writer: Deborah Koons Garcia

Released: November 13, 2007

Thoughts?

Bryan wikiedit (talk) 02:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia's guideline on reliable sources states, "The term "published" is most commonly associated with text materials. However, audio, video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a reputable third-party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable source. Like text sources, media sources must be produced by a reliable third-party and be properly cited. Additionally, an archived copy of the media must exist. It is useful but by no means necessary for the archived copy to be accessible via the internet." As long as your documentary (or movie, or whatever) meets those criteria, I don't see why it would be a problem.  The Monsanto article isn't desperate for refs (it has 92); you may want to ask on the article's talk page to make sure everyone who watches the article knows you aren't trying to promote anything or soapbox.  If or when you do insert it, just make sure you follow the pattern at Citing sources and you should be fine; and remember, you can always ask in the future at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard if a source can be used.  Good luck!    Fl ee tf la me   05:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * There is a difference between "references" (which are strictly there to support a particular fact, or facts, in the article) and "further reading" (or in this case, further viewing) which point the reader to other material they might be interested in. If you are adding as a reference, then it would be expected that additional material is added to the article, since it must be referencing something.  A "further reading" section, on the other hand, should be treated in the same way as external links (see WP:FURTHER).  The most relevant guideline of those is provide(s) a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  22:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Hide/show tables
Can you make tables in a article hide/show like the content box? Source code or an example will be appreciated. Anybody can fix something thats broken, but it take a genius to fix something that working. 15:34, 19 June 2009 (UTC) - Edit made by Kelaidis.


 * See Help:Collapsing. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! got it Anybody can fix something thats broken, but it take a genius to fix something that working. 09:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Good. By the way, your signature should link to your account. See Signatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Cite error at Stalin Line
I am extremely sorry for troubling, but I don't know how to resolve an error I think I've made. Before I started editing, I read about citing. I cited stuff I added to Ali Khamenei, and it seemed to work. However, when I added cited text to Stalin Line, this came up at the bottom of the article: "Cite error: There are tags on this page, but the references will not show without a tag; see Help:Cite errors." Help:Cite errors isn't a hyperlink, so I couldn't find it. I am sorry if the solution is really obvious or easy, I just don't know what to do. Renoti (talk) 21:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Fixed. You just forgot to put  at the bottom of the article.  The mediawiki software needs to be told where you want the list of references to appear.  In many articles this is already done, but in this case yours was the first reference so you also need to indicate the position of the reflist.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  21:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much :). On another note, when a friend introduced me to Wikipedia he vaguely spoke of a program where experienced editors 'adopt' new ones.  Was he correct, and if so where can I find more information on it?  Renoti (talk) 22:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See Adopt-a-User. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Cheers. I won't take up anymore time, I've really appreciated all the help, and based on my first experiences I'll be keeping up with Wikipedia :). Renoti (talk) 22:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

News Corporation also called Murdoch group in latin languages (How add that ?)
Please, explain me if this is a consensus question or a technical question (how make decision): Talk:News_Corporation. can I add to the voice  News_Corporation that  News Corporation is called Murdoch group in latin languages ? I want pacifically resolve the undo made by nationalistic english wikipedians. --Caceo (talk) 23:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * First of all, the accusation nationalistic is not assuming good faith which you are required to do on Wikipedia. The other editors seem to be open to discussion.  You are being asked on the talkpage of the article to answer the question: is "Murdoch group" the official corporate name of the organisation in those countries or merely a translation into another language?  I suggest you provide an answer as this will settle the issue.  It is the intention of English Wikipedia to have a world perspective, but it is still the English Wikipedia.  That means that it is written in English and we do not provide translations into other languages - that is what the other Wikipedias are for.  The only exceptions are articles that have a non-English subject where the name may also be given in the original language as well as English in the lede paragraph.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  00:29, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * thank, but my question was: how to make decision on tecnical or consensus questions. --Caceo (talk) 00:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC) - I apologize for "nationalistic" referred to wikipedians, I want refer to posture that seem to me so, because on defence of pure english language. Thank you --Caceo (talk) 01:02, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As I said, the first step is to discuss the issue on the article talk page with the aim of reaching consensus. This is usually the only step required, most editors here are open to reasoned debate.  It is the wrong attitude to be thinking in terms of dispute resolution this early, that just polarises people and shuts down debate.  Wikipedia is a collaborative project and only works properly when editors can work together in a collegiate atmosphere. Sometimes of course, there will be times when outside help is needed, I don't think you are there yet but to answer your question; you can read about the options at Dispute resolution.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  06:37, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I tank you very very much for a huge good help. Ciao --Caceo (talk) 00:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Historical edits on a specific section
How can I view historical edits on a specific section or paragraph of an article? Is there any way besides using the article-wide diff on the "Revision history" page? (I think it can sometimes be helpful to see what people have added/removed/contested before trying to make an edit myself...)

Also, a semi-related question: are revision histories permanent? Or will old edits eventually be erased?

Thanks! 24.0.94.81 (talk) 23:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * There is no way of filtering just the edits of one section. It would not be very easy for the software to do that, article structure changes - headings are deleted, created, renamed, sections of text move location - and often editors edit more than one section in a single edit.  However, if you are trying to find when and who inserted a paticular piece, this tool, Wikiblame, might be helpful.
 * The history is permanent, even deleted edits are still visible to administrators.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  00:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm glad the history is preserved. Thanks again. Any chance you can look at my follow-up questions above ? You've been very helpful and I certainly appreciate it. 24.0.94.81 (talk) 13:10, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

tecnical or consensus questions
Please how to make decision on tecnical or consensus questions ?
 * If i think that a question is tecnical shall I ask to an administrator ?
 * If i think that a question is of consensus with other wikipedians, what can I do to resolve it ? --Caceo (talk) 00:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Answered above in News Corporation post.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  06:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Improving a weak redirect
Chicken à la King redirects to Chicken (food), which has no information on the recipe. One who clicks Chicken à la King would surely rather read List of foods named after people, where the recipe's origin (but not its ingredients) is explained and cited. Most people would never find this information. I want to help make it visible but my options leave me unsure:

1. I could import the information into a new section of Chicken (food).

2. I could redirect Chicken à la King to List of foods named after people.

3. I could kill the redirect and fill out Chicken à la King solely with the information from List of foods named after people.

With what rules or criteria does one determine the best action? Thanks! JoeFelice (talk) 02:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Provided you have sufficient references to meet the general notability guideline and you can write it without it becoming a recipe/how to, I think 3. would be the preferred course. – ukexpat (talk) 02:39, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

2 articles in user space
Is it possible to have 2 articles in your user space?1027E (talk) 05:09, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes. You can create subpages and keep any number of articles in them. But they should not be in violation of our userpage guidelines. See here for instructions on creating one.  C h a m a l  talk 05:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Digital References
I am working on an article of a playwright who died in 1994. There are not a lot of digital references: Intute Arts and Humanities and a 20 minutes lasting program on Dutch television. I have a posters, flyers and reviews that I scanned but that are not digitally accessible. How can get the article in Wikipedia and keep it in? 1027E (talk) 05:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * References don't always have to be accessible online. You can use offline references too. See Citing sources and Reliable sources. However, if the subject is notable, it's likely that there will be sufficient online sources as well.  C h a m a l  talk 05:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

CD reissues and expanded editions
Are expanded editions of studio albums suitable for inclusion in a band's discography? I've checked a few entries and can't seem to find any but want a second opinion. Razmagaz (talk) 11:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Unless and until someone comes up with a response here (not an area on which I'm knowledgeable, I'm afraid) you could try asking at the talk page of the article you're proposing to add to as well. Alternatively, someone at Wikiproject Music might be able to help. Gonzonoir (talk) 22:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My take would be that expanded/special editions warrant a mention on the original album's page, unless they are completely notable on their own. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh no.
My page is deleted after watching an episode of "LOST" instead of 70/4 birthday static.Is LOST An episode or an TV show?--Brent camp (talk) 20:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you are referring to the article Stop Motion Director, it was redirected by I42 with the reason, "Existing article non-sensical. Valid redirect, though." If you think he was incorrect in doing this, I would suggest you let him know on his talk page.  LOST is a TV show.  Any other questions? let me know !    Fl ee tf la me   21:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Cartoons In the 70s and 80s to the 2000s
what cartoon?what year? do you watch on TV? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brent camp (talk • contribs) 22:05, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Your question is a little unclear. This page is intended to help new contributors learn how to use Wikipedia; do you have a question relating to that? Gonzonoir (talk) 22:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

adding a city in the main caption box
I wanted to add a city where a protest has occurred in the main caption box in the page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Iranian_election_protests

However, I wanted to cite this properly. For almost all of the cities already listed, there are not citations near them. Where are you supposed to put the citation?

SlaterDeterminant (talk) 00:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidently there is only one city listed that has a citation: Bucharest. If you are adding a city, just place your citation just after the city name, like that one.  Simply put it in " " tags and it will be placed in order in the "References" section.  Any other questions?  let me know !    Fl ee tf la me   01:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I took a glance at the article and it seems that the others are given in the main text of the article (with references). Bucharest, which is not given in the main text, is given only in the infobox and referenced there. You can ask at the article talk page that you are suggesting to add the city to the article (give your reference as well) and decide where it would be best to place it.  C h a m a l  talk 01:25, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

What to do about those who deliberately post misinformation out of malice?
There are several instances when people post misinformation out of malice. What to do about it? Correcting doesn't help because the person posting misinformation has an agenda and therefore deletes any correction. Frustrated.

DieWahrheitBitte —Preceding unsigned comment added by DieWahrheitBitte (talk • contribs) 03:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but you'll have to be more specific. Someguy1221 (talk) 09:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you can show that the information posted is indeed incorrect (by supporting the correct version with reliable sources), then you're halfway home. It's very hard to argue with facts. If discussing the issue on the article's talk page doesn't help, you can pursue dispute resolution. Of course, if the misinformation is simple vandalism, then you can report the user to this noticeboard. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Questions from Chenniparambath
Sense organs in human beings Can we smell out our family members from a dark room.Chenniparambath (talk) 08:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC) (we know a human baby can identify the smell of its mother.) At what point of time does a human baby during its growth to adulthood lose this faculty.Chenniparambath (talk) 08:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC) Have we explored smells capable of wild responses from sexual pairs (armpits etc).Chenniparambath (talk) 08:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC) How does a human mother during her pregnancy know that the baby growing in her womb requires a particular mineral and that she asks for a fruit/food item rich in that mineral.Chenniparambath (talk) 08:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC).What chemical processes are at work.Chenniparambath (talk) 08:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC) Does this not the mean that "Knowledge is within".Chenniparambath (talk) 08:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC) Can a human baby swim soon after its birth.If not, why.Chenniparambath (talk) 08:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC) Is grey hair a message that the individual is past prime.Chenniparambath (talk) 08:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

two questions regarding wikitable-layout and counters
1) I have a long wikitable with 6 columns. Is there a possibility to get the columns aligned specifically without spend an extra align in each cell? Say, 1 colmn left, 2. colum, center, 3 colmn right, e.t.c. I know the e.g. style="text-align:right" for aligning all cells by default e.g. right.

2) Is there a possibility to get counters? So a template:Count which on each call increases by 1 and returns this value as a numerical string (perhaps even with an initialization value)? I only found fixed variables in Wikipedia, but not user-definable variables.

Thanks for your help in advance, Achim1999 (talk) 09:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you tried Help:Table and its talk page? – ukexpat (talk) 14:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I tried, read two times carefully the Help:Table but not the help Talk:Table page. But I already have asked two other users on WP, but got no response. Achim1999 (talk) 16:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I just checked the help Talk:Table. There is a section, entitled How do i centre whole columns in a table? containing only this question. Sadly no answer given since February 2009. :-( Achim1999 (talk) 16:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In that case, the technical section of the Village Pump or the main Help Desk may be the best places to ask. – ukexpat (talk) 16:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Deletion template
I have seen a deletion template for fixed articles that had copyright issues. I asks an admin to delete out copyright revisions back to a specific point after someone edits out the copyright material, but I cannot seem to find now. Any know what I am talking about?? Thanks! Click23 (talk) 13:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Copyvio-histpurge? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That is it. Thanks!  Click23 (talk) 14:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Deleting Content
Can i delete any of the content that I have added at anytime? Im also in the process of writing information on some companys. If i find content to not be accurate or true do I just follow the steps listed on the vandelism FAQ page?Joethistle (talk) 18:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It depends. If you create an article and you are the only contributor to it, you can request deletion with the db-author template. If you are talking about material you have added to an existing article, you should make sure it's accurate and sourced before you add it. If you later find it to be inaccurate, delete it, but explain in your edit summary what you have done and why, and maybe even leave a message to that effect on the article's talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 19:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

electricity
what was the first town to get electricity in the united states —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.59.42.233 (talk) 23:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess it will depend on how much is required before saying the town got electricity. History of electrical engineering says: "In 1882 Edison switched on the world's first large-scale electrical supply network that provided 110 volts direct current to fifty-nine customers in lower Manhattan."
 * Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:39, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


 * But note, we don't do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 01:03, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * "Get electricity" is vague and not specific. Some towns had Arc lights before Thomas Edison turned on his power plant in New York City in 1882, but that is probably the best answer. Menlo Park, New Jersey had electricity in terms of street lights and light bulbs in some buildings as a demonstration before that, in December 1879 . Edison (talk) 19:20, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

How to remove an advert warning placed on an entry
I've been working on an entry and when I initially set it up, an 'advert' warning was put on the entry. Since then I have worked to improve the neutrality of the piece and am wondering how to check back with Wiki editors to find out if the entry meets neutrality standards and if the {{advert... warning can be removed? (entry is "Americas United Bank") Belladawn (talk) 18:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll go through the article and try to weed out the promotional text....also, you have references, but no citations - adding those may help. I'll do that too, and we'll see if it has a better tone then.    Fl ee tf la me   18:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick help - still new at this. I'm assuming the entry was deleted? Should I start over from scratch? Belladawn (talk) 21:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Going through the article, I see it appears most of the text was simply copied from the sources. This is not allowed on Wikipedia.  Please see Copyright violations for more information.  We'll have to rewrite the article from the sources now.    Fl ee tf la me   19:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was deleted. We cannot allow copyvios (copyright violations) to remain on Wikipedia.  I kept the list of sources here, and I'm trying to fish out whatever information we can keep (the infobox, for example).  The rest will just have to be rewritten out of the sources.  I'm willing to help if you want me to.    Fl ee tf la me   00:08, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Understood, didn't realize I'd gone down that path. Thanks for keeping the list, I saw your other message and will retrieve the info and start from scratch. I'll try to do as much as possible, but will probably take you up on your offer of help soon. thanks so much. Belladawn (talk) 18:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Notability local or universal?
If something is considered "notable" on, say, Dutch Wikipedia, or Spanish Wikipedia, is it therefore automatically notable on English Wikipedia as well? (And vice versa.) --88.110.22.71 (talk) 09:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In short, no. Notability guidelines are created by each project independently. There tend to be considerable similarities amongst the notability guidelines of the more mature Wikipedias, but they are not identical, and no Wikipedia is bound by decisions made on another. Someguy1221 (talk) 10:19, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * But notice that notability per se does carry over - the different Wikipedia editions differ by language. If there are multiple independent sources for a topic in Chinese, those are in principle fine to establish notability for the English language Wikipedia. In practice, of course, there is a significant WP:BIAS. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 13:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikilinking citations
Are there certain parts of citations that should generally not be wikilinked, apart from the dates? How about the city (it rarely seems linked)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.94.81 (talk) 12:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The relevant guideline's at WP:OVERLINK: "Provide links that aid navigation and understanding, but avoid cluttering the page with obvious, redundant and useless links." Ask yourself whether reading up more on the word you're considering linking would aid a reader's understanding of the article at hand. For example, does a reader need background information on New York to understand a topic, if New York's only relevance to the topic is that a book about it happened to be published there? Usually not. Gonzonoir (talk) 14:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, that's a good way to put it. Thanks. 24.0.94.81 (talk) 21:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Adding an article when one exists with the same name
I have written an article about Richard L. Hay, a scenic designer. An article already exists with that name. There is a redirect page from Richard Hay to that Richard L. Hay. I've read up on redirecting and disambiguation but still don't know how to handle this. At first I thought I would edit the existing article and add --and a similar one on my new article. But what about the existing redirect page?JanetFA (talk) 15:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * What I'm guessing is that you got confused with redirects. For the redirect to work, the title of your page has to be Richard Hay (American theatre scenic director). Since I'm guessing you can not move pages (change the titles of pages) yet, you should ask another user who can to do it for you, I'll do it if you would like. Mr. Prez (talk) 16:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Would you rename the existing Richard L. Hay page to Richard L. Hay (American geologist)? When I see that's done, I'll post the new one: Richard L. Hay (scenic designer)JanetFA (talk) 17:23, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I would give your new article the title Richard L. Hay (theatre director) (keeping the stuff in brackets as short as possible) and turn the existing redirect page into a disambiguation page. – ukexpat (talk) 16:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I think I understand your suggestion and will try it as soon as the original page is renamed by Mr. Prez.JanetFA (talk) 17:23, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

michelle johnson
I want to be a fan of michelle"s. how do I contaact her?
 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside involvement on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where the asking of knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * We have articles about a few people called Michelle Johnson but we are not connected with them and don't give contact information for subjects of our biographies. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Is deleting an entire section of an article possible?
Dear Wikipedia, I created an account today as a response to reading, for the first time, an entire section within an article that was nothing but personal opinion. Since I have never been inspired to edit a page before, is it ok to go ahead and delete this section entirely or do I have to draw someone else's attention to it to get it removed? Essentially: what is the protocol regarding sections of articles that are plainly nothing but personal opinion with little attempt to disguise it as fact? Pey&#39;j (talk) 13:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It depends on the circumstances. Others might disagree with your evaluation of the section. Many things should be suggested first on the talk page of the article. Some others are OK to delete with an informative edit summary explaining why. Which section is it? Some policies which may be relevant: No original research, Verifiability, Reliable sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Username
Hi, I just created an account and realized that I do not like the username. Is there any way that I can edit the current username?

Thank you! Columbusfoundationacorn (talk) 15:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Changing username says:


 * If you have not made very many edits, please just create a new account and discontinue use of the old one. It does not need to be deleted; disused accounts are harmless and may be safely ignored. This will save you the trouble of submitting a request and waiting for it to be fulfilled. You can copy your old watchlist to your new account.
 * PrimeHunter (talk) 15:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You would probably have been asked to change that username anyway, since it seems to be that of a corporate entity of some sort. -- Orange Mike  |   Talk  16:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

How to correct an article who will be deleted
Hello, I am new in Wikipedia editing. I am working in an Article about an NGO in Ottawa and it is going to be erased because it seem to be like adversting a product. I want to make clear that I am not an employee or even part of this NGO, only a volunteer who wants to put in Wikipedia and article of this organization who helps people with disabilities in Ottawa. I don`t know what I have to do to correct this situation. I really appreciate your help. Alfredo GarciaAlfredo Garcia 18:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:NOTABILITY. We only cover topics which have reasonable, independent secondary sources. If you want to keep an article from being deleted, you need to point out why it is notable, and provide reliable sources to back this claim. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 18:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See also WP:CORP and WP:SPAM. – ukexpat (talk) 19:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

created new page "Maj-General / Air Vice-Marshal" to link to "Air Vice-Marshal"
I wnet through the procedures to redirect a newly created page "Maj-General / Air Vice-Marshal" to link to the already existing page "Air Vice-Marshal". I got a pink response box essentially saying i have to wait for approval. That's fine...I just want to make sure I get help linking those pagesDFKAL (talk) 02:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * We have separate articles for Major General and Air Vice-Marshal. Why do you want this page to direct to Air Vice-Marshal? Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "pink response box". No one has to wait for approval to create a redirect.  C h a m a l  talk 04:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I see you edited Napoleon Ashley-Larsen to list the rank as Maj-General / Air Vice-Marshal. If you want that text to be displayed while actually linking to Air Vice-Marshal then you can make the piped link  which renders as Maj-General / Air Vice-Marshal. I don't see a need for a redirect at Maj-General / Air Vice-Marshal, but exactly how did you try to create the redirect when you got a pink box and what exactly did the box say? Maybe you tried to do something only autoconfirmed users can do, but you shouldn't have to be autoconfirmed to create a redirect. You can just place the code   on Maj-General / Air Vice-Marshal. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

How do I move a new article from my user page to the "live" Wikipedia??
How do I move a new article from my user page to the "live" Wikipedia??

I created an article on my user page first,(I have a user id ), I would now like to move it into the "live" Wikipedia now that it is ready for prime time, how do I move the article into the "live" Wikipedia ?? please answer on my talk page if possible, thank youIndepthmusic (talk) 19:55, 24 June 2009 (UTC) But it's clearly not ready for prime time; you need better citations, formatting in line with the Wikipedia Manual of Style, etc. -- Orange Mike  |   Talk  20:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * User:Indepthmusic/Opafire.   Fl ee tf la me   19:59, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Articles don't need to be "complete" before they can be put into the main namespace. &mdash;harej (talk) 19:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think, though, that the writer would be better off adding citations, curing redlinks, etc., before putting this into mainspace. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Assist me on uploading a document
Dear Wikipedia,

I am Navas Khan from India, i would like to publish an article about a charity group "V-Care V-Share" which we are running in Chennai. Could you please assist me on the same?

Thanks, Navas Khan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sm navaskhan (talk • contribs)
 * It sounds like you are trying to create an article. Before you do, please read our info on what makes a company notable (and thus worthy of inclusion), how to write your first article, and most importantly, our info on conflict of interest. Wikipedia discourages people from writing articles with which they have a close connection, which it sounds like you do. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Solicitation
A Government Solicitation calls for 5052 Aluminum to be empered to H32-H34 per Spec. QQ-A-250/8

I would like the proper procedurer to do this!!

Thanks Don Pritchard   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottdale34 (talk • contribs)
 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside involvement on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where the asking of knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  13:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Victor Antonio
I just post an article Victor Antonio and receive 'met criterion for speedy deletion'. I am a 'motivational speaker' new to Wiki from a contributor's standpoint and didn't think the page was 'self promotional' and just gave my history, books written and movies.

Can you guide me on what I need to to do to make it more wiki friendly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Victorantonio (talk • contribs)
 * Our guide to writing your first article should answer your question. You should also read up on our policy on conflict of interest: it's not a good idea to write an article about yourself. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Your user page is also in breach of the user page guidelines as it is nothing more than an advertisement for your services. It has been tagged for deletion. Please read WP:UP and WP:SPAM. – ukexpat (talk) 14:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

"Favorites" script, or use watchlist?
Is there a script available to add a "favorites" section to my user page, or am I missing something painfully obvious? Or should I just add pages I want to remember to my watchlist? I use several different computers, so would like to have this info portable with my profile.

Thanks, Kiki Weller (talk) 04:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * There is no script for adding favourite articles to your user page. You'll have to do it manually. Adding articles to your watchlist will enable you to keep track of changes to those articles. Both are not saved on your computer and are part of your Wikipedia account. They can be accessed from any computer.  C h a m a l  talk 11:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

New Page
I have created a new page for a non-profit education organization "Parents Without Partners". I got a message stating it's going up for speedy deletion. It is a international organization that serves the single parent family and I included our mission statement as well as our website address.

What else do I have to do to keep this on wikipedia? I feel this is a great source for single parents to find a support organization that will assist them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Squeakyracer (talk • contribs)
 * The editor who tagged the page for deletion left a note on your talk page to explain this: the article, as it stood, apparently didn't explain why the organization was important (I can't see it now, because it's been deleted, and I'm not an admin). You need to indicate why the subjects of articles you create are significant; the best way to do this is by showing they've received recognition and coverage in independent, reliable sources. To avoid speedy deletion, an article just needs to make a plausible claim that its subject is important, but our more stringent deletion processes, Proposed deletion and Articles for Deletion, may also delete an article that doesn't demonstrate notability - i.e., that doesn't cite coverage of the article's subject in reliable sources. The links on your user talk page, on notability and writing your first article, explain this in more detail. Please take a look at those, and let us know if you have any more questions. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Infogain Wiki
I am unable to understand which section of my artcile is not acceptable? Infogain Corporation (talk) 11:33, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The tag itself on the Infogain page gives the answer. It has been tagged for speedy deletion for "unambiguous advertising or promotion" (CSD G11). Wikipedia is not a place for advertising and articles should give only facts in an encyclopedic nature. Also, the article does not show any notability of the subject.  C h a m a l  talk 11:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In addition, your user name is a blatant spamname and has been reported to WP:UAA. – ukexpat (talk) 14:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Username blocked. – ukexpat (talk) 15:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

The Junior Farmer Field and Life Schools (JFFLS)
Wikipedia's New contributors' help page only answers questions about Wikipedia. Mr. Prez (talk) 14:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (Blanked content that copyviolates http://fex.ennonline.net/29/juniorfarmer.aspx) Gonzonoir (talk) 14:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Catalino Women
Sections grouped for ease of reading.  Fl ee tf la me   01:52, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

how will i make my article acceptable to wikipedia? --Jmaagad (talk) 15:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See below... – ukexpat (talk) 17:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

how will i make my article acceptable to wikipedia?Jmaagad (talk) 15:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The organization would have to be already notable enough to be included in an encyclopedia. Instead, you yourself admitted on the talk page of the article that "we would like to make the project known to the public." This is called "promotion" and is not permitted here. The articles Catalino Women Association, Inc. and Catalino Women Association have been deleted. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  17:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Picture Licencing Question
I got this picture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OpenHouse60s.jpg#file)...I got the picture from this site: http://www.nmjc.edu/aboutnmjc/history.asp. I do believe that this photo was taken from the Hobbs News-Sun at some point in time, but not exactly sure when. I do think that it can help a bit with the article. I am just unsure at what license to classify it under. Please help Nemle22 (talk) 06:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * For one thing, I'm afraid you tagged the image incorrectly; a fair-use (non-free) image of this type probably needs the tag.  If possible, you could try to contact the News-Sun and get them to confirm they took the image and release it under the GFDL.  Otherwise, if we can't use it under the fair-use rationale and it's not a free image, we can't use it (but you probably knew that already).  Further questions? let me know!    Fl ee tf la me   02:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

about my pages and allowing me to uplod logog &images
Dear Sirs,

Saudi Commission for Tourism & Antiquates(SCTA) would like to have a wiki pages for it's name as provided below and have the ability to upload our logo and some image regrading our organization, therefore I would like you to make my user Yazeedscta have the leverages on those two pages(Saudi_Commission_for_Tourism_and_Antiquities) & (Saudi_Commission_for_Tourism_%26_Antiquities).

Please if you any information or any concern you can reach me at:

Yazeed K. Almarshoud eSolutions - IT Dep. Saudi Commission for Tourism & Antiquities Riyadh, Saudi Arabia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yazeedscta (talk • contribs)


 * Your article was deleted as a copyright violation. Please see WP:IOWN for assistance with releasing copyright materials for use on Wikipedia. – ukexpat (talk) 15:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * [[Image:AROBAZE.png|20px]] Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet.  The details have been removed, but if you want them to be permanently removed from the page history, please email [mailto:oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org].  You also posted your email and telephone on your user page; please see Personal information.  We cannot allow this information to remain on Wikipedia.  Further questions?  let me know!    Fl ee tf la me   16:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

how do i make a new page?
how do i make a new page? there is a young enterprise company which i think should be on here

thanks, jaanki Jaankik (talk) 13:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 13:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Kingdom Dominion
I have a question. I was working on a new article about Kingdom Dominion. I am a new user. I want to write the article and open the discussion regarding the information about the facts pertaining to current developments in Christian world. I am a first time user and would like to contribute to wikipedia. How can I go about doing it. Ajay 19:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajayphillips (talk • contribs)
 * Since you've recently written Kingdom Dominion and Kingdom dominion, as well as The Apostolic Reformation, all of which have been speedily deleted, I think you should probably devote some time to carefully reading Your first article along with the pages you'll find linked therein. Pay particular attention to WP:SPAM, WP:N, and the various sections of WP:NOT. At this point, it might be a good idea to consider creating the article first in your user space and ask other editors to help you work on it. Deor (talk) 20:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

URLs for cited books
When providing an optional URL for a cited book:
 * Is it appropriate to link to a book's "free preview" on Google Books?
 * Is there any recommendation for/against Worldcat links?
 * Would it generally be acceptable to replace an existing Worldcat link with a Google Books link, since the latter gives instant access to the text? Or is this something that should be discussed on the talk page first?

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.94.81 (talk) 09:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of any specific policy for or against either Google Books or Worldcat. We have templates you can use to link to titles on both services: Template:Worldcat and Template:Google books. I tend to link to Google Books copies of texts copiously. Depending on the case (which articles are you looking at?), I'd say it's probably a good idea to link to both, rather than replacing Worldcat links with GBooks links. Google Books is a good way to provide instant access to (part of the) text online, but the Worldcat record is then very useful in tracking down the full text. So I'd say be bold and augment the pages by adding Google Books links as well as the Worldcat ones; if anyone objects, then you can move to the talk page and discuss. Gonzonoir (talk) 20:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The best way to link to a book is to use its ISBN number. This is done automagically, for instance ISBN 0838980147. This takes the reader to a page where they can choose to look up the book in a large number of different catalogues, including Google books and World cat.  Some users have priveleged access in certain catalogues, for instance, customers of Amazon books get a "See inside" feature that is often better than Google preview.  I also personally think relying on Google books (or any other site) for a preview is a bad idea, if that site shuts down that then leaves our refs as dead links.  Sp in ni  ng  Spark  20:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your responses. Since I don't have a particular article in mind, let's say a hypothetical article contains the following citation:

And, let's pretend there's a controversial claim in the article, so I'd like to provide the following URL (direct link to p. 81 on Google Books) for readers to check the cited source:

Question: How would I, following Gonzonoir's suggestion, provide both Google Books and Worldcat links when using the cite book template? Please use the above code to demonstrate, as appending either the GBooks or Worldcat templates seems to look too... wordy.

SpinningSpark – When the ISBN is already automagically linked (as above), would you say that the convenience of one-click access to the cited passage (via Google Books) is worth the potential risk of a dead link?

Other questions:
 * It seems that most citations do not Wikilink the city – is this not recommended?
 * Is it possible to perform a site-wide search of article source code, e.g., to find examples of particular templates in action?

Thanks! 24.0.94.81 (talk) 16:28, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Here's an attempt to answer my own question. When using "cite book" or similar templates, set:
 * isbn = ISBN
 * oclc = Worldcat ID
 * url = direct link to text (if using Google Books, &pg=PA# can be used to jump to a specific page)
 * This seems to be the most concise method, rather than using both Template:Worldcat and Template:Google books...
 * Note to SpinningSpark – I think you were saying that one should at least provide an ISBN – if you meant that one should only provide an ISBN, please let me know.
 * 24.0.94.81 (talk) 21:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delayed reply: your suggested solution looks very sound to me. And you're right, it's at least not only an ISBN. The Gbooks and Worldcat templates are, I think, primarily intended for the External Links section of an article; within, your suggestion is entirely appropriate. Good work! Gonzonoir (talk) 10:02, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Copyviol?
I think this is a copyviol or something similar, cause appear some numbers such as " [29] ", that are related to a "paste&copy" procedure (perhaps from an other wikipedia's page?). --Aushulz (talk) 02:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you're right: It was copied and pasted from Wikipedia's article Polyvinyl chloride (see ). Unfortunately, it happened over a year ago, which could make this a bit of a headache from a GFDL compliance perspective. I'll go and try to find out what we should do about it. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've asked] over at the more heavily-trafficked help desk. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, per Teratornis's suggestion over at the Help Desk, I've added a note to the article's talk page giving notice of the copy from Polyvinyl chloride. I've also now brought over the references from Polyvinyl chloride to replace those numbers in the text, so it's properly referenced again. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:00, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Misspelled searches
I have just contributed an article on the painter T'ang Haywen. A common misspelling of his name is Tang Haywen, but of course if you type that in as a search you don't get a result. Is there any way that searchers can be given a suggestion if they type in a "near miss" like that? Kurov (talk) 05:51, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup, if you create a page called Tang Haywen, and enter this code:  then anyone who misspells it in a search will be redirect immediately SpitfireTally-ho! 06:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

comparativ study in convent &nonconvent schools of bhandara
sir' i am planning to write an artical comparing study of convent(private english medium)schools with that of government'municipal schools of bhandara district.how can i  find related litrature in wikipedia. kindly guide me in this regard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharda pali (talk • contribs) 16:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. – ukexpat (talk) 14:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Hewell AKL14
You state the Hewell returned to Pearl Harbor dry dock in June of 1953 when she in fact entered dry dock in Yokosuka Japan on April 10th 1953 and remained there until June 10th moving to Taura Japan on that date and on to Ulsan Korea on th 14/15th.She stayed in the far east until sometime in 1954. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.51.244.150 (talk) 16:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Please discuss this issue on the talk page(s) of the relevant article(s). You will need reliable sources to support any changes. – ukexpat (talk) 18:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Wait time for confirmation from editors
I was curious to make a style change on how an article was presented, and as such posted the suggestion on the discussion page. How long is it appropriate to wait for other editors to have a chance to look at the proposal before going ahead and making the changes? I ask this due to the Manual of Style stating:

"Do not change from one style to another unless there is substantial reason for the change, and consensus for the change with other editors."

Thanks! --DMBradbury (talk) 23:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, that's up to you. I would wait a week or so probably, and if no one has commented then, nobody must care.  For more information on consensus, see Consensus.  Further questions?  let me know!    Fl ee tf la me   23:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Assuming that your question is related to your edit here, I'd say that there's no compelling reason for the change. The guideline you quoted (WP:ERA) says elsewhere that "no preference is given to either style," and the usual practice in such situations is to stick with the style established by the previous editors. In any event, it's an incredibly unimportant point to worry about. Deor (talk) 22:05, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Talking?
How do you talk to editors that would like to dispute your work, to defend it?Niljay (talk) 04:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)Niljay
 * Each article has a talk page where issues related to the article can be discussed. At the top of each page, look for the "talk" tab. This is the best place to discuss what should and should not be in an article. If someone is disputing what you are adding, be sure to support your position with reliable sources. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Depending on your user settings, the "talk" tab may be labelled "discussion". – ukexpat (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

How to replace an old url with the new url globally in all pages not manually
Hai,

I need to replace old url with new url in each page. I dont want to do it manually. I want to change globally in all pages whereever the old one is there. i.e for example : Replace http://www.doc.com with http://www.document.com

I am in need of doing the updates in Wiki where i am working at the client side, i have no permissions for changing it globally with any script. so, right now i am updating manually. Can u suggest me how to update old url with new url globally so that it will redirect to the new one in all wiki pages whereever it exist.

With Regards, Chaitanya. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anvkc (talk • contribs) 10:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I see you have deleted an old section with replies. This page is a place to get help with editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. It is still unclear to me whether you are asking about Wikipedia or another wiki. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia located at the website wikipedia.org like this page. Many other wikis are made with the same MediaWiki software as Wikipedia but are othwerwise unrelated to Wikipedia. Are you asking about pages at wikipedia.org or not? If it's not then possible ways depend on details at whatever wiki it is, but we may have no inside knowledge of that. And questions about the MediaWiki software but not about Wikipedia should be asked at other sites, for example mw:Project:Support desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I suspect that it may be neither, it might need a Wikipedia Bot. I'm not sure where you would ask about that -- Q Chris (talk) 14:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I suggested a bot and the editor who posted the question blanked the section, so I took that as a "no thanks" :) In any case, it would be helpful to know what URLs you want to change. A bot would be a good idea if there are lots of edits to make, but the work required to get one approved might not be worthwhile if there's only a few cases to change. Gonzonoir (talk) 14:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Changing the content of wiki page dynamically
Hello I was looking for it on google then on wiki. I dont think its available but I still have to ask. Can you alter the wiki page by script, or any other remote way? FYI I want to update my wiki not the world wide. I presume there is no option like that for wikipedia.org cuz of spammers etc. But for your own one? Regards MarcinGottimw (talk) 11:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure about what you are asking. However, if you have your own wiki, then the MediaWiki support desk may be able to assist you. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: how to contribute information and edit or enhance a page.
Good Morning,

I am a community relations person for an agency that is on wikipedia. Our agency is concerned that the most pertinent information listed at the top of the article are comments made by the media about past history of the agency - most of which was considered inflammatory. We wanted at the very least to enhance the page with the most recent website link which I was able to update and some of the inflammatory information we wanted to edit and add at least the most recent information about the agency. Additionally, we want to add FACTUAL historical information about the timelines and agency development over the past 125 years. However, I have tried to add these features and it keeps being returned that this information is a copyright issue and I am not understanding how this can be when this information is in print for our agency as well as on our public website. Can someone please get back to me about what needs to be done. Our administration would like this handled. Thanks, Bonickp (talk) 15:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC) — Bonickp (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * OK couple of points. As you appear to have a conflict of interest you should go to the talk page of the relevant article and post there a note about the changes that you think should be made. You will need to supply reliable sources to support them. If you want to release copyright materials for use on Wikipedia, please follow the process set out at WP:IOWN. I have posted a welcome message on your talk page with links to a number of Wikipedia policies and guidelines. – ukexpat (talk) 15:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You may also want to read Wikipedias copyright policy. Even though your press releases have been published on your website, the website carries a copyright mark right at the bottom (© 2009 Maryville Academy 1150 N River Road, Des Plaines, IL 60016) which means material copied from there isn't usable in Wikipedia mainspace. Livewireo (talk) 15:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It can be released for use on Wikipedia by following the WP:IOWN process. – ukexpat (talk) 15:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)