Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/Archive/2011/October

= October 1 =

false accusation
I did one revert, and then add two refs. This is the only revert I have every done. An admin come and gave me a formal warning for edit warring. This happened in mid august 2011, I have tried talking to the editor in question 3 times on their talk page requesting they change their comment or explain how I was edit warring. To date they won't reply about the edit warring part of their warning. I feel having an unjustified warning about edit warning on my talk page is like having a black mark against me. Where do I go to have this remedied? ?oygul (talk) 04:22, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Adding images
How do you add an image to a Wikipedia article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.112.119.165 (talk) 16:05, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * There are a few ways, what image are you trying to place, into what article ?  Mlpearc   powwow  16:24, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You should find an answer here: Picture tutorial.  Mlpearc   powwow  16:31, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

talking to someone
I'd like to leave someone a message but there is no edit button on their talk page. HOw can I talk to them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.88.11.143 (talk) 23:28, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Which page is it? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:39, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AnonMoos 174.88.11.143 —Preceding undated comment added 02:12, 2 October 2011 (UTC).


 * That page is not protected so you can edit it. There is a glitch where unregistered users will sometimes see no edit links on an unprotected page. If this happens then click the "View source" tab at top to edit the whole page, or purge the page which should make the normal edit links. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:32, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! (talk) (don't know how to make it date) —Preceding undated comment added 13:10, 2 October 2011 (UTC).


 * If you are saying that you don't know how to finish a talk page message with a signature with name and date, the answer is to put 4 tildes ~, or use the signature button in the toolbar above the edit window. In contrast, 3 tildes give your name and no date; 5 tildes  give date and no name. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:53, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 2 =

username appears in search
Why does the search show Usernamemississanne/Anne Abernathy rather than just the author's name Anne Abernathy? And can the middle name be added - Finch = Anne Finch Abernathy

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.110.47.127 (talk) 00:24, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I guess you refer to the user page User:Mississanne/Anne Abernathy, "Miss Anne". Are you the user Mississanne? Are you Anne Abernathy? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:43, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Because the page has been created as a user sub-page, which is the recommended way to do it. See WP:SYMUD for how to move it to article space: but do not do so yet, because it is nowhere near ready. If you attempt to do so, it will certainly be deleted because it does not contain a single citation to a reliable source; and in particular it does not contain the multiple citations which are required in order to establish that the subject of an article is notable. For biographies of living people we are especially concerned that everything in them be cited to a reliable source.
 * If the article is edited to include these citations (and some other problems of formatting and wikilinking) it may then be moved, almost certainly to Miss Anne, because Wikipedia's manual of style says that the title of an article should be the most familiar or widespread name by which it is known.
 * PrimeHunter's question as to whether your are Anne Abernathy is important because if you are, you have a conflict of interest, and should read that link before doing any more work on the article. --ColinFine (talk) 22:16, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

new article
I have written an article but can't work out how to upload a diagram ---15:37, 2 October 2011 (UTC)Espritdecor (talk) 15:37, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * See Picture tutorial. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:47, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If you are talking about the "article" User:Espritdecor, then please add third party references (explanation how to add at WP:REFB), style it better (explanation at WP:WIKIMARKUP) and don't use the first person! mabdul 12:42, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 3 =

Whether this organisation merits inclusion in Wiki
Good afternoon,

I work for an organisation called AIDS Accountability International and we are similar to Transparency International but just started and still growing. We do unique work on accountability and have had a huge impact in the four years of our existence. Wikipedia has no page that deals specifically with AAI nor accountability wrt healthcare.

However reading your COI info I was advised to ask a Wiki editor for the go-ahead before I create a page on AAI and accountability.

Please advise.

Lillipa (talk) 12:07, 3 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:ORG and WP:COI. The vast majority of organisations are not sufficiently notable to have an article in Wikipedia. We strongly discourage users with a conflict of interest from creating articles about subjects where they have a conflict of interest. – ukexpat (talk) 16:13, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Editors editing articles
Hello, I am looking to write an article on Rockford First Church. I haven't posted the article yet, because the last time I tried there were many revisions and such that needed to be done. I was able to tweak the article. I was wondering if there was a way to have someone look over the article and work with me to get everything in order. That way I don't loose the work that I have done on there. Thank you and let me know. Amandaallard05 (talk) 19:51, 3 October 2011 (UTC)


 * WP:Requests for feedback is the place to go. – ukexpat (talk) 20:45, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 4 =

How to have a change replace the incorrect information
I read the entry for Helen Lemme and found some incorrect information. I clicked on edit and made a correction. I saved that correction. Now when I look up Helen Lemme, I see both the incorrect entry and my corrected entry. How do I get the bad entry to go away.

My name is: Paul Lemme  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.144.175 (talk) 13:09, 4 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I've reverted your edits so that you can start again. It looks as if you'd copied the visible page and pasted it in after the existing wiki source.  Next time, jut click the edit button and change the existing wiki source. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:20, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Given your name and the name of the article in question, I'd ask that you please also be aware of our rules about conflict of interest and autobiography. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  16:29, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't see that WP:AUTOBIO can be relevant, Mike, but you are right about WP:COI. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:45, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I feel that writing about one's momma or granddaddy also falls under AUTOBIO; but that may be my country sense of family as almost part of one's self. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  17:14, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Use the "Edit" tab at top of the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:39, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 5 =

Source Material.
Sir. 1. Please let me know if the handouts/pamphlets given out by various State Government Tourism Departments can be considered as source material, almost none of them have references. 2.If they can be used as source material, how and where can I send soft copies of such handouts/ pamphlets. Kindly notify on talk page. Thanks. PM Velankar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmvelankar (talk • contribs) 00:37, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I would be very cautious about using such materials as sources; they are advertising, not scholarly in intention or design, and can often propogate attractive myths. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:27, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh and please read WP:REFB and WP:WIKIMARKUP. mabdul 12:53, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Macedonian translation
I have master thesis in the field of information retrieval. I have used Wikipedia 2008 document collection from INEX organization. It was on English language and with XML structure.

I wonder, if there is a way to get the Wikipedia document collection in Macedonian language for the purpose of my master thesis.

Best regards,

88.85.98.130 (talk) 07:05, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I suggest you ask at mk:Википедија:Портал/Помош. But be aware that if they have any such collection, it is likely to be a collection of information from the mk Wikipedia, not translations of the English documents. --ColinFine (talk) 18:31, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Marian Spencer
Hello: I was wondering why my article regarding Marian Spencer was determined to be an Ohio politician stub instead of just an Ohio politician article. I looked at the page regarding what makes an article a stub, and I feel that it could definitely go either way, but that it is better developed than some articles that were not deemed stubs. I would like this to be answered on my talk page. Thanks, User Revilos1 Revilos1 (talk) 22:20, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I have removed the stub category. I suspect the stub category was not intentional and have asked the editor at User talk:Housewatcher. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:02, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 6 =

A Suggested Article
There's an international "Pioneer Little Europe Movement" now, which was inspired by an 86 page e-book prospectus.

As it now has activists in Kalispell, Montana; the United Kingdom, and Australia, could someone there include some details on it?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.122.53.241 (talk) 11:21, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The fact that a Google search for the phrase come up with only 3 hits might suggest that it is not sufficiently notable to justify a Wikipedia article. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:25, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

adding a reference
Hello:

Re: the name "Lorelei"

Under the "References in works of art" section I would like to add "Canadian band Southern Star released a song called Lorelei on their 2011 album, and the following MP3 link:

http://www.southernstarmusic.com/pages/lorelei.html

How do I do this?

Thank you

Southernstarmusic (talk) 16:22, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * To judge from the account name you have chosen, you are here to promote your own band. This is not allowed at Wikipedia. For a more detailed explanation please look at the FAQ page for organisations. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:11, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You don't. We call that spamming, and it's regarded as a form of vandalism, since your purpose is to publicize your band, not to improve the encyclopedia. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  21:32, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You don't. We call that spamming, and it's regarded as a form of vandalism, since your purpose is to publicize your band, not to improve the encyclopedia. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  21:32, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 7 =

More efficient learning
Do you think it would make spreading knowledge (what this website is about) much easier if for each of the hyperlinked words throughout an article, a brief definition and/or description popped up while hoovering over the link? Just a suggestion, seeing as most of what I'm Interested in and researching, I really don't know what half the terms in the article actually mean. Who wants to open a new page every other sentence they read to actually understand what they're reading? Just a suggestion :)

- 70.44.164.48 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:52, 6 October 2011 (UTC).
 * This is already available. If you register an account and log in, you can enable "Navigation popups" in your preferences. Try it! -- John of Reading (talk) 10:04, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh, nice! sorry for wasting your time :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.164.48 (talk) 08:28, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem! -- John of Reading (talk) 09:58, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

How can I self certify or gain assistance to certify my own researched input into an article I wish to edit. Historical.
I have been researching historical and geological matteres on the Rotomahana complex for about 12 years. A lot of the data I wish to submit may have to be in the third person mode can I have assistance to complete this project. I feal I need a peer to assist with referencing. Herbyfitz (talk) 23:04, 6 October 2011 (UTC)


 * You need to read WP:OR. The short answer is that if your research has been published in a reliable source you can reference it;  if not, then it is not acceptable in Wikipedia. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:19, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply david.My work has been over a ten year period and the time consuming part has been in field work. I have established a web page with results and references to others research work. I intend to pubish a book in the near future.I am tryig to enlighten others to my research results i wikipedia without including personal data which belongs in my book.I note that when I hover near reference points I have inserted that the note advises that I am unknown.Does this mean the article or comment is under threat of removal? Hoping you can help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Herbyfitz (talk • contribs) 08:10, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you read the link David gave you? When your research has been published in a reliable source (which probably means a refereed journal, or a book published by a reputable publisher), it can be summarised in Wikipedia, citing the publication. Until then, you are welcome to add information from your research which comes directly from your reliable sources, citing them, but you may not include or link to any of your own arguments or conclusions. --ColinFine (talk) 10:57, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 8 =

Maths question
Is 1 + 2cosAcosBcosC is equal to -cosAcosA -cosBcosB -cosCcosC OR -1 + 2cosAcosBcosC is equal to -cosAcosA -cosBcosB -cosCcosC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.228.19.187 (talk) 08:15, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think one of these is correct, and you can find out which it is by trying, say, A=90 B=45 C=45. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:21, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Kevin Richardson
In kevin richardson's profile, said: KEVIN REJOINED THE BAND"

Why dont you edit in backstreet boys biography that he rejoined the band 49.14.198.112 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:48, 8 October 2011 (UTC).
 * The Richardson article seems to say that he rejoined only for the one performance in July 2011, is that right? You would be welcome to add that to the Backstreet Boys article, provided you can find a reliable source such as a news report to back it up. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:54, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The Richardson article seems to say that he rejoined only for the one performance in July 2011, is that right? You would be welcome to add that to the Backstreet Boys article, provided you can find a reliable source such as a news report to back it up. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:54, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The Richardson article seems to say that he rejoined only for the one performance in July 2011, is that right? You would be welcome to add that to the Backstreet Boys article, provided you can find a reliable source such as a news report to back it up. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:54, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Translation into Georgian
I speak several languages - Georgian, Russian, Ukrainian, etc. When there is no article in Georgian language, how could I post translation of English articles in Georgian language? - I'd like to contribute such translations

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikusa (talk • contribs) 14:31, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that would be great. You will need to find some instructions at the Georgian-language Wikipedia. If you can't find them, then try asking at the Georgian Wikipedia. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:10, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

disambiguation
Hi

I have been putting together a new page on the writer and historian John McKean - my draft is on my User Page - but there are already a number of entries with this title.

So how do I ensure this guy is disambiguated from the others?

(And if you've any thoughts on how to improve this draft page that'd be great too)

cheers,

Laurie Melville — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurie melville (talk • contribs) 17:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have moved the page to the user subpage User:Laurie melville/John McKean for you. It needs a lot of work before moving to article space: I'll put some information on your talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 17:52, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 9 =

Inclusion of Sub Tribe of Gandapur "Jaffar Zai"
I read the wikipedia Gandapur & I draw your kind attension about the issue and appropriate action and to say that there is sub tribe of Gandapur namely "Jaffar Zai" which is not included in the list. The Jaffar Zai" tribe is also mentioned in the history book "Khursheed-e-Jehan". Kindly include the same in the list and correct the history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.153.0.74 (talk) 15:53, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is created by volunteers, who work on articles that interest them. As nobody has answered you, it appears that there is nobody reading this page (at least this week) that has a particular interest in that article. Your best bet is either to be bold and edit the article yourself, or to bring the subject up on the article's talk page, which is more likely to be seen by people with an interest in the article. If you edit it yourself, you should be prepared to add a citation to a reliable source which confirms the information you are adding. --ColinFine (talk) 21:42, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Genomics Education Partnership Page
My school is a member of the Genomics Education Partnership, which is a fairly large consortium that currently consists of 66 undergraduate institutions. Several of the professors leading this consortium have their own pages (where the consortium is prominently mentioned). Does this pass the notability guidelines, and is it a conflict of interest for me (I'm currently working on a project for this organization) to create an article for the organization? Please respond on my talk page. Pressondude (talk) 03:35, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It is certainly a conflict of interest for you - which doesn't absolutely forbid you from creating the article, but advises strongly against it. As for whether it meets notability criteria, what matters is not whether its professors are notable but whether the organisation itself is notable, i.e. whether it has been written about in multiple independent reliable sources. Please have a look at WP:ORGFAQ. --ColinFine (talk) 21:47, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 10 =

Locomotive types
I looked at the entry for Caledonian Railway Brechin and the list of locomotives gives several, including Harlaxton, as ST (ie Saddle Tank) locos. I know some of the locos are Saddle Tanks, but Harlaxton is a Pannier Tank (the same as Thomas the Tank Engine), and I am fairly sure it is not the only one. I have never attempted an edit before, so would welcome some assistance. 86.186.163.57 (talk) 11:09, 10 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I think you'll find that Harlaxton is a side tank 0-6-0T, not a pannier tank 0-6-0PT. Thomas similarly.  For an indication of the different types, see Tank locomotive.  To edit, hit the edit link at the top of the relevant section of the article, or the edit tab at the top of the article.  Change what needs changing, add an appropriate edit summary in the box below the edit box, "Show preview" to check, then save. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 11 =

How can I answer a question made to my personal talk page?
I recently receive a request for clarification of a change I did. My question is. How can I respond directly to the person who contact me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urbanoc (talk • contribs) 17:35, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You can visit your talk page and click [edit] next to the section you want to respond to. Alternatively, use this link. Goodvac (talk) 17:37, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If somebody left you a message, they will almost certainly have added your talk page to their watch list, so they will see that you have changed it as Goodvac says. --ColinFine (talk) 21:54, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The message at User talk:Urbanoc was left nearly 4 days ago. In such a case it's safer to click the "talk" link to get to the talk page of the other editor: User talk:Britmax. Click the "new section" tab there. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Only the firse
only the firse — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.169.198 (talk) 20:10, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Do you have a question? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 12 =

editing exsiting pages
i want to edit existing page that has factual errors. i have tried it a few times (newbie) yet the page is reverted to the original. how do i change the facts and have it not-reverted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perryrants (talk • contribs) 16:09, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Your edits were inappropriate and were reverted by other editors. See the page history at . "Recreational drug use" has become a fixed term with around 643,000 Google hits. You cannot ignore how lots of reliable sources use the term and just make your own interpretation of the word "recreational" applied to "drug use". It's a similar situation to the fixed meaning of Recreational vehicle (RV). You can make suggestions at Talk:Recreational drug use. Your edits broke several Wikipedia policies and it may be best if you don't edit the article directly before learning more about Wikipedia. Wikipedia reports what verifiable reliable sources say and not what the editors think. See also No original research. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:58, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Editing question
The tutorial mentioned being able to edit without logging in or creating an account. If I do decide to edit, where do I create an account or log in?12.139.186.34 (talk) 16:57, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If you do want to create an account and log in, see WP:LOGIN. If you want to edit without logging in, merely click the edit link at the top of the relevant section of the article you are trying to edit, or click the edit button at the top of the article if you want to edit the first section or more than one section.  If there isn't an edit option, then you may be on one of the minority of articles that has been protected to avoid vandalism. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:12, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 13 =

Link to a wizard or template of some kind
I'd like to contribute to Wikipedia... some day. And recently saw a link to a wizard or template of some kind to help with sticking to the guidelines. But I cannot find it now. Can anybody point me in the right direction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreasharp (talk • contribs) 01:23, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If you have article creation in mind then you may have seen Article wizard. Was that it? It is for example linked from Your first article. There are a lot of policies and guidelines but you don't need to know all of them and they are not generally associated with wizards. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:57, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I hope this is the proper way to reply. Andreasharp (talk) 02:09, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, this is the proper way to reply (you could have added an extra colon for a new indentation level but it's not important). I guess "Thank you" means you are satisfied with the answer. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:31, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

My First Article
Hello,

I am trying to post my first article about Fulbright Belgium, an advising center in Brussels, Belgium that is part of the US State Department. However, whenever I try and post the article, it immediately gets taken down and I am not sure exactly why. I assume it is because a lot of the information from the article is coming from the Fulbright Belgium website. However, there aren't exactly any other sources from which the information can be drawn in order to write a complete and informative article. Can you offer any advice? Is there some other reason that the article is being taken down?

Nathan.rehr (talk) 08:18, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Two, interlocking reasons. First, we can't violate copyright, so we can't use cut-and-paste language taken from the center's own website. More important, to have an article in this encyclopedia, a subject must be notable: must have been substantially written about in other, reliable sources. By your own admission, "there aren't exactly any other sources from which the information can be drawn"; in other words, it isn't notable, hasn't been written about, and thus has no place here. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  14:21, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Frank Sherwin
I would like to correct an error In Frank Sherwin: 'Independent and Unrepentant'. which states that Frank Sherwin joined Fianna Eireann at the age of 18, this leading to certain confusion. He in fact joined Fianna Eireann in 1918 at the age of 13. His date of birth being 6th of October 1905.

Sinceraly,

Frank Sherwin Jnr. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.239.124 (talk) 08:52, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. The chronology in the article did not make sense. I guess you are family and know his history well but Wikipedia requires published verifiable sources for information. I have changed it to "As a teenager" as it said in earlier article version, without specifying the age or year. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:44, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Maaz1999
I have recenty made an article for Vespers Rising (Book 11, 39 clues). I need some help editing it and make it better, so i'am looking for someone to help me with it. I really wanna do the whole page my self, but i need some help with it. I'am also new to wikipedia thats why i have some problems getting around here. Who ever reads this, can you please help me make my page better. though its just a short paragraph but its just a fisrt draft. I only wriiten describbing about the book but is not very much encyclopedia type. Please help me fix it, i really want to write this article on the book. I'll also like to change the name from Vespers Rising (Book 11, 39 clues) to Vespers Rising only, and Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maaz1999 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Your AfC request has been reviewed and turned down. Start by looking at the existing article The 39 Clues and the links from there to articles on the individual books, then you'll see what sort of standard to aim for. Also try reading WP:Tutorial and WP:1st. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Is there a Wikipedia search box?
I would like to add a Wikipedia search box to my browser. This would be similar to the Google search box that appears by default at the top of some browsers. Any information would be appreciated.

3dimen (talk) 20:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If your browser has a Google or other search box with a little arrow pointing down then click the arrow and make sure there isn't already a Wikipedia option. Then look for your browser at Tools/Browser tools. If you don't find something that works then which browser do you have? Are you interested in a second search box in addition to Google, or an option to toggle between Google and Wikipedia in the same box, or only in a box to search Wikipedia? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:41, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you! The Wikipedia box was there all the time, and the little arrow works fine. I guess it is supplied by default with Firefox. The problem was lack of knowledge on the part of the user. 3dimen (talk) 06:26, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 14 =

Same name article
Looking for input ... I want to create an article about a 2010 South African film titled "Eternity." However, this is already a page titled "Eternity (2010 film)" for a Thai film of the same name (the two films are completely unrelated and just coincidentally named the same and released in the same year). So my question is for suggestions of how to title my page for the South African film; should it be "Eternity (2010 South African film)" or is there another standard for this type of issue? Thanks.Bobbyandbeans (talk) 03:19, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Assuming they both satisfy Notability (films), it should indeed be "Eternity (2010 South African film)" per Naming conventions (films). Then the current Eternity (2010 film) can be moved to "Eternity (2010 Thai film)". PrimeHunter (talk) 04:46, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks.Bobbyandbeans (talk) 04:49, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 15 =

How to get a User blocked for repeated vandalism after repeated warnings?
I've had to revert/delete repeated vandalism by User:Brechbill123.

Example: they keep inserting Nazi-biased photos and inaccurate info into History of feminism, and other feminist-related articles. They are persistent in putting "politely" racist remarks into many articles about black history that get reverted by other editors as good faith edits... going back over the user's edit history, they have a long pattern of this. I've put vandalism warnings on their user talk page, so have other editors, User:Brechbill123 deletes them and adds more vandalism.

So now what? Is there a forum for requesting that this user be blocked from these articles? I'm not clear on where to go to request this type of action.

Thanks,

OttawaAC (talk) 02:47, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That would be Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  21:08, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

lupeol from the ripe fruits of Rauvolfia tetraphylla
Brahmachari et al.,2011 reported the occurrence of a pentacyclic triterpenoid, lupeol from the ripe fruits of Rauvolfia tetraphylla for the first time. ref: Lupeol, a pharmaceutically potent triterpenoid, from the ripe fruits of Rauvolfia tetraphylla L. (Apocynaceae) Goutam Brahmachari*,Lalan C. Mandal, Rajiv Roy, Shyamal K. Jash, Avijit Mondal, Sasadhar Majhi and Dilip Gorai, Journal of Indian Chemical Society, 2011, 88, 303-305  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.180.156.252 (talk) 16:20, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It sounds as if you want this information added to Lupeol or to Rauvolfia tetraphylla, or perhaps to both. I was going to add it to lupeol, but I realised that I don't know enough about the subject to know whether or not it is significant: perhaps there are many sources of lupeol and there is no point in mentioning another one. So I have copied your comment to the talk page Talk:Lupeol. If you think that this is significant for one or both of the articles, please add it (and see existing references in the article for how to present your source). --ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 16 =

Moving vs. Submitting New Articles
Is there a policy about submitting articles for review after you've created them, vs. just moving them into the proper space? I created two articles in the past (as subpages under my user name as I was editing them) and then just moved them to the proper name when they were done. I created another article a few days ago and for some reason hit the "submit" button rather than just moving it from my user name subpage. I know policies and standards and am sure the article is fine (other than a few links that need proper formatting; I'm getting to them) and doesn't really need review; is there some reason I shouldn't move it from the review/talk page into its proper name page? The article is Eternity (2010 South African film).Bobbyandbeans (talk) 17:11, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no policy that requires you to ask for review. Particularly for inexperienced users, it generally increases the likelihood of the article's survival to do so. --ColinFine (talk) 22:29, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Ludwig Kabongo



 * You seem to have inserted your signature into the middle of a link to an example image. Have you a question? --ColinFine (talk) 22:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 17 =

Linking to past version of an article
How do I go about creating a link to a past version of an article? Willbat (talk) 02:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If you click on the "View history" tab on the top of the article, you can find a detailed edit-by-edit history of every Wikipedia article. When you click on any one of the "time and date" links, it will give you the URL of a specific version of the article depending on how your web browser deals with that link.


 * It will usually be in a form like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:New_contributors%27_help_page/questions&oldid=455948041


 * I hope that helps. --Robert Horning (talk) 03:16, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Spelling mistakes
There are some spelling mistakes in the article. Can I edit and correct them without offending the author or any of the policies of Widipedia?1.38.34.112 (talk) 12:22, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * No one owns an article and you are allowed to edit articles. Note however that people often disagree about spelling. See Manual of Style. I cannot say whether anybody will have issues with your changes. Wikipedia has millions of articles and I don't know which one you have in mind. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:24, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Editing spelling shouldn't violate any policies, anyone is free to edit articles within the guidelines of Wikipedia. Check first that the words in question are not words that have a variety of possible spellings (for example there are many words that are spelled differently in American English versus British English). If not, then I don't see why anyone should be offended. If they dispute your spelling changes they will just revert the page back to it's previous version. Hope that helps :-) MsBatfish (talk) 07:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

What to do about anonymous abusive comments on my user talk page??
I couldn't find information about this anywhere in the Help section, so I apologize if it is in fact already covered somewhere.

I have been receiving some nasty comments on my user talk page, which is really weird considering the only edits to articles I have made so far have been minor edits to grammar, punctuation, etc which couldn't be construed as controversial in any way. The other weird thing is that not only are the comments unsigned but there is also no IP address or any identifying information - I thought that if someone didn't sign their comment that it was automatically signed for them, & that if they weren't a registered user their IP address would be logged??

What should I do? Is there a way to report a user for this kind of behaviour? If so, how do I do that when I have no way to find out who they are?

The only reason I can think that someone would do this to me is that I made some posts on the discussion page of a controversial article, but my posts themselves were not taking sides or opinionated, so it's still pretty strange...

I know I could just keep deleting the comments, but I'm looking for a better/ longer-lasting option, as I feel it is inappropriate for someone to be making these comments in the first place.

Thanks! MsBatfish (talk) 07:50, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * UPDATED: I just realized that their IP address IS now showing up on the history section for my user talk page. So what, if anything should/can I do? I did try the suggestion I found under "personal attacks" of politely trying to reason with the user. I am thinking that they are probably just a troll & that ignoring them might make them go away? But that doesn't really help anything in the long-term or prevent them from doing this to others... (I left some of the comments up (and all my responses) in case anyone is curious...) MsBatfish (talk) 08:08, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have reverted the comments on your talk page and placed a warning on the IP editors talk page. I they persist they will be blocked from editing. Vrenator (talk) 09:04, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

ready to move?
Hello, I have an article in a user sub-page that is ready to be moved. I also have a file of copyright permissions in the article. Should I "move" the article first or wait until I send the file and then move the article? Does the article have to be marked with OTRS somehow?

Thanks, NancyNturnerjj (talk) 16:06, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Kennedy's Kitchen is nowhere near ready to be moved. Few of the references are independent - probably not enough of them to establish notability, most of the article is unreferenced, and much of the article is promotional rather than encyclopaedic in tone. I'm not sure what the items are for which you have copyright donations, but unless they are photos, they're probably not appropriate to the article. I would say that the article needs a complete rewrite, using as a model a featured article about a band; but first, you need to find the independent reliable sources which can establish that the band is notable. --ColinFine (talk) 22:58, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

biography of Marian Finucane
I wish to correct the estimated date of birth to 1949. See www.familysearch.org for births in Dublin 1949 and 1950 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.6.32 (talk) 16:11, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I can find no entry for Marian Finucane at http://www.familysearch.org. The article has an inline reference saying 1950. I can find many other sources saying 1950 and none saying 1949. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:30, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 18 =

Why do editors delete so much stuff?
Hi, I'm new here, but not new to journalism. What I don't understand is why it seems editors of Wikipedia seem so interested in deleting and disproving what has been contributed, even with 20, 50, 100 citations on the subject, the material gets deleted with bogus 'reasons', claiming that the information is irrelevant. Photos that were uploaded, and fit directly with the subject of the article were deleted and changed to another similar photo, with no reasons given. To me, this seems to break a few of the guidelines of Wikipedia, such as vandalism, and one of the pillars of Wikipedia, Don't bit the newcomers... I am not trying to point fingers or accuse anyone of vandalism, thus I haven't included direct reference to the editor(s) referred to in that particular case... But what I'm saying is that I don't understand why they do this, or what I can do to revert the article back to pre-deletion... Let me rephrase that... I know 'how' to revert, but I also don't want to start an editing war, and I don't want one of these all-powerful editors to block me and accuse me of vandalism. Some editors seem very nice and levelheaded. Others don't, and its those editors that don't seem to be following the rules, while telling others the material doesn't comply with this or that (obscure reference to a Wikipedia rule)... I am truly confused by this attitude that seems to be working against the system, from within. Thanks for your assistance... Alayna the Extravagant (talk) 04:28, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Nobody else seems to have answered you, so I will have a try. You've written as though you're making a general point, but I get the impression that you're really talking about a specific incident, or series of incidents. But since you haven't identified the specifics, it's hard to give you anything but the most general answer.
 * Generally, people delete material because they don't think it meets the Wikipedia guidelines: they think that it is a copyright infringement, unsourced, non-notable, not neutral, original research or irrelevant to the article. Opinions may often differ as to the applicability of these criteria in particular cases, and certainly there are some editors who go round removing some kind of content wherever they find it. (I have been tempted to go round removing "X in popular culture" sections wholesale, as they are usually unsourced, and almost never cited to a secondary source, and most of them are non-notable or indeed trivial. I haven't done so yet, though.) As you know there are also people who vandalise by removing material.
 * All I can suggest is to engage with the editors who have removed the material you think should stay, either on the article's talk page, or on their own talk pages. --ColinFine (talk) 22:06, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for this answer. I was asking generally, based on a few recent events in an article I was submitting and editing. Soon after creating it, the article had been marked for speedy delete, but stopped because one or more others saw the notability. I added more details to the article, only to have 2/3 of that deleted, as well as the photos I placed on there, the photos replaced with another similar photo, and the article nominated for deletion (by the same editor)... That editor deleted many details which do fit in the article, but perhaps needed to be tied together through some better editing... After all this, more sources were added(some were news articles/ editorials by international news agencies, written by their regular full time news staff), and these were removed stating they are not reliable sources. Soon after, I offered 10+ sources on the exact topic of the article, and again the same editor says they are not reliable sources, and that not all of them or none of them even mentions the topic... It can be disappointing to have your work removed by someone else, but even trying to stay objective and not take it personally, its particularly discouraging to a new contributor to have all the details and research overturned, with very little explanation. I don't want to accuse anyone of vandalism in this case, but removing reliable references and then trying to delete an article because there are no reliable citations... That seems to border on vandalism. I feel that editors, though they probably edit thousands or articles and get tired of reading other people's poor writing styles... need to be more objective and do more editing and less deleting. Your answer explains both sides of that pretty well... so thanks. Alayna the Extravagant (talk) 12:19, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You are referring to ? – ukexpat (talk) 16:08, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is correct... Alayna the Extravagant (talk) 11:09, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Your article survived so it is rather save since a new AfD needs new arguments. Many new editors (as already mentioned) try to promote their companies, do simple copyright violations, and try to promote something which is simply not notable and doesn't contain any independent (third party) reference. mabdul 12:38, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I am new here too, and I agree with the sentiment that it would be more helpful if editors tried to do more editing and less reactive deletion. But I am not sure what can be done about that other than assume that their deletions were made in good faith and try to talk to the editors in question on the article's discussion page. Politely ask them why they deleted things, what you have to do in order to fix or re-instate the segments of the article, and so on. Good luck and I hope this hasn't soured your experience of writing/editing for Wikipedia :-) MsBatfish (talk) 22:20, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Why my article is rejected
I thrice tried to put my first article on 'Maritime Sikh Society'(MSS), but was not accepted. MSS is registered society in Canada. It runs Sikh temple in Halifax, Canada. In this article I hv given the history of the society since 1968 when it was established. I do not know why it is not accepted and what are the errors and how to correct them If u wish I can list the long article here Plz advise and help

Jagpal S Tiwana Director Communications Maritime Sikh Society Halifax, CanadaTiwana555 (talk) 08:42, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please work your way down the FAQ page for organisations, as many of the points it covers apply in this case. Feel free to ask again if anything is still unclear. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

History of Sikh community in Halifax, Canada
Sir, we have recorded the history f Sikh community settled in the Halifax area of Canada. We want to leave it on Wikipedia for research scholars tracing immigrants to Canada. How can I put it on Wikipedia. Many stories about it appeared in the press. Here are a few

Our Gurdwara on Canadian Army's web site:

Click in the middle on maple leaf when the site opens http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/land-terre/news-nouvelles/story-reportage-eng.asp?id=1704 For a more clear picture Click here http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/Video/06-704HiRes.wmv Canadian Brig Gen Parsons's recruiting pitch to Halifax Sikhs. Date: 11/29/2006 http://fateh.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/news.nsf/NewsArchive/C9E656DF0B2B2DD98725723500730CB7

http://worldsikh.ca/2006/11/29/canadian-brig-gen-parsonss-recruiting-pitch-to-halifax-sikhs/

http://www.army.forces.gc.ca/land-terre/news-nouvelles/story-reportage-eng.asp?id=1647

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2006/11/27/sikh-afghanistan.html

MSS honors peanut butter lady http://maritimesikhsociety.com/peanut%20butter%20lady.htm

Canadian Sikhs fete 'peanut butter lady' India Abroad | September 29, 2000 | Jain, Ajit http://business.highbeam.com/3650/article-1P1-79279529/canadian-sikhs-fete-peanut-butter-lady

First Gora Sikh President of a Gurdwara in Canada.

http://samrao.com/IndianExpressSamRao/Mar2412yearoldRahulDalalACESSAT.pdf

http://www.tapoban.org/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=69528&t=69313 http://www.sikhreview.org/march2006/current.htm http://www.unp.co.in/f15/maritime-sikh-society-1415/ http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-news/8124-meet-sardar-martin-jarnail-singh.html

First Turbaned Sikh officer of Canadian Air Force visited Halifax Gurdwara. http://s.www.sikhnet.com/news/first-turbaned-sikh-officer-canadian-air-force-visited-halifax-gurdwara

Hon. Navdeep Bains, MP Chief Guest at Halifax Baisakhi Celebrations http://www.sikhnet.com/community/hon-navdeep-bains-mp-chief-guest-halifax-baisakhi-celebrations

Women Executive :All women society to run Halifax gurdwara

http://worldsikhnews.com/30%20December%202009/All%20women%20society%20to%20run%20Halifax%20gurdwara.htm

SGPC should emulate Halifax example: MS Gill

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-news/28643-maritime-sikh-society-canada-elects-all.html

MSS President Kanwal Sidhu interviewed by Mehfil Magazine

http://www.sikhchic.com/people/taking_the_bull_by_the_horns

All women Team to Manage Gurdwara in Canada

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-news/28643-maritime-sikh-society-canada-elects-all.html

Maritime Sikh Society Donation to IWK Hospital 20 December 2009 http://www.ggscf.com/wp/latestnews/maritime-sikh-society-donation-to-iwk-hospital/

http://www.ggscf.com/wp/category/latestnews/page/3/

http://www.sikhnet.com/news/sikh-runners-raise-funds-hospitals-across-canada

http://www.southasiapost.org/2009/20090715/index.htm

Halifax Gurdwara mourns the death of Dr. Hew McLeod http://www.southasiapost.org/2009/20090815/canada.htm#3

http://emgonline.co.uk/news.php?news=6772

A Salute to Dr. Hew McLeod - Gursharan Singh Toor

Sikh Community welcome immigrants http://older.kingsjournalism.com/commoner/files/commoner_051118.pdf

Health and Safety Guidelines South Asia Post http://www.southasiapost.org/2011/20110131/canada.htm#6 and Sikhnet http://www.sikhnet.com/news/health-and-safety-guidelines-gurdwaras

Gidda - Maritime Sikh Society - Halifax prajeetsingh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZyr6kwzkZc

Comments on Women Executives — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiwana555 (talk • contribs) 09:23, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but Wikipedia is not a place for the publication of original research and documents. We are a reference project for the compilation of material gathered from already-published research in reliable sources. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  15:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Reply: I didn't get the impression that the poster was talking about creating an article based on orignal research as Orange Mike  said. Perhaps their wording of the question was a bit confusing, but to me it looks like they wanted to create an article on "History of Sikh Community in Halifax, NS Canada" or "Timeline of Sikh Immigration to Halifax" or something along those lines. If they populate the article with information that is from reliable sources, I don't see how that counts as original research? Perhaps the poster just needs to learn how to create an article on Wikipedia and to read the guidelines for reliability, verifiability, etc? MsBatfish (talk) 22:43, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Would like help with a citation question
How do I cite a reference for a file that is archived in a library, but not directly available on the web, and not part of a book? Thus far I have sucessfully done citations that start with "cite book", and "cite web", but I'm not sure what to do for this situation, and haven't found any examples to learn from.

I know the name of the library, the name of the archive, the locator numbers, and the years to reference. I’m just not certain how to begin the citation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teefor3 (talk • contribs) 17:18, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If the file is not published somewhere, it cannot be used here. Pretty much by definition we only source published content. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:44, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply!

So, in other words, I need to wait until the library creates a weblink for the archive? They tell me that the archive is completely sorted now and that it is going to be available on the web fairly soon, so that will solve that problem in any case.

In another situation, there is a published source, but it belongs to just one college and is held in their college library. I contacted them and they sent me an email with everything that I needed for research. I suppose the best thing to do would be to contact them and ask how to reference this as a publication? Another possibility would be to ask them if the same information is referenced in any other books.

Any other thoughts? Thanks again, ChasB — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teefor3 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If the actual content of the archive is put online, that would constitute a published source. As to the other: reference the book or magazine or whatever as you normally would. There has never been, and never will be, a requirement that all Wikipedia references must be weblinked. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Your answers are much appreciated, and are very helpful! Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teefor3 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 19 =

Concordia Class Project
I am a teaching assistant at Concordia University in Montreal. I was hoping to use Wikipedia as a tool in writing entries about social reform groups. My question is: How would approximately 40 students go about creating their own entries, which the rest of the class could view and edit themselves, without their entrees being deleted or edited by others outside the class or even Montreal? Is this possible? At the end of the class, I would allow those students, who wanted to attempt to publish their entries on Wikipedia, to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dejai b (talk • contribs) 18:37, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds like fun! We have a whole page here that can help you get started. If you need more help, you can post here as well. TN X Man  18:55, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 20 =

Removing an image?
Hi, I would like to remove the image in the "DeepFlight Super Falcon" article, my reason being that the photo is not of the DeepFlight Super Falcon (it is actually of one of their earlier subs, the Aviator). The info in the caption and the box under the photo is also incorrect. Do I just remove the whole thing? Is there any policy regarding having to submit a photo for discussion before you can delete it? Thanks. MsBatfish (talk) 00:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I suggest that you be bold and remove it from the article, with an explanation in your edit summary and perhaps on the talk page as well. There is no need to have the image deleted entirely, because it is a good picture of "The Aviator" and could be useful to the project somewhere. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I suggest that you be bold and remove it from the article, with an explanation in your edit summary and perhaps on the talk page as well. There is no need to have the image deleted entirely, because it is a good picture of "The Aviator" and could be useful to the project somewhere. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks John of Reading. When I said "delete" I meant remove it from the article, not remove it from Wikipedia entirely. I will try removing it from the article, hopefully I do it properly! :-) MsBatfish (talk) 08:56, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Rocky horror picture show facebook
I posted invitations to close friends on facebook and all the messages came up on the Rocky Horror Picture Show page on friends activity. Please can you delete these as my private number is on there. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.226.104 (talk) 10:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm confused as to what exactly you are talking about. What does this have to do with Wikipedia? MsBatfish (talk) 10:44, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * This is a help page for Wikipedia and not for Facebook. We have no control over Facebook which is run by an entirely different organization. Perhaps the page you refer to is a Facebook community page with content copied from Wikipedia, but the messages you mention were not copied from Wikipedia. Here is a general statement about Facebook community pages:
 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

I have researched ! now how to write !
I have researched about tamil hiphop in India and now i want to write an article about it. Can someone help me how to do it ? Adhithya.rv (talk) 11:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Start by reading WP:1st and WP:Tutorial. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Retrieving my username - how?
Common sense dictates that if someone has forgotten their password and needs to retrieve it, it is not much use asking them to type in their username when they have forgotten it as well. Please install a facility whereby I (and other registered users who encounter the same problem) can type in my (their) full real name and then an email is automatically sent to the user. Or introduce a facility whereby users *can* type in their email address in order to retrieve their login details but *without* all and sundry being able to see this. Many other non-commercial sites manage this. It should not be easily within the capabilities of the Wikipedia technical team/community. Thank you. 92.12.53.224 (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There are some suggestions here if you haven't seen them already. Your proposal is an interesting one, but carries a security risk - if a hacker compromised an email account they would be able to use your new facility to get the associated Wikipedia user name and thus hack that as well. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:15, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * In the mean-time, I suggest you look at the editing history of some articles you have edited in the past, during the period where you were doing so. You should recognize your old name among them. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:13, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That's what I did when I forgot my username/password here, I looked at the article I had created my user account to edit, and there was my username. If I had not edited anything I would have been lost.Bugloss (talk) 19:26, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 21 =

Criteria for Notable person page
What is the criteria for adding an individual to the Notable Persons page? I entered yesterday, it displayed in the preview screen but is gone today.24.117.72.246 (talk) 16:29, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * For a person to have an article, they generally need to meet the guidelines set out here. TN X Man  16:39, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about the article Boise, Idaho, as I assume you are, the person you added to that article is not notable enough to have an article in an encyclopedia about him or her; thus, your addition of their name has been reverted. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  16:40, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

I understand that an entry must be for a notable character, that is why I would like this name added to the list. I would think that being a Guinness World Record holder is about as notable as a person could get since some of the feats are very hard to attain. I have a picture of the record document and it is included in the database. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.117.72.246 (talk) 18:19, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * As was said when, first write the article for the individual, giving appropriate reliable sources as references to demonstrate his notability, then you can link to that new article from Boise, Idaho. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:31, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Also be aware that there are many many thousands of GWR holders, and that the vast majority of them are not even remotely notable. This is an encyclopedia, not an edition of the Guinness Book of World Records. See our guidance on people "notable" for only one event. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:50, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 22 =

Adding articles to Watchlist?
Is there a way to add an article to my Watchlist without editing the article? Also, I have noticed that when I do edit an article and select the check-box next to "add to Watchlist" it doesn't always work. For example, I have noticed that some pages do not show up on my Watchlist, even though when I manually check the article History I see that subsequent edits have been made. Is this a bug perhaps? Thanks. MsBatfish (talk) 00:51, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * See WP:Watchlist. - David Biddulph (talk) 00:59, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you David Biddulph :-) MsBatfish (talk) 09:16, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 23 =

Redcliff suburb
Redcliff is a small mining town at the centre of Zimbabwe. This page is mainly focusing on the low density suburb of Redcliff. During the colonial era, this area was strictly for whites and the only black people found there were maids and gardeners. After independence in 1980, the black population increased. Redcliff was built on a red slope and that is where it got its name from — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.246.55.29 (talk) 15:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I assume you are talking about the article Redcliff, Zimbabwe. If you have well-sourced information with which you can improve the article, you are very welcome to be bold and improve it. But the biggest improvement you could make to the article would be to add citations to sources for the information already in the article, before adding further referenced information. --ColinFine (talk) 20:42, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

where is my paaaaaaaaaaaage????????????? :((((
where is my page ???????????? : Casio FX-991ES — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newvgac12 (talk • contribs) 11:17, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The article, Casio FX-991ES, that you created was deleted after being proposed for deletion for 7 days with no objections. Since it was a proposed deletion and you have come back and asked this question I have restored it as a contested Prod.  I have also nominated it for deletion explaining what happened.  You may comment in the deletion discussion here, Articles for deletion/Casio FX-991ES.  GB fan 12:13, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Help creating page
I need some help in creating a page for our company0

Servcoind (talk) 19:32, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:CORP and WP:COI. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:29, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 25 =

Can I cite my own published works if I do it correctly? Puedo citar mis propios trabajos si lo hago de manera correcta?
Good morning, I would like that you confirm me the veracity of the following writing: A user expert in a matter can contribute with his own knowledge. It is supposed that an expert has access, and it will be able to find, the sources authorized to enrich the articles and it can help to find them. He can even cite his own published works if it does it correctly. (It is to say, if they have been published in reputable journals or by reputable publishers and if used mostly secondary sources for issue). Can you answer me at espaisNT ?

Cordially

Buenos días, Me gustaría que me confirmaran la veracidad del siguiente escrito: Un usuario experto en una materia puede contribuir con su propio conocimiento. Se supone que un experto tiene acceso, y sabrá encontrar, las fuentes autorizadas para enriquecer los artículos y puede contribuir a verificarlas. Hasta puede citar sus trabajos publicados si lo hace correctamente. (Es decir, si han sido publicados en revistas de prestigio o por editoriales de renombre y si usa mayormente fuentes secundarias en su divulgación). Pueden contestarme en espaisNT ? Cordialmente

--EspaisNT (talk) 09:51, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, you may cite your own works if they have been published in a reputable place. However, you must be careful not to put any original research or synthesis in the article which is not in the published sources. --ColinFine (talk) 21:43, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Old to new style wiki
I am currently on the old style wiki view and would like to switch to the new style view how do i do that?--Lucy-marie (talk) 12:50, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I guess you refer to the skin. Go to Special:Preferences (or click "My preferences" on any page), select Vector under the Appearance tab and click Save. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:46, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 26 =

Linking to a previous version of an article
Hi, I would just like to know how to create a link to a previous revision of an article. Thanks! Willbat (talk) 03:27, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Go to the history page of the article, click on the relevant version, copy the url, such as this one for the version with your question. - David Biddulph (talk) 06:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * See also Help:Page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:20, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks guys, you've been a big help. Willbat (talk) 22:31, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

textbook related Factual questions
I am am new user in wikipedia, so please let me know if it's possible to ask textbook related factual questions or numerical problems in any subject in wikipedia reference desk? Does the "helpme" keyword works the same? and why do I need to sign my talks with "````"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intr199 (talk • contribs) 13:56, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, you sign your messages with four tildes (like so: ~ ). The reference desks can certainly help answer factual questions, but they will not do your homework for you. You can read more about the different kinds of reference desks here. TN X Man  14:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * And for what does, see Template:Help me. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:15, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

help on placing a new reference to a semiprotected page
Hi I want to add a newly released reference to a semiprotected page (Tutankhamun).I seek help to be able to do this correctly. Thank you Saharnsaleem (talk) 19:24, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You can request someone do this for you by going to the article's talk page and place at the bottom of the page, followed by the edit you wish to make. I hope this helps.  TN X Man  19:42, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I checked the Talk page of the article but could not find a place to add my request of edit. Will you please help me to find the right location to place my request?Saharnsaleem (talk) 23:36, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Go to the talk page, then click on the tab at the top of the screen marked "new section"; give the section a logical heading name such as "Help adding new reference", then add the template as described above,, then below that type out your message below and then click save page.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:42, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Click the "New section" tab at top of the talk page. Or click "View source" on the article page itself and then click "Submit an edit request". PrimeHunter (talk) 23:44, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, this worked and I placed my request.Saharnsaleem (talk) 00:10, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Adding a Map to a Wikipedia Site - Jeannette Walls
Hello,

I want to put a map with pinpoints of the places that Jeannette Walls lived, lives now and where she went to college. Also on the pinpoints, I would like it for it to work so that if you hoover over one pinpoint, information would come up about that point or if that can not be done, if I were to number to pinpoints and reference that number to information in the Bio portion. I see that some of her information is already in her biography of places she lived, I want to give a visual. This is an English/Reading project I am doing for class at South Puget Sound Community College, Olympa WADileslie (talk) 23:31, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia biographies do not do that sort of thing. Is it your own idea or did a teacher suggest it? The article text can contain links to other articles about the mentioned places and those articles may have coordinates, for example in the upper right corner of Barnard College. An interested user can click the coordinates and see the location on a map. I don't know how precise you were planning to be but note that WP:BLPPRIVACY says "articles should not include postal addresses, e-mail addresses, telephone numbers, or other contact information for living persons". PrimeHunter (talk) 23:53, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * This is from the Project Sites section in the Manhattan Project article. It achieves the effect you are after by using the imagemap tag. Each circle describes an spot on the map with x-coordinate, y-coordinate and circle size. Then there is a link in the usual wiki-form.

Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:13, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 27 =

edit a photo
how can i edit a photo on wikipedia ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pinku46 (talk • contribs) 11:16, 27 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know what type of edit you have in mind, for example uploading a new file or new version of an existing file, or use an existing file in an article, or change size or placement of an already used file, or something else. If Help:Files does not answer your question then please be more specific about what you want to do. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:48, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Infobox usage per subsection
Good day,

Is there a proper way to do an infobox (or equivalent) within subsections? I went to the Uninterruptible_power_supply page and noticed in some of the subsections (e.g. Uninterruptible_power_supply) a rather messy box to the right. An infobox would fit nicely here but the usage states that an Infobox is only for at the top of the page as a summary. I could do a custom item for the page but it seems like this would be useful on other pages as well.

Sgaragan (talk) 16:29, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Confirmation email expired - can't do anything
Hello My confirmation email expired. Tried following instructions. Doesn't work - I click on "Preferences" login pg pops up even though I'm not signed in. Everything I try to do takes me in circles. When I tried live chat for help said username doesn't exist. When I try to open new account says username already in use. Is there anyway to have another confirmation email sent? Where can I go for the help I need? Where can I contact the right people for this problem? My account seems to be in limbo. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Need to learn a lot, but can't get anywhere like this. HELP! Lynxspirit11 (talk) 20:53, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Go to Special:ConfirmEmail to send another confirmation e-mail. Just so you know, you don't need a confirmed e-mail address to create and edit pages in Wikipedia.  It is optional, and you only need it get a new password if you forget it or to allow other users to e-mail you through Wikipedia.  --Mysdaao talk 22:47, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 28 =

Mickie James
Someone Won't remove false info from a wikipedia Page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mickiefan2005 (talk • contribs) 07:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Once again quit asking for this everywhere, please stick to the talk page. GB fan 12:13, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

memory and storage devices
storage devices are non volatile while the memory is volitaile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.152.228.217 (talk) 11:56, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you have a question? GB fan 12:13, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 29 =

How to replace current picture?
I have tried for what seems like hours to replace the photo on my/our bio page with an identical one of higher quality. I own this picture. It is from our personal collection on my computer. the bio page is about us, Jack Blanchard & Misty Morgan. I am completely at my wits end. I have tried to get help in every way I thought possible. I do not understand the instructions or answers. Can you help? Jack Blanchard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackandmisty (talk • contribs) 03:50, 29 October 2011 (UTC)


 * WP:Images is the page to look at. When you upload a new photo you'll need to set appropriate licence conditions to avoid copyright problems. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:05, 29 October 2011 (UTC)


 * If your problem is that on Jack Blanchard & Misty Morgan you are seeing the old version of File:Jack_Blanchard_Misty_Morgan.jpg, rather than the version you uploaded this morning, you may need to purge the cache using Jack Blanchard & Misty Morgan&action=purge. You didn't need, so I've reverted it. The other file which you uploaded will disappear unless you give an appropriate licence release. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:22, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

trdavds — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.86.179.128 (talk) 18:44, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Bogus wiki page found, newbie qu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bebb92/Richard_John_Bebb This page is written by Bebb92 He obviously has done it as some sort of prank, he does not appear in X-men films, he is not dead although his entire page is written in past tense, he did not read spycatcher audiobook (that was someone called Rich Orlow), He did not die in 2006 and then attend Trinity College in 2009 -2011. He has entered himself in Welsh Actors, created a new group Actors from Pontypridd, which has one entry - himself. Said he was born in 1992 on wiki....

Is this what Wiki was set up for? Is this allowed to have this trivial drivel on wiki?

I was looking for a specific Welsh Actor and came across this page. My knowledge of wiki is like 2% so I am in no position to do anything about it. It took me long enough just to find this forum to make the experts around here aware of it. I find wiki -behind the scenes- extremely confusing and difficult to navigate/use.

Hoping that someone who knows what to do will be able to delete that page and all references to him in Welsh actors.

And how do you "reply" to these messages on this board? <<<< OK I just worked this out, you don't make anything easy around here do you.

And what's the point of the 4 squiggles ~ if when you don't do them your post says "this unsigned post was posted by xxxxxxx" anyway, why not just automatically sign every post with the users details? And what does UTC stand for? Bugloss (talk) 19:07, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I will take care of the easy stuff first. Yes if you forget to sign the page with ~ a bot will usually come along and do it for you.  The problem is that on some pages that see more traffic if two people edit in quick succession and the first one doesn't sign their post the bot will miss the edit and it won't get signed.  UTC is Coordinated Universal Time. It is used because we have editors all over the world and if all the posts were timed in their respective timezone it would make it hard to see who responded when.  I will look at the page that you identified and let you know here what I come up with.  GB fan 19:40, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The article is now gone. I deleted it as a blatant hoax.  The only thing I am not sure about is that you say: "delete ... all references to him in Welsh actors."  Can you tell me what page you are talking about that references him?  GB fan 19:53, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for deleting that article, he had placed himself (and is still listed) in the following categories
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Welsh_film_actors
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Welsh_television_actors
 * EDIT to add, he has gone from both now, so unless you deleted him it must have been wiki taking its time to eventually delete him.


 * He was also in the next two (under B for Bebb) but has been automatically deleted it seems
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:1992_births&pageuntil=Ben+Khalifa%2C+Nassim%0ANassim+Ben+Khalifa#mw-pages
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Welsh_radio_actors


 * He also created a category Actors from Pontypridd, but this has been deleted as he was the only name in the group
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Actors_from_Pontypridd


 * Strange that when you deleted his page, it removed him from 1992 births, Welsh Radio actors & deleted the actors from pontypridd category, but it did not delete him from welsh television & film actors......EDIT but maybe there was just a time delay going on, as he has gone from all now.


 * Thank you again Bugloss (talk) 20:55, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Entries are deleted from categories when the article is deleted. Sometimes the categories do take a little time to update once n a while.  Glad everything is cleared up now.  GB fan 21:23, 29 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Pages are added to categories by editing the page and not the category. See Help:Category. Sometimes it takes time before a category page is updated. See Help:Job queue. Or maybe you just had to bypass your cache to see the updated category. I don't see the page in any categories now. Category:Actors from Pontypridd has actually never been created. It has always been a red link. However, a page can be added to a non-existing category by editing the page. In that case the "non-existing" category will display the pages it contains. This may sound illogical but it's practical to track down problems with categories. If you save without ~ then a message like "Preceding unsigned comment added by ..." is not displayed automatically or immediately. The message can be added by User:SineBot in a separate edit afterwards but only in certain circumstances. Wikipedia is a wiki and uses the same collaborative MediaWiki software to write articles and make discussions. This has both ups and downs. One of the downs is that participation in discussions may be confusing to new users who are more used to an Internet forum where their posts are really their own and cannot be edited by others. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:28, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 30 =

editing my own biography on wikipedia
dear helper at wiki,

there are many things i don't know yet about how to contribute info about myself on a page about me, brent david fraser, that another person has set up on wikipedia. please help me to understand how i and the original contributor/editor can become harmonious in this process. i would like to be able to share info about myself, with nothing libelous to anyone, all verifiable and factual.

thank you for your help.

faithfully,

brent david fraser — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brentdavidfraser (talk • contribs) 19:11, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Brent. Since you have a conflict of interest, please do not edit your own biography. Instead, please suggest changes or additions on the talk page of the article. Also, please read this essay. Thanks, Goodvac (talk) 19:20, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Two useful things to read: WP:Autobiography and WP:COI. You'll also need to think about some of the basics of writing in English, such as using capital letters where relevant. Also remember that if you put spaces at the beginning of a line in Wikipedia it upsets the formatting of the paragraph, as it did originally in your message above;  I've corrected that for you, but please check your edits with the "Show preview" button before you use "Save page". And if you are posting to a discussion page such as this, please sign your posts by using 4 tildes ~ or with the signature button on the edit bar. And don't put  at the end of your message, because that would put a line separating your message from any replies. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:25, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

= October 31 =

What coding language works best for edits in wikipedia?
What coding language works best for edits in wikipedia? I find that there is a combo of coding languages in creating posts but it's non specific as to which one works best. HTML, XML, CSS? Anyone with more experience know how it works best and which language works better in templates, etc? Elegance is a question of personality, more than one's clothing. ~Jean-Paul Gaultier 00:03, 31 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HeathyrW (talk • contribs)
 * See Cheatsheet for a quick guide to the coding that you will need most often, or Help:Wiki markup for a longer version. Welcome to Wikipedia, by the way - I've left you some introductory links on your talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:43, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Most pages on Wikipedia as edited contain none of the languages you've mentioned, but only Mediawiki markup. --ColinFine (talk) 23:47, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

KALIBANGAN UPDATE
I had recently gone and visited the site of Kalibangan, the excavated area is still under protective layers which has been put up by the ASI. However due t rain/ the vagaries of nature lots of area have become exposed the wall picture as shown in this page where only you could have peeked through has a clear view of the brick wall and visitors are taking away the bricks from the ruins as trophies along with them. Ramesh891 (talk) 14:40, 31 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Did you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? - David Biddulph (talk) 14:45, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Created a Page ... Where did it go?
Hi,

I created a page and hit the button for it to be reviewed. How do I find it again?

Thank for the help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharcoalsMom (talk • contribs) 22:13, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * This message is the only edit in your contribution history, so it would appear that you did not successfully save the page (or else you did, but it was deleted - but there should have been a message on your talk page if that happened). Did you press 'Previes' instead of 'Save'? Or did it present you a captcha (because your account is not yet autoconfirmed) and you didn't enter the word? Whatever happened, I don't think the page is there. Without knowing the title of the page there's not much more we can do. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 23:53, 31 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Your account has no deleted edits. I can confirm it has saved no other edits than posting here. Special:Captcha is a working link about the CAPTCHA feature. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:36, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks guys. Looks like I am going to have to do it all again :o( Any hints on how to make sure I don't lose all my work this time? CharcoalsMom (talk) 01:45, 1 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharcoalsMom (talk • contribs) 01:44, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The safest solution is to copy large edits offline, for example to a text editor, before trying to save or preview. In many browsers you can copy to a clipboard (software) with  (select all) followed by  (copy). You can then paste into another program or edit window with, or just keep it in the clipboard until you are certain the save has gone through. Your saved edits can be seen by clicking "My contributions" on any page. For your account it gives Special:Contributions/CharcoalsMom which is where we saw you had not saved anything before posting here. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:03, 1 November 2011 (UTC)