Wikipedia:Newbie treatment at Criteria for speedy deletion/Jake Wartenberg

Jake Wartenberg's experience
I created Antonio del Río as. It was tagged with db-bio within three minutes while it was in this state. The article at no time met the speedy or deletion criteria. When the article was in this state the user who tagged the page placed a hangon tag. When I had expanded the article to this the tagger removed both the db-bio and hangon tags. He then placed a wikify and proceeded to editwar with me over it, reverting twice and adding it the third time even when the article was wikified in this state.

I imagine a newbie bitten here. This isn't particularly meant as a criticism of the tagging user; I don't think that my experience was at all atypical, especially given the results the other participants of this project have documented.

— Jake   Wartenberg  19:59, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Interesting. I won't be doing any further CSD's, as it appears they're really not worth the energy. Might even give a pass on tagging too, since that also seems to offend people.
 * Cheers,
 * Bagheera (talk) 20:27, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Please understand that driving users away was never anyone's intention. Your work here is definitely appreciated; please don't think otherwise.  The hope is simply that these writeups will provide us all with lessons on how to improve and make this project a more welcoming place.  —  Jake   Wartenberg  20:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Jake, I understand the intent isn't to drive contributors away. But a "Dude, I think you're being a little aggressive on the CSD's  Give 'em a little more time" would probably have been more effective. At least in my case.  As I posted in my own page, I'm going to step away from tagging and such and simply correct obvious grammatical and typographical errors.  Much less likely to step on someone's toes.
 * Cheers, Bagheera (talk) 21:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Just follow the tagging rules to the letter and you won't go wrong. I would also suggest giving an article 10-20 minutes before tagging to develop. Viridae Talk 00:35, 18 November 2009 (UTC)