Wikipedia:Peer review/École L'Odyssée/archive1

École L'Odyssée
This peer review discussion has been closed. So this was a revamp I did beginning on the 15th - my third, but only significant one. I tried getting as much information as possible, but because it's a poorly-documented establishment (excluding newspaper articles and the provincial government's education archives which were of great help), I had little to work on. What I really want to get done is the following, and I'd like a little help with how to proceed doing it:


 * Remove the gallery at the bottom and integrate the images into the side of the article. I've tried, but I'm not the best with formatting.
 * Italicize the foreign terms per WP:Manual_of_Style; however, there is very little information I was able to use. Guidelines from a professional would be very appreciated.
 * The lead sentence for the History section is uncited. There is absolutely no citation for it, but I can't think of a way to rephrase it / think of a better lead sentence.

If there's anything else you wish to add to benefit the article's progression, feel free to say what you think. Thanks.

Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  15:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Forgot to mention that I'm trying to get this at least to GA. Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  18:42, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Comments from Niagara


 * The gallery should be removed, with the images moved to Commons, and Commons category added in its place. I should also point out that the image licenses for the photographs of the artwork probably won't work. One of the few things I've learned about copyright here, is that you may have taken the photo but the creator of the artwork still holds the copyright.
 * ✅ Removed all of the student's artwork (sort of useless, anyway), kept the scenic photos, sent them to Commons and added template. Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  16:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Intro
 * "...is a public francophone high school located in Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada, part of the province's District 01, offering education to students from grade nine to twelve."
 * Split sentence: "...is a public, francophone high school located in Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada. It is a part of the province's District 01 and offers education to students from grades nine to twelve."
 * ✅ Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  15:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * "...alongside the neighboring middle school, École Le Mascaret."
 * If the buildings are connected, "adjoing" might better than neighboring.
 * ✅ Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  15:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * École Beauséjour and École Vanier are mentioned only in the intro. Per WP:LEAD, anything in the intro should be mentioned in the article body as well.
 * ✅ Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  16:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

History
 * The only way I can see in getting rid of the "citation needed" without actually adding a citation would be to remove the sentence and just start the paragraph off by mentioning that the overcrowding problems at École Mathieu-Martin caused the development of the plans that eventually created Écoles L'Odyssée and Le Mascaret.
 * ✅ Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  15:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Academics
 * What is a "'Volet' curricula"?
 * ✅ Clarified with a short modification to the wording. Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  15:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Is an example schedule needed?
 * I believe it is notable to have it, yes, because it's a modified version of a scheduling system which has had a lot of backlash academically. It also happens to be quite complex and would be very, very hard to explain it in prose for ease of understanding (though if there would be an alternative to the tables, it would be appreciated). I could probably remove the "Second semester" example, however, since it seems a little redundant. Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  15:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Athletics
 * I'm curious about all the specific details for "Track and field", but none for the other sports.
 * I understand where you're coming from, but I was thinking this is where the school exceeds in athletics, and was worthy of a bit more attention. Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  15:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Notable alumni
 * No offense, but I question their notability.
 * ✅ None taken. However, I'm leaving Genevieve Lalonde and the section title as comments, because she happens to have qualified for the 2010 World Junior Championships in Athletics just yesterday, and depending on her finish, might turn notable ;) That and she's apparently aiming for the 2012 Olympics, so if she makes it, I can just remove the comments. Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  15:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

A GA looks doable, try looking through Category:GA-Class school articles for a good model to follow. If these comments are useful, consider reviewing an article in the backlog, which is how I found yours. ​​​​​​ ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 00:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the review. I'm still stumped with italicizing foreign words (Should I italicize proper nouns, even if it's the article title? Should I repeatedly italicize specific nouns?), and would like insight on that, as well as info on whether or not I should center tables. If you or anyone else can help with that or suggest anything else, feel free. Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  16:37, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't italicize proper nouns, just the foreign words that a reader might know and are defined in the article (like "Preoccupation de l'Affectif et de l'Apprentissage de Qualité"). The tables that are almost the width of the article should be centered; I floated one of the smaller tables to remove the white space around it (is that alright?). ​​​​​​ ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 16:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, and to be consistent I italicized the French term first, followed by the English term in parentheses. And yes, that looks quite fine to me. There are just a few more issues related to centering (has to do with what screen resolution you have, but I don't think that's something Wikipedia can solve, really) Centering is fixed, and I'll probably request a copy-edit before nominating it for GA; unless there's something else you want to add, of course. Eric Leb 01 (Page &#124; Talk)  18:54, 4 July 2010 (UTC)