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2011–12 Manchester United F.C. season
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I've listed this article for peer review because looking to get it t a featured article. It would also be good for future season articles to have an example to follow.


 * 1) It is rated as a start-class article. Is this an appropriate rating of the article?
 * 2) How well-written (grammer, punctuation etc) is the article?
 * 3) How comprehensive is the article and is there anything missing?
 * 4) Is it well-researched, have reliable sources and consistent citations?
 * 5) Is the lead section good?
 * 6) Is there an appropriate structure to the article?
 * 7) Is there a general critique that you would like to add to the peer review?

Thanks, Kingjeff (talk) 00:13, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Will take the review and get to it this week itself. Of the top the article is a little long per WP:Article length AS ITS approached 100k. Some split off sections needed.
 * Its at lesat c-class, but needs much more sources (as indicated by the tags)Lihaas (talk) 13:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Since I'm not an editor of the article, I'm going to add a bit. The appropriate structure isn't there. However, it can be easy to restructutre. The writing portion for each of the competition sections should go into a "Review and events" section. You have a section for each competition. Each one of those sections should be a subsection of "Match results". The statistics table for appearances and goals looks good. Transfers section looks good. It would be good to see a section called the "Starting 11". 2011–12 FC Bayern Munich season has a good example. Could also add a "Minutes played" section. Sources is another issue. 56 sources to-date. When sourcing is complete. This will put the article in a very good position. Kingjeff (talk) 04:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Also the lead has a mish-mash of 1 sentence paragraphs. They could be merged with the update for each competition into 1 para.
 * Also need consistent usage of Manchester United/United (this is not a fan weblog).
 * Cant think of content thats been missing. Perhaps staff changes, etc. As Kingjeff states a squad info/lineup section would do good.
 * Big issue is that there is the tag and there are no sources from premier league to the transfrs section (including the stats).
 * A general cleanup to remove OR and answer the tag should put it in good stead.Lihaas (talk) 06:31, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Per WP:MOSLEAD Lead should be no more than 4 paras. Definitely too much prose for each competition. Using the community shield as an example. It is currently; As Premier League champions, United began the season against the holders of the FA Cup, local rivals Manchester City in the 2011 FA Community Shield. The match was played at Wembley on 7 August.[7] This was the first time the Shield had been contested by the two clubs in 55 years. United had most of the possession and more shots on goal in the first half, but it was City who took the lead in the 38th minute when Joleon Lescott nodded in a David Silva free-kick. Edin Džeko then doubled City's lead on the stroke of half-time with a low strike from long-distance. However, seven minutes into the second half, Chris Smalling volleyed home an Ashley Young free-kick to reduce the deficit, and then Nani finished off an intricate passing move involving Wayne Rooney and Tom Cleverley in the 58th minute to bring the score back to 2–2. With a penalty shoot-out looming as the game moved into injury time, Nani forced a mistake from City captain Vincent Kompany, outpaced the defence and rounded goalkeeper Joe Hart before sliding the ball into the empty net to seal United's comeback and their 19th FA Community Shield.[8] But should be more along the lines of As Premier League champions, United began the season against the holders of the FA Cup, local rivals Manchester City in the 2011 FA Community Shield. The match was played at Wembley on 7 August.[7] This was the first time the Shield had been contested by the two clubs in 55 years. City took the lead in the 38th minute through Joleon Lescott. Edin Dzeko then doubled that before half-time. After 52 minutes Chris Smalling scored for United, Nani then equallised six minutes later and scored the winner towards the end of the match. (You could add some of what is already there to 2011 FA Community Shield). But as you can see it is roughly half. Overall the prose is way too detailed and there are lots of tabloid phrases used (looming, seal united's comeback, nodded in, stroke of half-time). The Premier League section - there are 33 paragraphs - 33! That's ridiculous, it should be about 5, MAX. I'm assuming its written in largely the same manner as the Community Shield paragraph and every match is covered. So there should be lots of infotmation you can remove. The two sections on Europe also look to be suffering from the same thing. At the moment I can't see much point saying anything else as, IMO, the article needs a complete re-write if it is your intention to get it to GA. Adam4267 (talk) 18:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)