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Antoni Gaudí
This peer review discussion has been closed. Antoni Gaudí is a Spanish Catalan architect and one of the most famous contributors to the Art Nouveau and Modernisme arts and architectural movements of the late 19th and early 20th century. A number of his architectural works, including his magnum opus, the Sagrada Família cathedral in Barcelona, have been identified as World Heritage Sites by UNESCO. This article is currently being considered for GA and I am the reviewer. I want to help it pass. Much of the content was translated from the Featured Articles in Spanish, Catalan etc. and the entire piece could use a second pair of eyes to eliminate wordiness, redundancy, and excessive formality, and to strengthen word choice and flow.

Thank you for helping out with this very important architecture topic. - Lemurbaby (talk) 06:02, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure that I will be able to deliver a full review of this very long (14,000+ words) article, but I hope to post some useful general comments within the next day or so. Brianboulton (talk) 17:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Brianboulton comments: This looks to be an extremely comprehensive account of Gaudi's life and works. With 14,392 words it is one of Wikipedia's longest articles; my personal view is that there are very few subjects that justify an article of this length. In this case there does seem to be a natural subdivision between "life" and "works". I am not suggesting a simple crude split, rather that it might be a good idea to study Summary style for ways in which this might be done. Some imaginative reorganisation editing and summarising could result in two articles, each of no more than 7,000 words.

For the moment I have been looking mainly at the images. If I have counted correctly there are 48 of them. That is an awful lot, and even in an article of this length there is image overload in numerous places. There are over 30 in the "Works" section alone, leading to frequent squeezing of text between left and right-aligned images, contrary to MOS. As there is a link to an illustrated list of Gaudi's buildings, I am sure that not all of these images are necessary.

Also, there are licencing issues, particularly with the older images. For example, in a number of instances where the author is unknown yet freedom from copyright is claimed on the basis of author's life + 70 years. We cannot assume that these photographers were not alive in 1941 - unless the photographs date from earlier than around 1880, which is not he case for many of these. We cannot claim publication before 1923 unless we provide details of such publication. Even the photograph of Gaudi's 1926 funeral has a licence claiming publication before 1923 - prescience indeed. I am not an images licence expert, but I think you need to talk to one if you propose to keep of the following images:-


 * File:Gaudí en Montserrat (1904).jpg
 * File:Gaudí i Güell a la Colònia Güell (1910).jpg
 * File:Carnet Gaudí (1888).jpg
 * File:Joan Llimona - San Felipe Neri en la consagración de la Santa Misa.jpg
 * File:Gaudí-Ragonesi (1915).jpg
 * File:Funeral Gaudí.jpg.
 * File:Gaudí-Orfeó (1922).jpg
 * File:Interior Casa Vicens.jpg
 * File:Puerta cementerio (1875).jpg
 * File:Vitrina Comella.jpg
 * File:Farmacia Gibert.jpg
 * File:Gaudí- Martorell- Catedral BCN (1887).jpg
 * File:Palau Güell - Forjats entrada.JPG
 * File:Trasatlántica (1888).jpg
 * File:Misiones Franciscanas (Tánger).jpg
 * File:Chalet Catllaràs (1905)B2.jpg

I am not saying that these images are still under copyright, but their current licencing is not in accordance with the informaion provided in the file descriptions.

The work that has gone into the article is impressive. I don't have further time at the moment to spend with it, but I believe I have raised issues that require attention and I hope my comments are helpful. Brianboulton (talk) 21:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)