Wikipedia:Peer review/Apple Macintosh/archive2

Apple Macintosh
This article has been summited for peer review multiple times.
 * First Submission
 * This article is a FAC; see nomination here

After all of that, and a failed FA nomination (view page), and with WikiProject Macintosh now on the case, we still cannot get this to FA! Please, help! --HereToHelp (talk) 23:47, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
 * We still need to get the article under 40k in size, otherwise this will be highlighted and used as an objection on FAC again. I also think the hardware section is too technical, and may not be understood by someone who is not familiar with computers and the Macintosh. It is very close, it just needs a bit of work in the Hardware section, I think, and chopping down some information to get it under 40k. — Wackymacs 09:30, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * As for trimming, it's the history section that needs it, it's way too long. That detail should be moved to a new subarticle on the history of the mac if needed, or to apple's history page. Half that section's current length would be about right. 2) The last paragraph of the history section is problematic from a POV standpoint. The halo effect is disputed and there are other effects anyway. The Big Mac (System X) at VTU probably had an effect, among others. So find some sources to cite and say, X says Y instead of having Wikipedia make the claim, and note common dissent. The last sentence in the paragraph is poorly worded too. There are some other POV statements sprinkled throughout that could benefit from citing a source or just being written more neutrally in some cases. - Taxman Talk 16:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)