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Australian handball

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This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review to expose the article to closer scrutiny from a broader group of editors. The page is being repeatedly being reverted to a previous unreferenced version, and so I ask all reviewers to review this version only. Thanks a bunch, Hpfan9374 (talk) 09:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: This is a very short article, and frankly I am not sure it meets the notability criteria. I will not WP:PROD it, but would not be surprised if someone does.
 * I looked at most of the refs and they are mostly very sketchy - just a mention or two of the word "handball" - this needs much better refs. The Diabetes ref seems most detailed, but still does not give the detail present in the "Description of the rules" section.
 * Yes, many of the references simply state handball as an example of a schoolyard craze, a ball game or a banned game.


 * Many of the refs that are used do not seem to be reliable sources - what makes Excitement Machine magazine a RS?
 * Excitement Machine is not a reliable source, I have removed all reference to it, as per your request.


 * Per WP:MOS, images should be set to thumb width to allow reader preferences to take over. For portrait format images, "upright" can be used to make the image narrower. Why not get a camera and get a picture or two of someone playing this?
 * Thanks for information about image formatting within articles, I'll keep that in mind in future. I have removed the image, as it was irrelevant and was not properly sourced. I will get a camera and get a picture or two of someone playing Australian handball, when it is convenient for me.


 * Article contradicts itself - first is the "Description of the rules" section (which could just be "Rules"), then the section opens with The game has no governing and no definite set of rules.[2] This is incomplete / ungrammatical - governing what? body? This is then followed by the rules.
 * I understand your concern, I have removed the entire section, I might try rewriting it at a later date, but only if I can find some reliable sources.


 * Is the title correct - the refs almost all just call it "handball"? The website "Varieties of Australian Handball" is an East Timor based domain - why is it reliable?
 * The title is correct as per discussion on the talk page, through a move request, as well as an article for deletion review. The website "Varieties of Australian Handball" is not a reliable source and thus I have removed all reference to it, as per your request.

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for reviewing this small article, Ruhrfisch. I greatly appreciate it and will definitely consider reviewing an article, most probably a discography list or two, in a couple of weeks time over Easter. Thanks again! Alex Douglas (talk) 12:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)