Wikipedia:Peer review/Bids for Olympic Games/archive1

Bids for Olympic Games
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I want to nominate it for Featured list.

Thanks, Felipe Menegaz 18:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Drive by comment This really needs some images, somwehere, before going to FLC. Stadiums, skylines, something to give the page some spice. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 08:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments

Lead could easily be expanded: information on most selected city, country and so fourth. Table: explain bold type. Notes need references. It is unclear what is references where: what's the ref for candidate city / host city / year / IOC session? Pictures wd be nice, yes. Sandman888 (talk) 15:42, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Comments by H1nkles

Thank you for your efforts to create a list of all the bids for all the Olympics Games. This is a commendable effort to be sure. I'll leave my comments below.

Lead
 * I agree with Sandman888 that the lead could be expanded. It would be good to include the bid process.  This can be found at the Olympic Games article.
 * The statement that the IOC revived the Ancient Olympics is a very controversial comment. I have been addressing this issue on the Olympic Games article off and on for two years now.  I would recommend a source for the statement (yes even in the Lead), better yet I would reword to indicate that it was one of the contributors to the revival of the Games.  There is a small but vocal faction who believe Evangelis Zappas was the actual founder of the modern Olympics and that the IOC and specifically Coubertin usurped the credit.  I don't necessary hold to this line of thinking but the comment is nonetheless a bone of contention that is best avoided if possible.

IOC-IPC cooperation
 * Watch using abbreviations before you spell them out. I see you spell out the IOC in the Lead but I don't see mention of the IPC.  Perhaps reword the title as "Cooperation with the Paralympic Games"  Or "Cooperation with the International Paralymic Committee".
 * In my research I think the agreement goes through 2012, you may want to check on this and add it if you can verify.
 * The second para discussing "one bid one city" is a bit confusing to me. What exactly are you trying to get at?  How were these bids different from 2008 and 2010?
 * Consider combining the paragraphs into one, several short one or two sentence paragraphs isn't good prose.

Lists
 * Why the parentheses around St. Louis in 1904? The note doesn't really clarify that enough for me.
 * Good use of color, well laid out.
 * Forgive me for my ignorance, I'm not as versed in the Featured List protocols but I thought that the lists had to be referenced. Is that right?  If so it seems to me that they are not adequately referenced.  I do see the use of notes but those are sporadic.
 * In the All-Time bids list I would clarify what the Bold year means. It may be self-explanatory but I think it would help the readers if it was spelled out.
 * This is a little nit picky but have you considered using the flag that the country used at the time of the bid in the all-time bids lists? That can be tricky when there are bids that span several decades (probably can't do it in those cases) but I do see the Canadian Montreal bids are all before 1960 and I think that Canada had a different flag back then.  Just looking for things that might come up at FLC.

Overall
 * I'd say you're on your way. The biggest problem may be the referencing of the lists.  I don't feel the notes in the article sifficiently reference all the lists.  That may be the biggest challenge (if lists have to be referenced).
 * The text of the article could be improved and I would recommend adding a section on the bid process. I think people will find that very interesting.
 * You could also add something about bid scandals like the 2002 Salt Lake City bid scandal. Not sure if that falls within the scope of this article though.  Just a suggestion.  H1nkles (talk) citius altius fortius 21:13, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reviews, they are very helpful! However, I am somewhat busy with Featured article candidates/Rio de Janeiro bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics/archive1. After promoting it to FA, I will restart the work on this list. Best regards; Felipe Menegaz 23:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)