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Censorship of student media in the United States


I've listed this article for peer review because… it has recently undergone an overhaul and I would like feedback on how to improve it further.

Thanks! –– FormalDude  (talk)  20:01, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Some initial thoughts from Jengod

 * Unlink United States in article name and also because that’s overlinking, which we have a policy about somewhere around here
 * Unbold “the” in article title in the lead
 * Break lead into at least two grafs
 * "Current legal precedent implies that pupils are not responsible enough to be trusted with constitutional rights and the government is allowed to suppress student speech that is deemed to provoke controversy or disrupt learning."
 * unsupported POV.
 * What is not supported in this sentence specifically? –– FormalDude  (talk)  02:08, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I think the laws don’t imply it, they assert it. And it doesn’t seem like a question of trust so much as minors have both limited rights and limited liabilities. I just think that there’s probably some interesting thinking as to **why** minors (contra "students") are not given full constitutional protections and/or suffer additional limitations to their entitled liberties. What is the good- faith interpretation of the motivations for this case law?
 * needs citations on rights of minors generally, especially in re speech, then drill down into school control issues and legal liability to “in loco parentis” entities like schools and universities
 * I'm not sure what you mean by this. Are you suggesting I add content, or just sources? –– FormalDude  (talk)  02:08, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * content, if you have any personal interest in researching the larger contexts!
 * What do media studies professors and 1st amendment scholars says is the intent and result of these decisions, like, collectively?
 * The result is a violation of the constitutional right of free speech that young people are afforded under the First Amendment, and the result of that is a lack of the civic and educational value that comes with free student expression. The intent is something I'd have to look into more. –– FormalDude  (talk)  02:08, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I think the “History” section is better described as “Case law and statutes”; I’d like to see more examples of student journalism censorship that didn’t necessarily go to court; most of this is school newspapers but in latter-days perhaps more online, student TV or radio; have there been any circumstances where investigative journalism was suppressed by the school administration bc it was unflattering or exposed criminal wrongdoing? What methods of suppression are most commonly used? (Retaliation? Expulsion? Legal action?) What if any is the legal jeopardy for individuals administrators in re student pubs? Is there any relationship between this topic and technology restrictions on student computers: Are content blocks a civil rights violation? (I’m kind of kidding and kind of serious.)
 * There have indeed been dozens of circumstances where investigative journalism was suppressed by the school administration because it was unflattering. What do you think would be the best way to incorporate them? A bulleted list? –– FormalDude  (talk)  02:08, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes! I’d say that reporting about administrative violence or corruption would be the most compelling, IMHO.
 * I would like to know what organizations like the Journalism Education Association or the Student Press Law Center teach student journalists about their legal responsibilities and restrictions on expression based on tradition, experience and the case law.
 * Not a bad idea. Where and how would you want this included? –– FormalDude  (talk)  02:08, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * like maybe a separate heading of "Context" or "Background" or even just "Journalism education" ?
 * Are there any state-by-state variations in the protected student-speech laws? Have any of these laws been invoked in cases or legal wrangling?
 * Yes, I should expand this to clarify the difference between the federal law and the state laws that have been enacted. It's covered partially in the article right now. –– FormalDude  (talk)  02:08, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds great. 👍
 * Is Student Press Freedom Day an annual event or was it just in 2020? If it was just in 2020 I might fold it into the History section.
 * Annual. –– FormalDude  (talk)  02:08, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It just caught my eye as weird bc what happened to 2021 or 2022?
 * As mentioned above, very interested in what the advocacy organizations teach and would like to see changed.
 * Maybe for some context, background info on the state of student journalism in the United States today. How many estimated pubs? Distribution platforms and circulation numbers?

Love this topic. Student speech is a civil liberties vanguard. Looking forward to what you dig up. (Maybe see if there are any relevant Ted Boutrous defenses?)

jengod (talk) 01:11, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Wow, thank you very much for the detailed feedback ! I've replied to some of your comments and implemented the quick stuff. –– FormalDude  (talk)  02:08, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Very glad I could be a minor pain in your ass. Hopefully others will weigh in as well. jengod (talk) 05:41, 7 December 2022 (UTC)