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Chuck Versus the Cliffhanger
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I am trying to get it to featured article status. It has all ready been reviewed by Ruby2010 (twice), but the opposers of the first nomination (,, , and ultimately ) still think the article is incomprehensible (see here, here, and regrettably here). I want to make sure the article, specifically its plot section, is comprehensible by the general (i.e. non-Chuck-viewing) reader, and if not, how specifically to get it there. I also want to make sure there are no remaining errors such as grammar issues or MOS violations in references.

Thanks, Boycool (talk) 23:20, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Comments by David Fuchs
 * doing Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 20:12, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Some initial comments:
 * It seems odd to pack so much info into the lead about the background, especially since most of it's not actually in the article body. I understand the issues of trying to make plot sections for involved episodes seem clear, but the solution is usually less details, not more.
 * What details would you suggest removing? --Boycool (talk) 21:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Along those lines, the plot can be trimmed a bit more, but I'll try my hand at it first to try and spare you more grief.
 * The reception section suffers a bit because its grouped by critic opinions, rather than reaction to specific aspects of the episode. I'm not sure if this is a better way of doing it based on the reviews but it comes off awkwardly like a laundry list.
 * I'll prolly have more to say after I go through for a full edit, and I'll take a better look at the previous FAC. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 16:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC)