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Clemuel Ricketts Mansion
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I think it is at least up to GA standards and perhaps up to FA criteria, but I would appreciate input from other editors before taking it to GAN or FAC. Thanks in advance for any feedback, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:13, 22 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments by Dincher (talk) 22:15, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Lead
 * drop the 'in' between Colley Township and Sullivan County.
 * Dropped, thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * it was home to ? generations, how many generations?
 * Well at least three and probably four generations - 1) brothers Clemuel and Elijah, 2) Elijah's son Robert Bruce (no idea if Clemuel had kids), and 3) RB's son William Reynolds. William had a son Robert Bruce Ricketts II who died young and is buried at Ganoga Lake in the family cemetery - I assume he lived in the house at some point too, but have no reliable source that explicitly says that, so I left it vague. I will probably expand the articles on RB and WR at some point and would RB II to those, not sure he belongs in this article. What do you think? Thanks, Ruhrfisch  &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * several generations ought to do the trick. --Dincher (talk) 19:12, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It was included.... second sentence beginning with 'it' suggest changing to 'the mansion' or some other noun
 * Good catch, used "The house". Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Is club house a compound word? clubhouse or club house. A dictionary will answer this question
 * Thanks for another good catch - clubhouse it is. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Location
 * The first sentence has 6 prepositional phrases. This could be shortened by dropping, in north central Pennsylvania
 * Dropped it, thanks Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * History
 * Elijah G. RIcketts should be Ricketts
 * Yes it should and now it is, thanks Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * In 1851 they started ..... which they completed in 1852. Long sentence suggest rewording to: Construction began in 1851 and was completed the following year. or something similar
 * Changed to They started building a stone house on the lake shore in 1851 and finished it the next year. Thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The hotel was run by, suggest changing to operated or managed.
 * Changed to managed, thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The house and its hotel, suggest dropping the its
 * Dropped, thanks Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The hotel closed in 1903, and passenger train service ended then. suggest dropping the then or chaning from then to at that time.
 * Used "at that time" thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The stone house... home and was renovated and a new wing was .... Two ands in one sentence. suggest making two sentences from this information.
 * Split it for now, could also use a semicolon here. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * A source in the main park article places the end of tha Nat. Park project prior to WWII due to funding problems. Perhaps change it to budget problems and the war.
 * Thanks very much - added the ref and budget problems, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thus, private development of houses on the lake only began.... drop the only.
 * I did and the whole sentence was a bit odd, so I dropped it - more about the lake and its development than the mansion. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Architecture
 * This section looks pretty good, but I don't know much about architecture. Might want to get more feedback from another user on this section.
 * Thanks, I will see if I can get someone else to look at it. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Overall the article is pretty good. Many of the sentences begin with prepositions. These could be easily changed by re-ordering the sentence, or not. Not a big deal either way. Dincher (talk) 22:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Link check for redirects and wrong links
 * Lead
 * Georgian style is a redirect to Georgian architecture
 * Location
 * No problems
 * History
 * Repeated link to Towanda already linked in Location section
 * New York Times should be The New York Times
 * Architecture
 * gable roof is a redirect to gable
 * All of these have been fixed now, thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Link check is complete. Dincher (talk) 22:55, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Are the grounds open to the public so that more color photographs of the mansion can be taken? This would be nice. Dincher (talk) 22:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately there is a gate with a security camera so I do not want to trespass, even for a good cause. There are a few more photos of the house on Flickr, but not under a free license and not as good (IMO) for showing the fronnt or door as the black and white HABS photos. Thanks for your helpful and thorough review, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 18:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Comments from Niagara

I am not seeing many problems with the Architecture section; it is very detailed and comprehensive.


 * It's "L-shaped", not "ell-shaped". Ell is an ancient unit of measure.
 * Thanks - I changed it to L-shaped. There is an article on Ell (architecture), but that is not really relavant here either. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The CRGIS link for the nom form is here, if you wish to update it.
 * I have updated it - thanks. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * In the infobox: How can Colley Township be the "nearest city" (apart from the obvious fact that is not a city) if the mansion is in Colley Township. Not necessary, but I'd also break up that link such that "Colley Township, Sullivan County, Pennsylvania" links to the relevant township, county, and state article.
 * I used Elkman's NRHP infobox generator for the infobox. Have changed the "nearest city" field (which would probably be Wilkes-Barre if true cities are meant) to the "location" field and split it up so there are individual links for the township, county, and state. Thanks, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I, too, agree that some recent photos would be nice. I wonder if there is a way to contact the owners? Maybe they've heard of Wikipedia and would willing to let you photograph the mansion (I mean, how often does one hear that your house has its own article). ​​​​​​ ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 17:04, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have been in Flickr and email contact with someone who has a house there (for photo permissions) - will ask if it is OK if I go there and get some pictures. Looking at forecasts the weather there is supposed to be nice by the weekend. Thanks very much for your helpful comments. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:51, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have an appointment to tour the house in a few weeks. Hopefully the weather will be good. Until then I am closing this PR and nominating at GAN. Thanks very much for the review comments, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 21:10, 28 April 2010 (UTC)