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Eduard Streltsov
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because I've just started working on it again after a few months of letting it be, and am looking for thoughts to help me take it to FAC. I'd appreciate comments on the prose, especially, as I understand that this is a weakness of mine.

Thanks, – Cliftonian the orangey bit 20:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Finetooth comments: This is nicely done. The interesting personal story makes the article much more compelling than it would be if it only recounted his playing career. I have several suggestions about prose here and there and a couple of comments or questions about image licenses and other issues.

Lead
 * "promising career was interrupted at the age of 20 by a conviction of rape that saw him imprisoned for five years." - Since a rape can't literally see, perhaps "promising career was interrupted at the age of 20 by a conviction of rape that led to five years in prison."
 * "After a statue of Streltsov was erected at the Luzhniki Olympic Complex in 1998, 1999 saw Torpedo build a monument to the former player outside the stadium bearing his name." - Since a year can't literally see, a slight re-write might be better. Suggestion: "A statue of Streltsov was erected at the Luzhniki Olympic Complex in 1998, and in 1999 Torpedo built a monument to him outside the stadium bearing his name."

Images
 * Some countries such as the U.S. do not have what is called freedom of panorama; that is, freedom to take photographs of statues displayed in public and to publish the photos without violating copyright. If Russian law does not allow freedom of panorama, the statue photos won't survive close scrutiny. I don't know what the Russian laws say about this, but you might find the answer via Commons:Freedom of panorama.

Conviction of rape
 * "As a key player for both his club team and for the Soviet national side, these traits combined to create the impression in the government psyche that "Streltsov was becoming rather too much of a celebrity". - Maybe "Because he was a key player... "?

Release and return to football
 * "Despite having lost some of his strength and agility,[13] his footballing intelligence was still intact;" - Since his intelligence didn't lose strength and agility, perhaps this would be better: "Although he had lost some of his strength and agility, his footballing... ".
 * Caption: "Streltsov featured in May 1967 as the USSR defeated... ". - Maybe "excelled" rather than "featured"?
 * "After losing his place for the 1968 European Championship qualifying match against Finland on 30 August 1967, Streltsov missed three Soviet Union matches before reclaiming his place for an away friendly match against Bulgaria on 8 October, marking his return with a goal as the Soviets fought back from 1–0 down with 20 minutes left to win 2–1." - A few too many clauses? Suggestion: "After losing his place for the 1968 European Championship qualifying match against Finland on 30 August 1967, Streltsov missed three Soviet Union matches before reclaiming his place for an away friendly match against Bulgaria on 8 October. He marked his return with a goal as the Soviets fought back from 1–0 down with 20 minutes left to win 2–1.
 * "although he scored a relatively low six league goals during 1967, his lowest from a full season since his début year of 1954... ". - "for a full season" rather than "from a full season"?
 * "European Championship quarter-final first leg defeat to Hungary on 4 May 1968" - Either "defeat by" or "loss to" would be better than "defeat to".

Post-retirement
 * "Due to Olympic policy of the time, the only members of the winning squad who received gold medals were the players who had won the final match; Streltsov did not play in the final, and so was not awarded a medal." - Maybe "Olympic policy in 1956 was to award gold medals only to members of the winning football squad who had played in the final match. Since Streltsov did not play in the final, he did not receive a medal."

Playing style and legacy
 * "the club subsequently erected a statue of him outside three years later." - Maybe "the club erected an outdoor statue of him three years later"?

Other
 * Valentin Ivanov links to a disambiguation page rather than the intended target.
 * Biographies often include metadata that is invisible to most readers but helpful to researchers. I used a script to add "Persondata" via Template:Persondata to the bottom of the article. You can review this in edit mode to make sure it's correct and to add a short description, maybe "Association football player".
 * I wondered if Streltsov ever re-married or if he had any children. I also wondered if he continued his high living and womanizing after his release from prison. Related to the thought of high living, I wondered, because of the throat cancer, if he was a heavy smoker. It's not necessary to answer these questions or to add this data, if available, to the article. On the other hand, it might add even more interest.

I hope these suggestions prove helpful. If so, please consider reviewing another article, especially one from the PR backlog at WP:PR. That is where I found this one. Finetooth (talk) 05:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your comments; they are much appreciated and I have implemented them all. The last point is one which I will investigate over the next week or so! Cheers! :) – Cliftonian the orangey bit 17:04, 22 March 2010 (UTC)