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Edward II of England infobox
I have created a template for infoboxes on monarchs, because I think there’s a need for these, like the ones we already have on presidents or popes. So far it seems Sweden is the only country where they exists (and here there is no template in use).

The problem is that English monarchs (and those of many other countries) already have infoboxes on the royal families (example). With another infobox, the right margin of the article would be way too cluttered, and in many cases far outrun the length of the article text. This is why I created this infobox as a seperate namespace, and the plan was to include a prominent link to the infobox at the top of the article.

This, of course, is not quite in accordance with Wikipedia standards, so the article now risks being deleted. This is fine with me, but I still believe the infobox should be implemented. I would suggest instead that the royal family infobox be relegated to its corresponding namespace; I believe this information is of secondary importance to that regarding the monarch him/herself.

So, I would like your oppinion on this. Should we include the monarch infobox, the one on the royal family, or both? My vote would have to be:


 * Monarch, simply because the article is on the monarch, not the royal family. Eixo 13:38, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, they do kind of serve the same function, except that several kingdoms don't follow family lines. England is an obvious choice with Lancaster/York/Stuart/Orange/Hanover.  Thus, if you had a royal family box and were looking at James II, the family wouldn't really tell you much.  At the same time, there is a need for family overviews.  My suggestion would be Monarch if the monarch box linked internally to a royal family article.  Then, no information is lost.  (Arguably, the family box could be linking to Kings of England or something like that, too, but I think that monarch is the fundamental call for the look-up.)  Geogre 11:23, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

A better idea would be a separate article such as Edward II of England (relatives) or Edward II of England (facts and figures). If it's in the main article space then you should treat it as an article. Your infobox could even usefully be added into such an article. Have a look at Warsaw uprising for some ways of splitting up articles. Mozzerati 18:28, 2005 May 9 (UTC)


 * Monarch. The "royal family" infoboxes are too cumbersome and clutter up the article.  They should be moved to the specific articles on the various royal houses (e.g. House of Tudor.) --JW1805 20:18, 6 November 2005 (UTC)