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Frederic M. Richards
This peer review discussion has been closed. I've listed this article for peer review because it is my first attempt to create an excellent biographical article (it was very minimal when I started). There was quite a lot of good material available - but I'd very much appreciate advice on any ways in which I could make it even better. It is part of developing the new WikiProject Biophysics, but none of us have experience yet in how to formally assess and grade the articles in our own domain by wikipedia-appropriate criteria.

Thanks, Dcrjsr (talk) 15:58, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Comments
 * Thank you so very much for the useful comments and advising on more wiki-standard ways of formatting and organizing! After I've made these changes, what quality level do you judge it to be?- Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * "Frederic Middlebrook Richards (August 19, 1925 – January 11, 2009),[1][2][3][4][5][6]" just wonder why we need six refs for this statement?
 * Moved to end of first sentence, as one of the recommended ways of citing refs general to the entire paragraph & header; hope that helps. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * No need for "(see ribbon drawing below)".
 * Fixed. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * No link for "ribonuclease S"?
 * Ah, there is a link for ribonuclease S, but do it first time.
 * Done. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Say it like this -> "... nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) ..."
 * Done. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Is (Pfizer) actually Pfizer?
 * Yes, name of the company that sponsored the award. I've now cross-linked the Pfizer page. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * " (paper #7 below)." avoid use of hash for number, and avoid self-reference in the article, just link it to the section or just find a more elegant way of writing it.
 * Have removed the #s. This type of harvnb ref was recommended by another earlier reviewer; I'm keeping it for now pending any further discussion, since I think the citation should indeed link to the specific paper.


 * "separately, RNase A[16]) " put ref outside parenthesis.
 * Done. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Link angstrom.
 * Done. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * "1RNS in 1973 (PDB 1RNS), " avoid this kind of link, make it a proper ref.
 * In structural biology, the primary ref is indeed to the database not the journal paper (altho that's cited just previously), so I'm keeping those links here and in the section on his deposited structures. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Second para of "Ribonuclease crystal structure" is unreferenced.
 * Added 2 refs. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * "The "Richards' box"" -> ""Richards' box"" per WP:HEAD.
 * Done. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * And more refs needed in the tail-end of this section.
 * Those last 2 sentences all refer to or quote from the ref given in the first. I've changed the wording a bit to make that clearer, but would rather not re-ref. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Not sure why you switch to bullet points when prose in good paragraphs would work fine in "Other research areas" section.
 * Have fixed that. Then needed to add further details, both to avoid criticism for many short paragraphs, and for appearance. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Don't relink and re-abbreviate things like NMR half-way through the article.
 * Fixed the NMR one and some others. Seems to me that cross-links are needed in a separate section like the one on career events & awards.  Is it OK to do them twice?  Or if only once, should that be in the header section or the award section? Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * "Personal Biography" -> "Personal biography".
 * Done. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I would expect this to be first actually, since this is about him, not his work. Reorganise so we learn about him, then his work.
 * I've done this switch, and will see what I think and consult others, since of course what he's notable for is the science. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * "100 top places to live in the US.[3] It is a coastal " make [3] a proper citation.
 * Done. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * " and had three children - Sarah, Ruth, and George - and four " en-dash (per WP:DASH) not spaced hyphens.
 * Done. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * "Summary of career events" be consistent with year formats.
 * Done. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Check refs for compliance with WP:DASH, eg. ref 6.
 * Done. Hope I didn't miss any. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Check all refs have as many fields as possible, including publisher, access date etc, see refs 42 and 43 for instance.
 * Done. Dcrjsr (talk) 20:23, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

For what it's worth (and I'm no expert), it may stand a chance as a good article nomination, and if it didn't pass then it probably wouldn't take too much work to fix it up. Good luck! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:28, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

To Ruhrfisch - Thanks for keeping the peer review open. I've now done a GA nomination, after fixing Rambling Man's suggestions. Since you have reasonably related expertise, as well as vast wiki experience, I'd be truly appreciative if you'd consider reviewing the GAN. Dcrjsr (talk) 06:11, 3 July 2012 (UTC)